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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 9:47am On Aug 23, 2022
Jerryhare:

I thought you waved bye bye, did you learn how to engage a traditional herbalist from the Bible, did Jesus Christ taught you how to use herbs for healing since he is not capable to heals all sicknesses?
They are a lot of things we do that we didn't learn them from the Bible.
For example, washing our teeth, applying lotions to our body, relaxing our hair, working out etc.

Jesus didn't use herbs or drugs for his illness doesn't mean we can use them.
At least he never condemned consulting a physician or the use of herbs and drugs.

And the last time I checked, the last healing miracle Jesus did was before his death.

After the death of the apostles of Christ, who has been healing Christians all over the world till today?

And before Jesus came to the world, who had been healing the Jews and the Israelites? cheesy

Why didn't Paul faith heal Timothy of his stomach illness, why prescribe alcohol for him?

Using herbs and drugs for my wellbeing is not sin.

May you find peace!
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:56am On Aug 23, 2022
SharonLoveth:

Damn! Jesus is the manufacturer of elements that you use to treat illness, means that even if your traditional herbalist ask you to take sacrifice to T-junction in order for your illnesses to be cured and solved, you won't hesitate because your Jesus is the elements of anything that will heal you right?
There you go again!
How long do you need to understand that Herbalists differ Spiritists?
Take any leave cook and eat differ from carrying anything to another place. Ordinarily carrying your Bible outside the house before praying is SPIRITISM if you don't know! smiley
SharonLoveth:

James 5:14
And if one is ill, let him call The Elders of the church, and let them pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of Our Lord.[
Is like this Bible verse is not working for you, it has been working for me from the ages past
This place is talking about SPIRITUAL illness NOT PHYSICAL, that's why James concluded saying:

Is any sick among you ? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15

So there's a big difference between PHYSICAL and SPIRITUAL illness, one who has stomach ulcer like Timothy was PHYSICALLY ill so praying is not the solution rather it's physical remedies like HERBS that's needed but SPIRITUAL illness is someone committed adultery or fornication such a person needs to approach elders for help and their prayers will open a way for him to be forgiven since Jesus said whatever they bind or loosen on earth has been bound or loosened in heaven! Matthew 16:19

God's never condemned the use of natural remedies madam! smiley
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:05pm On Aug 23, 2022
SharonLoveth:

It is only you and your fellow members that are Christians right? But your own Christian can engage traditional herbalist for healing isn't it?

YES! Because we are DOING THE WORKS OF FAITH as commanded by Christ Jesus! smiley
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 12:51pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


YES! Because we are DOING THE WORKS OF FAITH as commanded by Christ Jesus! smiley

But you don't listen to Jesus words. His warnings, his principles about how to relate with people. You refused to obey him when he said you are to eat the bread and drink the wine in order to have life. You also don't believe Jesus is your Mediator even when the Bible explicitly says so. Watchtower is your mediator. You also barely mention him when he is the one in charge of Heaven and earth but Jehovah is the most important personality in your Cult just like the typical Freemasons believe so. Watchtower also taught you that they are your Messiah, in other words, they are equal to Jesus. Your Cult also loves Satanic symbols. You are not a Christian. You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus. grin

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by SharonLoveth(f): 5:52pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

There you go again!
How long do you need to understand that Herbalists differ Spiritists?
Take any leave cook and eat differ from carrying anything to another place. Ordinarily carrying your Bible outside the house before praying is SPIRITISM if you don't know! smiley

Stop fooling yourself and don't be deceived. If anyone tells you that traditional herbalist are not spiritual, refute not to be brainwashed

Traditional herbalists or healers use trance states ( spirit possession, sometimes called shamanistic healing) or other means of divination.


World Health Organization (2002), The “Traditional medicine” may be defined as health practices, approaches, knowledge and beliefs incorporating plant, animal and mineral based medicines, spiritual therapies, manual techniques and exercises, applied singularly or in combination to treat, diagnose and prevent illnesses or maintain well-being



MaxInDHouse:


This place is talking about SPIRITUAL illness NOT PHYSICAL, that's why James concluded saying:

Is any sick among you ? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15

So there's a big difference between PHYSICAL and SPIRITUAL illness, one who has stomach ulcer like Timothy was PHYSICALLY ill so praying is not the solution rather it's physical remedies like HERBS that's needed but SPIRITUAL illness is someone committed adultery or fornication such a person needs to approach elders for help and their prayers will open a way for him to be forgiven since Jesus said whatever they bind or loosen on earth has been bound or loosened in heaven! Matthew 16:19

God's never condemned the use of natural remedies madam! smiley

You're only good at swivel, twiddle the word of God to suit your ignorant

You can read from verse 13, you'll understand this better. That Bible passage is not about spiritual illness

If God never condemned engaging traditional herbalist, show us where he approved such as read in the Bible

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by SharonLoveth(f): 6:01pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


YES! Because we are DOING THE WORKS OF FAITH as commanded by Christ Jesus! smiley

So the work of your own faith permits you to look for healing from traditional herbalist but fails to tell you that the PRAYER OF FAITH WORKS FOR HEALING isn't it? Or Jesus Christ directs you to traditional herbalist since he can't heal right?
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18pm On Aug 23, 2022
SharonLoveth:


Stop fooling yourself and don't be deceived. If anyone tells you that traditional herbalist are not spiritual, refute not to be brainwashed

Traditional herbalists or healers use trance states ( spirit possession, sometimes called shamanistic healing) or other means of divination.


World Health Organization (2002), The “Traditional medicine” may be defined as health practices, approaches, knowledge and beliefs incorporating plant, animal and mineral based medicines, spiritual therapies, manual techniques and exercises, applied singularly or in combination to treat, diagnose and prevent illnesses or maintain well-being





You're only good at swivel, twiddle the word of God to suit your ignorant

You can read from verse 13, you'll understand this better. That Bible passage is not about spiritual illness

If God never condemned engaging traditional herbalist, show us where he approved such as read in the Bible

You're the one that needs to show us where God condemns medicines or use of HERBS to treat illnesses! smiley

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:20pm On Aug 23, 2022
SharonLoveth:

So the work of your own faith permits you to look for healing from traditional herbalist but fails to tell you that the PRAYER OF FAITH WORKS FOR HEALING isn't it? Or Jesus Christ directs you to traditional herbalist since he can't heal right?

Just show me where Jesus condemned the use of HERBS after all his words are recorded in the Bible!

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Jerryhare: 6:26pm On Aug 23, 2022
cornelboy:

They are a lot of things we do that we didn't learn them from the Bible.
For example, washing our teeth, applying lotions to our body, relaxing our hair, working out etc.

Jesus didn't use herbs or drugs for his illness doesn't mean we can use them.
At least he never condemned consulting a physician or the use of herbs and drugs.

And the last time I checked, the last healing miracle Jesus did was before his death.

After the death of the apostles of Christ, who has been healing Christians all over the world till today?

And before Jesus came to the world, who had been healing the Jews and the Israelites? cheesy

Why didn't Paul faith heal Timothy of his stomach illness, why prescribe alcohol for him?

Using herbs and drugs for my wellbeing is not sin.

May you find peace!

Do you know that Before his conversion, Paul initially opposed the followers of Jesus and vehemently sought to end the spread of the Gospel.


Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness without applying traditional herbs

Open the Below link to read more on this:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/the-apostles-healing-in-acts.html


In Old and New testament, nowhere it is written that Jews were healed from their diseases and sicknesses with the use of traditional herbs.
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:33pm On Aug 23, 2022
Jerryhare:

In Old and New testament, nowhere it is written that Jews were healed from their diseases and sicknesses with the use of traditional herbs.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm and so you should stop bathing with SOAP as well since it wasn't written anywhere that God's people use SOAP during bathing! cheesy

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Jerryhare: 8:06pm On Aug 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm and so you should stop bathing with SOAP as well since it wasn't written anywhere that God's people use SOAP during bathing! cheesy

See shallow thinking, we shouldn't blame you since traditional herbalists are your saviours, so no how you won't use black soap for healing

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On Aug 23, 2022
Jerryhare:

See shallow thinking, we shouldn't blame you since traditional herbalists are your saviours, so no how you won't use black soap for healing

Chai you be witch o! embarassed
How you take know sey na black soap i take bath? In fact i prepared it with HERBS, ROOTS and other natural ingredients! grin

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 10:10pm On Aug 23, 2022
Jerryhare:

Do you know that Before his conversion, Paul initially opposed the followers of Jesus and vehemently sought to end the spread of the Gospel.
Open the Below link to read more on this:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/the-apostles-healing-in-acts.html

Luke 8:43
[43]And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,

The above Bible verse is a proof that there are physicians (doctors) during the time of Jesus in Israel.

Those physicians in Israel definitely used medicinal herbs and plants to treat their patients.

In Old and New testament, nowhere it is written that Jews were healed from their diseases and sicknesses with the use of traditional herbs.
It wasn't written down in the Bible doesn't mean it didn't happen.

At least we know that there were physicians in Israel before and after Jesus time on earth.

Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness without applying traditional herbs
Where are the 12 disciples today?
Where did Jesus condemn natural use of herbs for healing?
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Jerryhare: 2:55am On Aug 24, 2022
cornelboy:


Luke 8:43
[43]And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,


The above Bible verse is a proof that there are physicians (doctors) during the time of Jesus in Israel.

Those physicians in Israel definitely used medicinal herbs and plants to treat their patients.

Even Jesus Christ is a great physician, did he make use of traditional herbs to heal the woman having an issue of blood? Is divine healing through Christ Jesus an abomination in your occult religion?



cornelboy:


It wasn't written down in the Bible doesn't mean it didn't happen.

At least we know that there were physicians in Israel before and after Jesus time on earth.

Mention the name of those physicians and quote where they apply traditional herbs for healing since you are no more following Jesus steps but traditional herbalist footsteps?


cornelboy:


Where are the 12 disciples today?
Where did Jesus condemn natural use of herbs for healing?

Bible says Jesus Christ gave his disciples authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness without applying traditional herbs. Did the disciples follows the footsteps of Jesus Christ or NOT? if prayers and divine healing is not working till today, the disciples ought to have applied traditional herbs for healing

You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Jerryhare: 3:01am On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Chai you be witch o! embarassed
How you take know sey na black soap i take bath? In fact i prepared it with HERBS, ROOTS and other natural ingredients! grin

And you call yourself a Christian right? Certainly truth shall prevail


You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:26am On Aug 24, 2022
Jerryhare:


And you call yourself a Christian right? Certainly truth shall prevail


You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE
Ọmọ Jesus is not lost rather its his father's sheep that were lost and needed to be found {Matthew 10:6} so it's only within his flock that true peace exists {John 14:27} as for treatment of illnesses with natural herbs there is nowhere it is condemned in the scriptures just using soap for bathing is neither nor condemned in God's word.
So you lack knowledge! Hosea 4:6 smiley
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Jerryhare: 12:36pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ Jesus is not lost rather its his father's sheep that were lost and needed to be found {Matthew 10:6} so it's only within his flock that true peace exists {John 14:27} as for treatment of illnesses with natural herbs there is nowhere it is condemned in the scriptures just using soap for bathing is neither nor condemned in God's word.
So you lack knowledge! Hosea 4:6 smiley


You will need the same black soap to heal your fatuity. Thank you
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:19pm On Aug 24, 2022
Jerryhare:

You will need the same black soap to heal your fatuity. Thank you
I have the knowledge of God Sir so soap is for bathing and skin care! wink
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:00pm On Aug 24, 2022
SharonLoveth:


We'll together help his spiritual life, he believes in traditional herbalist more than Jesus whom he claimed to be following his steps

grin okay madam
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:00pm On Aug 24, 2022
Jerryhare:


You know him very well?

Very well
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:03pm On Aug 24, 2022
Jerryhare:


And you call yourself a Christian right? Certainly truth shall prevail


You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE

Their own Christians can patronize babaláwo, onisegun and adahunse for healing and deliverance as they don't believe in Jesus Christ the great healer
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:05pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

I have the knowledge of God Sir so soap is for bathing and skin care! wink

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, they suppose give you black soap to complete your healing grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:06pm On Aug 24, 2022
Courz:


But you don't listen to Jesus words. His warnings, his principles about how to relate with people. You refused to obey him when he said you are to eat the bread and drink the wine in order to have life. You also don't believe Jesus is your Mediator even when the Bible explicitly says so. Watchtower is your mediator. You also barely mention him when he is the one in charge of Heaven and earth but Jehovah is the most important personality in your Cult just like the typical Freemasons believe so. Watchtower also taught you that they are your Messiah, in other words, they are equal to Jesus. Your Cult also loves Satanic symbols. You are not a Christian. You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus. grin


MaxInDHouse you jakpa for this again abi grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 3:14pm On Aug 24, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:



MaxInDHouse you jakpa for this again abi grin

He has been avoiding my posts. grin grin He and his JW minions have been avoiding me. Why? Because of all the secrets of Watchtower I posted in the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons thread. The exposure there choked them. They ran away. When light is shone on people that love to move in the dark, they will run! They have nothing to say again. The public must know the Satanic hold in that Cult and Run! grin

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Aug 24, 2022
Courz:

He has been avoiding my posts. grin grin He and his JW minions have been avoiding me. Why? Because of all the secrets of Watchtower I posted in the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied with Freemasons thread. The exposure there choked them. They ran away. When light is shone on people that love to move in the dark, they will run! They have nothing to say again. The public must know the Satanic hold in that Cult and Run! grin

On the contrary you're the one RUNNING away from JWs because i am ready to chat with you if you're also ready to address my questions.
So are you ready for a cross section of questioning?
You will ask yours and i will also ask mine then we will both be given enough time to address the questions?

Are you READY? wink

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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 3:25pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


On the contrary you're the one RUNNING away from JWs because i am ready to chat with you if you're also ready to address my questions.
So are you ready for a cross section of questioning?
You will ask yours and i will also ask mine then we will both be given enough time to address the questions?

Are you READY? wink

Your Freemason god in this broadcast below admitted to Watchtower getting your doctrines from Fallen Angels by mentioning Angel Number 777. What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:05pm On Aug 24, 2022
Courz:


Your Freemason god in this broadcast below admitted to Watchtower getting your doctrines from Fallen Angels by mentioning Angel Number 777. What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

Are you ready for the cross examination? cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 4:08pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Are you ready for the cross examination? cheesy

Your Freemason god in this broadcast below admitted to Watchtower getting your doctrines from Fallen Angels by mentioning Angel Number 777. What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Aug 24, 2022
Courz:


Your Freemason god in this broadcast below admitted to Watchtower getting your doctrines from Fallen Angels by mentioning Angel Number 777. What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

When you're ready let me know! wink
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 4:14pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


When you're ready let me know! wink

This is how JWs respond when they have nothing to say especially when the Satanic nature of their Cult is pointed to them. This is why Mad MaxInDHouse and his JW minions run away from my posts. grin grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19pm On Aug 24, 2022
Courz:


This is how JWs respond when they have nothing to say especially when the Satanic nature of their Cult is pointed to them. This is why Mad MaxInDHouse and his JW minions run away from my posts. grin grin

Let's exchange questions! cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by Courz: 4:28pm On Aug 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Let's exchange questions! cheesy

Exchange what questions? What is it that I want to learn from you whose source are from Fallen Angels based on this video below? Your "Spiritual food" from Watchtower is rotten food, remember? Watchtower says Jesus took the Holy Spirit away when he came invisibly. and that is why they are not inspired. Why should I ask for something that doesn't come from the Holy Spirit?

As long as I keep pointing the Satanic nature of your Cult, you will keep running away. I notice you JWs always have strength for arguing over doctrines. Arguing with you over doctrines is a waste of time because I know your source. You boast about being the One True religion free from Paganism. What I want to know is why you still have Paganism in your cult with all these Satanic symbols all over you and evidence alluding to Spiritism. You can't be the One True religion and still dabble in Spiritism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw

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