1stGenAmerican:


Who says the passport wasn’t altered after they passed customs and before they began to visit the hospital for testing?

How? Impossible!

Make it make sense
You have been here since morning,I guess you might be the undercover FBI running the case

Pinklygul:


How? Impossible!

Make it make sense
You have been here since morning,I guess you might be the undercover FBI running the case

It’s far from impossible. It’s common.

1stGenAmerican:


I believe your words because you appear to have a strong medical background.
If they would’ve gone to a hospital in Nigeria, the staff might have explained the kidney donation process to the boy and told him about all the risks and medical care he’d need in the future. If that would’ve happened, he wouldn’t have boarded a plane bound for the UK to donate a kidney. They went to London for all the testing so it would be harder for him to change his mind and the costs would be picked up by the NHS.
I suspect the modern-day slavery aspect came into play when they boy appeared reluctant after the procedure was explained and he was still forced to continue testing.

Keep running around in circles with your ignorant self

There are well over millions of Nigerian youths that will jump at the offer for juicy pay
Try harder

1stGenAmerican:


It’s far from impossible. It’s common.

So how will they alter it and for what reasons being that they already sent a letter of purpose to the embassy before even Visa issual?

Timmi:


Yes you are correct, they - the Ekweremadu wrote to the embassy that the man/boy is a donor. The question that you should ask is the man/boy aware of this plan? Obviously NO

u are funny.

they just took him there to slaughter like a goat and remove his kidney

1stGenAmerican:


That’s my point. Only Nigerian sources have this information. Nigerian sources have no bearing since they will be tried in a UK court.
The passport he traveled with is in the possession of the UK courts. This looks like a new passport that was cooked up for damage control. I don’t believe anything coming from Nigerian agencies, especially since I deal with altered Nigerian passports and fraudulent documents on a regular basis.

Let me repeat myself again: the crimes that they’re charged with are not age specific. Even if his true age is discovered to be 21, 31, 41, or 51 it won’t matter because their criminal charges aren’t due to age.

Nobody is arguing with you what the main charge is. The simple point is that dailymail is a tabloid which made a mistake in their '41' figure. but you're too fixated on the fact that it's a UK site to get that point. You believe they cant be wrong because they are a UK site.

Without being told, how do you think it's even sensible for anyone with a brain to want to falsify that boy's passport, and of all the ages they could think of, it's 41 years old for that little boy? This is a common sense issue so I'll speak no more about it. Feel free to believe whatever you want to believe!

FERNANDEZISBACK:
The whole thing is contradictory.. different story flying around...

You are dealing with Nigerian Politicians

1stGenAmerican:


That’s my point. Only Nigerian sources have this information. Nigerian sources have no bearing since they will be tried in a UK court.
The passport he traveled with is in the possession of the UK courts. This looks like a new passport that was cooked up for damage control. I don’t believe anything coming from Nigerian agencies, especially since I deal with altered Nigerian passports and fraudulent documents on a regular basis.

Let me repeat myself again: the crimes that they’re charged with are not age specific. Even if his true age is discovered to be 21, 31, 41, or 51 it won’t matter because their criminal charges aren’t due to age.

I must say you do have a valid point and I'm not in support of ekweremadus actions in anyway but let me ask though,

Let's say the boy was able to escape Nigerian immigration, carrying a passport that claims he's 45. Did he not get checked on arrival to UK?

Are the UK immigration officers so dumb to know even without any investigation but mere looking at the boy and comparing him to the age on his passport, that he's in no way near 45?

obailala:
Nobody is arguing with you what the main charge is. The simple point is that dailymail is a tabloid which made a mistake in their '41' figure. but you're too fixated on the fact that it's a UK site to get that point. You believe they cant be wrong because they are a UK site.

Without being told, how do you think it's even sensible for anyone with a brain to want to falsify that boy's passport, and of all the ages they could think of, it's 41 years old for that little boy? This is a common sense issue so I'll speak no more about it. Feel free to believe whatever you want to believe!

As in, it doesn't make any sense at all. I know most Nigeria politicians are very dumb and lack ideas but to this extent?

1stGenAmerican:
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Nigerians are saying that the boy is 21 and here you’re saying that his younger brother is 22 . How can the younger brother of an alleged 21 year old be 22? Does this paradox help you understand why Nigerian sources aren’t believable?

His identity hasn’t been released or confirmed by the UK officials and his passport has been confiscated and is in the possession of the UK courts so how did anyone get access to view it? The UK didn’t violate his privacy by sharing a picture of his passport or his identity so where did Nigerians get verification that anything is real?

....

Was it UK that issued the passport to him ?

Was it UK that did his BVN in 2019


Abi Nigerian immigration service Don relocate to UK...?

Did you know that the Nigerian immigration service has reacted to this issue ? If no, kindly visit their news site...thank you


https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/ceq85wqgdq0o

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2022/06/27/alleged-organ-harvesting-immigration-confirms-age-of-victim-in-ekweremadus-case/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/ekweremadu-alleged-organ-donor-22yrs-not-15yrs-immigration/amp/

https://www.nairaland.com/7198022/nigerian-immigration-service-investigations-show

obailala:
Nobody is arguing with you what the main charge is. The simple point is that dailymail is a tabloid which made a mistake in their '41' figure. but you're too fixated on the fact that it's a UK site to get that point. You believe they cant be wrong because they are a UK site.

Without being told, how do you think it's even sensible for anyone with a brain to want to falsify that boy's passport, and of all the ages they could think of, it's 41 years old for that little boy? This is a common sense issue so I'll speak no more about it. Feel free to believe whatever you want to believe!

How do you know they made a mistake? It is possible but you are just guessing aren't you? You do not know that do you?

1stGenAmerican:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10950461/Lincoln-Uni-BANS-organ-harvesting-Nigerian-professor-trafficked-teen-fake-passport.html

Ndibunna I hope you're seen this. Shame on you for been an agent of division

Felixamos:


I must say you do have a valid point and I'm not in support of ekweremadus actions in anyway but let me ask though,

Let's say the boy was able to escape Nigerian immigration, carrying a passport that claims he's 45. Did he not get checked on arrival to UK?

Are the UK immigration officers so dumb to know even without any investigation but mere looking at the boy and comparing him to the age on his passport, that he's in no way near 45?

My guess is that the passport was altered after he cleared customs and before he visited the hospital.

1stGenAmerican:


If more people in Nigeria possessed your great critical thinking skills, the country would be on its way to the top.
I agree with you, it’s going to be a long bumpy ride. Hopefully, you already know that Western countries only reveal a fraction of the evidence they have against defendants leaving what’s produced in court to be a shocker.

Again what kind of a lawyer types this rubbish? Have you ever heard of something called Disclosure?!

In 'western countries', the prosecution dont spring surprises (what you call a shocker) on defendants in court. That goes against everything the justice system stands for.

You are a fantasist!

pappilo:


Again what kind of a lawyer types this rubbish? Have you ever heard of something called Disclosure?!

In 'western countries', the prosecution dint spring surprises (what you call a shocker) on defendants in court. That goes against everything the justice system stands for.

You are a fantasist!

You’re extremely delusional if you think the British prosecutors will tell the world about all the evidence and witnesses they have before the trial commences. Our discourse stops here. Goodbye

Ndibuna:

Ndibunna I hope you're seen this. Shame on you for been an agent of division

are u talking to urself?

1stGenAmerican:


You’re extremely delusional if you think the British prosecutors will tell the world about all the evidence and witnesses they have before the trial commences. Our discourse stops here. Goodbye

You are a grade A f00l!

You said the western countries only reveal a fraction of their evidence to the defendant but then drop a shocker in court. Thats absolute rubbish.

1stGenAmerican:


You’ve resorted to insults and name calling. Typical negative Nigerian mentality. I’m not an immigrant but I have the power to make you look even more stupid than you are. You have convicted felons running for President but you’re making fun of other countries?
Your belly will rumble before my belly does. My country is the 4th largest producer of wheat, yours comes mostly from Ukraine. You’re suffering from petrol shortages, I’m not. This charging station has more reliable power that your whole state and there’s no ridiculously long queue.
Cheers!

More noise from a typical immigrant.

Indeed one man's treasure is another man's trash.
While ignorant immigrants are running down there for an imaginary "better life," the citizens there are fleeing & renouncing their citizenship in record numbers.

What an irony

The REAL citizens know better than these ignorant immigrants (wannabe americans)

1stGenAmerican:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10950461/Lincoln-Uni-BANS-organ-harvesting-Nigerian-professor-trafficked-teen-fake-passport.html

The Head of Nig Immigration Service has just confirmed that the would be organ donor was issued passport as a 22 year old while the Brits in this story are claiming he arrived with the passport of a 41 year old.
Who is framing who in this case?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/ekweremadu-alleged-organ-donor-22yrs-not-15yrs-immigration/&ved=2ahUKEwj8z8bL9ND4AhWZX_EDHVZlBmcQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1_ckWCvMqaW5J-Z07OqCAw

1stGenAmerican:


My guess is that the passport was altered after he cleared customs and before he visited the hospital.

Okay, let's say it was altered after he cleared customs but before visiting the hospital? Is that how foolish the person who must have altered it is?
Even if it was in Nigeria, people would still raise eyebrows talk more the Uk. I know politicians can do incredible foolish things but to that extent of not thinking that a boy looking roughly 19-22, would hold a passport showing he's 41 and people would swallow it hook line and sinker(in the UK oh)? It's just so hard to believe mehn! The story is too dicey what do you think?

pappilo:


You are a grade A f00l!

You said the western countries only reveal a fraction of their evidence to the defendant but then drop a shocker in court. Thats absolute rubbish.

Can't some of you guys just make your point without being insultive? You insulted her first which she reciprocated and instead of you to stop, you're still carrying on with the insults. Typical attitude of an oversabi person wey no really know anything. And Na una type(people who are quick to insult) plenty for nairaland pass

aribisala0:
How do you know they made a mistake? It is possible but you are just guessing aren't you? You do not know that do you?

How do I know if it's a mistake?.. Common sense and documentary evidence!

You've seen the picture of the boy's passport all over the internet showing his date of birth as Oct 2000 yet you still wonder if 41 is an error just because it was written by a UK tabloid? Several websites state his acclaimed age as 21 years old, but a UK tabloid writes 41 years as his age. With the info freely available, you're still contemplating if 41 is the right figure?

Let's even assume the boy or the senator are dumb; they want to make a fake passport for the boy to prove he's an adult; do you genuinely think 41 years old is the sort of figure they would concoct for such a young boy? Is it anything you people just see online that you swallow hook line and sinker?

1stGenAmerican:


Sure, I saw the letter that further incriminates him. He filed for the visa. He produced all the needed documents which were deemed fraudulent.

Why do some reason through their nose
How did the letter Ekweremadu wrote to embassy in support of the boy purpose of travel became fraudulent
How did the boy passport, NIN and BVN become fraudulent
For people who believe this boy story of 41 years where did they see it because his passport amd the bisa flying on the internet clearly shown 21 years . Did ekweremadu give him another passport after he arrived UK to show to doctor at the hospital

HRprof:

Why do some reason through their nose
How did the letter Ekweremadu wrote to embassy in support of the boy purpose of travel became fraudulent
How did the boy passport, NIN and BVN become fraudulent
For people who believe this boy story of 41 years where did they see it because his passport amd the bisa flying on the internet clearly shown 21 years . Did ekweremadu give him another passport after he arrived UK to show to doctor at the hospital

A UK tabloid stated 41 years old for a boy whose passport mentions October 2000 as his DoB. Because a UK tabloid wrote it, it cannot be an error; it must be the correct figure and every other site which quoted 21 years old must be inferior to the UK website.

The above is the exact mindset driving this thread!

1stGenAmerican:


But they weren’t going back to Nigeria. They were arrested trying to board a flight to Turkey to have the procedure done.

This came directly from the UK police. They gave these statements to the media. If it’s a lie then their lawyers should be suing the UK police and the news outlet rather than agencies in Nigeria, right? Why haven’t their lawyers released a statement denying these claims?

Thank you for this. I was just about to respond to that particular post. The age debacle is a smoke screen.

Either paid posts or they don't actually think much.

obailala:
A UK tabloid stated 41 years old for a boy whose passport mentions October 2000 as his DoB. Because a UK tabloid wrote it, it cannot be an error; it must be the correct figure and every other site which quoted 21 years old must be inferior to the UK website.

The above is the exact mindset driving this thread!

So why can't UK tabloid show us evidence or prove of the stated 41 years like other inferior website with clear evidence I'm beginning to smell racist on the UK part I now believe what FFK wrote on this matter. We will see the end , i hope this boy will not come out to apologise with confession if his plan failed.

HRprof:

So why can't UK tabloid show us evidence or prove of the stated 41 years like other inferior website with clear evidence I'm beginning to smell racist on the UK part I now believe what FFK wrote on this matter. We will see the end , i hope this boy will not come out to apologise with confession if his plan failed.

41 written by the uk tabloid is an error; it should be 21.

obailala:
41 written by the uk tabloid is an error; it should be 21.

Have they come out to say it was written in error ? if not then there is more to this

HRprof:

Have they come out to say it was written in error ? if not then there is more to this

Okay sorry it's 41, since we no longer use our common sense again in Nigeria.

AkaraAndBread:


My dear, I am a doctor. Donating an organ to someone does not necessarily mean your life is ruined.

You typed too much bullshiit! Who doesn't know that already?
But in this case, they were going to ruin his life in the sense that he's not of age to make such a critical and life changing decision. Mr Doctor, you should have known better than the crap you're posting but of course, you could have been a quack.
The major cry about this case is not the actual donation of the kidney but the exploitation of the homeless kid involved.
Why didn't Ekweremadus present one their kids as organ donor?
This is not organ donation but organ harvest, and I just hope that you know the difference

The same way people just believe the British tabloid without thinking, is a same way people vote in funny characters for a second time in elections. If there was a third term, these set of individuals will still vote in those funny characters and they expect the country to move forward? Hatred and religious fanatism both have a way of messing up sane human being brain to act funny.

iamL:



I told them that unless the uk released the documents of the boy I won't believe all the stories from Nigeria news outlet.

If the country can admit that snake swallowed money there Is nothing Nigerians not only the politicians can't do.

We'll be alive to see the end of this story..