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Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Mrquote: 4:34pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Why doesn't the Bible tell us exactly when the Great Tribulation shall begin?
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Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by God1000(m): 4:36pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
After one dies |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Maynman: 4:38pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Bwahahahah chrestians oooo 2 Likes |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 4:44pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mrquote:Why should it? |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:To prove its authencity of course,lol. All generations have believed that they were the final generation before the return of Jesus. They, also, have all been wrong. Time is often repetitive like a spiral, rather than being linear. So what this means is that we are all going to face wars, rumors of wars, and unspeakable evil.So what Mama?lol |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 5:00pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mufakirnaqdiun:1. To prove it's authenticity? Authenticity of what exactly? 2. Jesus Christ said no man knows when. So anyone believing it is in his generation it all ends is foolish for believing such. 3. Are you certain it is time that is repetitive or your perception of time that is instead repetitive? |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Superstitious believe 1 Like |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:1)Are the Bible translations we have today an accurate representation of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts written down centuries ago? For the most part, yes, although with ancient language, there is always some uncertainty in translation. Does the Bible accurately dictate events that actually happened? There is little evidence to support this, and plenty to indicate this is not the case. 2)You are saying the same thing as myself(indirectly),you prolly missed that. Jesus/the Bible couldn't give the exact date for the great tribulation cos it's fictitious. Now coming to your response to that guy "why should they bible give us an exact date"? It should cos the fact that it didn't shows that the Bible prophecy is mere prediction. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 5:41pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mufakirnaqdiun:1. Why do any of those require authentication of any kind, even of the kind you suggest? 2. We are not saying the same thing at all. Jesus Christ, the one who announced there would be a great tribulation after which the end arrives, also announced that no one knows when it will be meaning those who chase after it do so in vain. So, does who believe it will all end in their lifetime are simply foolish for believing so. 3. What the heck? A prophesy is a prediction? That makes no sense. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 6:01pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:1)Anyone who reads the Bible with a halfway critical eye can see for himself that it’s composed of equal parts of myths stolen from previous cultures, old-wive’s tales, desert tribal law, and theological rants based on desert tribal prejudices. If an all-knowing, all-seeing, compassionate deity had constructed it, you’d think he’d have been able to do much better than that.So tell me why should this not require authentication? 2)The fact that Jesus couldn't give an exact date for the great tribulation shows that the Bible is fictitious in nature. Every generation has it nutbars who claim that the end times are now. They are always full of crap and no one should take them seriously. Jehovah’s Witnesses have had several end times predicted and have repeatedly had to backtrack. 3)A prophecy is nothing more than a prediction. Predictions are real, in that, anyone can actually make a prediction. Asserting something will happen is a REAL assertion. But the fulfillment of that assertion, in terms of “prophecy” is NOT real. Any correct assertion is just happenstance or twisting what happened to “fit” into a re-interpretation of the prediction. It’s b.s.every time. Especially when it involves religious prophecy. 1 Like |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mufakirnaqdiun:1. This topic isn't about your ideas about the Bible. I suggest you pay attention. The OP asked why the date of the great tribulation is not mentioned in the bible. It makes no sense to assume the mention of such a date in scripture would provide even you the sort of authentication you seek. 2. Well, if that is the conclusion you choose for yourself, no one is going to hold it against you. 3. Ok |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:1) yeah,of course it would go a long way. 2)You can if you want, except you can't refute my statement. 3)Okay. 1 Like |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 6:19pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mufakirnaqdiun: |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Nobody: 6:19pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Are you good? 1 Like |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
God1000:That's not what Jesus Christ said. It will take place only probably not in our lifetime given that it is linked to the great judgement which will happen after the millennial reign as is written. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by xproducer: 6:37pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mrquote: +++ "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." - Acts 1:7 "Lord, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me." - Psalms 131:1 "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." - Amos 3:7 |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by oaroloye(m): 6:26am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Mrquote: THAT IS BECAUSE THE ONSET OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION DEPENDS UPON DELAYS THAT ARE ENTIRELY OUR FAULT. . MATTHEW 24:14. 14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a Witness unto all Nations; and then shall The End come." . MATTHEW 24:35. 35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my Words shall not pass away." . MATTHEW 28:16-20. 16. Then the Eleven Disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18. And Jesus came and Spake unto them, Saying, "All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth. 19. "Go ye therefore, and Teach all Nations, baptizing them in The Name of the Father, and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost: 20. "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have Commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto The End of The World." Amen. PAUL CLAIMED THAT HE HAD BEEN GIVEN A NEW WORD, AFTER HE HAD KILLED EVERYONE WILLING TO PREACH THE ORIGINAL WORD OF LORD YESHUA, THAT REPLACED ALL OTHER VERSIONS PF THE GOSPEL.[/i] What senses do you lack, that you cannot perceive that Paul was lying? How can it make sense to you, that Lord Yeshua would bring a Gospel that will still be valid after Heaven and Earth are passed away- that has to be preached in all the World, before THE END can come- ONLY TO REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER GOSPEL- DELIVERED BY A PERSON WHO FAILED EVERY TEST, AND KILLED BRETHREN? Kobojunkie: SO THAT WE CAN DEFER REPENTANCE UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE, OF COURSE. . LUKE 12:35-48. 34. "For where your Treasure is, there will your heart be also. 35. "Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36. "And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37. "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I Say unto you, 'THAT HE SHALL GIRD HIMSELF, AND MAKE THEM SIT DOWN TO MEAT, AND WILL COME FORTH AND SERVE THEM.' 38. "And if he shall come in the Second Watch, or come in the Third Watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39. "And this know, 'THAT IF THE GOODMAN OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN WHAT HOUR THE THIEF WOULD COME HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED, AND NOT SUFFERED HIS HOUSE TO BE BROKEN THROUGH.' 40. "Be ye therefore ready also: for The Son of Man cometh at an hour when ye think not." 41. Then Peter said unto him, "Lord, Speakest thou this Parable unto us, or even to all?" 42. And the Lord Said, "Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43. "Blessed is that Servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44. Of a Truth I Say unto you, 'THAT HE WILL MAKE HIM RULER OVER ALL THAT HE HATH.' 45. "But and if that servant say in his heart, 'MY LORD DELAYETH HIS COMING;' and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46. "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47. "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48. "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." GOD IS LIKE: "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU- FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME! He trusted Mankind in The Garden of Eden: He's not going to fall for that one again. If we want His trust, we must earn It. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS THAT THE DISCIPLES SPREAD THE GOSPEL THOUGH OUT THE WHOLE WORLD, SO THAT LORD YESHUA WOULD RETURN IN A GENERATION That didn't happen because: . LUKE 9:57-62. 57. And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, "Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest." 58. And Jesus Said unto him, "Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man hath not where to lay his head." 59. And he said unto another, "Follow me." But he said, "Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father." 60. Jesus Said unto him, "Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach The Kingdom of God." 61. And another also said, "Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house." 62. And Jesus Said unto him, "No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for The Kingdom of God." TURNING BACK IS NOT A GOOD WAY FOR ENTERING INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. The Disciples all knew this, when they pulled this: . MARK 14:27-31. 27. And Jesus Saith unto them, "All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, 'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP WILL BE SCATTERED.' 28. "But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee." 29. But Peter said unto him, "Although all shall be offended, yet will not I." 30. And Jesus Saith unto him, "Verily I Say unto thee, 'THAT THIS DAY, EVEN IN THIS NIGHT, BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE, THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.' 31. But he spake the more vehemently, "If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise." Likewise also said they all.[/color] ACCORDING TO CEPHAS' LATER JUDGMENT, WHAT HE AND ALL THE DISCIPLES DID WAS "LYING UNTO GOD." They all rejected Lord Yeshua as Prophet that night. . MARK 14:50. 50. And they all forook him, and fled. REMEMBER: LLORD YESHUA IS THE THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. They were not just fleeing from a man- they we're fleeing from what he represented. THEREFORE, WHEN LORD YESHUA ENTRUSTED THEM WITH THE GOSPEL, THEY DELIBERATELY BETRAYED HIS TRUST. They swore a Blood Oath before the Chief Priests, that they would never teach nor preach The Gospel of Lord Yeshua ever again. They handed over the Book Lord Yeshua wrote, as well as any copies they or anyone else had, as well as the names and locations of all Brethren who had copies. We know that they were cooperating with The SANHEDRIN, because they told the Disciples to go back to their Synagogues. SO THAT SAUL AND THE OTHER MARSHALS COULD CATCH THEM. There was a MASSACRE of Disciples who should have preached THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL. The surviving Disciples continued to oppress everyone who tried to reach Lord Yeshua through them, doing practically everything Lord Yeshua told them not to. oaroloye: THE DISCIPLES KNEW THAT IF THEY GAVE THE GOSPEL TO PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED LORD YESHUA AROSE FROM THE DEAD, WITHOUT SEEING EVIDENCE, THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE THE BEST CHRISTIANS. That Lord Yeshua would have no choice but to give the newcomers "their" Seats I The Kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, they deliberately sabotaged the Hebrew Christians, by withholding THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA from them. . 1st JOHN 3:1-18. BEHOLD, what manner of Love The Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called The Sons of God: therefore the World knoweth us not, because It knew him not. 2. Beloved, now are we The Sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, "WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM; FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS." 3. And every man that hath this Hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4. Whosoever committeth Sin transgresseth also The Law: for Sin is the Transgression of The Law. 5. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our Sins; and in him is no Sin. 6. Whosoever abideth in him Sinneth not: whosoever Sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7. Little Children, let no man deceive you: "HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS." 8. He that committeth Sin is of The Devil; for The Devil Sinneth From The Beginning. For this cause The Son of God was manifested, "THAT HE MIGHT DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL." 9. Whosoever is Born of God doth not commit Sin: for His Seed remaineth in him, and he cannot Sin, because he is Born of God. 10. In this The Children of God are manifest, and The Children of The Devil: "WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, NEITHER HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER." 11. For this is The Message that ye heard From The Beginning, "THAT WE SHOULD LOVE ONE ANOTHER." 12. Not as Cain, who was of That Wicked One, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were Evil, and his brother's Righteous. 13. Marvel not, my Brethren, if the World hate you. 14. We know that we have passed from Death unto Life, because we love The Brethren. He that loveth not his Brother abideth in Death. 15. Whosoever hateth his Brother is a Murderer: and ye know that no Murderer hath Eternal Life abiding in him. 16. Hereby perceive we The Love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the Brethren. 17. But whoso hath this World's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his Bowels (of Compassion) from him, how dwelleth The Love of God in him? 18. My Little Children, let us not love in Word, neither in Tongue; but in Deed and in Truth. YOCHANNAN WAS DECEIVING US HERE, BY TALKING IN RIDDLES: HE AND HIS FELLOW 12 DISCIPLES WERE THE ONES WITHHOLDING "THE WORLD'S GOOD:" THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA. It was only after CEPHAS was killed in ROME in 64AD, as PAUL HAD PLANNED, knowing that the mad Emperor NERO would only interpret his Testimony ONE WAY- that he could make a soft God manifest to him and forgive all his Sins (murder of his own cousin, murder of his mother, his prior history as a literal mugger,) by merely persecuting and killing his followers. When this didn't happen, he gave up after only four years of "fun," and committed suicide. A Backward Man, to the end! He should have started with himself. . ACTS 15:1-12. AND certain men which came down from Judaea taught the Brethren, and said, “EXCEPT YE BE CIRCUMCISED AFTER THE MANNER OF MOSES, YE CANNOT BE SAVED.” 2. When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the Apostles and Elders about this question. 3. And being brought on their way by the Church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the Conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the Brethren. 4. And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the Church, and of the Apostles and Elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 5. But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which Believed, saying, "THAT IT WAS NEEDFUL TO CIRCUMCISE THEM, AND TO COMMAND THEM TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES." 6. And the Apostles and Elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, “Men and Brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the Word of The Gospel, and Believe. 8. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them The Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9. “And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by Faith. 10. "Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the Disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11. “But we believe that through The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be Saved, even as they.” 12. Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. THEY ALL CONSPIRED TO BETRAY THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS- PRETENDING THAT THEY DID NOT NEED TO BE CIRCUMCISED, NOR KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES. All this has delayed God's Optimum Timetable. He cannot predict betrayal. He made that clear From The Beginning. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Maynman: 6:52am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Jargons |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Mrquote: God wants only FAITHFUL ones not just anyone, during Noah's time God gave a specific date: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely, because he is only flesh. Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years" Genesis 6:3 Noah's assignment was to build an ark and pick all the animals in pair but this faithful man wanted to rescue all his family and friends so God included the period Noah wishes to speak with them in the timing. Of course nobody took him serious except Noah's own sons and their wives who had no options. So it was exactly 120 years from the day God first spoke with Noah that the rain began! But this time around only faithful people are to be saved so God sent His son to teach us by using events that will lead to the great tribulations {Matthew 24:3-14} even Jesus was not given the date {Matthew 24:36} because his father knew how much Jesus loves humans {Proverbs 8:31} he will tell the faithful ones as he's always fond of the faithfuls! John 15:15 compare to John 16:6 So God doesn't want those who will pretend to be faithful due to knowing the date but those who truly love him no matter how long it takes! Habakkuk 2:3 God bless you and may you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:58pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Mrquote: So all these great Troubles going on around the world have not shown that it has started? |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Mrquote: 2:44pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:How there have never being a time trouble left thia earth. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Wilgrea7(m): 2:55pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
So maybe, just maybe, the tribulation is a made up idea defined by incredibly ambiguous and arbitrary events that are claimed to be prophecies, but could be interpreted in a hundred ways, so as to make the threat of a non-existent event seem real regardless of the time era it is viewed in |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:02pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Mrquote: The word is great troubles! And people everywhere have already finished confessing this, up to the point of being tired of saying it again and again, that the things going on have never been experienced before. So, na you late come. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by OkCornel(m): 4:31pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Mrquote: It does. It kicks off with the abomination of desolation of the temple by the man of lawlessness. See 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-8. Until the temple in Israel is rebuilt, sacrifice and offerings restored, and then later stopped by the man of lawlessness (the beast). We’re in for a long wait. Until then, focus on your life’s purpose. |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by Maynman: 5:29pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Back to tanakh i see |
Re: Why Doesn't The Bible Tell Us Exactly When The Great Tribulation Shall Begin? by TenQ: 8:00am On Aug 23, 2022 |
Mrquote:Prophecies are always in code. Even the birth of Christ was a mystery until Jesus was crucified! |
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