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| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Cmanforall: 2:27pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
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| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Idiotseverywher: 2:27pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Gemma11:. How old are you my man? You are just , reasoning to bigoted, there are kidney donors all over the world and it's legal once it is established, what they need to establish is if he is a willing donor which the documents he signed will establish , first the important thing has been proved he is not a minor. Then the next is was he a willing donor? That is what they will want to establish in the next hearing once they establish that, they will move the case to Nigeria because it's no more in their jurisdiction to try the matter |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by descarado: 2:28pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
ogbuefi677:Wanting Ekweremadu to suffer because he is a Nigerian politician. Had people like him done the needful, a hospital in Nigeria can do this transplant. That is why people are angry. Whenever they are sick, they will jet out but the poor are left to die in Nigeria cos they don't have money. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by etrange: 2:28pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Nozino:I'm not sure you know how the law works. If the court rules he's not a minor, he's legally not a minor regardless of anything he says afterwards. So all these things you're saying were only applicable before the court's ruling; except he intends to appeal the judgment. Just like a sentence, a ruling is also considered conclusive. Besides, you are wrong, it's not all about what he says, they're many biological ways to get an estimate of someone's age if it comes to that. The UK court does not depend on what he says alone. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by descarado: 2:29pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
drnoel:Obviously he knew. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Nozino: 2:31pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Gemma11:Thank you oo. You’ve asked the right question. The criminal organ thieving senator and his wife should also provide proof that the “consent “ wasn’t given under duress or after financial incentives were offered. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Gemma11: 2:33pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Lifestone:Human Trafficking charge still stands https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/modern-slavery-human-trafficking-and-smuggling [b]Human Trafficking - Section 2 Modern Slavery Act 2015 |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by LienwaltAbel(m): 2:34pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
descarado:Lie under which oath? Have you read the boys full questioning in the witness box anywhere? He mislead the investigators, he didn't lie under any oath |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:35pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Where’s a credible report of the alleged ruling stating that he isn’t a minor (which isn’t the issue at hand)? Why aren’t any credible UK sources reporting this supposed ruling? Fake news made up to distract Nigerians from the real crime committed again. For those saying the boy is in trouble and the case has fallen apart, why is he still free living in Care in the UK while the Senator and his wife are still in jail? Why aren’t the news reports saying what really happened in court that prompted the senator and his wife to remain in jail until August? |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by ogbuefi677(m): 2:35pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
descarado:Ekweremadu should suffer for the one he did,not the one he didn't do. He has been a legislator almost all his political life. It is the job of the executive like buhari and the governors to build hospitals. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by descarado: 2:35pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
obailala:Remaining if he was financially induced which has to be proven. The problem now is the guy is an established liar. How will they believe him again. Read it was medical visa. Evidence he gave consent and case is dismissed. Guy miscalculated |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by obailala(m): 2:36pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
lexy2014:The boy claiming to be a 15 year old minor was the first red flag which got the authorities interested in the case. With that 'minor' claim proven to be false, it's the first victory for the Ekweremadus. Let's watch and seee how the case goes; no need for long arguments. My bet is that the Ekweremadus will eventually be let off the hook. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by etrange: 2:36pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Gemma11:If he lied under oath, he'd face legal charges for sure cause that would be perjury. However, regardless of whether he lied under oath or not, if he lied at all, passing the refugee hearing would still be a tough call. How do you think Asylum works? You just beg them and they'll give you? Have you ever been to a refugee hearing or spoken to anyone who has? If it's on record that he lied about his age (in or out if court), he'll have a hard time navigating that during his hearing. Those guys will scrutinize his story like crazy. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by descarado: 2:37pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
1stGenAmerican:Status quo is maintained until the final hearing. It's an international crime. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by LienwaltAbel(m): 2:37pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Idiotseverywher: person no even fit understand this rubbish wey you type self. Mr Man, it is a crime in most first world countries to buy organs from people. Google it and stop arguing blindly for one of the people who have damaged your country. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by SLOVFO(m): 2:37pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
an0daGuy:But such can't happen in the UK na. UK is not a third world country. You just can't take an organ from someone without the person's express consent in a UK hospital. I don't believe that the Ekweremmadu's were that daft and reckless. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by HAYWHYBAM(m): 2:38pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Nice write up, lesson learnt. FreeStuffsNG: |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Nozino: 2:40pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
etrange:Sir you’ve answered the question. The ruling can be appeal easily when the fact that BVN information can be updated and changed! With someone as powerful as the criminal senator, how difficult would it be to have the guy’s BVN information updated to reflect whatever he wants? The judge will surely consider this. Besides, this is the least charge the senator has to face. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:40pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
obailala:The boy never claimed he was 15, the doctors who alerted the authorities did. His age, though not a driving factor, has yet to be disproven and no credible news coming out of the UK has reported that. If there was a victory in this case, the suspects wouldn’t be still rotting in jail. Whatever happened in court today was enough to keep them in custody. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by udumosam23(m): 2:41pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
DMerciful:He should just do everything possible to remain in UK if not, if he comes back he is finished. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by playpaz: 2:41pm On Jul 07, 2022*. Modified: 3:25pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Imagine that Nigeria is like UK , do you think he will ever sell his kedney? Ike Ekweremadu have been in the senate for years making sure that nothing works in Nigeria. He made sure that ppl like this boy is poor so as to easily use them anyhow he wants. Nbote: |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by DWJOBScom(m): 2:42pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
an0daGuy:This is a lie and you know it The dude lied about his age the moment he knew he was coming back to naija You just pitched with hate for man you don't even know |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by naija4life247: 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
muykem:They are already in jail. They can't escape it. But, if feel sorry for them. Any parent will do anything to save a child's life. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Henix(m): 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
wiseoneking:I should pray for a politician who has been among those looting our collective wealth for themselves and their generation unborn? U must be kidding. Meanwhile, he has not passed any hurdle. Financial inducement for organ donation is a crime in UK. He committed a crime and will definitely serve a jail term. His only saving grace will be if Nigeria government succeeded in using diplomatic measures to get him and the case transferred to Nigeria |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by SamOchuko: 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Parachoko:No sir, he’s not coming to Nigeria anytime soon so that political thugs can kill him, his not being a minor do not free Ekweremadu of organ harvesting charge. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by descarado: 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
LienwaltAbel:The govt get involved because he claimed he is a minor. When the news came out, we heard a 15 years old homeless Nigerian..... Before all other evidence started surfacing. He was quizzed of cause by the authority and he reaffirmed he is 15 yrs. That's lying under oath. You don't waste tax payers money chasing clout. This is not Nigeria. He has every opportunity retract his statement but he still maintained he is 15 yrs. That has been established he is mot a minor. Dear, you don't know what this means. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by nedekid: 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
beejay85:Asylum after lies? I doubt it as he has lost all credibility. He will be deported or at best giving asylum in the recent arrangement with Rywanda ![]() |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by DWJOBScom(m): 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
thunder74:So happy about it |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:44pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Nozino:You’re on the right track and so is the UK court. It’s doubtful that they even took a look at the fraudulent information presented because they’ve seen their share of forged documents originating in Nigeria. I’ve no doubt that genetic testing was performed which is more credible than things that can’t be authenticated due to corruption however these guys fail to understand the gist of the alleged crime and how age plays no factor in it. They’re being willfully obtuse. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by Nozino: 2:44pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Lifestone:Liar? How? Has he lied under oath ? Wasn’t he, a non relative and stranger to the sick lady, trafficked into the UK by the senator to either (1) donate his kidney after being offered monetary incentives (2) Harvest his kidney without his knowledge?? How do you people not understand that you can’t offer money to organ donors? It is a crime!! And according to UK laws, you have to be either be a relative or a close friend to the patient to enter the UK on a visa and donate organs? |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by BleedTears: 2:47pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
Beremx:She shouldn't suffer for her parents stupidity but she should enjoy her father's lot? Funny Did she ever asked the father to build hospital with the 200 million he receives yearly as Constituency Allowance? No she was busy using part of the money to fly around the world and live a very good live in a developed country, while the people who elected the father suffer in a Constituency with no basic amenities. She deserve worse than whatever she's passing through right now. Do you know how many poor people who might have died in the same sickness in her Constituency because they could not afford to travel to UK to get a better treatment and her father did not built Hospital with 200 million he receives yearly as a Constituency Allowance for Constituency Project. |
| Re: David Ukpo not a minor, Court rules by LienwaltAbel(m): 2:47pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
descarado:The bolded are contradictory. If he gave his consent under financial induction, then how would the case get dismissed. Y'all are just looking at one small section of the picture instead of looking at the whole thing. The main case is based on two things: 1) exploitation: was the boy brought into the UK for the sake of organ donation without being told? 2) motivation behind organ donation: what was the motivation behind this organ donation? Is the boy in question Sonia's lover (impossible), a close relative (out of the question), or some stupid admirer who wants to give his kidney to her(probably)? If they can jump these hoops, then they are free. However, believe me when I say that the second hook (and the first in a worst case scenario) will surely catch them. |
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person no even fit understand this rubbish wey you type self. Mr Man, it is a crime in most first world countries to buy organs from people. Google it and stop arguing blindly for one of the people who have damaged your country.
