porka:


Tithing is controversial, so to say, because it has not been comprehensively presented by many churches. They seem to be hiding the truth on tithes and offering because they fear that there won't be funds to run the church, at best.

But it should not be that controversial. Giving is expressly explained in the Bible in simple and easy to understand language.

Luke 11:42
Woe to you Pharisees! You pay tithes of mint, rue, and every herb, but you disregard justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without neglecting the former.

Jesus encouraged the payment of tithes. However, He didn't think that it is more important than Justice and Love of God. In other words, it should not be in isolation. It should not be seen as a bribe to get God's blessing. In this passage, one can actually be under a curse if tithing is not given in conjuction with Justice and Love of God.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

In this passage, Christians are encouraged to give according to what they purpose in their minds. This is the key. Some times, what a person settles in his or her mind is more important than any percentage.

Pegging giving at 10% already erodes the notion of free will, it indicates compulsion. However, one can actually purpose in his or her heart to give 100% or 1% or any percentage for that matter.

Mark 12:41 - 44
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts.
But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others.
They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on

As noted by Jesus in the above passage, this woman's giving to the temple treasury was not based on tithe. She made sure she gave all she had as determined in her heart. Not by compulsion, no one rained any curses on her. She did it from her own free will.

Luke 6:38
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

Giving is also rewarding. It is not in vain. Therefore, Christians are encouraged to give as much as they can, having at the back of their minds that they shall be compensated for their sacrifice.

2 Corinthians 9:5-6
So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.

These are some of the guides on giving in Christianity.

Jesus encouraged the payment of Tithes u say? Was he referring to Christians? Which people pay tithes under the law..? Are they Christians? Black people have a problem with comprehension

'Religion is sustained by two factors: Fear and Guilt..and if there is one subject the church has used for a long time to keep people in fear and guilt,it is in that subject of tithing and it has to be corrected'

- Pastor Creflo Dollar


Nothing more to add!

Kinzo0917:
. This man is anti- Christ. Tithing is scriptural and it is back up in the Bible. I will always pay my tithe and I feel happy , joyful and blessed doing it. Just only 10% for God o… Is that too much?

Scriptural for Christians or jews? Use ur head

Realhommie:
It's in the Bible, the question is if it's a Christian practice??. From Jesus to the least of the apostles, please mention which of them paid tithe as recorded in scripture..

My brother, I don't argue the scriptures I practice what is in the scriptures that can help me hmm. Thank you and God bless you

ChuksHills:
My brother, I don't argue the scriptures I practice what is in the scriptures that can help me hmm. Thank you and God bless you

You sure you practice what is in scripture or instead the twisted version that has been fed you from the mouths of your pastors and mogs??

JW till i die we know this and know peace

tunjidachosen:
Olodo listen well before you post, he never said tithing is wrong neither did he say it is not biblical. He simply said there are things about tithing he has said in the past that were wrong and he wanted to correct them. To be specific he was addressing the fact that some preachers instill ungodly fear in the heart of the church by emphasizing on the consequences of not paying tithe and attributing people's negative experiences to not tithing. He is trying to now emphasize that tithing is an act of worship to God and not something of a compulsory levy. Tithing is a choice

Sorry sir, Tithing is not a choice. Tithe is a LAW made for the isrealites. It is a MOSAiC law. And we are not under the law. Don't anyone decieve you. Open your bible and read of all the acts of the apostles and all the letters to all the early churches, if u will see anywhere tithe paying was mentioned.

Was Paul foolish for him to have forgotten to enforce tithe giving? Or you think the early churches didn't need money?

The standard of raising funds in the body of Christ is FREE GIVING.

Stop following talks of GOD of men who know the truth but preach heresies to fatten their pockets.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Kobojunkie:
You sure you practice what is in scripture or instead the twisted version that has been fed you from the mouths of your pastors and mogs??

Do your own make I do my own haba. This is how we cause problem for ourselves.

Ken4Christ:
Nothing wrong about the doctrine of Tithing. It's just the presentation. You can Tithe in love and not in fear.

Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory was asked by our Lord Jesus to go back to a church he had pastored years back and teach them how to give their tithes. If there is one minister you can hardly fault his teaching, he is Kenneth Hagin. A man who Jesus had appeared to eight times in the course of his ministry and taught him face to face.

I will come up with a book on the subject soon and open the eyes of Christians to even know that Tithing is the least financial commitment we ought to be involved with.

We should give far more than our tithes.

Tithing is just 10% but our Lord Jesus even wants us to give 100% and depend solely on God to meet our needs.

So, as a New Testament saints, you can commit 20%, 30%....90% and even 100% of your income to the advancement of God's kingdom and help the poor.

If there is nothing wrong with the dortrine of TITHINF, we should be able to say there is NOTHING wrong with all other MOSAIC dortrines such as PASSOVER FEAST, MAKING BURNT OFFERINGS, SPRINKLING OF BLOOD OF SHEEP AND GOATS ON DOORS. etc.

You can't pick one and abhore the rest.

Payment of tithe is biblical which is found in Malicah, we are in the end times

dogmart:


If there is nothing wrong with the dortrine of TITHINF, we should be able to say there is NOTHING wrong with all other MOSAIC dortrines such as PASSOVER FEAST, MAKING BURNT OFFERINGS, SPRINKLING OF BLOOD OF SHEEP AND GOATS ON DOORS. etc.

You can't pick one and abhore the rest.

Thank you. Some minds are so closed and they simply can't deal with the fact that they have been fed lies.

ukpongokon33:
Payment of tithe is biblical which is found in Malicah, we are in the end times

Book of Malicah?

Amalekki:

Thank you. Some minds are so closed and they simply can't deal with the fact that they have been fed lies.

That is the problem. To accept that have been wrong for so long is a big problem them.

A friend of mine and I had this very argument months back. He was trying to tell me that the reason he got a very good paying Job and promotion was because he was a tithe payer. And I told him he was wrong.
I told him some christians who have never paid tithe have been blessed even more that he is testifying , yet he was adamant. Telling me his faith is Working for him. That when he doesn't pay he will see setbacks.
I only smiled and left him Alone.

God set u free, u decide to put yourself under man made bondage.

The unfortunate truth is you are only feeding a man made greed. And not helping the body of christ.

For anything that comes with the LAW, CURSE AND FEAR doesn't belong to body of Christ.

We have been given the liberty through Christ Jesus.

ChuksHills:


My brother, I don't argue the scriptures I practice what is in the scriptures that can help me hmm. Thank you and God bless you

Lol... Enjoy

ChuksHills:
Do your own make I do my own haba. This is how we cause problem for ourselves.

God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, is the same Law that was given to every single individual who accepts Jesus Christ. So, if you are making up your own laws, or attending to the doctrines and traditions of men(and thei churches) , you are definitely not living according to God's Law.

ukpongokon33:
Payment of tithe is biblical which is found in Malicah, we are in the end times

Tithing and offering, for those who believe in Jesus Christ are sins against God. Has been that way since more than 2000 years ago when Jesus Christ came and made this clear.

Hotfreezer:
It takes a lot of balls for a beneficiary of tithing to do this.

Exactly!
Surprisingly most pastors know but the urge to keep fleecing on the congregation is too much to halt!
I am very sure that this was a collective decision taken because someone would have reminded him about their monthly budgets!

Kobojunkie:
Imagine the number of souls these men sent to their graves with those lies in the name of God, souls that will never see the gates of Heaven at the end as a result.

Paying tithe does not send you to grave bro. .it is not a sin and it's biblical.

Kobojunkie:
You are insinuating God is the reason this man lied for many decades to so many souls who are now dead and gone and destined for Hell as a result of the lies this man fed them?

2. Ofcourse his lies have blessed your life tremendously. Do you know that even those men who worked with Hitler to carry out the atrocities that he did against millions of lies also believe they were blessed by Hitler in some ways?,

God is the supreme judge. I won’t question the grace at work in the life of another, just as I won’t question the grace at work in your life. Nobody is perfect. Even you, you are perfect neither am I.

I won’t reply your next quote.

Has any Pastor ever force you to Pay it? dont pay na its your business.


Tithe has nothing to do with the law for it came before the law

ChuksHills:


Do your own make I do my own haba. This is how we cause problem for ourselves.

Smiles. You can't claim to be a Christian and act UN-CHRISTLIKE.
Yet trapping many innocent souls with false dortrines and false testimonies and say you should be left alone to do as you please.

Go and read your bible well and you will know more and deliver yourself from lies of men.

It will shock many on the last day, when Matt 7:21-23 will happen.

True and False Disciples
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


Dont be decieved by WORKS or Testimonies, all testimonies are not God's doing.

lottomkyes200:
Has any Pastor ever force you to Pay it? dont pay na its your business.


Tithe has nothing to do with the law for it came before the law

Hmm.
One question please.

Why didn't the early church (who were evidently led by the holy spirit) practice TITHING. Remember they are the ones who clearly recieved the holy spirit without question. (it fell on them like tongues of fire)

Why was there no mention of tithing in the entire acts of the apostles and all the letters to the churches?

If you answer this satisfactorily, then we will know you know what you are saying.

Wisejohnson47:
Whatever you are doing that is working for you please keep pushing and doing it, nobody should confused you

This is the very saying that made many fall astray.

What works for you doesn't necessarily mean it is in accordance with God's will.

I guess those doing human sacrifices and occultism along side their Christianity should continue because IT IS WORKING FOR THEM?
Or Those going to churches where they offer sacrifices and pray with red candles should also continue since IT IS WORKING FOR THEM?

Or you think it doesn't work?
Sorry mister, IT WORKS. If it didn't they won't persist in the way.

Please know that, that is a very wrong statement as a True christian Be ye seeker of the truth.

dogmart:


Smiles. You can't claim to be a Christian and act UN-CHRISTLIKE.
Yet trapping many innocent souls with false dortrines and false testimonies and say you should be left alone to do as you please.

Go and read your bible well and you will know more and deliver yourself from lies of men.

It will shock many on the last day, when Matt 7:21-23 will happen.

True and False Disciples
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day,'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


Dont be decieved by WORKS or Testimonies, all testimonies are not God's doing.

Thank you and God bless you

ChuksHills:


Thank you and God bless you

God bless you too.

Basicend:
Paying tithe does not send you to grave bro. .it is not a sin and it's biblical.

Pay attention!

Tithing and offering, for those who believe in Jesus Christ are sins against God. Has been that way since more than 2000 years ago when Jesus Christ came and made this clear.

What grave are you talking of? Did Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant, tell you that when you sin against God, you are sent to the grave?.

litigator:
1. God is the supreme judge. I won’t question the grace at work in the life of another, just as I won’t question the grace at work in your life. Nobody is perfect. Even you, you are perfect neither am I.

I won’t reply your next quote.

God's judgement is made clear in His Law which Jesus Christ gave to men over 2000 years ago. But that is besides the point here. The questions I asked again are...

You are insinuating God is the reason this man lied for many decades to so many souls who are now dead and gone and destined for Hell as a result of the lies this man fed them?

2. Ofcourse his lies have blessed your life tremendously. Do you know that even those men who worked with Hitler to carry out the atrocities that he did against millions of lies also believe they were blessed by Hitler in some ways?,

dogmart:


If there is nothing wrong with the dortrine of TITHINF, we should be able to say there is NOTHING wrong with all other MOSAIC dortrines such as PASSOVER FEAST, MAKING BURNT OFFERINGS, SPRINKLING OF BLOOD OF SHEEP AND GOATS ON DOORS. etc.

You can't pick one and abhore the rest.

The doctrine of Tithing is not based on the Law of Moses. It started hundreds of years before the law was given.

Abraham gave all his tithes to Melchizedek who is a type of Christ. Genesis 14:18 - 20.

His grandson, Jacob also vowed to give all his tithe. Genesis 28:22

And we are told to walk in the footsteps of Abraham who is our father of faith - Romans 4:12.

Kobojunkie:
God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, is the same Law that was given to every single individual who accepts Jesus Christ. So, if you are making up your own laws, or attending to the doctrines and traditions of men(and thei churches) , you are definitely not living according to God's Law.

OK. Thank you and God bless you dear.

But remember your signature

"Aggressive Minority should not force their views on the majority" so don't force your view on people.

genkins:


Imagine what an adult can believe..the brainwashing is too much

I am as brainwashed as Jesus was. The system of the world has been washed off my brain. I live my life by faith in the teachings of my Lord Jesus and his Apostles.

bennybuhari:
Tithing is not by force

Tithing attracts a curse.



Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


* If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse. Tithing to fulfil what's written in the book of law attracts a curse.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.



Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Galatians 5:1,4
[1]So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.
[4]For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.

Hebrews 10:9-10
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all.

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He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament.

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2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
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* The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding.


The curses Malachi 3:8-12 was talking about are found in Nehemiah 10 :28-39.

It was a curse the Israelites laid on themselves if they disobey any of the laws.

Nehemiah 10:28-39
[28]Then the rest of the people—the priests, Levites, gatekeepers, singers, Temple servants, and all who had separated themselves from the pagan people of the land in order to obey the Law of God, together with their wives, sons, daughters, and all who were old enough to understand—
[29]joined their leaders and bound themselves with an oath. They swore a curse on themselves if they failed to obey the Law of God as issued by his servant Moses. They solemnly promised to carefully follow all the commands, regulations, and decrees of the lord our Lord:
[30]“We promise not to let our daughters marry the pagan people of the land, and not to let our sons marry their daughters.
[31]“We also promise that if the people of the land should bring any merchandise or grain to be sold on the Sabbath or on any other holy day, we will refuse to buy it. Every seventh year we will let our land rest, and we will cancel all debts owed to us.
[32]“In addition, we promise to obey the command to pay the annual Temple tax of one-eighth of an ounce of silver for the care of the Temple of our God.
[33]This will provide for the Bread of the Presence; for the regular grain offerings and burnt offerings; for the offerings on the Sabbaths, the new moon celebrations, and the annual festivals; for the holy offerings; and for the sin offerings to make atonement for Israel. It will provide for everything necessary for the work of the Temple of our God.
[34]“We have cast sacred lots to determine when—at regular times each year—the families of the priests, Levites, and the common people should bring wood to God’s Temple to be burned on the altar of the lord our God, as is written in the Law.
[35]“We promise to bring the first part of every harvest to the lord’s Temple year after year—whether it be a crop from the soil or from our fruit trees.
[36]We agree to give God our oldest sons and the firstborn of all our herds and flocks, as prescribed in the Law. We will present them to the priests who minister in the Temple of our God.
[37]We will store the produce in the storerooms of the Temple of our God. We will bring the best of our flour and other grain offerings, the best of our fruit, and the best of our new wine and olive oil. And we promise to bring to the Levites a tenth of everything our land produces, for it is the Levites who collect the tithes in all our rural towns.
[38]“A priest—a descendant of Aaron—will be with the Levites as they receive these tithes. And a tenth of all that is collected as tithes will be delivered by the Levites to the Temple of our God and placed in the storerooms.
[39]The people and the Levites must bring these offerings of grain, new wine, and olive oil to the storerooms and place them in the sacred containers near the ministering priests, the gatekeepers, and the singers.“We promise together not to neglect the Temple of our God.”

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The big question is, Africans getting scared because of Malachi 3:8-12, were their ancestors among those that made the vows?

i guess you are a member of The Churh of Christ

FreeStuffsNG:
Thank God! We do not practice tithing among the Saints and I have never paid tithe all my life in the church Christ paid for with His blood. I pray others come to this truth too very soon.

No new testament church should ever collect tithe.

Nice one by this influencial member of the clergy. I am particularly happy that he is black. He should write his own 99 thesis too like Martin Luther.

There are still other errors like the concept of denominationalism with one senior head and branches, use of musical instruments in worship, sprinkling of water for baptism instead of full immersion, creating titles like Reverend, General Overseer, Archbishop etc,
confusing the post of an evangelist with a Pastor, appointing those who have not met the qualities of an Elder/Pastor as a Pastor and having a single pastor leading a congregration instead of having 2 or more among many other errors still in place.

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