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Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09pm On Jul 31, 2022
advanceDNA:
Questions??...lol...u assume a lot...
I dont know how you came up with the idea that i have questions for you....i know all about you lots
I've met many of you..there are some fantastic JWs among you who relate with people with love and dont think they are better than everyone else Jesus paid the price for just becos they are part of an organization
You are missing something vital here!

The highlighted is the perfect description of all JWs when dealing with neighbours without a single thing to do with faith, in fact you will love to be my friend if you meet me in person.
But when it's time for SACRED MATTERS that's the time to go our separate ways.

Please don't misquote us, we are like everyone else so we are in no way better than people in the neighbourhood, the one and only difference between JWs and all other people is ability to IDENTIFY Jesus' spiritual brothers.

According to Jesus God's Holy Spirit will anoint a group of men to work for him during the end time {Matthew 24:45} they will gather millions of people throughout the earth and make them disciples of Christ {Act 1:8} their mission is to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so don't think we hate you NO! It's just that when it comes to SACRED MATTERS we will stick to the teachings of Jesus' anointed brothers while all others will stick to whatever their hearts says.

You too will notice that the one and only issue here is our organization apart from that you and i has no serious issue. Well that's exactly how you've been dealing with all my brothers out there and you can never have any issue with us apart from the organization of people under the control of Jesus' anointed brothers:
The little flock! Luke 12:32 smiley
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 7:17pm On Jul 31, 2022
REASON #7
Abuse. Jw are abusive. Physical abuse,mental abuse,emotional abuse...etc are all part of Jw organisation policy. They condone it. They cover over child abuse. When u walk away frm them,u r an apostate!
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 7:18pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
& u know when the prediction fails,the leaders don't take responsibility of misleading the people,instead,they shift the blame to the members for being overly zealous! But these members had believed them & gave up their posessions because the end was coming very soon
JWs are NEVER infallible. It is on public record.
Proverbs 24:16 & 2 Corinthians 13:9-11 is in your Bible.
What else do you want?

All Christendom leaders made false predictions of prosperous 2020 rather than Covid global pandemic reducing their tithes.
Have you ever called them out?
The pastorpreneur who predicted in 2010 that God reavealed your country "will be among the leading world power in 2020", have you called him out to "take responsibility of misleading the sheeples"?

Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20pm On Jul 31, 2022
Wilgrea7:
I don't hate them as people. I have wonderful friends that are JWs. But their beliefs don't make any logical sense to me.
That's what i'm saying!
Everyone will like to be our friend if you come in contact with us on individual level but when it comes to our worship even though we don't do anything against you in person yet the hatred will come naturally just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:22 smiley
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 7:24pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
REASON #7
Abuse. Jw are abusive. Physical abuse,mental abuse,emotional abuse...etc are all part of Jw organisation policy. They condone. They cover over child abuse.
LIAR.
Even before you were born, child abuse or sexual immorality is serious, grave sin for which unrepentant individuals have been disfellowship
.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 7:34pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
LIAR.
Even before you were born, child abuse or sexual immorality is serious, grave sin for which unrepentant individuals have been disfellowship
.
no problem calling me a liar but someone else might see the truth in it
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
LIAR.
Even before you were born, child abuse or sexual immorality is serious, grave sin for which unrepentant individuals have been disfellowship
.
He's just fighting a lost battle, after all he can read with his own eyes how his friends are talking about fine qualities of Jehovah's Witnesses apart from the ORGANIZATION.
Jesus said:
"A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:18

So he's just suffering from emotional torture knowing that there's a group performing better than his Olumba Olumba!
https://www.nairaland.com/7253447/experience-olumba-obu-ooo

wink
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 7:50pm On Jul 31, 2022
REASON 8
Spiritual encounters. Some people leave the Jw after having personal encounter with God/Jesus/Holy spirit/ancestral spirit/or any deity. Such encounters, whether positive or negative, often disprove Jw teachings because they don't really understand the spiritual aspect of our existence,they deal with the physical. Anyone who experience the spiritual world will no longer be satisfied with the jw ignorant teaching on spirituality
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by advanceDNA: 7:53pm On Jul 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You are missing something vital here!

The highlighted is the perfect description of all JWs when dealing with neighbours without a single thing to do with faith, in fact you will love to be my friend if you meet me in person.
But when it's time for SACRED MATTERS that's the time to go our separate ways.

Please don't misquote us, we are like everyone else so we are in no way better than people in the neighbourhood, the one and only difference between JWs and all other people is ability to IDENTIFY Jesus' spiritual brothers.

According to Jesus God's Holy Spirit will anoint a group of men to work for him during the end time {Matthew 24:45} they will gather millions of people throughout the earth and make them disciples of Christ {Act 1:8} their mission is to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so don't think we hate you NO! It's just that when it comes to SACRED MATTERS we will stick to the teachings of Jesus' anointed brothers while all others will stick to whatever their hearts says.

You too will notice that the one and only issue here is our organization apart from that you and i has no serious issue. Well that's exactly how you've been dealing with all my brothers out there and you can never have any issue with us apart from the organization of people under the control of Jesus' anointed brothers:
The little flock! Luke 12:32 smiley
You are highly delusional....i have never seen heard craziness at this level before....You can't treat others with love and respect but claim you have love..??..you claim you are the only followers of Jesus....

You leaders just tell you other believers all over the world who dont have love ...and they show you some verses claiming that means you are the only one that have love.... and that's it ?? What prrof do you have others dont have love..??

Gosh.!!!
The way muslims think and how they belive its okay to kill their fellow man always beats me ....but now I get..

. it's the same delusional thinking of superiority to others your leaders have passed on to you.. u guys are just bunch of proud people feeling superior..


The only few among you people that respect other people in the body of Christ are the naturally humble ones..... they are not fanatics like you who thinks unless you are part of JW you have no love in your heart and amongst your group...

Oga talking with you is very irritating because you keep claiming what only delusional people claim...
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by oteneaaron(m): 7:56pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
LIAR.
Even before you were born, child abuse or sexual immorality is serious, grave sin for which unrepentant individuals have been disfellowship
.
So why don't you report them to the police?

Why is the organization keeping a database of sexual abuse offenders?

Why is the organization paying fines to settle victims of sexual abuse after loosing these cases in the court of law?

Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Courz: 7:58pm On Jul 31, 2022
My turn. grin grin

Why did I leave the JW Cult? It started out as an accumulation of observations of the inner workings of the Cult that never made sense to me from a very young age,particularly from my teens! The start was the Lack of Love amongst JWs.

JWs will boast to you that they have Love amongst themselves. Now, this is solely dependent on the Congregation you find yourself. In a few remote areas I found myself, JWs there tend to be simple and genuine. Just stepping into the Kingdom Hall, you can feel the love. JWs reading this can testify that there are few congregations such as this.
What I found out was congregations located in Major Cities and even certain areas close to towns have some of the most horrible JWs ever! Too much competition, too much scandals, too much gossip, too much backbiting, Tribalism, God forbid bad thing! Throughout my lifetime, I can't count congregations I have been to having these sort of personalities! The congregation I was in my teens was a Rich area type and so there was a lot of competition, backbiting, gossip, competition of whom has been out of the country, whoever was out of the country was usually given a talk part just so that they can show off the fact that they just got back from abroad, who has best cars, etc. I saw the worst of the worst in that Congregation. So much Politics! One family was running that congregation like a Mafia! There is absolutely no way Holy Spirit is in that congregation!

I also noticed a Caste system. Rich JWs don't mix freely with the poor. JWs select who they mingle with. There is a lot of Cliques. If you drive a very nice car or jeep or dress really expensive, you will be noticed quickly and approached the very first time you step into a kingdom hall. The richer you are, the more respect you get. If you are poor or dress poorly, you will be talked to and treated differently. There are congregations where no one will approach you. They can be that lukewarm! The only people that will approach you are Elders simply because it is expected of them.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 7:58pm On Jul 31, 2022
Wilgrea7:
Ah... This is actually a very good point. I didn't even know until I looked it up. They've had quite a number of predictions about when and how the world would end.. Fortunately, it never happens.

Makes you wonder where they keep getting their visions from
.

1 Samuel 3:20 & 16:6, did God's prophet make FALSE prediction?
YES.
Matthew 26:31-35,69-75,& Luke 24:21,25, did the disciples make FALSE predictions?
YES.
Are they FALSE prophet and disciples?
No !
Like Samuel, like disciples , they are Jehovah's witnesses ,2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10 (ASV) chosen to bear God's name, Jehovah.
Are they perfect?
No !
Proverbs 24:16 & 2 Corinthians 13:9-11, "Be readjusted & keep improving"

Wilgrea7:
Another thing that bums me out about JWs in particular, is their "no politics" ideology. They refuse to take part in anything political, including voting.

At first glance, it may seem like a humble thing to do, given the nature of politics in today's world.. But if you examine it closely, it's really not a smart ideology.

Sure, political and governmental systems may be corrupt. But by choosing to remain apathetic, you indirectly give the corruption you hate so much, more opportunity to thrive.

You become powerlessly subject to whatever sick regime you live under. You refuse to partake in decisions that could impact your future, and the future of your children, simply because you believe some 2000-year old hippie palenstinian is supposed to come and do the ruling for you.
Jesus Christ,The one you call "hippie Palestinian" is our Exemplar, with the disciples,Hebrew 13:7,17.
Politics was widespread in the Roman Empire.
Oga,pls tell us which political party they belong to?
Wilgrea7:
There are lots of other issues I have with their belief system, but that's one of the main ones.

Then there's blood transfusion, Excommunication, Perfectly circular reasoning, just to name a few.

I don't hate them as people. I have wonderful friends that are JWs. But their beliefs don't make any logical sense to me.
Jesus instruction (Matt 24:14 & Acts 1:cool didn't
"make any logical sense to" the Jewish political leaders.
Acts 5:29 & 1John 5:3,yet Jehovah's servants MUST OBEY God.
That is the meaning of Mark 12:29-30 as Jesus did @ Hebrew 5:7-8.
Oga,Was obedience sweet for Jesus?
JWs don't worry when Acts 15:20 doesn't "make any logical sense to" you.

Excommunication is in your Bible,1 Corinthians 5:1-13,JWs will OBEY.
If JW dey fornicate with your next door neighbor & come preach to you that same day, you go welcome am & listen to the gospel message?
There's a reason why the Government get prison or quarantine .
Excommunication na quarantine.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:05pm On Jul 31, 2022
advanceDNA:
You are highly delusional....i have never seen heard craziness at this level before....You can't treat others with love and respect but claim you have love..??..you claim you are the only followers of Jesus....
You leaders just tell you other believers all over the world who dont have love ...and they show you some verses claiming that means you are the only one that have love.... and that's it ?? What prrof do you have others dont have love..??
Gosh.!!!
The way muslims think and how they belive its okay to kill their fellow man always beats me ....but now I get..
. it's the same delusional thinking of superiority to others your leaders have passed on to you.. u guys are just bunch of proud people feeling superior..
The only few among you people that respect other people in the body of Christ are the naturally humble ones..... they are not fanatics like you who thinks unless you are part of JW you have no love in your heart and amongst your group...
Oga talking with you is very irritating because you keep claiming what only delusional people claim...
No wahala at least you have FANTASTIC JW FRIENDS shey?
We are OK with that Sir! wink
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 8:11pm On Jul 31, 2022
oteneaaron:
Why is the organization paying fines to settle victims of sexual abuse after loosing these cases in the court of law?
"Pursue peace with ALL men."
Holy Bible instruction.

The cases JWs won in court, did JWs request for fines or compensation?
No.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Courz: 8:13pm On Jul 31, 2022
As you get close to JWs, you will notice many irritating traits and that's because of the nature of the religion. It is a highly hypocritical religion with several unnecessary rules and regulations. Like I said earlier, the richer you are, the more respect you get. I remember when I was new in a congregation, I was treated a certain way. But when the elders came to my house, the treatment changed. I could sense that because of where I lived, they saw that I could be rich. Since then, their approach towards me changed. See what I mean? That's JWs for you. If you're rich and freely give them money when they come asking, you will be surprised at the way Politics in the Congregation will go in your favour. Your sins will even be covered for you. Yes! That's JWs for you. There are many experiences of EXJWs where they saw many Political Cover ups amongst Elders and their children. It happens. Elders in the same cliques cover for one another.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 8:18pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
no problem calling me a liar but someone else might see the truth in it
Read the screenshot.
Also,read the screenshot reply to the guy responding to your previous post.

Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Courz:
If JWs truly have love amongst themselves, the Gossip culture will not be so bad, Backbiting will not happen, there will be no tribalism, there will be unconditional love. When Jesus talked about Love amongst yourselves, he didn't say the love should be conditional. He used the Parable of a Samaritan and a Jew, two people from different religions. He is saying you should display Love not just to members of your religion but to others as well! JWs concentrating on themselves alone is the opposite of what Jesus taught. Once a JW leaves the Cult, the person is considered worse than a Satanist and they show extreme hatred for this person. This means JWs have no respect for people who decide that their beliefs are unsatisfactory! But they forget these people are included when Jesus talked about Love for others! The same way people are free to decide to join their Cult is the same way people should be free to change their minds and leave their Cult. But No, they don't want that.

Unfortunately, their focus on themselves is not real from the heart. Jesus preached about treating people of lesser means with dignity when he said he will judge everyone based on how they treated the least of his brothers and sisters. JWs have failed in this regard. No matter how the JW minions here shout in this forum about Love, JWs don't practise Love at all. The Love is conditional based on you accepting their beliefs and following their Cult, based on your financial status or if you are part of their Cliques. Their so called Love amongst themselves is Fake and Superficial.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Wilgrea7(m): 8:28pm On Jul 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
That's what i'm saying!
Everyone will like to be our friend if you come in contact with us on individual level but when it comes to our worship even though we don't do anything against you in person yet the hatred will come naturally just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:22 smiley
I have muslims as friends too.. catholics... mormons... and so on.. All wonderful people. That doesn't mean I have to subscribe to their beliefs. The people from other religions and sects didn't also do anything against me personally. Stop looking for hate where it doesn't exist.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 8:38pm On Jul 31, 2022
oteneaaron:
So why don't you report them to the police?

Why is the organization keeping a database of sexual abuse offenders?
We comply with the Law to report to the Police.
JW Policy for Protection of Children & numerous articles of Watchtower/Awake! magazines on this topic are accessible to ALL.

The matter is a very sensitive issue which most people or parents of the abused may decline to report or the matter become public knowledge or attract media attention.
(It happens like that, everywhere in every clime.)

In 10 or 20 years time, the abused may seek redress & the true narrative (parental aversion for abuse reporting) is pushed aside because it is not in the interest of the Legal team of the Plaintiff or Prosecutors.

Your 2nd.
To safeguard others from falling prey to abuse, as a precautionary measure.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
Read the screenshot.
Also,read the screenshot reply to the guy responding to your previous post.
Do you think he's interested in the truth?

Brother, he's one of them: those who hate God's people at sight after knowing about our faith. So no matter what happens he has sealed his heart against God's people! smiley
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 8:40pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
Read the screenshot.
Also,read the screenshot reply to the guy responding to your previous post.
sorry i cant read screenshots, my device doesn't support it. U can help by typing it out
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Jul 31, 2022
Wilgrea7:
I have muslims as friends too.. catholics... mormons... and so on.. All wonderful people. That doesn't mean I have to subscribe to their beliefs. The people from other religions and sects didn't also do anything against me personally. Stop looking for hate where it doesn't exist.
Good!
So in a nutshell you're not carried away with whatever they say against your friends shey.
Enjoy yourself jàre! wink
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 8:45pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
sorry i cant read screenshots, my device doesn't support it. U can help by typing it out
Ok.
The screenshots are on this forum, especially in the religion section.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 8:52pm On Jul 31, 2022
Mr Courz, Uhm... Can u say something about the appointment of ELDERS & MS in the jw cong. Is the system fair on that? Or any favouritism? Just hint us pls, let us know.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 8:58pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
REASON #2
Hypocrisy. Jw pretend to love each other & practice pure worship,but once u have close connection with them,u start to see their hypocrisy in different colours. Them sabi lie, them sabi cheat,fornication na dem be number one,etc. But they will outrightly condemn this act in others & pretend to be all good. Once a genuine member is tired of their hypocrisy & walk away,they label him apostate & shun him
There was Judas Iscariot among the disciples, even Paul experience such,2 Cor 11:26.

For this reason,JWs apply 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 & 2 John 1:9-11. Excommunicate & KEEP AWAY from the one going contrary to the holy scriptures.
Did Jesus Christ or any disciple host Judas Iscariot after going contrary to the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 9:00pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
brother run-o,they are coming to attact u 4 saying this! Just watch them coming...
anyway,this thread might be useful to someone out there
You no dey shame sef to LIE on this forum?
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Courz: 9:03pm On Jul 31, 2022
Another reason why JWs don't have love amongst themselves is that their Freemason Watchtower teaches them Hatred for people that leave the Cult. Watchtower tells them to avoid people that leave even Family. The only difference between Islam and JWs is that JWs don't kill Physically. They rather kill emotionally/psychologically and families are destroyed as a result of this. This is why in developed countries, JWs make several visits to Psychiatrists! Many of them found out through Therapy that the JW religion is responsible for their Psychological Trauma
and mental disorders! Why? Because the Cult puts you under severe pressure psychologically when you decide to take it way too seriously. This is why you will see a good number of mentally deranged people in the religion. You will notice a lot of delusional behaviours. They don't see things properly. This is why the JWs making noise in this forum have been consistently exhibiting similar traits. If you understand this, you will understand the way JWs reason. The Cult is responsible for this.

There are cases where JW Parents disown their underage children who decide they no longer want to be members. They sometimes throw them out of their homes! The more Fanatic a JW is, the more wicked they become. The more a JW take every single thing the eight delusional Freemason governing body say, the more he or she is turned to a Robot with absolutely no human feelings!
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 9:07pm On Jul 31, 2022
advanceDNA:
Hold on so you mean that group is you??That's fallacy...or just mere liess...im glad you are graduate and you can read....

when Ephesians 4:5 was written...JW didn't exist....Paul didn't make a prophesy of your organization....

Do you remember john 10:16...even jesus said he has other followers else where..that when his disciples said they rebuked others speaking in the name of Jesus....jesus told not to...

but some how you and your people feel you are the only following Jesus....well done...

I'm not surprised though... from the way you people interprete bible .....anything is possible from JWs end
Until you understand that John 10:16 is about Jehovah's chosen servants (John 9:4. 20:17,Acts3:13 & Isaiah 43:10,21) ,NOT about 3 deities worshippers of Christendom. grin
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 9:12pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
REASON 3
Injustice. The Jw system isn't just. Their leaders play favouritism in their dealings with each member. For instance,their local elders rarely (or mildly) administer discipline to the rich & prominent once in the congregation. But if u r poor (financially), they will keep a watchful eyes on u & discipline u cruely in the name of Jehovah. They have a judicial commitee that sits to judge offenders of their organisation's law, & that is where u see elders lie maliciously,just to defend their position as elders & discipline the poor brainwashed victim who would be expected to write apology letter to them. Mind u,the elders are some old illiterate men who have no formal training on judicial matters.
For your deluded mind shey
I NEVER hear these LIES anywhere else. grin grin

Oga, Na GIBBERISH you type.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 9:17pm On Jul 31, 2022
advanceDNA:
U quoted jesus..."I am way"

Not organization
Not church
Not establishment is the way....
You have your established church doctrines..
Others have theirs... but u want to claim only yours is right....

JW is not the way
Jesus is the way...thank God you at least admit to that
Matthew 12:15-20. Acts 3:13, Isaiah 43:10 (ASV).
Jesus Christ is God's chosen servant number.
John 7:16 & John 15:15, our heavenly Father taught Jesus to be the way.

Oga pls go and confirm.
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Templee333(op): 9:17pm On Jul 31, 2022
Janosky:
Until you understand that John 10:16 is about Jehovah's chosen servants (John 9:4. 20:17,Acts3:13 & Isaiah 43:10,21) ,NOT about 3 deities worshippers of Christendom. grin
scriptures wrongly applied by brother janosky. Looking foward to ur next performance
Re: Maxindhouse,janosky & Other Jehovah's Witnesses, Come In Here: by Janosky: 9:21pm On Jul 31, 2022
Templee333:
REASON #4
Scripture abuse. The jw misinterprete the Bible. They are good & reading and interpreting the bible frm cover to cover. But their explanations have serious blunders. The Jws dont notice this because they claim to have monopoly of the truth. They claim to base all their teachings & doctrines in the bible,but in reality, they bend the bible to suit their teachings. There's just nothing biblical abt them, they only make claims. A good example is Maxindhouse & janosky who have been quoting bible out of context allover the religious section. If u doubt me,watch them here. Ask them to tell u where the bible tell them to report hours of field service every month & you will see them swaying.
3 deities worshipper dey form James Bond.
I challenge you to use my posts or Brother Max posts to Present just one proof.

grin
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