DispatcherLagos:

Living in Nigeria is very risky. If you can, leave as soon as possible. Don't be deceived by those who are stuck

All of you that tell people to leave, without telling them where or what to leave to, especially those of you who have never been-to, continue. The grass always looks greener on the other side.

baby124:

Average nurses salary rate is about 40-50 dollars. This rate is based on the annual salary earned. A 14% jump from a year ago definitely signifies a lot of overtime. But that’s just how I read it. Plus you have to be a really specialized nurse with specialized training to make that 80. Plus years of experience. I have a relative who is a doctor of nursing.

Again it depends on your state. As a new grad with no experience , $40+ was my starting pay years ago.

I’ve heard of nurses in the south say they pay them $25-30/ hour. I feel bad for them. But Republican states are notorious for that

RedChiefPriest:
Well if he sees better offer and if he thinks the country have more to offer him than naija then he's free to move.
But if I get 24 million job per year for this naija and vampire and zombies dey kill fo Street,i no fit leave ooo.
Na to go buy better ammunition and start playing real life COD.
One Hand on steering and the other hand on my gun ready to shoot any bagger I sight.

Are you related to John Wick or John the wicked Producer?

cococandy:
Yes you’re right. Doctors are not the average folks. The only reason I even mentioned them is because you said that $149k/yr looks like Dr pay. Doctors make way more. That was my point.

Here’s another nurse’s job offer. She’s also my colleague. In fact I’ll be posting numbers henceforth since words don’t seem to be enough.

At $94/hr working only 36 hours a week 3 days week, she’s making $175k/year. No overtime. In fact her organization is unionized therefore every shift she works that’s is over 8 hours she makes extra 50% per hour on the hour.

I’m waiting for another friend to text me her pay stub.

Let’s put a stop to misinformation

Regular doctors do make from 150k and above. These are non specialized doctors. Not the cardiologists and all those. I don’t have the details of what you are posting here so I can’t argue it. But the average pay of the average American is a lot lower than that. In healthcare the difference is overtime. When it averages out it’s not that different from a regular days job.

If the pay you post is really that rate, it will be a base salary and there would not be an hourly rate. Most unionized people are protected because their skills really should command a lot less pay in a regular capitalist society.

No true executive or director which is the rate of that pay can belong to a union. Even in state jobs that are the most unionized.

WatchYourSix:
.who da heck leaves 24 million per year job for masters in uk..

Thats a senior management remuneration ...
make una no dey cap any how jarè....People always like fabricating worst case scenarios to prove a point ..

Many have left and it's no big deal. It's all about choices.

In fact many of the nurses I know hate overtime unless there’s an extra bonus on top of the standard extra 50% that the law requires. They work their 3 days complain about it and run away to come back another time.

The one below is a base hourly rate. All healthcare workers that are not management are usually hourly based. It’s only the management that are salary based.

This one worked 74 hours in a pay period. That’s two weeks. Therefore only 37 hours in a week. That’s not even full time in some fields . So definitely not working any overtime. No bonuses, no holiday pay nothing. Grossing 5920/ pay period brings this one’s income to $153k/yr. All these are before taxes. therefore, they take home less than than that but it’s still a far cry from what the information on NL states.

I don’t know if people that lie about their pay do it so that others won’t know what they know therefore won’t join them and compete with them. I’ll be bringing more numbers.

My girls are now wondering what I’m doing with their pay information .

baby124:

Regular doctors do make from 150k and above. These are non specialized doctors. Not the cardiologists and all those. I don’t have the details of what you are posting here so I can’t argue it. But the average pay of the average American is a lot lower than that. In healthcare the difference is overtime. When it averages out it’s not that different from a regular days job.

If the pay you post is really that rate, it will be a base salary and there would not be an hourly rate. Most unionized people are protected because their skills really should command a lot less pay in a regular capitalist society.

No true executive or director which is the rate of that pay can belong to a union. Even in state jobs that are the most unionized.

Have you factored in taxes, rent, bills, groceries . . . ? Yeah, one could be making $15 an hour which is $600 a week, but after taxes, take home pay maybe under $500 a week times 4 which is $2000. Deduct 401k investment, groceries, rent, phone bills . . . from it to get the remaining sum of money.

P/S Earning two million naira a month in Nigeria is way better than $15.00 an hour in the US

1stGenAmerican:


You’re right about that. The myth of working 2-3 jobs like a dog is just a lie people tell unless someone is in either country illegally.
Example: Amazon in the UK and US will hire just about anyone over age 18 who is in the country legally.

Here in the US, Amazon’s minimum wage is $15 per hour, even for people working from home and it’s $10-11.76 per hour in the UK.
A couple without any higher education in the US legally who are authorized to work can stay home and each work 40 hours a week for Amazon (overtime is optional and sometimes unlimited). So without working any overtime:

USA
$15/hr x 40 hours/week= $600 x 2= $1,200/ week
$1,200/week x 52 weeks/year= $62,400 annually in the household

UK
$10/hr x 40/wk= $400 x 2= $800/wk
$800/wk x 52 weeks/yr= $41,600 annually in the household

USA
Overtime = 1.5 of hourly salary
Amazon Overtime for a Minimum Wage Worker in the US is $22.50 per hour

UK
Amazon Overtime for the lowest paid worker is $15/hour

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Ndipe:
Have you factored in taxes, rent, bills, groceries . . . ? Yeah, one could be making $15 an hour which is $600 a week, but after taxes, take home pay maybe under $500 a week times 4 which is $2000. Deduct 401k investment, groceries, rent, phone bills . . . from it to get the remaining sum of money.

P/S Earning two million naira a month in Nigeria is way better than $15.00 an hour in the US

Gas for the generator and other inconveniences will eat up most of those earnings, you know the same.
I make far from $15/hr but there are people who do and they still manage to live well.
I’ll never believe that life is better there but everything aside, comfort and peace of mind has no price. No amount of money can buy sanity but to each his own.

cococandy:
In fact many of the nurses I know hate overtime unless there’s an extra bonus on top of the standard extra 50% that the law requires. They work their 3 days complain about it and run away to come back another time.

The one below is a base hourly rate. All healthcare workers that are not management are usually hourly based. It’s only the management that are salary based.

This one worked 74 hours in a pay period. That’s two weeks. Therefore only 37 hours in a week. That’s not even full time in some fields . So definitely not working any overtime. No bonuses, no holiday pay nothing. Grossing 5920/ pay period brings this one’s income to $153k/yr. All these are before taxes. therefore, they take home less than than that but it’s still a far cry from what the information on NL states.

I don’t know if people that lie about their pay do it so that others won’t know what they know therefore won’t join them and compete with them. I’ll be bringing more numbers.

My girls are now wondering what I’m doing with their pay information .

Haha!
You’ve posted a hard receipt proving that these abroad stories are just lies. One job, no overtime, no 12-18 hour days like these people claim we all have to work.
I’m waiting for someone in Ng to say that the money is ‘small’ and try to count her money by presenting a set of grossly overestimated expenses.

Baby124. Just a quick search of my county and nearby. Zip code hidden because of stalkers otherwise that’s not a big deal to share.

The first posting is for a full time position.

New grads start at $90k/year now because they increased pay due to inflation. More experienced employees can make up to $172k/year. Full time. No overtime or bonuses included yet

Other postings are for various counties for comparison. I feel the need to do this because you said my first post was suspicious and then said “if that’s truly the rate”. I wouldn’t make stuff like this up when it’s easily verifiable

Personally my organization does 8 hour days but I can do 12 hours because they’ll pay me extra 50% for every hour after the 8th hour. That works for me because I take 4 days off each week sometimes 5 days off if I’m feeling lazy and still come ahead with plenty plenty of time for my family.

1stGenAmerican:


Haha!
You’ve posted a hard receipt proving that these abroad stories are just lies. One job, no overtime, no 12-18 hour days like these people claim we all have to work.
I’m waiting for someone in Ng to say that the money is ‘small’ and try to count her money by presenting a set of grossly overestimated expenses.

Rented a duplex in lekki or he owned a duplex in lekki?

cococandy:
Personally my organization does 8 hour days but I can do 12 hours because they’ll pay me extra 50% for every hour after the 8th hour. That works for me because I take 4 days off each week sometimes 5 days off if I’m feeling lazy and still come ahead with plenty plenty of time for my family.

That’s what living life is really about!

cococandy:
Baby124. Just a quick search of my county and nearby. Zip code hidden because of stalkers otherwise that’s not a big deal to share.

The first posting is for a full time position.

New grads start at $90k/year now because they increased pay due to inflation. More experienced employees can make up to $172k/year. Full time. No overtime or bonuses includes yet

Other postings are for various counties for comparison. I feel the need to do this because you said my first post was suspicious and then said “if that’s truly the rate”. I wouldn’t make stuff like this up when it’s easily verifiable

So people who do not work in healthcare also earn such rates or? The average salary for Americans is 50k. So everyone should work in nursing? These places where you earn this much, what is the cost of living? What state is this? You can earn this and how much will you spend on rent and buying a house? One of those jobs I looked up, average house price is over 700k

DispatcherLagos:

Living in Nigeria is very risky. If you can, leave as soon as possible. Don't be deceived by those who are stuck

Yeah go and be parasite in someone else's land then be protesting blm

1stGenAmerican:


I’ve never worked for Amazon and I haven’t earned $15/hour since I was an undergraduate but hourly wages have nothing to do with the question I posed about remittances.

Every story Nigerians tell about people abroad involves struggle, living in poverty, and barely surviving therefore I asked how Nigerians in the diaspora manage to remit $19.2 billion per year if they are all struggling to survive another day as Nigerians say they are.

Well I personally don’t know anyone who’s struggling to live. You don’t save a lot of money maybe yes, but struggle to survive not really.

baby124:

So people who do not work in healthcare also earn such rates or? The average salary for Americans is 50k. So everyone should work in nursing? These places where you earn this much, what is the cost of living? What state is this? You can earn this and how much will you spend on rent and buying a house? One of those jobs I looked up, average house price is over 700k

* I didn’t say everyone should do it. You doubted the post I made saying it was suspicious that’s why I went to all that trouble to prove I wasn’t making it up. That’s all I was getting at. I’m not saying this is applicable to everyone. But it’s more common to earn closer to that figure than to not.

* Mind you this average includes minimum wage earners who are usually high schoolers or people who are temporarily finding their footing, so it skews the average. Many established people with families and settled in a career of their choosing earn more than $50k. And that’s two parents working which brings their wages over 6 figures easily.

* Averages can somehow not paint a true picture. Mind you we are also talking about Nigerians here. Not the general American public. Most Nigerians hustle and get themselves into good positions because they understand they are here for a reason. The beginning of my argument in this thread is that it’s uncommon for us immigrants to be doing 2-3 minimum wage jobs and scraping by like the usual NL story goes. I’m not really speaking for all Americans. And I’m definitely not speaking for white people who are included in these averages.


Interestingly I’ve temporarily been in a state where they pay low because “cost of living is low”. In my experience It’s all a lie they tell to underpay workers hence they forbid unions that can fight for workers rights. Somehow even with their “lower cost of living” I still came out financially ahead in the so called more expensive states.

SeaTrade:
Baba you're very generous with time.
It takes way longer than that to fully blend but make we just assume say grace dey.

Even that 2-3 yrs I dash him… the wife would be done with school, work permit is expired, the paper process alone will destabilize the journey sef.

Guderian:
Crazy people.
Who said everyone gat the same ambitions,some people earning 7 figures monthly are tired and depressed with their job, they want to try somefin new

Most people leave their high paying jobs and become adventures or do somefin they love

Na Nigerian poverty mentality. Oyinbo that has had comfortable life all their life sometimes leave well paid jobs to be climbing mountains, doing humanitarian work etc. But because of poverty mentality, we are always thinking about more money to eat and be fat, buy car and house etc.

cococandy:
Personally my organization does 8 hour days but I can do 12 hours because they’ll pay me extra 50% for every hour after the 8th hour. That works for me because I take 4 days off each week sometimes 5 days off if I’m feeling lazy and still come ahead with plenty plenty of time for my family.

I'm impressed with the stats you have posted.

Does that men you go to work thrice a week or twice a week?

cococandy:


* I didn’t say everyone should do it. You doubted the post I made saying it was suspicious that’s why I went to all that trouble to prove I wasn’t making it up. That’s all I was getting at. I’m not saying this is applicable to everyone. But it’s more common to earn closer to that figure than to not.

* Mind you this average includes minimum wage earners who are usually high schoolers or people who are temporarily finding their footing, so it skews the average. Many established people with families and settled in a career of their choosing earn more than $50k. And that’s two parents working which brings their ages over 6 figures easily.

* Averages can somehow not paint a true picture. Mind you we are also talking about Nigerians here. Not the general American public. Most Nigerians hustle and get themselves into good positions because they understand they are here for a reason. The beginning of my argument in this thread is that it’s uncommon for us immigrants to be doing 2-3 minimum wage jobs and scraping by like the usual NL story goes. I’m not really speaking for all Americans. And I’m definitely not speaking for white people who are included in these averages.


Interestingly I’ve temporarily been in a state where they pay low because “cost of living is low”. In my experience It’s all a lie they tell to underpay workers hence they forbid unions that can fight for workers rights. Somehow even with their “lower cost of living” I still came out financially ahead in the so called more expensive states.

Most Americans don’t live in big cities and expensive states where the rents and cost of living is high. So they get paid less. When you factor in cost of living, the pay averages out. The fact is, nurses are paid that much and only of recent because in the past you will have to work a lot to earn that. It’s the demand that is driving those rates and the unions. Most regular people in lower risk jobs who are just as highly if not more specialized do not earn that much. What someone earns in a city will be higher that what one earns in a regular state. Even the minimum wage is higher in cities because you will pay a lot out of your pocket to survive.

When nurses salaries are taken on a national basis and averaged out, the rate is still with 40-50. They take into consideration as well those in regular states earning 50k but their houses go for 250-300k. At the end of the day, you save the same amount from your salary after living expenses.

JohnBullMySon:
Honestly this one is not a very wise decision.

I know Nigeria has security issues, but what are the odds that he will fall victim?
However it is almost a sure thing that he'll live a poorer life in the UK. Is he even sure of remaining in the UK permanently after that masters?
Even if he remains, hope he's in a field that will pay highly. Inflation is on the rise in the UK as well.

Anyways, his choice, his life. Wishing him the very best.

If you get sick in Naija you die faster. Kidney dialysis alone is N100k per session.. x 3x a wk=N300k x 4 =N1.2m , so you need N16m a year to be alive.. excluding other medications, housing and feeding. Look at the Ekweremadus.. Average life expectancy is 55yrs

baby124:

So people who do not work in healthcare also earn such rates or? The average salary for Americans is 50k. So everyone should work in nursing? These places where you earn this much, what is the cost of living? What state is this? You can earn this and how much will you spend on rent and buying a house? One of those jobs I looked up, average house price is over 700k

What exactly are you up to?, in the face of her evidences you are still grappling on straws.

You really do think that these folks earning 50+M naira in Nigeria who are relocating are all dumb and all have no idea what they are going into?

Only poor folks see only money and complain about good earners relocating …. When you see money, you’ll care more about things money can’t easily afford

And for proper context, as at today, 1 USD equals 630 naira. As such 24million naira today equals 38K USD. It could easily equal 20K USD in a year (or less) following current devaluation trajectory. Infact, the folks relocating are the smart ones.

1stGenAmerican:


I’ve never worked for Amazon and I haven’t earned $15/hour since I was an undergraduate but hourly wages have nothing to do with the question I posed about remittances.

Every story Nigerians tell about people abroad involves struggle, living in poverty, and barely surviving therefore I asked how Nigerians in the diaspora manage to remit $19.2 billion per year if they are all struggling to survive another day as Nigerians say they are.

U dey mind them. You’re being conservative with that figure. Less than 5% of Nigerians in diaspora send more $35bn yr to Nigerians in Naija.
They made a good decision to leave.
If you get sick in Naija you die faster. Kidney dialysis alone is N100k per session.. x 3x a wk=N300k x 4 =N1.2m , so you need N16m a year to be alive.. excluding other medications, housing and feeding. Look at the Ekweremadus.. Average life expectancy is 55yrs

WatchYourSix:
.who da heck leaves 24 million per year job for masters in uk..

Thats a senior management remuneration ...
make una no dey cap any how jarè....People always like fabricating worst case scenarios to prove a point ..

Oga that thing is not much ooo.. In a year not a month… Are you sure you factored into it the other needs?.. Quality health care service, end up spending 10% of it in fuelling generator for the month and so many things. He will leave work by 7am and stay in the traffic for 3 hours to get to work and then another 3 hours while going home. I will still leave such jobs

The truth is we need to be realistic and factor in cost of living. This expectation where people have and see big salaries is what makes them desperate to travel. When they travel and they see what enters their account after taxes and living expenses they start to get frustrated. They can’t live the big life they dreamed. If it was all luxury so many of our people will not be caught up in fraud.

The truth is most Americans are just comfortable and a lot or in serious debt. Let’s paint a realistic picture here. So people don’t keep traveling and get frustrated when they can’t make such pay or live a luxury life on the big salaries being posted.

He should make around that amount plus the numerous benefits of living in the UK which Nigeria won’t afford him or his great grand children

A couple get married and have kids. Ok, they earn together over 100k. But you forget childcare will soon come which in some areas good childcare is over 2k a month per child.

In my personal experience living in both low and high paying states, I saved more being in a high paying state with the supposedly higher cost of living. The things they look at to judge how they should pay folks are things like cost of houses, milk and gas. That’s what determines cost of living estimates.

But you end up spending almost same in departmental stores like Costco, Walmart etc where you buy your daily needs. It doesn’t even out to be the same in the end because you may pay $1000-$2000/month more in rent but you’re making $4-5k more. Which one is better then?

Anyway I feel like I made my point which is that

1) most immigrants are not doing 2-3 jobs scraping to survive like they love to believe on NL.

2) that my initial post wasn’t suspicious. It’s a real pay.

3) that someone making the amount of money stated in the OP can leave if they want and it won’t be a financial mistake because they can make up for it.

I really don’t want to argue the other points. If they even make $40-$50 per hour, it’s still very very very decent pay and is worth leaving the country for. Especially if they are a working couple and they can both make $35-$40/hr each. That’s $145k-$166k/yr of household income. It’s nothing to be broke about.

That being said there are other high paying jobs that are not in healthcare.
I think we can agree that a couple making $35/hr each with both of them working are making a good salary. I hope you agree

baby124:

Most Americans don’t live in big cities and expensive states where the rents and cost of living is high. So they get paid less. When you factor in cost of living, the pay averages out. The fact is, nurses are paid that much and only of recent because in the past you will have to work a lot to earn that. It’s the demand that is driving those rates and the unions. Most regular people in lower risk jobs who are just as highly if not more specialized do not earn that much. What someone earns in a city will be higher that what one earns in a regular state. Even the minimum wage is higher in cities because you will pay a lot out of your pocket to survive.

When nurses salaries are taken on a national basis and averaged out, the rate is still with 40-50. They take into consideration as well those in regular states earning 50k but their houses go for 250-300k. At the end of the day, you save the same amount from your salary after living expenses.

Flets:


What exactly are you up to?, in the face of her evidences you are still grappling on straws.

You really do think that these folks earning 50+M naira in Nigeria who are relocating are all dumb and all have no idea what they are going into?

Only poor folks see only money and complain about good earners relocating …. When you see money, you’ll care more about things money can’t easily afford

Bro that thing is not much ooo. I don’t know the way people are seeing 24 million naira per annum.. In a year not a month… You have to factor into it the other needs ooo.. No Quality health care service, he will end up spending 10% of it in fuelling generator for the month and so many things. He will leave work by 7am and stay in the traffic for 3 hours to get to work and then another 3 hours while going home. The hardship don hit us too much for Nigeria our brain don format. Anyway I really don’t blame anyone thinking so, few years ago when I was in Nigeria I could have thought in that direction but omo after moved Mehn if you give me such offer I will still leave 500 million times. Like ehhh

cococandy:
In my personal experience living in both low and high paying states, I saved more being in a high paying state with the supposedly higher cost of living. The things they look at to judge how they should pay folks are things cost of houses, milk and gas. That’s what determines cost of living estimates.

But you end up spending almost same in departmental stores like Costco, Walmart etc where you buy your daily needs. It doesn’t even out to be the same in the end because you may pay $1000-$2000/month more in rent but you’re making $4-5k more. Which one is better then?

Anyway I feel like I made my point which is that

1) most immigrants are not doing 2-3 jobs scraping to survive like they love to believe on NL.

2) that my initial post wasn’t suspicious. It’s a real pay.

3) that someone making the amount of money stated in the OP can leave if they want and it won’t be a financial mistake because they can make up for it.

I really don’t want to argue the other points. If they even make $40-$50 per hour, it’s still very very very decent pay and is worth leaving the country for. Especially if they are a working couple and they can both make $35-$40/hr each. That’s $145k-$166k/yr of household income. It’s nothing to be broke about.

That being said there are other high paying jobs that are not in healthcare.
I think we can agree that a couple making $35/hr each with both of them working are making a good salary. I hope you agree

An expensive state, living in the trenches, rent is 2k per month for 1bedroom. I am currently in the US on travel. In good areas you are paying 3k-4K per month for one bedroom. Let’s not factor in costs of living. Healthcare alone you pay for, retirement you also pay for. Childcare you pay a lot for. Let’s be realistic and not keep telling people the life is luxurious. Most Americans after bills barely save. If you are now the type that wants a luxurious life, you will struggle.