1stGenAmerican:


They obtained a false passport for the boy to use listing his age as 41. Here is an update with statements directly from UK police, not paid Nigerian bloggers:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10950461/Lincoln-Uni-BANS-organ-harvesting-Nigerian-professor-trafficked-teen-fake-passport.html

Interesting

May the truth of the matter be reveal and may God save the innocent one among them

obailala:
The burden of proof will be on the prosecution. Besides, Nigeria doesnt have any law against payment for organ donation. So it would be interesting to see how a Nigerian living in Nigeria would be charged under UK law for an act which was done in Nigerian and which is not illegal in Nigeria.

The ALLEGED enterprise was not a discrete event or "act" but a series of continuous actions. A film not a photo
The argument that it was DONE in Nigeria is weak and watery.
1. If I pay people in Nigeria to ship drugs to New York I can still be tried for that in New York ask the dozens of people extradited from Colombia. Mexico now in US prisons
2. The alleged offence did not end with payment but follow through or CONSUMATION activities that brought them to the UK

So I paid a man in Nigeria to come to the UK to kill my enemy and then I get him a passport visa and accompany him to the UK to show him the house of the victim. Would we argue that I can be charged for showing him the house but not paying him for the killing?

What we are talking about here is an ALLEGED conspiracy not a single act

ERockson:
Alright! But let's see whether Ekweremadu will receive handshake from the UK government even after confirming the boy is 22yo. How could a lawMaker negotiated such a deal with young boy without carrying his family along. Whether the boy is 15 or 22 he will be protection by the UK government after this issue

Na shady deal naa, dem do am coded just the way dem do Osondu contract for football

dochenaj:
Do you think that the Ekweremadu's don't know that organ donation should be altruistic? They will argue that the boy agreed to donate his kidney without any material compensation from them. And for the boy to argue otherwise he will only end up creating holes in his story.

Why do you think the boy was taken into protective custody?

Neddstark:


All he was trying to do is save his daughter's life.

You know how poor our journalists are in reporting news. Any thing that involves Ekweremadu they will remember this story.

Abemy:
Is is legal to publish ones BVN & NIN without his consent?

By publishing Ukpo's BVN and NIN, the Ekweremadus has further exposed him to fraudsters, and privacy abuse.

Lawyers and Doctors on the Forum, when one is to go under the knife, does he/she require a parent/guardian or even a relative's endorsement, or only the person's signature is required? I want to understand something.

Mean while, I wish the Ekweremadus best of luck in this trying time.

For minors, the parents or guardian must give consent. For adults he can give consent but it must be proven that he has mental capacity, well informed about the procedure ,risk and consequences .

I'm very sure the Senator never gotten a written consent from the boy. If he didn't he is gone cos that document can prove the boy was actually aware of the kidney donation.

Vadese1:
Go back and read what you type . I believe you even know more the lawyer. One of our very best in Nigeria ..maybe you have not heard of him so the Senator should seat down and relax till when things go south without preparing his evidence. You really comment well. Thank you

If that is one of your very best in Nigeria, that shows your country is finished.

Can you tell me why he is suing organization that could have come as a witness? Can you point out the fault of the bank? Try to think twice before quoting. Thank you

Cajal:
Another version

Compatibility tests could easily be done in Nigeria now
Ekeremadu committed blunder
Anyway he would be discharged acquainted

I agree with the bolded

The issue here shouldn't be about his age,rather the deed that would have been done without his consent.
If there was an agreement to donate anything,there would be a signed paper authenticating the claim of consent.would the guy just agree to donate his kidney for free? What was promised? Would ekweremadu just send him to uk just to get tested and returned if his kidney isn't a match?
Whatever happens,i don't think they are telling the truth.

luminouz:


I wonder what exactly is your problem.

Always screaming, screeching and wailing everywhere, mostly without any rational,logical direction.

You need to get laid. Which one do you like, slim or thick? Lemme de-stress your existence small.

Rubbish.

Freelance363:
The issue here shouldn't be about his age,rather the deed that would have been done without his consent.
If there was an agreement to donate anything,there would be a signed paper authenticating the claim of consent.would the guy just agree to donate his kidney for free? What was promised? Would ekweremadu just send him to uk just to get tested and returned if his kidney isn't a match?
Whatever happens,i don't think they are telling the truth.

They obtained a falsified passport for him and used it to apply for a visa.

[quote author=Idiotseverywher post=114214736]. But the guy agreed to donate his own, was he forced to. I'd he tgr first person to ever agreed to do do? Why atr you people being so sentiment, pray that God never punish human beings because of our behavior and wickedness[/quoteI] if her siblings had agreed to donate to her, ukpo wouldn't have come into the picture. But non of them want to loose any organ, rather they prefer another person doing it for her. Ekweremmadu should have gone to India, and buy it, all this wouldn't be happening.

drsibz66:



For minors, the parents or guardian must give consent. For adults he can give consent but it must be proven that he has mental capacity, well informed about the procedure ,risk and consequences .

I'm very sure the Senator never gotten a written consent from the boy. If he didn't he is gone cos that document can prove the boy was actually aware of the kidney donation.

You got it right. Showing proof of consent alongside the passport is enough but funny enough, his loyalist and his big trouser lawyer are finding who to push their blame on. It is funny. They are even suing banks and other agencies for their folly.

Till then, we are watching

Idiotseverywher:
. But the guy agreed to donate his own, was he forced to. I'd he tgr first person to ever agreed to do do? Why atr you people being so sentiment, pray that God never punish human beings because of our behavior and wickedness

At the bolded, how do you know this?

The innocent teenager was lured to donate his kidneys. Only God saved him through doctor Harry. Go and read the boy's account of the story.

If this the same boy would have come out either in church or any other place to volunteer his kidney to save a life, by now everyone will be praising him. But because it happen to a politician and a rich one, we are all quick to condemn the action. Tell me what the Senator did wrong. He should fold his and hand watch her daughter die. Until many of us do away with our poor mindset , we will not see anything good in rich people

kingsways:


Shut up there!!

How did he ruin his reputation


He should not try to save his sick daughter

He should but not at all cost.

zedegit:


You didn't answer the question. Is there no hospital to confirm if he's a suitable match in Nigeria?

If you read my response, you'd see your answer there, especially the first line. Go back and see things yourself.

tinsel:

Tell me what he did wrong? [b]A 21 years old boy wants to donate his kidney and the Ekweremadu wants to pay for it. [/b]What is the problem? Where I will lay blame on Ekweremadu is if the boy is actually 15 years and Ekweremadu is part of the conspiracy to inflate his age to 21.
People have been selling their kidney in Nigeria. This is not the first and not going to be the last so far the seller is an adult.

At the bolded, how did you know this? Or you enjoy deceiving yourself?

1stGenAmerican:


The point you made is golden. In order for them to be arrested and denied bail, there was sufficient evidence with a good possibility of a conviction. They were also arrested at the airport, trying to catch a flight to Turkey which was probably for ill intent. Why wouldn’t they escort the boy back to Nigeria? Because they’re evil, thought they were above the law, and had ill intent to begin with.
These Nigerians really think that this boy actually obtained his passport and submitted his visa paperwork on his own when those of us with sense know that he probably was incapable, financially and otherwise, of doing so. The onus will be on the person who wrote the high commission and applied for the visa and we already know who that is. I wouldn’t be surprised if the person that Ike paid to falsify documents has already thrown him under the bus.
About a point you made earlier, I’m a lawyer and I wouldn’t waste time or money applying for a visa until I had tangible evidence (a signed and videotaped statement) from the person I intended on taking overseas. They both knew better they just thought that professionals in the UK were stupid. The doctor contacted the police and I am sure he had cause (beyond the boy’s statement) to do so.

These are some of the same people that claimed Hushpuppi would outsmart the justice system and walk out of prison here in the US with all of his stolen money. When he pled guilty, the armchair attorneys were silent. This is the same shit, different case.

They were denied bail because they were charged to a Magistrate court which does not have the authority to grant bail for this level of offence and nothing to do with the chances of conviction.That could not have been determined by a Magistrate.You claim to be a lawyer and do not know this? Most magistrates are not even qualified lawyers
The case was adjourned for two weeks to be heard at the Crown Court which is where bail arguments can be heard. Two weeks is not exceptional delay.
Right now in the UK there is a backlog of cases and not enough lawyers to prosecute them so bad that barristers were threatening strike yesterday

dochenaj:
Do you think that the Ekweremadu's don't know that organ donation should be altruistic? They will argue that the boy agreed to donate his kidney without any material compensation from them. And for the boy to argue otherwise he will only end up creating holes in his story.

Story!
If it is in the western world, Ekweremadu would have resigned from the Senate by now.
Do you know how they profile Africans in the Europe?
They already know and strongly believe that there was promise of money and better life in UK.

Fahdiga:
It is like you don't know Nigerian journalists? Any small matter involving Ekweremadu they will remember this story.

The press in Nigeria is not as voracious as the one in the UK, in fact, it is one of the weakest around the world. It has never lived up to the expectation of being the instrument for check and balance in the country, reason it is constantly flung by those with the power to do so, else a lot of ills that have gone and is going wrong in the country would have been adequately thrashed with the press being the front runner. But guess what? Ours isn't effective. They only feast on the week and gullible, little wonder a former president during his tenure once described them as Brown envelope journalists.
If you ask me to give you examples I will. Right now banditry, kidnapping and all sorts of killings are ongoing, has the press applied enough pressure that cost anyone's job for failing?
ASUU has been on strike for how long? No sufficient press pressure on both the government and ASUU
Worse is the longest fuel scarcity since 1999 despite high pump price, what has the press done about it?
Ours is a seasonal press.

Comrade I don't think I will agree with you we naija people can be so desperate when we cross the bridge not to come home. Son of man can say or do anything to stay there. I remember this UK border video challenges I use to see you can join the group and see a lot. The group is REAL RESPONDER.

ERockson:
But why the too much noise about the boy age. The alleged offence is very bad regardless of the boy's age. The boy claimed he was promised a job not knowing he was about to be harvested

Idiotseverywher:
. But the guy agreed to donate his own, was he forced to. I'd he tgr first person to ever agreed to do do? Why atr you people being so sentiment, pray that God never punish human beings because of our behavior and wickedness

how do you know the guy was not forced or deceived to donate? Where is the agreement signed by the boy to show that he agreed to do it without being forced?

Na lie. If this is the accurate information. He ruined nothing. If one needs a donor, you have to follow this exact process. I knew the whole brouhaha is suspect because organ harvesting in UK is one of the dumbest thing Ekweremadu would gave done. If he needs to harvest organ, he would have patronised Dubai or India.

Fahdiga:
Whatever that is the outcome of this case, Ike Ekweremadu has ruined his reputation.

aribisala0:

They were denied bail because they were charged to a Magistrate court which does not have the authority to grant bail for this level of offence and nothing to do with the chances of conviction.That could not have been determined by a Magistrate. Most magistrates are not even qualified lawyers
The case was adjourned for two weeks to be heard at the Crown Court which is where bail arguments can be heard. Two weeks is not exceptional delay.
Right now in the UK there is a backlog of cases in the UK and not enough lawyers to prosecute them so bad that barristers were threatening strike yesterday

I’ve moved on to question why the couple chose to file suit against Nigerian agencies instead of the British authorities and police for saying that the couple obtained a fake passport and gave it to the boy to use. Is it because the British authorities are stating facts?

PS712:

The press in Nigeria is not as voracious as the one in the UK, in fact, it is one of the weakest around the world. It has never lived up to the expectation of being the instrument for check and balance in the country, reason it is constantly flung by those with the power to do so, else a lot of ills that have gone and is going wrong in the country would have been adequately thrashed with the press being the front runner. But guess what? Ours isn't effective. They only feast on the week and gullible, little wonder a former president during his tenure once described them as Brown envelope journalists.
If you ask me to give you examples I will. Right now banditry, kidnapping and all sorts of killings are ongoing, has the press applied enough pressure that cost anyone's job for failing?
ASUU has been on strike for how long? No sufficient press pressure on both the government and ASUU
Worse is the longest fuel scarcity since 1999 despite high pump price, what has the press done about it?
Ours is a seasonal press.

Yeah

Which boy? He is an adult. A fully functional adult in the eyes of the law, if he is 21. He is not a boy?

Miracle2020:
how do you know the guy was not forced or deceived to donate? Where is the agreement signed by the boy to show that he agreed to do it without being forced?

BigIyanga:

Typical Naija oppressor mentality. The issue is not about age.
Per 1989 UK Law-HOTA, Live organ donor and recipient must be genetically related. Is the boy related to the Ekweremadus?
It’s also illegal to induce, coerce, manipulate or offer monetary compensation to donors.
Ignorant and arrogant leaders worshiped by ignorant followers like you.

Not for kidney

You are fast to believe the boy part of his story to be true , but quick to condemn the senator. Even when you know the boy is a criminal by lying against his age. As African and a Nigeria for that matter, do you really believe this boy is 15 old.

Newton2024:
At the bolded, how do you know this?

The innocent teenager was lured to donate his kidneys. Only God saved him through doctor Harry. Go and read the boy's account of the story.

thatigboman1:
Sir, the whole noise about the boy's age is because that is the issue in contention. Minor. In UK, minor is 15 years and below. UK doesn't deport minors. If the boy had claimed to be 16, he would have been put in the next plane back to Nigeria. But as a minor, a vulnerable child in UK seeking asylum, they will protect him and provide for him and he can stay in UK till he dies. That's why the age is so contestous.

Under 18 is a minor, not 16.

Not against per se but to extract information.

1stGenAmerican:



I’ve moved on to question why the couple chose to file suit against Nigerian agencies instead of the British authorities and police for saying that the couple obtained a fake passport and gave it to the boy to use. Is it because the British authorities are stating facts?