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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by 8stargeneral: 9:26pm On Jul 15, 2022
humberjade:


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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by humberjade: 9:30pm On Jul 15, 2022
8stargeneral:
DM me.

No wahala, you fit delete your number now, i will get in touch with you tomorrow abeg, man pikin don enter bed.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Eastcoastboy(m): 9:31pm On Jul 15, 2022
humberjade:
Never for once have I experienced power failure, shey na better health care we wan mention, or as I walk freely anytime of the day without fear (leave home for work 3am fearlessly), no police harassment, no banditry or armed robbery. Although you can't rule out pockets of these crimes, but it has never happened to me. So in all ramifications, living abroad (better countries o) outweighs living in naija right now. But sha, there is no place like home, nah naija you fit truly flex your wealth wey you gather abroad.

Whenever you move, just make sure it is done legitimately. Bro, you don't want to end up as an illegal immigrant (i.e, over staying). I would suggest you move to whatever country you want to move to as a student; that's the easiest way to migrate these days, others are tedious and expensive. Except of course you are in the medical line. Just be sure to have some sellable skills, preferably IT related, or basic skills like manicure and pedicure, barbing and hair dressing (just that all my female friends dey rock low cut now grin). Don't travel empty without a skill. And pray for divine favour too.

Now, those who are discouraging you have their different reasons for doing so. For example, on the streets of Berlin for example, I daily run into some of our African people on different stages of madness. While some are making it, some aren't so fortunate, and when one succumbs to the frustration, insanity sets in.

Whichever country you enter, make sure you are legit, pray that God directs your path to meet people that would direct your path (show you the way), don't get carried away, hustle when you still have strength in your bones, find time to blow off steam at interval, and with God on your side, it will be all smiles down the road.

I was fortunate to land in the hands of kind people, who despite what they went through before settling down, welcomed me with both arms and showed me the way. Without them, it would have been hell. And I also met people who didn't want to help, one even said he went through hell, as such, we too should follow the same process, imagine! undecided

I wish you the very best in your quest to relocate abroad. Don't be discouraged. smiley

Imagine! Man recreating pain. Too bad.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Lonepair1: 9:36pm On Jul 15, 2022
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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by tshtsh: 9:38pm On Jul 15, 2022
elonize:
I will not agree dat d internet is d best link cos wen I was looking for jobs .I was called by 1white lady frm Canada who wanted to fraud me of over $106 n she said since she's not d one issuing the visa d chances are slim.
I had to ask n discovered dat its fraudsters.. But I enjoyed the oyibo voice sha "hello how r u" grin
Lol I applied for canadian PR via express entry by reading the contents of the official canadian immigration website and that was sufficient for me. I still prefer that over asking Nigerians in Canada because I learnt long ago how people (my naija people) tend to change once they get to the west. For instance I have a friend who has been in canada for more than 10 years and stayed at my place a few times he visited naija. On one occasion he was visiting and I had just moved to a new apartment with little resources after spending on agency fee/rent/installations and all. There was a vacant room in my house but it had no furniture in it but I ordered a bedframe from konga and bought a foam from mouka. I also bought an AC and installed in the room so he'll be comfortable. He stayed with me as he usually does

Fast-forward I told him I was trying to get a PR but didnt ask him for assistance . More like I informed him. When PR came through I mentioned also but told him I have almost one year before the COPR document will expire thus I will take my time and try to get a job so I wont need to spend out of my savings or sell anything. 6 weeks after my passport was delivered I secured a job and messaged him that I'll be coming and need a place to spend the first two weeks. His response was that he had a long day and suggested we should talk about this the next day. For me this feedback was enough to know that I needed to make an alternative plan. Again thank God for good savings and air bnb . We eventually spoke the next day but he said his house was full but if I could hang and delay trip for two months his friend will move out and I can come. He also said his friend paid him $1000 monthly to stay with him and I can also pay same lol. See why I said information online is more sure as I know how my naija people are when they leave naija. They can be suspicious of almost everyone.

Bottomline the person that housed me for the initial two weeks was my neighbour many years ago who I hadn't seen or spoken to for more than 10 years. The guy even came to pick me from the airport on a workday. I looked for his number when I needed a favour from him and I felt bad because since 2009 I had never asked about him or even made effort to contact him. I relearnt about how unpredictable life can be lol. During my stay at his place I always insisted on paying for the groceries when we went to the market. I earned my first salary while in his house and took him out that day all bills on me lol.

My brother the story is the same in england or USA. I guess the pressure of the western society and suspicion about people back home makes them behave this way. But for me I learnt about this in 2008 when I was going to study outside nigeria for the first time. My dad handed me some money and told me to manage my finances very well while reminding me that friendship and family system in the west is different from in Nigeria. He told me stories about his days as a PhD student in USA and how the support system was non-existent in the western world compared to nigeria. He told me nobody will give me $1 and I got used to it.

So I'll summarize by saying you can do these things on your own. Dont make them feel too important. The government of these countries have made things easier with a lot of information online. Do not pay anybody any money

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by okeysoninv: 9:40pm On Jul 15, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Your family member told you that they are living in 30% of their income while earning minimum wage? I'm not talking of someone else's experience or hear say. I'm talking about MY own experience o. And this is living in Pompey and Soton let's not even talk about London
You are telling me somebody that take home£2000 per a month , spends £180 shares flat. Spends £50 in foods. It's even normal Nigeria food oo. Weekly transportation £18. Other bills are not up to £150. You're economically with the truth. Some hard working guys are earning £4k with two jobs.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Agbebakun22: 9:45pm On Jul 15, 2022
ednut1:
go on LinkedIn and see for your self. Even me work in foreign bank with those things you stated collecting better money
dont mind them, U can check Eno Eka she worked as accountant here before relocating and she's currently doing well and she now work as Business analyst, and also she have her BA training sch, someone that just went there few years ago
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by okeysoninv: 9:46pm On Jul 15, 2022
Litmus:


Nigeria is better, I'm no liar.
in what way, if the guy could left during obj time I wonder now . If Nigeria is better why are they no returning back , the old ones that have stayed 35years ago.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 9:55pm On Jul 15, 2022
naijamerican:


Stop trying to japa and vote Peter OBI. If you vote Tinibu or atiku may god prevent you from ever leaving this self imposed shythole
LWKMD, na by force to vote now grin grin grin
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 9:57pm On Jul 15, 2022
tuzle:
it isn't easy anywhere, but an hardworking person would surely make it there especially the popular countries. Those people that are working for more than 9hrs here and are earning less than 100k if they were abroad, they will earn far better than this and live a more comfortable life than they do here. My friend in Germany was able to build his house, buy a car and still live comfortable there in less than 3years, but when he was in Nigeria earning like 130k he couldn't do the same
Where did he build the house? Nigeria or Germany?

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 9:58pm On Jul 15, 2022
olaolaking:
My friend in Australia is seeking for advice from me if he should come back
Why?, is he staying there illegally?
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by ednut1(m): 9:59pm On Jul 15, 2022
ASAPFERG:
broke ass niggar with lies grin grin
if i was broke i wont be going for skydiving lol https://www.nairaland.com/6604475/skydiving-experience-cookstown-ontario-pictures
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 10:07pm On Jul 15, 2022
kunkelhanspeter:

The amount is nothing there bro after paying your bills you will be living pay check to pay check
Living to survive not to be financially free.
I have a good friend in Germany Bro e no easy for them I wanted to travel but I don’t see myself staying there 5-10 years before coming back because you will need paper to come back.
Many will advise born first before traveling because you might never have the opportunity to do that in Nigeria in 5-10 years imagine if you are 31 like me and travel just for get about kids .
which country are you? and why is it difficult to find woman overthere?
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by SIRTee15: 10:14pm On Jul 15, 2022
Raalsalghul:


Youngsters?

What age range?

single and less than 25 yrs or just after graduation.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by 8stargeneral: 10:16pm On Jul 15, 2022
humberjade:


Likewise...you fit drop your number if you think it is safe
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by 8stargeneral: 10:17pm On Jul 15, 2022
humberjade:


No wahala, you fit delete your number now, i will get in touch with you tomorrow abeg, man pikin don enter bed.
Alright bro,thank u
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by OmoManU: 10:18pm On Jul 15, 2022
TiredHuman:
They know that it is not easy there too
It’s a lie, it’s just pure bad belleism. Infact the west needs a lot of people now than ever they just want you to have value that you will add to their system not just that you will come to become a nuisance.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Ucmeniah: 10:28pm On Jul 15, 2022
Share me the link bro
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by tuzle(m): 10:32pm On Jul 15, 2022
willian10:

Where did he build the house? Nigeria or Germany?
Nigeria

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 10:33pm On Jul 15, 2022
tshtsh:

The internet is your best link not humans. To be fair to them no human being has the power to take you to their host country as you'll still need to subject yourself to an immigration process. Nevertheless I'll tell you a short story.

A friend reached out to me that he had been admitted into a university in toronto and needed a place to stay. His tuition was in the region of $50,000 and he was planning to apply for a student visa with the hope of being able to work and pay the fees. I did not want to discourage him but I knew his plan was not a good one but felt if I told him what I thought he'll think otherwise. I sent him links for one bed apartments in toronto (all starting from $1,800 monthly). He asked if he couldnt get anything cheaper but I told him he could rent a room in someone's apartment for cheaper. His budget was $500 monthly which I couldn't find. He later asked if he could stay in the outskirts and I suggested that he checks the cost of transportation from the outskirts to the city. Rents in the entire greater toronto area are high.
In addition I susggested that he should try and pay his tuition so he can work for his rent/upkeep as no 20 hour a week job will be sufficient to finance a $50k fee. He cut contact with me and told his senior brother I was trying to discourage him from coming.

My reality was that I moved to toronto on a PR not study permit. I had a job offer and someone accommodated me for two weeks. During the two weeks I slept on a couch which was not comfortable but then I was determined not to spend out of the USD10,000 I travelled here with. I opened a bank account and got a credit card with a $4,000 limit. In the third week I paid $1,454 for an AirBnB . I also received my first bi-weekly salary in the third week and have been earning a good income every two Fridays. I later rented my place outside the city jointly with a friend for the time being till I was able to get a credit score which is required to rent an apartment independently.

I reached out to an old friend who had moved to canada 10 years ago with less than a thousand dollars and he told me his canadian girlfriend took a line of credit on his behalf and gave him to pay his fees while he repaid her back when he graduated and started working. But he mentioned that toronto is a much more expensve city than where he studied at.

So again I'll suggest you try to get as much information as possible from the web . The realities may be discouraging but I still feel canada offers a more conducive environment for a young person than nigeria

What kind of job did you get? And did you have a skill before leaving? Plus what year are you talking about

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by willian10: 10:39pm On Jul 15, 2022
casualobserver:


What exactly do you mean by encourage? Let me explain it to you as someone who has a British passport has live abroad for many years but returned home.

The truth is life over there is a sort of bondage for someone with a Nigerian mindset. You are constantly working to pay bills , no matter how much you earn your expenses rise such that you are a slave to your job, the system entraps you in ways I can’t describe here for sake of brevity, unless you are amongst the few who can establish a means of income in the multiples of hundreds of thousands be it dollars be it pounds. Otherwise yes you will eat well and enjoy certain basics that may not be available in Nigeria for most Nigerians but there are many negative intangibles especially for someone raised in Nigeria.

Unless you are a high paying job, $100-200k + life is not a bed of roses. Even at that level you are struggling but can afford things to mitigate the struggles like holidays back home or other destinations. In theory you will be better off than in Nigeria initially but life is such that once you overcome the basic sufferings back in Nigeria, the intangible negatives start to matter. I am back in Nigeria and I wouldn’t go back. I am lucky I can travel out when I am tired of Nigeria but I will never again live abroad….unless I am forced to. With all the problems of Nigeria, there is no place like home. There is a sense of freedom and self worth in Nigeria you have that you lose when you go abroad, that’s one of the intangibles I talk about. No matter what you will always be a nobody abroad….that’s another!!!

Would I encourage anyone to move abroad. It’s a hard question because you will pay a huge psychological price for moving abroad, one you will not understand until you get there and one I can never explain to you until you have experienced it. What I would say is, if you want to go abroad, have a mission and come back with if 5 years!!! I won’t encourage or discourage anyone!!! I wouldn’t actively encourage anyone because I don’t want to be the one responsible for selling you a dream that will not match your reality!!!!

Which country did you go to?
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by darediamond(m): 10:51pm On Jul 15, 2022
krissconnect:
These past weeks, I've been reaching out to my friends who are abroad to help me with links or advices to move abroad too. But I discovered that none of them decided to help, instead they discouraged me either by saying, "it's difficult to move now or the country isn't issuing visa now".

One of my guy in CANADA defiantly ignored my text when I asked him for links or the route he used to move, the other in Korea said the country isn't issuing visa now but he recently moved back and another directly said that it's very hard to get visas now to travel. But one Asian American in the States gave me lots of links to move to the State and even encouraged me to move.

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

NB: I never asked them for fund cos the money is available.
Except for some level of Security, Medical, Academic and Tourism, those oyinbo lands expecially in Europe is total nonsense!!!

If it is to make money is why you wanna relocate, doing Africa Boderless Dollar/Crypto Forex Arbitrage Is The Best. No time wasting, No need of sitting down in any country. You only lock into the Forex system of your selected countries and Move your Naira To and Fro to earn Big time PROFITS REPEATEDLY.

Who has time for slow motion by going to nations that rely on colonies to survive expecially that parasitic arrogant England that majority of her citizens lives on credit and are Slaves to there queen a mother of SACARSM??

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by okuta007: 11:40pm On Jul 15, 2022
RaptorX:
Brazil is a fvcking shithole, that is why 90% of Nigerians living there are arrested at MMIA trying to smuggle drugs into Nigeria.

I can say it any better - God bless you for this truthful comment!
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by TheEnforcer: 11:46pm On Jul 15, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Lol! Road sweepers probably earn minimum wage abroad. You think $2k to $3k per month is big money living abroad?
Big money or not won't he survive on 3k per.month ? What's the average income of Americans themselves, you have no clue about what you re saying
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by ASAPFERG: 11:53pm On Jul 15, 2022
ednut1:
if i was broke i wont be going for skydiving lol https://www.nairaland.com/6604475/skydiving-experience-cookstown-ontario-pictures
how much for skydiving. . You are a broke ass grin grin
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by chigoizie7(m): 12:50am On Jul 16, 2022
That’s because grass is not always greener on the other side.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by HarlequinLekex: 1:19am On Jul 16, 2022
Whether japa or not if you will make it ;you will definitely do.

But just permutate and calculcate well b4 you take any decision.Just follow your heart you will face the consequences whether good or bad.SUCH IS LIFE.Our life journeys will always be different whether successful or not;others making it doesn't mean u will make it and vice versa.


make i go sleep,snoring!!!!!!!
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by holubee21(m): 1:25am On Jul 16, 2022
tshtsh:

Lol I applied for canadian PR via express entry by reading the contents of the official canadian immigration website and that was sufficient for me. I still prefer that over asking Nigerians in Canada because I learnt long ago how people (my naija people) tend to change once they get to the west. For instance I have a friend who has been in canada for more than 10 years and stayed at my place a few times he visited naija. On one occasion he was visiting and I had just moved to a new apartment with little resources after spending on agency fee/rent/installations and all. There was a vacant room in my house but it had no furniture in it but I ordered a bedframe from konga and bought a foam from mouka. I also bought an AC and installed in the room so he'll be comfortable. He stayed with me as he usually does

Fast-forward I told him I was trying to get a PR but didnt ask him for assistance . More like I informed him. When PR came through I mentioned also but told him I have almost one year before the COPR document will expire thus I will take my time and try to get a job so I wont need to spend out of my savings or sell anything. 6 weeks after my passport was delivered I secured a job and messaged him that I'll be coming and need a place to spend the first two weeks. His response was that he had a long day and suggested we should talk about this the next day. For me this feedback was enough to know that I needed to make an alternative plan. Again thank God for good savings and air bnb . We eventually spoke the next day but he said his house was full but if I could hang and delay trip for two months his friend will move out and I can come. He also said his friend paid him $1000 monthly to stay with him and I can also pay same lol. See why I said information online is more sure as I know how my naija people are when they leave naija. They can be suspicious of almost everyone.

Bottomline the person that housed me for the initial two weeks was my neighbour many years ago who I hadn't seen or spoken to for more than 10 years. The guy even came to pick me from the airport on a workday. I looked for his number when I needed a favour from him and I felt bad because since 2009 I had never asked about him or even made effort to contact him. I relearnt about how unpredictable life can be lol. During my stay at his place I always insisted on paying for the groceries when we went to the market. I earned my first salary while in his house and took him out that day all bills on me lol.

My brother the story is the same in england or USA. I guess the pressure of the western society and suspicion about people back home makes them behave this way. But for me I learnt about this in 2008 when I was going to study outside nigeria for the first time. My dad handed me some money and told me to manage my finances very well while reminding me that friendship and family system in the west is different from in Nigeria. He told me stories about his days as a PhD student in USA and how the support system was non-existent in the western world compared to nigeria. He told me nobody will give me $1 and I got used to it.

So I'll summarize by saying you can do these things on your own. Dont make them feel too important. The government of these countries have made things easier with a lot of information online. Do not pay anybody any money
Bro please did you apply for a PR or Student visa and how did you apply?.kindly share how you did it sir.. thanks
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Gerrard59(m): 3:36am On Jul 16, 2022
Sassy256:

I wish I could like your post more than once or make everyone listen to/read this but sadly they will never understand until they come here and see the life for themselves. I personally made the decision that I won't live all my life in this UK, with tier2 visa I hope we get a British passport sooner than later, once I get that with my kids, we're homebound. The passport is just so we can travel as we like cos of the somewhat volatile nature of Nigeria otherwise, NO PLACE LIKE HOME.

I could overlook the divergence...Nigeria is volatile yet you want to return to such a place?

I am genuinely curious, why do you want to return to a volatile place?

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Comedian2019: 3:40am On Jul 16, 2022
Nigerians hate competition.
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Gerrard59(m): 3:42am On Jul 16, 2022
Double post.

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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by PROPEACE: 3:46am On Jul 16, 2022
okeysoninv:
did she also told you amount she earns sweeping the roads
What makes you think sweeping the road in any country can earn you a descent wage in any country? You people are ridiculous.

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