REASON #12
Broken families/homes/marriages. This is something dat is so annoying abt them. They go around claiming competency in fixing people family problem. How daring! Their individual home is hell. Abuses,violence,conflict are all part of Jw family issues. Yet this hypocrites will come to ur house with a brochure entitled "how to make ur family happy". How can u make another family happy while urs is on fire? Most Jw elders abuse their wife & children. Jw women pretend to be gentle in the kingdom hall but real tigers at home. Children growing in such home often notice this hypocrisy & rebel against the organisation when they grow up. You can call me a liar but i've made my point 4 whoever it concerns

Templee333:

@Wilgrea7, u r honoured with the opportunity of studying the bible with an almighty theologian/bible scholar named MaxInDHouse. I wish u goodluck in ur bible study program.

Obviously you've noticed the competency in the way JWs handle scriptural topics so you're here to discourage people from considering faith with seriousness. That's why you have to call a human like you "ALMIGHTY" just to show that you're not interested in knowing the truth about God's Kingdom.
No wahala go and worship wherever you please nobody is forcing JWs on your head!

MaxInDHouse:


Obviously you've noticed the competency in the way JWs handle scriptural topics so you're here to discourage people from considering faith with seriousness. That's why you have to call a human like you "ALMIGHTY" just to show that you're not interested in knowing the truth about God's Kingdom.
No wahala go and worship wherever you please nobody is forcing JWs on your head!

why do u like to be so troublesome? Did i say anything bad in my post? I thought i was recomending u to someone. Why the attack then?

Templee333:

why do u like to be so troublesome? Did i say anything bad in my post? I thought i was recomending u to someone. Why the attack then?

Upon all the lies you're stylishly shipping in against God's organization, your own religion dey undercover!
So why can't you also recommend any of your friends? Aren't they sound enough to teach people about God?
I never invited him for Bible study rather to come and ask his question if truthfully he's sincere like Nicodemus who went one on one to ask Jesus questions.
He's an atheist and he has seen exactly what you saw that's why he's interested in asking me questions about the lies you've been spreading about God's organization!

MaxInDHouse:

Upon all the lies you're stylishly shipping in against God's organization, your own religion dey undercover!
So why can't you also recommend any of your friends? Aren't they sound enough to teach people about God?
I never invited him for Bible study rather to come and ask his question if truthfully he's sincere like Nicodemus who went one on one to ask Jesus questions.
He's an atheist and he has seen exactly what you saw that's why he's interested in asking me questions about the lies you've been spreading about God's organization!

when i am for peace, u r 4 war. Yet u r the most peaceful in this threat. Ok-o. Now i agree that jw is the only true religion. No one else knws God except Jw people. They alone practise the Bible & love one another. So MaxInDHouse can we be friends now?

Templee333:

when i am for peace, u r 4 war. Yet u r the most peaceful in this threat. Ok-o. Now i agree that jw is the only true religion. No one else knws God except Jw people. They alone practise the Bible & love one another. So MaxInDHouse can we be friends now?

You missed one vital point.
JWs are the most intelligent worshipers on this planet!

Let me enlighten you:
You and i met on this forum and you hate what i cherish so much (God's organization) therefore you can only be my neighbour not my friend because we share nothing in common. We are neither related through blood, business nor faith so you're my neighbour not my friend!

There are many JWs out there who share the same line of thought with me so they're my brothers due to faith but not my friend because we only love the same organization whereas we haven't discussed one on one.

Even within the congregation where all of us are Jehovah's Witnesses that we often see one another on weekly basis due to meetings it's not everyone that's my friend but they're all my brothers in Christ.

So i love all my neighbours (people living on this planet no matter where they come from) you are one of them! Mark 12:31

I also love all my brothers (JWs throughout the world) John 13:34-35

But i have friends among those with whom i share the same line of thought because we know one another inside out! John 15:15

So you're my neighbour as a living human, my brother if you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses and my friend if we know each other inside out!

Ok. Now i admit that Jw are the most intelligent worshipers on this planet. Are u ok now?

Templee333:

Ok. Now i admit that Jw are the most intelligent worshipers on this planet. Are u ok now?

Thank you!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Look at how he is being a fool!

MaxInDHouse:

Thank you!

ok. Now i hope it woudn't turn into a fight if i ask u a question that bothers me?

Templee333:

ok. Now i hope it woudn't turn into a fight if i ask u a question that bothers me?

Sincerity is the key not ambiguity.
Remember i too wasn't born a JW so try to be sincere because it will show that you're not bias!

There's this Jw member who had a land issue with his non-witness relative.The land was their family heritage. The Jw dragged the issue to court & spent millions of naira. Now if the Jw really REALY believes that this Satan system is ending VERY SOON & his non witness relative will perish at Armagedon,while he(the JW) will inherit THE WHOLE LAND,shouldn't he leave the land to his relative & rather use the money he spent in the court to help other poor brothers in his congregation? What would "the most intelligent worshipper" do in such a situation?

Templee333:
There's this Jw member who had a land issue with his non-witness relative.The land was their family heritage. The Jw dragged the issue to court & spent millions of naira. Now if the Jw really REALY believes that this Satan system is ending VERY SOON & his non witness relative will perish at Armagedon,while he(the JW) will inherit THE WHOLE LAND,shouldn't he leave the land to his relative & rather use the money he spent in the court to help other poor brothers in his congregation? What would "the most intelligent worshipper" do in such a situation?

Jesus taught all his followers not to store their treasures here on earth but in heaven {Matthew 6:19-21} yet Judas Iscariot sold Jesus as in JESUS for money.
Do you still think Jesus is the most wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} ever on this planet as one of his closest confidants sold him out?

Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

zealander10:
Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

Thanks for this, the problem is that this people come on line to tell lies about God's organization so even though one choose to ignore they will tag you knowing that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
As for me i don't get personal with anyone, i was a Muslim before i found God's organization so i take things cool with everyone no matter what they say.
It's what i found that matters to me not what they say! 1Peter 3:15

However thanks my brother!

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for this, the problem is that this people come on line to tell lies about God's organization so even though one choose to ignore they will tag you knowing that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
As for me i don't get personal with anyone, i was a Muslim before i found God's organization so i take things cool with everyone no matter what they say.
It's what i found that matters to me not what they say! 1Peter 3:15

However thanks my brother!

You’d be glad to know that Jesus never spent his time and energy defending himself before opposers. He simply said wisdom is justified by its works and went on his way. Matthew 11:16-19

Unfortunately, we cannot do much about the propaganda spread about us now. Even the Jews spread propaganda about Jesus and Paul. Acts chapters 21-24 is filled with such accounts and surely, some were led astray. Jesus also acknowledged that even though the seed of truth might be planted in one’s heart, the wicked one i.e. Satan can steal it away from that person. Matthew 13:19

So let our aim be to focus on the ones the Bible describes as being “rightly disposed for everlasting life”, that is, our present Bible studies. Acts 13:48

@Zealander10 welcome my brother. How r u?

zealander10:

You’d be glad to know that Jesus never spent his time and energy defending himself before opposers. He simply said wisdom is justified by its works and went on his way. Matthew 11:16-19
Unfortunately, we cannot do much about the propaganda spread about us now. Even the Jews spread propaganda about Jesus and Paul. Acts chapters 21-24 is filled with such accounts and surely, some were led astray. Jesus also acknowledged that even though the seed of truth might be planted in one’s heart, the wicked one i.e. Satan can steal it away from that person. Matthew 13:19
So let our aim be to focus on the ones the Bible describes as being “rightly disposed for everlasting life”, that is, our present Bible studies. Acts 13:48

Shalom!

You are wasting your time. You think they will listen to you? How many of your fellow members have advised them to desist from engaging with people in this forum? Did they listen to them? They are ashamed of how JWs are being rubbished in the mud! Watchtower says Shut up else you bring reproach on Jehovah's name. Did you even know what they actually meant by that? Shut up before you go disgracing us since what we teach you are Lies. Watchtower is not confident of what they teach you. You can't defend lies without looking stupid. And that's exactly how the JWs in this forum have been looking for years! Stupid! Well, since they have been engaging with people in this forum on all sorts of arguments, one thing is sure. People have been able to see that JWs are Chronic Liars!

MaxInDHouse:


Shalom!

shalom? What shalom? This topic is to enlighten u guys on why some people walk away from ur Jw. But u r here talking abt focusing on ur present bible studies. When u finanly win them into ur jw org won't they come face to face with the facts have listed here. They need to be prepared b4 they start taking that path that many have taken before & quit after waking up

Templee333:

shalom? What shalom? This topic is to enlighten u guys on why some people walk away from ur Jw. But u r here talking abt focusing on ur present bible studies. When u finanly win them into ur jw org won't they come face to face with the facts have listed here. They need to be prepared b4 they start taking that path that many have taken before & quit after waking up

I passed through all of that yet here i am today one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
According to Jesus the truth will land on different kinds of soil (hearts) and each hearer will have to determine on what category his/her heart will fall! Matthew 13:3-9

So there's no need to take it PERSONAL the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} they will never be happy until they're with the flock!

Don't worry yourself if i Maximus after my journey can find the truth, other prospective sheep will also find it no matter what! Matthew 7:13-14

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Mr. Maximus how are u sure that u will not wake up one day & walk away from this ur most cherished "truth"?

Templee333:

Mr. Maximus how are u sure that u will not wake up one day & walk away from this ur most cherished "truth"?

Just like other sheep i am 100% sure that there is no other truth elsewhere apart from Jehovah's Witnesses organization!

Reason!

Each lost sheep will always as in ALWAYS ask for the BETTER PERFORMING group than the one he is presently because that's our goal, and for the past 30 years that i've been in this journey there has never been any story teller or critic that has thought or mentioned or present or talked or point to a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN the WATCHTOWER!

So do you see why it's impossible to think that Maximus will leave God's organization?

Shalom!

MaxInDHouse:

Just like other sheep i am 100% sure that there is no other truth elsewhere apart from Jehovah's Witnesses organization!

Reason!

Each lost sheep will always as in ALWAYS ask for the BETTER PERFORMING group than the one he is presently because that's our goal, and for the past 30 years that i've been in this journey there has never been any story teller or critic that has thought or mentioned or present or talked or point to a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN the WATCHTOWER!

So do you see why it's impossible to think that Maximus will leave God's organization?

Shalom!

but some who were just 100% sure like u (including GB member,bethelites,CO,pioneers) at some point later left the org. Why?

Templee333:

but some who were just 100% sure like u (including GB member,bethelites,CO,pioneers) at some point later left the org. Why?

Please what is the name of the organization they later joined?

Well a true sheep is only interested in the ORGANIZATION, so no matter what happens the organization comes first that's why real sheep don't take anything PERSONAL because we are still searching for the ORGANIZATION that's performing better than WATCHTOWER, just present it and leave the rest to us!

MaxInDHouse:


Please what is the name of the organization they later joined?

Well a true sheep is only interested in the ORGANIZATION, so no matter what happens the organization comes first that's why real sheep don't take anything PERSONAL because we are still searching for the ORGANIZATION that's performing better than WATCHTOWER, just present it and leave the rest to us!

seems u didn't get me,my questn was why did t they leave when they were once 100% sure just like u?

Templee333:

seems u didn't get me,my questn was why did t they leave when they were once 100% sure just like u?

NO! They were never 100% sure!
Those who are 100% sure believe that God's organization must be just one not two so if it's not WATCHTOWER then it must be another.
Have you heard of a better performing group than Jehovah's ORGANIZATION?

If u keep talking abt a better performing group i'd say that DANGOTE GROUP OF COMPANIES & WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION has performed far far far better than WATCHTOWER BIBLE AN TRACT SOCIETY. BTW, What has ur organization accomplished so far?

Templee333:

What has ur organization accomplished so far?

God's will!

They have gathered millions of people from all the races throughout the world and ERASED POLITICS, RACISM and MILITARY SERVICES in their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Courz:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Look at how he is being a fool!

Hope he won't come and threaten you this time around
Broke-Lyn Publishing company parading as TruWorship

zealander10:
Hello MaxInDHouse and Janosky, I couldn’t get past the first page because the air of toxicity is too much. I’d suggest that you two stop engaging in online debates with opposers because it’s counterproductive and I’m sure it doesn’t leave you spiritually edified. Moreso, it brings reproach upon Jehovah and his beautiful organization. 1Corinthians 4:9 says that we are a theatrical spectacle and as such, cannot be found slinging mud at people who want to play dirty. We’re too clean and elevated for that. Titus 1:15 says, “All things are clean to clean people, but to those who are defiled and faithless, NOTHING is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled..”
So why should we be bothered about how the truth is perceived by some ?

I know you're writing this with sincerity
But I don't think if you've passed through what I've experienced, I've been and known the org for long, I was born into it, it was part of me.
But as 2020 came, I started seeing things that were strange and foreign to the very tenets of true Christianity in the org............
Since this is a faceless forum I will do nothing but to be "honest as possible" concerning my experience and findings during my journey of discovery
Once again thanks for the comment, but you know what? There's a saying that says: "If you see something, say something"
So I want stop talking if any of this blokes bring up their JW stuff here

MaxInDHouse:


God's will!

They have gathered millions of people from all the races throughout the world and ERASED POLITICS, RACISM and MILITARY SERVICES in their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

What God's will? Ur god's will are only accomplished in books & magazines,not real life. And,for ur information,Jw's that I Knw are guilty of the 3 things u mentioned above.