₦airaland Forum

T9ksy:
Who are these "we", you keep mentioning? You definitely must be an imposter if you can say, you don't know of Yoruba Nation.

Sooner or later this unholy amalgam will eventually disintegrate whether your ilks like/want it or not.

I have got no time for divisive people.
Break up Nigeria now before Nigeria happens to you.

Oh BTW, am Yoruba - quintessential "Omoluabi" - not a Nigerian. Don't even know how to be a Nigerian nor do I care to be one.

Wallade:
We are not concerned about people who are not Nigerian, since you don't know how to be Nigerian.

I am also discussing with Nigerians not non-nigerians like you.

I have got no time for divisive people.

Dsalvo:
The SW Governors are not advocating for the separation of Nigeria.

Neither am I because smart Yorubas know better than to agitate for something that may be a fruitless waste of time and years or even decades.

survivor10:
Anybody wey vote APC is a fool.Simple at that.
Look at the country, you foolish APC supporters

Suffer never tire you?

T9ksy:
But why would s/w governors commit political suicide by advocating for yotuba nation? Even biafrans that have clocked more mileage( in their struggle for nationhood) than Yoruba nations agitators, their governors remind mute,deaf & blind to the injustice being perpetuated in their homeland by fulanis' govt. At times, they even aid the fulanis in decimating their own people with the hope that the fulanis will patronise them with higher political posts.


None of those ydiots gives a rats' arse about you & i. Their main concerns is how to fill their deep pockets with our collective wealth.

Just take a look at how fulanis are killing us in s/w yet the ydiots that we thought are representing our interests are too afraid to say anything against their fulani masters.

Does tinubu cares about his fellow yoruba people killed in Ondo lately and Igangan, last year? As far as he's concerned, we are just collateral damages so long as his fulani masters finally present him with keys to arsehole rock. He certainly doesn't care if fulani herdsmen wiped out the whole of yorubaland so long , he gets to be presydiot of Nigeria.

Not trying to cause umbrage here but You're not smart at all if you really believe that those fighting for freedom from the chains, the fulanis have placed on our necks are fools. In that case, why bother fighting the brits for independence? It obvious , we will be better off as their colony (british) than be under the jack boots of these barbarians from the sahel.

With the rate of killings , these vagabonds are indulging in, all over the country, how long do you yhink it will take before they eventually turn the whole of southern Nigeria to be like hausaland ?

Dsalvo:
What on earth are you talking about? Mumu. You're the one with a comprehesion deficit and a silly, uncouth and worthless agbero to boot.

The SW Governors are not advocating for the separation of Nigeria.

Neither am I because smart Yorubas know better than to agitate for something that may be a fruitless waste of time and years or even decades.

Go and ask Igbo and their Biafra market they have pursued fruitlessly for decades to include fighting and losing a war over.

macof:
No, its wrong to say it is a waste of time.
Nothing is a waste of time if enough people push for it.

This is the same stupidd mentality of "this man will make a good president but he can't win, so I won't waste my vote" when people in their millions carry this mentality how can good people be voted in?
Do you support something simply because you think it's easy to achieve or because if achieved it will be best for everyone?

But any way, the movement to break up this British tax collecting and resources extracting enterprise called Nigeria is gaining ground with or without you.
There are sensible people who know what is good for their children and children's children

There are people who can see that Nigeria is falling, in a few years it will be like Afghanistan, run over by bandits and terrorists.. Now is the time for Yoruba to get out

Does the Nigerian Constitution allow secession?


In-Brief
Under the Nigerian Constitution, no part of Nigeria has the power to form its own independent government or secede from the country. In fact, the word 'secede' does not appear in the Constitution.

Dig Deeper
The nearest answer to this is found in Article 2 of the constitution, which states that Nigeria is one indivisible and indissoluble sovereign state to be known by the name of the 'Federal Republic of Nigeria'. This means the only way to legally grant such an option is through an amendment to the law.

While there have been calls for a referendum, the constitution of Nigeria only addresses two scenarios where a referendum is recognised – state boundary adjustment and the recall of a member of the National Assembly.

Wallade:
You no get sense at all. Whoever employed you to do these e-campaign and internet attack and harassment on the South West has failed and you are going to further destroy their chances.

What is wrong with you? Castigating and antagonizing the South West will only get you failure. Ode!

You igbos are so terrible at playing politics.

Dsalvo:
I wrote "may be a fruitless waste of time". The "may be" qualifier is contingent on people like you all talk yet expecting others to act for you.

If you believe in something then chase it. Don't wait for other men to chase it for you to then be your Kanu.

Where we differ is that I commit to what I believe in and go beyond words. I believe in a fundamental change in the structure of Nigeria and then on to regionalism or something similar and along the lines of devolving more powers to States and region of Nigeria.

To that end I am working at a political career to put my money where my mouth and thinking is.

One thing I find common with you agitators for seccession is that your approach is cowardly and childish .

You are usually all angry and demanding action, evening insulting those with opposing views, but all of you are only able to talk as if others must act for you.

If not, pick up guns and organise a crew to fight the government as Kanu did. Let's see how you fare. As simple as that.

When we tell you secession is against our constitution, meaning it can never be delivered without serious bloodshed or a people's revolution everyone must sacrifically sign-up for, you guys continue to act like toddlers to still insist on it.

Go and carry a gun and fight then. Those who have political and legislative power have shown what they believe in. Back them or put in the effort to gain Oduduwa. Go and replace Igboho or shut up.

Those of us who are proper grown ups, and not fantasist and unrealistic daydreamers like those insisting they want snow in the hottest part of Northern Nigeria, will push ahead with actions, not mere words, to deliver what we want as SW Governors unanimously and unitedly did below.

T9ksy:
OK o, Mr. One(Fake)Nigerian....Nigeria will soon happen to you. Everybody go eat breakfast eventually in Nigeria. Its inevitable especially if we persist on this trajectory

Thinkam:
For the entire period of buhari's regime, no region has supported the ills and failures of his administration than the southwest..

So those expecting the SW not to overwhelmingly support Tinubu are dreaming, the fact they could support the glaring failure of an outsider.

You can imagine the manner of support Tinubu's definite failure will get, should he win the election.

Bottom line no hope for the ordinary Nigerian

apache22b:
I see some Obidient urchins being dismayed and masturbating with the viral song Emilokan, to set the record straight. All Peter Obi supporters will be disappointed come February 2023 election because Tinubu must be the next President of this Country.

All Nigerian youths i implore everyone to come out and vote massively for Tinubu. He's been ordained by god already to take us to the promise land, Peter Obi is a failure and will continue to fail.

Falseprophet1 confirmed it already

Youths let us all say No to Peter Obi and their imaginary Obidient's. Enough is Enough

apache22b:
I see some Obidient urchins being dismayed and masturbating with the viral song Emilokan, to set the record straight. All Peter Obi supporters will be disappointed come February 2023 election because Tinubu must be the next President of this Country.

All Nigerian youths i implore everyone to come out and vote massively for Tinubu. He's been ordained by god already to take us to the promise land, Peter Obi is a failure and will continue to fail.

Falseprophet1 confirmed it already

Youths let us all say No to Peter Obi and their imaginary Obidient's. Enough is Enough

Mikolo70:
Go siddon this idiat... Omo ale Yoruba calling himself Omoluabi... Ayelala kee you dia.. Eleribu!

macof:
There is no provision for regionalism you are talking about in the constitution you worship.
The same way you are trying to get regionalism is the same way people are trying to get independence. This notion of trying to present yourself as more noble is ridiculous.. You are every bit a rebel to that constitution by talking about regionalism

And let me tell you since you aren't smart enough to realise it... Those you insult for pushing for ethnic sovereignty are doing more to even help you achieve regionalism. you've been shouting return to regionalism since the first military regime, how far?
Very useless people shouting the same thing for decades almost 60 years with no single step forward.

"carry gun and fight" that's the only way your small brain understands independence struggle. I guess the NNDP and NYM that started the struggle for Nigeria's independence from the British empire used guns??
If you think the only way to attain self government is through guns or worse openly talking about it, then you aren't wise.

Lmao, what actions are you doing to get your regionalism? Where are you on the streets? Where are your rallies? Where are your organisations? What parties have regionalism as part of their manifesto? Where are you in the house of assemblies or national assembly pushing bills? Where are you active anywhere? Proposal is not action. We need to see action for once, you've had a long time.


In terms of action you are far behind those pushing for sovereignty. You have no structure and no support of the people anymore, all noise since 1966. Look at the call for Yoruba sovereignty that just picked up and how far it has come in a few years.

T9ksy:
You sure sound like a staunch member of Tinubu Media Crew hence the thing touch you to ur bone marrows.

Pele o, omo oko ton fi owo osi ju we ile baba re.

Word of advice: Nigeria has never been One, its not One now (6 decades post-independence ) and unfortunately, it will never be One fin a million years of Sundays!

Dsalvo:
Garbage from start to finish. Is secession outlawed by the Nigerian constitution? Simple yes or no.

Regionalism, which protects the national and geographical integrity of Nigeria as a sovereign nation, is a far easier and more achievable sell. Mumu.

We have had regional governance in the past so not an entirely new development yet no balkanisation of Nigeria, forbidden outrgihtly by our constitution, has happened so far and is unlikely to ever happen.

When I see people agitating uncompromisingly for secession, as you are doing, I only see losers in life who do not understand that (1) there's more than one way to skin a Cat and (2) more productive to work smarter than harder.

Ask yourself how many decades have Igbos agitated for Biafra and what has been the personal cost to them.

Whereas no government can kill the legal idea, if stakeholders key into it, and this is ultra-important, of a people dedicating themselves to building successful Iives and productive societies from their regional bases.

You can legitimately agitate for devolution of power away from the centre towards States and regions of Nigeria.

The concession the Buhari-led FG granted for the formation of Amotekun, after SW States unitedly agitated for it, is proof of this.

Whereas there is no forward path agitating for secession that is exclusively outlawed by the Nigerian constitution and the reason Nigeria engaged in a brutal civil war, in the past, that led to the loss of millions of lives.

Grow up and stop deceiving yourself because the way I see it my 12 year old kid is a better solutions provider and pragmatic thinker than you are.

macof:
Regionalism is seemingly easier, sure that's the only reason you are pushing for it and insulting those for sovereignty. We have established that already little man no need to repeat what I've already said. You have no ideological basis for your attack on the call for sovereignty... Your entire deal is "regionalism is easier and won't stress me"
Making you the coward

Yet, again as we have established, despite regionalism being seemingly easier, you have still not achieved anything


Your second argument is "we have had regionalism in the past" same past that the powers that be made sure to reject a return to?
Where were you when Murtala, Babangida and Adbulsalam organised conferences and committees.. Did they not shut you and your regionalism up?
Where have you been since 1999? Where are your bills? What happened to you in 2014 nation confab?
Were you not ignored like a riffraff

Btw, we have also had Yoruba sovereignty before Nigeria. Yoruba people were our own people who controlled our own destiny. So this argument of "we had regionalism before" Ehen and so what? Let me see you get it and I will congratulate you and we will all enjoy the regionalism as long as it lasts (because we all know it will not last even if it happens, the last one did not last)

This guy you are a clown You are asking me now to ask igbos what agitation for biafra has cost them? But you were the one telling me to go the way of biafra in a previous post, didn't you just say I should be like Nnamdi Kanu
So you were telling me to be like Kanu so that the same costs will befall Yorubas? You just show that you don't mean well for anyone but your selfish self.
I wouldn't wish for anything bad on you but look at the hate in your mind for others simply because they call for sovereignty of their ancestral land. Ahan how more wicked can you be? I thought I am a loser just making noise why feel so bothered about losers?

Your small brain doesn't know there are many ways to achieve self government but it all starts with awareness, mobilisation and setting an ideological foundation which Yoruba nation is doing so well and the next stages will follow. And you know it that's why you are so bothered. I dare you if you know that we are losers wasting our time, I dare you to ignore us the way you have been ignored since 1966
Everyone has ignored your sorry ass for decades.

You can also legitimately agigate for self determination. It is a right enshrined in the United nations charter of which Nigeria is a signatory.
Neither you nor I should be prosecuted for either regionalism or sovereignty...
There is no legal superiority to the call for regionalism over the call for sovereignty, it only depends on enough support and action.
let us both agigate our own and we will see who will achieve their goal. I dare you

As I have said, the idea of Yoruba sovereignty has even done more for regionalism than even those shouting return to regionalism. Amotekun is one of such actions, its called marginal gains, its a gradual process.
Yoruba security in the hands of yorubas is part of the idea for Yoruba Sovereignty.. Not return to regionalism.

You are talking about return to regionalism where the federal government of Nigeria still controls your security and can call state of emergency on you like in 1962 anytime they feel like. Or you want another operation wetie. You want another era of sectional parties and gang up on yorubas?

Look around, pay attention, the people are saying something else, and what they are saying is "Yoruba nation"

Dsalvo:
You're a joker. Let us see how things will go. I leave you with the case of the naive Igboho.

Go and read the thread below, starting from the last page, to note clowns like you who insulted others, when they naively viewed Igboho the messiah, fled the thread completely after Igboho was arrested and humbled.

Where are those usernames deifying Igboho on the thread below and insulting fellow Yorubas who wisely advocated Yorubas keep all options on the table?

This is why the traditionally wise Yorubas , minus a few misguided elements like you and the insultive clowns on the thread below, will never follow a Kanu-like figure who may be charismatic but ultimately gullible and lacking pragmatic sense.

https://www.nairaland.com/6531715/im-yoruba-tinubu-isnt-leader/7

macof:
You are not a very vigilant and active yoruba man if you think Igboho is the leader of the Yoruba sovereignty movement.
You don't know anything

Please tag me when you have your return to regionalism bill ready to pass in the national assembly

Dsalvo:
Stop the idiocy. Igboho bravely moved beyond words yet he still achieved nothing.

What do you want those who talk alone, you have now crowned your Oduduwa actualization champions, to achieve with their impotent organisations and empty rhetoric?

Quote all the grey areas you want but the same conditions that made many nations of the world to side with the laws of the sovereign nation called Nigeria, against the illegal declaration of Biafra by Ojukwu decades ago, prevail today and will frustrate any attempt at secession Minus a constitutional change ratifying such.

macof:
He achieved awareness

Go and do it if its easy... Easy man looking for easy things

Go and rectify the constitution for a return to regionalism like me see
Clown you make me laugh

Dsalvo:
Lol. Check out this joker. Is regionalism, that has been a form of Nigerian governance in the past, outlawed in our constitution as secession is exclusively?

Why was regional governance legal in the past whereas secession has never been allowed and was even shot down when Awolowo moved for a secession clause to be adopted in our constitution? Childish olodo.

Nowhere in the constitution is an Amotekun-type security force outlawed in our constitution either and Yoruba Governors cleverly worked together to achieve it.

Same way commonsense tells us they can work smarter to achieve concessions that will move us closer to State and regional autonomy than agitate stupidly for outright secession that gets the back of others up and will be easily defeated, every single time, with a simple citation of relevant sections of the Nigerian constitution.

Your mumuism has no part 2 bro. For that I really pity you.

Thinkam:
For the entire period of buhari's regime, no region has supported the ills and failures of his administration than the southwest..

So those expecting the SW not to overwhelmingly support Tinubu are dreaming, the fact they could support the glaring failure of an outsider.

You can imagine the manner of support Tinubu's definite failure will get, should he win the election.

Bottom line no hope for the ordinary Nigerian

sanusideunifier:
You mean the most educated tribe in Nigeria will vote this?