CHoccolaTE:
One reason I think they have been given so much power is because of the money big pharma (major multinational companies) make from their hormones sales to trans and medical care given to those who physically transition.
Trans hormone therapy costs quite abit if used for a few years.

I can't think of any other reason why this madness has become so accepted in the many western countries. Maybe too much liberal thinking led to this. I don't know.

Trans people don't even pose so much of a threat to biological men as much as they do to women. Women are really going through hell in US and Europe because of transgenderism. Transwomen act like psychotic entitled lunatics and demand that they must be allowed access to women's prisons and women's hostels and women's shelters and in a lot of cases, they sue to get their way. Some prisons allow dangerous convicted male prisoners to stay in female prisons just because they identify as women. Women's shelters and public bathrooms have become free for all, any man can easily wear a wig and dress and walk into them, There have been many cases of sexual assault and sexual harassment by these men who were granted access to women's private spaces against the biological women there.

Or is their claiming to be lesbians and demanding that actual lesbians date and sleep with them if not they are trans phobic?

Or their forcing their way into women's sports (Mia Thomas, Fallon fox etc) that went into women's sports and had a clearly unfair advantage over the women they were competing against.



Or their language that erases women and reduces women to body parts and body functions eg uterus havers instead of women, menstruating people instead of women, birthing bodies instead of mothers, non-men, birthing parent, chest-feeders, womb owners etc. That's why I see women who support them as airheads and idiots. And unfortunately, many women still support them and validate their madness inspite of the crap they dish to women on a daily basis.

Treadway:
you have articulated it so beautifully. One of the women you referenced is displaying airhead attributes on this thread. To think she considers this some form of advancement of mankind and society. Awon eyan to po ti ya were o!

truthsayer009:


The funniest part of this whole discourse are Nigerians who move abroad for a 2 year postgraduate and start forming support for all this groups. In my head, I am like ahn ahn, Amaka you that just travelled 2 months ago, you have started adding rainbow flags to your BIO and preaching support for trans. They want to feel among & quickly throw their culture away to the dirt just to feel westernised.

A big reason why I can never bring up my kids in the US, their legs are never going close to that country. Europeans are a little conservative in those areas.

CHoccolaTE:
One reason I think they have been given so much power is because of the money big pharma (major multinational companies) make from their hormones sales to trans and medical care given to those who physically transition.
Trans hormone therapy costs quite abit if used for a few years.

I can't think of any other reason why this madness has become so accepted in the many western countries. Maybe too much liberal thinking led to this. I don't know.

Trans people don't even pose so much of a threat to biological men as much as they do to women. Women are really going through hell in US and Europe because of transgenderism. Transwomen act like psychotic entitled lunatics and demand that they must be allowed access to women's prisons and women's hostels and women's shelters and in a lot of cases, they sue to get their way. Some prisons allow dangerous convicted male prisoners to stay in female prisons just because they identify as women. Women's shelters and public bathrooms have become free for all, any man can easily wear a wig and dress and walk into them, There have been many cases of sexual assault and sexual harassment by these men who were granted access to women's private spaces against the biological women there.

Or is their claiming to be lesbians and demanding that actual lesbians date and sleep with them if not they are trans phobic?

Or their forcing their way into women's sports (Mia Thomas, Fallon fox etc) that went into women's sports and had a clearly unfair advantage over the women they were competing against.



Or their language that erases women and reduces women to body parts and body functions eg uterus havers instead of women, menstruating people instead of women, birthing bodies instead of mothers, non-men, birthing parent, chest-feeders, womb owners etc. That's why I see women who support them as airheads and idiots. And unfortunately, many women still support them and validate their madness inspite of the crap they dish to women on a daily basis.

crackhaus:

It's funny...

bukatyne:


Happy new year.

Where have you been?

truthsayer009:


The funniest part of this whole discourse are Nigerians who move abroad for a 2 year postgraduate and start forming support for all this groups. In my head, I am like ahn ahn, Amaka you that just travelled 2 months ago, you have started adding rainbow flags to your BIO and preaching support for trans. They want to feel among & quickly throw their culture away to the dirt just to feel westernised.

A big reason why I can never bring up my kids in the US, their legs are never going close to that country. Europeans are a little conservative in those areas.

truthsayer009:

The funniest part of this whole discourse are Nigerians who move abroad for a 2 year postgraduate and start forming support for all this groups. In my head, I am like ahn ahn, Amaka you that just travelled 2 months ago, you have started adding rainbow flags to your BIO and preaching support for trans. They want to feel among & quickly throw their culture away to the dirt just to feel westernised.

A big reason why I can never bring up my kids in the US, their legs are never going close to that country. Europeans are a little conservative in those areas.

bukatyne:

My dear Choco Choco, is this you?

Fantastic submission especially the last paragraph.

bukatyne:


My dear Choco Choco, is this you?

Fantastic submission especially the last paragraph.

CHoccolaTE:

Yes, its me indeed ooo

I might be feminist but trans ideology is something I will never support.

CHoccolaTE:
One reason I think they have been given so much power is because of the money big pharma (major multinational companies) make from their hormones sales to trans and medical care given to those who physically transition.
Trans hormone therapy costs quite abit if used for a few years.

I can't think of any other reason why this madness has become so accepted in the many western countries. Maybe too much liberal thinking led to this. I don't know.

Trans people don't even pose so much of a threat to biological men as much as they do to women. Women are really going through hell in US and Europe because of transgenderism. Transwomen act like psychotic entitled lunatics and demand that they must be allowed access to women's prisons and women's hostels and women's shelters and in a lot of cases, they sue to get their way. Some prisons allow dangerous convicted male prisoners to stay in female prisons just because they identify as women. Women's shelters and public bathrooms have become free for all, any man can easily wear a wig and dress and walk into them, There have been many cases of sexual assault and sexual harassment by these men who were granted access to women's private spaces against the biological women there.

Or is their claiming to be lesbians and demanding that actual lesbians date and sleep with them if not they are trans phobic?

Or their forcing their way into women's sports (Mia Thomas, Fallon fox etc) that went into women's sports and had a clearly unfair advantage over the women they were competing against.



Or their language that erases women and reduces women to body parts and body functions eg uterus havers instead of women, menstruating people instead of women, birthing bodies instead of mothers, non-men, birthing parent, chest-feeders, womb owners etc. That's why I see women who support them as airheads and idiots. And unfortunately, many women still support them and validate their madness inspite of the crap they dish to women on a daily basis.

crackhaus:

When I was a man, you wanted me to support you, to love you, to respect your choices, to extol everything you stand for as woman.
Anything less and I was labelled unprintable names.

Then I became a woman – I finally accepted that being a woman is priceless, it's amazing, it's beautiful, and all I asked was for you to accept me, to support me, to love me, to respect my choices in the same way you wanted from me when I was yet a man... And you have turned your back on me, you have refused to afford me that same courtesy.

Is this thing good? E good for your eye?

crackhaus:

When I was a man, you wanted me to support you, to love you, to respect your choices, to extol everything you stand for as woman.
Anything less and I was labelled unprintable names.

Then I became a woman – I finally accepted that being a woman is priceless, it's amazing, it's beautiful, and all I asked was for you to accept me, to support me, to love me, to respect my choices in the same way you wanted from me when I was yet a man... And you have turned your back on me, you have refused to afford me that same courtesy.

Is this thing good? E good for your eye?

Karleb:


The Ts take no prisoner.

They call them TERF. Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists.

Biglittlelois:



The bolded vexes me the most,

And i just read in another thread that they have a pedophile movement and MAP, very soon all hell will break loose, hopefully it won't be too late.

Paxlovid:
I have a question for you. When a trans man gives birth at the hospital, who's the baby's mother?

CHoccolaTE:


That's the most disturbing part, a number of trans males are now pushing for pedophilia to be accepted under the guise of minor accepted person. They don't even hide it, they know that people are scared to challenge them and that makes them bolder to make more outrageous demands that cater to their sexual perversions. Trans males in general usually have some weird sexual perversions and a lot of the time, they get arrested for sexual assault or sexual harassment. If they are not MAP(pedophiles), they are usually rapists or autogynephilic.

Ishilove:
How will your writing come back to hurt you in future? Guy, this is Nigeria. We are still light years away from accepting this alphabet bullshit

kumbhuru:

You are so wierd. Everything about you. Totally off

CHoccolaTE:


Lmao, god abeg oo, so because somebody didn't accept you for who you are, and kept demanding more from you now means you should go overboard and start deceiving yourself that you and biological women are the same?

This your post only goes further to prove how unhinged trans people are.

MadarasBlade:


I don't think you have any moral right to tell any human how they want to be addressed. if they want to seen as men or women, it's up to them.

Feminists brought about this chaos, even though it was for the betterment of the female folk, it gave voice to other groups who percieved themselves to be "downtrodden".

Do you know what every dictator that has existed from time immemorial had in common? The ability to stifle free speech, because they know once they give in into a cause, it goes downhill from there.

If this is the price we have to pay for feminism, then so be it. But remember, you have no moral right!!

CHoccolaTE:


Feminists brought about transgenderism?
LOL, I can't even pretend to take this trolling serious, bye.

baby124:

Maybe Amaka was gay in Nigeria but on moving abroad, finally found the freedom to express herself? That is what is happening.

crackhaus:

That just about explains it.

With such people, once you converse with them and break them down thoroughly, they usually come up hollow because they had no real passion behind their "supposed" support for such things.

truthsayer009:
Ofcourse na, usually I see people campaigning for this trans thing on NL for years, and I also others asking them if they are trans or if they will allow their kids to be trans. Then they keep ignoring the question like they don't see it. Some people have sworn to always be on the woke side of life. Anything woke, they are ready to support it. Whether it make sense or not.

Heiiiiiii. Won ti tun gbe titun de o. Cooking on the beat. Jesus, bros, this dodo you are frying don black pass dodo ikire. Walaitallahi, sumobillahi Al Meen! Yasin! Campaign?! Campaign ke?

Please, list 5 of those pro-transgender activists on this NL for me. For years? Ahh. Not even months. Broo... do you know this trans thing is a very NOVEL topic? It is a very minute, and elite first world shit that less than 2% of people on the Internet discuss. When did transgenderism get into our socio-political discourses? In NIGERIA? Where we still dey battle Boko Haram and Girl Child Education and Electoral Malpractice? Fear God na.

Nobody know these people offline. Not especially in Africa. They are not relevant shit. Is it Oyingbo market women that are concerning themselves with ze/zir pronouns? Even on Nairaland, how many people give a fk about them? Allll of us wey gather for here so, we're less than 0.6% of Nairaland users, so put things in their perspective and don't because of that blow shit out of proportion. Was it not Chimamanda's comments that blew these things up small? Even in the first world gannnnn, when did all the transgender rogbodiyan started? Something that's like a cult following that just picked breeze and started blowing? As at ten years ago, you'll only find one, two, five or at most ten of them then... in America.

How many trans topic don jam front page for this NL?

Please, me I want to see those people o. I will like to see the trans debate that has been happening in NL for YEARS. Do well to accompany your response with tantalising links.

You know what, because it is me and I get that kin craze ehn, I will conjecture that you are referring to cococandy and I will openly state it. You are always attacking her, and Coco + Acidosis are the guys on here who peculiarly have that kind of argument. Acid is always criticising Coco for supporting things that she is not herself and always asking her if she is the things she stands for... and Acid is always specifically asking her if she'll "allow" her children be lesbians or gays... I remember these lines from one argument the three of us were having one time like that. Ordinarily, if another person said what you did, I would not have minded, but for the fact that you have the history of always picking on her and that Acid is always insinuating what you just repeated...

So if vawulence is going to happen, make e happen.

If I am wrong, prove me wrong. I gladly want to be shown wrong.

Tell me the people that have been supporting transgenderism on NL... like I want to see the debate than has been raging for years...

Love scams featuring Coogarlious bobos and Sienna fine wines... I know.

Feminism mania... I know.

Diasporans vs. Naija peeps I know...

Rap and Diss battles... I know.

Miss Nairaland contests... I know.

Get-together parties or something like that... e happen...

Blackmails and mass deactivation of female users... e don shele...

Redpill movement... e still dey rage... and many many more generations of NL timeline I don't recall.

But transgenderism? Which era? All of the above happened post-2010 or thereabouts... five years after NL creation... so was transgenderism a hotly debated topic circa 2006-2008? I was not here. Boya you know, ngbayen.

truthsayer009:
Lmaooo, okay o, but I still know a lot of people who are not gay or who claimed not to be gay , but aggressively supporting this nonsense trans movement on Family section for years. I won't mention anybody's name cause I don't want wahala.

Nahhh, dude. You are being mischievous and you know it. Call cococandy's name with your full chest and stop going through corners.

This just tells me all I need to know about whom you are referring to, and not some "people." E say e no want wahala.

Don't worry, I have cleared the way... if she decides to ignore you, then you just may not have the wahala afterall.

Because if you were truly referring to a genuine trend, why won't you mention one or two monikers of people on this FAMILY section that have been supporting trans for years? Even if such people exist, are you insulting or slighting them in anyway? If you mention me as a feminist, purely, I no go get mad. Because na watin I be be that and you are saying it as it is... so why can you not mention the pro-trans peeps for who they are since it is something they take pride in? What is the "wahala" in you mentioning them there?

E even say *aggressively supporting*.

Mtcheeeeww. Come insult me o or come with guns blazing, but if yawa gas, you're welcome in advance. I have done the messenger work you no get the chutzpah to deliver.

Magnoliaa:


Nahhh, dude. You are being mischievous and you know it. Call cococandy's name with your full chest and stop going through corners.

This just tells me all I need to know about whom you are referring to, and not some "people." E say e no want wahala.

Don't worry, I have cleared the way... if she decides to ignore you, then you just may not have the wahala afterall.

Because if you were truly referring to a genuine trend, why won't you mention one or two monikers of people on this FAMILY section that have been supporting trans for years? Even if such people exist, are you insulting or slighting them in anyway? If you mention me as a feminist, purely, I no go get mad. Because na watin I be be that and you are saying it as it is... so why can you not mention the pro-trans peeps for who they are since it is something they take pride in? What is the "wahala" in you mentioning them there?

E even say *aggressively supporting*.

Mtcheeeeww. Come insult me o or come with guns blazing, but if yawa gas, you're welcome in advance. I have done the messenger work you no get the chutzpah to deliver.

Magnoliaa:


Nahhh, dude. You are being mischievous and you know it. Call cococandy's name with your full chest and stop going through corners.

This just tells me all I need to know about whom you are referring to, and not some "people." E say e no want wahala.

Don't worry, I have cleared the way... if she decides to ignore you, then you just may not have the wahala afterall.

Because if you were truly referring to a genuine trend, why won't you mention one or two monikers of people on this FAMILY section that have been supporting trans for years? Even if such people exist, are you insulting or slighting them in anyway? If you mention me as a feminist, purely, I no go get mad. Because na watin I be be that and you are saying it as it is... so why can you not mention the pro-trans peeps for who they are since it is something they take pride in? What is the "wahala" in you mentioning them there?

E even say *aggressively supporting*.

Mtcheeeeww. Come insult me o or come with guns blazing, but if yawa gas, you're welcome in advance. I have done the messenger work you no get the chutzpah to deliver.

truthsayer009:
Alright Magnoliaa, thanks for you Input. I got your message.

truthsayer009:


Ofcourse na, usually I see people campaigning for this trans thing on NL for years, and I also others asking them if they are trans or if they will allow their kids to be trans. Then they keep ignoring the question like they don't see it. Some people have sworn to always be on the woke side of life. Anything woke, they are ready to support it. Whether it make sense or not.

truthsayer009:


Lmaooo, okay o, but I still know a lot of people who are not gay or who claimed not to be gay , but aggressively supporting this nonsense trans movement on Family section for years. I won't mention anybody's name cause I don't want wahala.

cococandy:


Why does it upset you?

There are some issues that don't need any research because we grew up experiencing them, for example: Black people marginalisation & slavery, fighting for their rights. We all knew about colonialism, we grew up reading about the suffering of African countries and those moved into the US before the 1900s. So ofcourse we understand fighting for their rights is necessary. Growing up in Nigeria grassroots, we all know about women's issues also. Domestic violence, marginalisation and all that. Nobody can argue that women need to fight for their rights. People complain about the methods including me but ultimately agree that there is need for it. Regarding same sex attraction, people get attracted to whom ever they want to, because I believe those things are temporary & it changes overtime. So it doesn't even worry me. This has nothing to do with morality or christianity.

But you see whole full blown liberalism that leads to act of transitioning between one gender to another completely doesn't make sense to me. it causes a lot of confusion and I have always been against it right from time. Now we have non-binary as well, this is so confusing.

What annoys me and I find fascinating is that, a lot of people who also agree that this doesn't make sense continue to push it as a movement they are genuinely interested in which I find disingenuous. I understand If you're a politician like Obama who has to support the movement due to Politics but doesn't want his own kids to become such, but for free humans like us. It completely make no sense.

The need for people feeling that they must support every movement pisses me off. Especially when you know deep down within your heart that this doesn't make any sense. You know! We all know.

Personally, anything regarding Trans or trans people. I totally ignore discussions around it because my employers could get to see my posts online & I don't want to lose my source of livelihood because of opinions.