Christistruth00:


Even if he Is fifty Organ trafficking is illegal

even in Nigeria not to talk of UK

enonche85:


Who said it's a crime to sell your own kidney?.

the Nigerian government passed into law, the Trafficking in Persons Prohibition, Enforcement and Administrative Act, which deals on the issue of human trafficking.

He said, “For instance, Section 20, specifically deals with the recruitment of persons for organ harvesting.”

According to him, the law states that any person who through force, deception, threat, debt bondage or any form of coercion, abuses a position of power or situation of dominance or authority arising from a given circumstance or abuses a vulnerable situation or through the giving or receiving of payments or benefits in order to induce or obtain the consent of a person directly or through another person who has control over him enlists, transport delivers, accommodates or takes in another person for the purpose of removing the person’s organs, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term of not less than seven years and a fine of not less than N5,000,000.00.

“Section 20 (2) of the law states that, without prejudice to the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, a person who procures or offers a person, assists or is involved in any way in the removal of human organs or buying and selling of human organs, commits an offence and is liable on conviction imprisonment for a term of not less than seven years and to a fine of not less than N 5,000,000.

“Section 20 (3) also states that any person who enlists, transports, delivers, accommodates or takes in another person under the age of 18 years for the purpose of removing the person’s organs, commits an offence and is liable of conviction to imprisonment for a term of not less than seven years and a fine of not less than N5,000,000.00.”

enonche85:


How is it the organ trafficking illegal when the purpose of travel was stated in the letter Ekweremadu wrote to the UK embassy here in Nigeria?. Why would they say yes here in Nigeria and say no in the UK?...does that make any sense?..

hardbody:


hehe bro[b]i have tried UK police cell briefly [/b]and i am very familiar with their prison and the food is very nasty. its not food meant to be consumed by a black person and most especially not by a nigerian. how do you go from eating ofe nsala with nice grilled catfish and akpu and washing it don with nice palmwine TO eating soggy mushrooms with dried toast ? lmao cheesy cheesy

Bros, no dey whine me abeg

enonche85:


@bolded.....you the first i am hearing this from.

When my brother and his wife were travelling to the US to give birth to their 2nd child, it was said you have to declare at least $10k at the airport when entering for a medical purpose. So that of cash can be defended.

CheapHomes1:


Why, When, where and how did he offer to donate his kidney?

amakanancy:

I already sent an email to Boris Johnson now. Will forward his reply to you

enonche85:


@bolded.....you the first i am hearing this from.

When my brother and his wife were travelling to the US to give birth to their 2nd child, it was said you have to declare at least $10k at the airport when entering for a medical purpose. So that of cash can be defended.

Taking cash in and out of Great Britain
You must declare cash of £10,000 or more to UK customs if you’re carrying it between Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and a country outside the UK.

If you’re travelling as a family or group with more than £10,000 in total (even if individuals are carrying less than that) you still need to make a declaration.

If you’re travelling to Northern Ireland and carrying more than €10,000 (or equivalent) you must follow the rules for taking cash into Northern Ireland.

The earliest you can make a declaration is 72 hours before you plan to travel.

When traveling to the U.S. everyone is required to complete a U.S. Customs and Border Protection Declaration Form 6059B. You may bring large sums of money with you in the form of cash, money order, or traveler's checks. There is no maximum limit, however, any amount exceeding $10,000 USD must be declared upon arrival on both the Form 6059B and FinCEN 105.

All forms must be filled in completely and truthfully. The penalties for inaccurate declaration and non-compliance can be severe including heavy fines and/or confiscation of funds.

For more information, refer to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Agency web site.

CheapHomes1:


Why, When, where and how did he offer to donate his kidney?

1stGenAmerican:


They can’t convince anybody that a young man wanted to donate a kidney to a non-family member with no payment and/or coercion involved. I believe his story about being offered a job/better life and being in the dark about the donation.

CheapHomes1:


Did you forward a mail to Boris Johnson before you said that....."The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."

amakanancy:


No, I spoke to him on phone. When you wahala was getting too much, i sent him an email

CheapHomes1:


When you spoke with him, did he tell you that "The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."?

amakanancy:

ahan!!! and you expect me to continue to answer your interrogation on a social media? you know what? pick up your phone and give him a call..

CheapHomes1:


Is it not on social media you have been making your claims? If it is, then you shouldn't have any problems defending your claims on social media.

When you spoke with him, did he tell you that "The guy wasn't kidnapped. he offered to..."?

amakanancy:

Yes, i made my claims on social media. And some things are still ethical. Now you are asking for classified information. A case that is even still in court. I should tell you details about my conversation with him...who does that?

CheapHomes1:


When you spoke with him, did he tell you that "The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."?

What things are ethical things?

What classified information exactly?

If a case is in court, how did you conclude that "The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."?

tunapawizzy:

As reported by the reporter on TV the day the news broke, it was said that the police arrested them on their way to Turkey, and it is believed they were on their way to purchase an organ...
Of course the more money you have available the better for you, but to carry a lot of money in cash.....don't get me wrong, I don't know the maximum amount u are allowed to carry on u in cash but if it's about what u have in ur account or in your card, no issue about that. Was your brother and his wife mandated to declare that 10kUSD in cash..like carry-on cash?

Christistruth00:




Did Ekweremadu inform the Embassy the guy was a Poor Wheelbarrow Phone accessories seller that he picked off the street and Promised a life in Europe

The British are not Stupid

It was illegal organ trafficking

enonche85:


If you going for a medical purpose it's mandatory to declare a certain amount to prove that you you are not going there to be a liability to anyone.

enonche85:


The major purpose of the visa was stated in the visa, any other details is a personal agreement btw Ekweremadu and the guy.

if you plan to japa through education to canada will you tell the visa officers that you don't plan on comming back to naija?.

1stGenAmerican:


You’re lending credence to MufasLion’s points.

Within working systems, decisions are rendered based on facts, not hearsay, conjectures, or personal opinions. I’m going to say something and stand by it forever: Western Courts don’t prosecute with intentions to shame, punish, embarrass, or hope. Western Courts prosecutes with the intentions of convicting. It isn’t cheap to try a case and it consumes a lot of valuable time. This court intends on trying this case because they are confident that they can get a conviction. Convictions are won by presenting factual evidence, not the testimony of one person.

Dsalvo:



Well the court just ruled the boy is not a minor, when Ekweremadu appeared today, and adjourned. The judge directed that it is to be noted the boy is not a minor as claimed.

Make of that what you will. I will imagine the beginning of throwing the case out has begun.

CPS may have acted over-zealously and have realised, perhaps expensively, that all Nigerians are dishonest and not just politicians.

If the boy is an adult it them becomes his adult word against that of the adult Ekweremadus.

If he lied about his age I dont think we need to belabour what a jury will make of his credibility.


I am sure Ekweremadu is not a stupid man. The Ekweremadus will also get the chance to present their own evidence verifying their own side of events. I am guessing it will show exhaustively that the boy/man acted cynically and that indeed the Ekweremadus may be the victim.

Probably the Ekweremadus may have evidence of payment made to the boy in Nigeria which they can introduce.

Emotions, that leads us to ignore facts to back a flawed position strongly, is never good. After the initial CPS gra gra the Ekweremadus will have their day and say in a non-biased and objective court that has not summarily judged them guilty because they are important people in Nigeria.

At least we, along with the UK CPS, now know they Ekweremadus were not "exploiting" a gullible minor. We will see what transpire from here.


https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-ekweremadus-kidney-donor-not-a-minor-uk-court-rules/amp

1stGenAmerican:


You refuse to understand that the boy’s credibility holds no weight here, he isn’t on trial. You’re being willingly obtuse.
Ekweremadu is a stupid man according to Nigerians who swear he was tricked by a poor street urchin. Ekweremadu also thought that he could get away with the things that landed him in jail so I’d say that he’s pretty stupid too. They were never charged with exploitation of a minor, they are charged with exploitation (along with other things). None of their charges said “minor”.

You say they can introduce evidence of payment? They’d have to be exceptionally stupid to do that because that would prove they’re guilty of the crimes they’re being charged with. The day the introduce proof of payment is the day they sign their own prison sentences.

On Wednesday, a Westminster Magistrates Court in the UK determined that David Nwamini Ukpo, the supposed kidney donor for Senator Ike Ekweremadu's daughter, is not 15 years old.

According to Arise TV, the Ukpo revealed in court that he is 21 years old, has been in the UK since February, and finally showed up to the police in May.



The defence attorney has also refuted the claims of exploitation made by the purported victim.

Dsalvo:


Okay. We will see who is being obtuse when more evidence emerges to reveal he may have been a cynical scammer who was taking the British system for a ride all along.

Perhaps for the purpose of cynically manipulating an arrangement he had initially consented to but later began viewing as a means of remaining in the UK.

You don't get that the judge deliberately ordering it to be noted that the boy is not a minor, as initially claimed, is important and I am the obtuse one?


Also, I said they may introduce evidence of payment as corroboration. I did not say they had. Payment does not have to be purchase fee. It may be for the boys expenses if he had willingly agreed to donate his kidney which is not a crime.

Did you know he only came forward to the police in May after having been in the UK since February? Well, when the case is thrown out you'll agree you were merely emotional and inclined to argue for the only outcome you are biased in favour of.

amakanancy:

ahaaan!!! if the boy is your relative, no vex. na now i know say I have entered the wrong bus! okay please I no dey go again, make i drop!

CheapHomes1:


Is ekwerenmadu your relative? Which wrong bus did you enter? You are in the right bus...the Boris Johnson bus and I following you to your destination hence my questions.

When you spoke with him, did he tell you that "The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."?

What things are ethical things?

What classified information exactly?

If a case is in court, how did you conclude that "The guy wasnt kidnapped. he offered to..."?

1stGenAmerican:


According to the court, he ran to the police after escaping because he was being held and treated as a slave. By that time, the couple was already under investigation. My guess is that since he couldn’t be used as a donor, he was being used as a houseboy. A Nigerian doctor and his wife are languishing in a Texas prison for doing almost the same thing.

Ekweremadu, through his lawyer, averred that he is a serving Senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, representing Enugu West Senatorial District, adding that the 2nd Applicant, his wife, is a chartered accountant and civil servant.

“The applicants have a daughter named Sonia Ekweremadu, who is suffering from kidney failure and the applicants have been managing it for about five years.

“The said daughter of the applicants urgently needed kidney transplant to save her life.

“David Nwamini Ukpo, offered to donate one of his kidneys for the daughter of the applicants if his kidney is compatible with that of Miss Sonia Ekweremadu.

“David Nwamini Ukpo informed the applicants that he is Twenty One (21) years of age having being born in the year 2000.

“The 1st applicant supported the visa application of David Nwamini Ukpo to the United Kingdom with a letter to the British High Commission in Nigeria, explaining the purpose of the visit – to enable him undergo medical examination in the United Kingdom so that the donor and Sonia Ekweremadu get the best of medical attention.

“After conducting various medical tests, the Royal Free Hospital in London decided that the said David Nwamini Ukpo was not a suitable donor because his kidney is not compatible with that of Sonia Ekweremadu”, the applicants added.

They told the court that Ukpo was asked to return to Nigeria, but rather than do so, he approached the authorities in the United Kingdom for protection from being returned to Nigeria.


“David Nwamini Ukpo told the United Kingdom police that he is fifteen years of age contrary to the information supplied to the Applicants by the same David Nwamini Ukpo.

“The Applicants verily believe that Ukpo was actually 21 or more having regards to the public records in the custody of the respondents.

“The Applicants were arrested by the Metropolitan Police in the United Kingdom on June 21 for the allegation that they brought a 15-year-old child (a minor) to the UK to harvest his organs.

“The Applicants were charged before the Uxbridge Magistrate Court, United Kingdom on the 23rd of June 2022 for offences of conspiracy to arrange/facilitate travel of another person with a view to exploitation, namely organ harvesting.

“The court denied them bail and they are presently in the custody of UK authorities.

“The Applicants require documents from the respondents to assist in the fair criminal investigation and as facts In their defence to establish their innocence of the allegation In the charge and to prove that David Nwamini Ukpo is not a minor and Indeed consented to the medical examination in the United Kingdom.

Dsalvo:


You and others can read below to see I was right all along. Obvious how this will pan out once more facts are revealed and the facts are indeed coming out now since the Ekweremadu lawyers have had time to prepare their defence.

What is shown below is an excerpt. Read the whole article to note the Ekweremadu lawyers are not jokers and that, as I insisted all along, the age of Nwamini is very relevant since it is included in the original charge and establishes Nwamini is likely a scammer manipulating the British system so as to remain in the Country as a vulnerable minor.

If you read what is shown below objectively and cannot discern the obvious then good luck to you. When the case is tossed out or the Ekweremadus are found not guilty we will talk again.



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/07/alleged-organ-harvesting-ukpo-offered-to-donate-kidney-to-ekweremadus-daughter-lawyer/

1stGenAmerican:


Their arrests had nothing to do with him being a minor therefore what you are saying is negated.