In a relationship/marriage men expects women to submit mainly because they PROVIDE, so should an independent woman who also provide submit to a man? It looks to me as a gaslighting or mental abuse . A woman who provides will naturally not submit because providing gives you some kind of power and manly ego. So as a strong dependent woman, I believe a man who wants a submissive woman should go for a dependent woman so you can have a stable relationship/marriage else there’ll be trouble and danger looming ahead, which will eventually lead to a broken marriage/relationship.

Iyaebe rest IJN

Who's even interested in marriage these days, baby mama sure pass. Dey ur dey make I dey my dey.

Figger:
Who's even interested in marriage these days, baby mama sure pass. Dey ur dey make I dey my dey.

Marriage is a beautiful thing, we won’t be in existence if our parents ever reasoned this way

Here we go again , dependent woman or not . A woman must always submit to the man . And who told you that it is only the man that should be providing . When GOD wanted to create woman , ( GEN 2:20 . And adam gave names to all cattle and to fowl of the air and to every beast of the earth; but for adam there was not a HELPMEET for him. NOTE: GOD call woman help meet not consumer. so if you are the one blessed by GOD to be able to provide at that particular time then do it and be submissive. Am sure no woman now can be the breadwinner of the family now for just two weeks without wahala , whereas a thousand day in GOD presence is not even up to a day. Just a pity that the earth is now dominated by foolish women , who still claim stupid rights for themselves

iamyungkhalifa:
Here we go again , dependent woman or not . A woman must always submit to the man . And who told you that it is only the man that should be providing . When GOD wanted to create woman , ( GEN 2:20 . And adam gave names to all cattle and to fowl of the air and to every beast of the earth; but for adam there was not a HELPMEET for him. NOTE: GOD call woman help meet not consumer. so if you are the one blessed by GOD to be able to provide at that particular time then do it and be submissive. Am sure no woman now can be the breadwinner of the family now for just two weeks without wahala , whereas a thousand day in GOD presence is not even up to a day. Just a pity that the earth is now dominated by foolish women , who still claim stupid rights for themselves

How you guys misquote the bible is funny, turning helpmate to a co-provider is ridiculous.

;DYou are to help your man not consume him okay. Naija girl hope am communicating

Rozross:
How you guys misquote the bible is funny, turning helpmate to a co-provider is ridiculous.

you think i misquote the bible right . Are you a christain and do you read you bible cause am goin to ask you some questions from that same bible

iamyungkhalifa:
you think i misquote the bible right . Are you a christain and do you read you bible cause am goin to ask you some questions from that same bible

Throw your questions already, if men actually follow the words of the bible, we won’t be where we are today as regards marriage

Iyaebe rest abeg,,,,u have come again with ur gibberish threads.

BeanmanX:
Iyaebe rest abeg,,,,u have come again with ur gibberish threads.

You’ll have to choose between a dependent and an independent woman, you can’t eat your cake and have it

To think that this one is resting and taking a deep breath now assuring herself she has created a wonderful thread makes me nurse the thought of advising Seun to put mental examination as part of qualifications to create account in this place. Problem is that doing so will be like reporting to a DPO that one of his policemen took bribe from you, an effort in futility.

Nonexisting1:
To think that this one is resting and taking a deep breath now assuring herself she has created a wonderful thread makes me nurse the thought of advising Seun to put mental examination as part of qualifications to create account in this place. Problem is that doing so will be like reporting to a DPO that one of his policemen took bribe from you, an effort in futility.

� you guys always paranoid whenever women demands that you play your role. It’s either you want a dependent woman or an independent woman, you can’t eat your cake and have it

Rozross:
� you guys always paranoid whenever women demands that you play your role. It’s either you want a dependent woman or an independent woman, you can’t eat your cake and have it

You are right. Now, bye.

Nonexisting1:
You are right. Now, bye.

You are truly nonexisting

Rozross:
You are truly nonexisting

Lol

Rozross:
Throw your questions already, if men actually follow the words of the bible, we won’t be where we are today as regards marriage

okay good you are a christain like me . The word ezer came out 21 times in the old testament. One for eve adam wife and the rest to GOD . The word ezer mean helpmeet or strength. The isrealite used this word when calling on GOD . why did GOD used the word for eve? Can you answer that

Truth be told, there are only few good marriages left these days. Marriage of nowadays ehn, na like endurance instead of enjoyment that's why many people shy away from getting married. The mindset of many men and ladies out there are so fvcked up!

And what many men don't understand is that you don't force submission on your wife, that's almost making her a slave. Your wife is not your slave. You love her "unconditionally" to the point where she will willingly submit herself to you. One must understand that your husband or wife may wrong you and will wrong you countless times and if you want to enjoy your life and have peace of mind, you'll forgive ahead. Even though I am not married yet, I forgive every wrong ahead. I may not communicate with you as before but I have forgiven you because forgiveness is in my power.

Rozross:
Throw your questions already, if men actually follow the words of the bible, we won’t be where we are today as regards marriage

okay . Have you ever comes across the word ezer in your bible. The word appear 21 times in the old testament. This particular word was use for only two people. The word mean helpmeet or strength. And the word was only used for two people. Eve and GOD( When the children of israel called on him) why did GOD Use this word for eve? Can u answer that

iamyungkhalifa:
okay good you are a christain like me . The word ezer came out 21 times in the old testament. One for eve adam wife and the rest to GOD . The word ezer mean helpmeet or strength. The isrealite used this word when calling on GOD . why did GOD used the word for eve? Can you answer that

Helpmate in helping raise Godly children, the problem here is the word HelpMate , did God asked eve to till the soil? You guys should stop misquoting the bible to suit your narratives

So, you are saying because a woman contributes financially, she should not submit to her husband and the reason why a man should be submitted to because he provides, in other word, all that makes a man a man is that he provides not even leadership, not spiritual headship nor the masculine support, just that he provides money.


It is your type that are sent to destroy marriages

See, I have a neighbour, the man is not working. The woman is a nurse and provides for the home. I just learnt she is building for the family. The man is jobless. But their home is one of the most peaceful in the compound and the woman respects the man 100%

Continue this wokeness, Nah una go suffer am las las

Rozross:
Helpmate in helping raise Godly children, the problem here is the word HelpMate , did God asked eve to till the soil? You guys should stop misquoting the bible to suit your narratives

helpmate does not means that you should till the soil. Help mate which GOD calls eve means that : the strength of the man. And also serve with man. Because the man alone cannot do it. Imagine only adam till the soil , feed the animals , tender the plant , cut woods , cook food , fetch water etc adam would have die. Women you always love claiming stupid rights that how you guys were doing tooo when you gave us apple chop finish. and you havent answer my question tooo

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Qtrpst4:
So, you are saying because a woman contributes financially, she should not submit to her husband and the reason why a man should be submitted to because he provides, in other word, all that makes a man a man is that he provides not even leadership, not spiritual headship nor the masculine support, just that he provides money.


It is your type that are sent to destroy marriages

See, I have a neighbour, the man is not working. The woman is a nurse and provides for the home. I just learnt she is building for the family. The man is jobless. But their home is one of the most peaceful in the compound and the woman respects the man 100%

Continue this wokeness, Nah una go suffer am las las

[quote author=Rozross post=116462751] tell her ooo i have been correcting her since morning. She even call herself christain which i start to ask her question from her religion (my religion too) she cant answer most of my questions yet she keeps on saying shit

A woman's submission to a man has nothing to do with independence or dependences. So as a woman, I should not do anything with my life because I want to be submissive. No
If she doesn't want to submit she should not marry, simple.
Any woman who is submissive because she is dependent is a pretender
The worse are those who are dependent and and still be peppering the man

The role in marriage should never be reversed, when that happens , you begin to experience problems.
The man should provide and love his wife, while the wife respects and submit to her husband.
The submission here doesn't mean the husband should see the wife as a slave, no. The truth is that it takes discipline and character to see a woman who provides for the home to still have respect for her husband.
Even when she tries, you begin to get advise from family members and even friends. It all boils down to everybody, their upbringing and the way they see life.

Medianna:
A woman's submission to a man has nothing to do with independence or dependences. So as a woman, I should not do anything with my life because I want to be submissive. No
If she doesn't want to submit she should not marry, simple.
Any woman who is submissive because she is dependent is a pretender
The worse are those who are dependent and and still be peppering the man

When a woman provides, it becomes difficult for her to submit, it’s the reason for the increase in divorce in many homes . This is the truth and reality. I’m not saying a woman should be jobless though.

Rozross:
You’ll have to choose between a dependent and an independent woman, you can’t eat your cake and have it

What does this even mean?There's no such woman as 'independent'. The same way there's no such man as 'independent'.
No one is independent.

I Concur

Personally, i don't find men who demands submission attractive. It puts them off as immature and lacking. You don't go about demanding or looking for submission like it's the air you breathe.It doesn't work that way. If you always want to be heard, if you think you are always right and you get to make all decisions then you don't need a partner. You are self sufficient already .

Any man who wants an independent woman must be ready to make some compromise. Starting with accountability.

Medianna:
A woman's submission to a man has nothing to do with independence or dependences. So as a woman, I should not do anything with my life because I want to be submissive. No
If she doesn't want to submit she should not marry, simple.
Any woman who is submissive because she is dependent is a pretender
The worse are those who are dependent and and still be peppering the man

Well-said and I also think all these words aren't clearly defined. Independence,dependence and Submission should have a clear definition.