Tinyemeka:


Hi ya.

I'd spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria. Landed in the UK recently (not study visa) but want to make a career switch to Project Management (still a beginner and currently studying for PRINCE2 Foundation).

Have been applying to Admin roles to get a foot in the door. Have done two interviews so far and they're telling me I did well (currently awaiting their official feedback) but I'm not finding it funny (maybe it's the JJC in me). People have been saying you should not be bothered about your accent, as long as you speak clearly (which I've been doing so far) but I fear that it might be a drag actually and picking up the British accent has been a hassle to me.

Any pointers with regards to the PM career pursuit?

Sorry I just felt to rant. I dey find morale booster.

I don't think you need to change your accent. However you need to understand that Nigerian English is a lot different from British English, from phrasing down to pronounciations.

i.e.
Nigerians: "They are telling me I did well!"
British: "They've said I've done well"

or
Nigerians: "I have spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria"
British: "In Nigeria, I spent several years working in retail banking"

Thos are the areas of speech you need to be mindful of when trying to communicate. We Nigerians tend to talk fast as well so that is another area to focus on if you want to be understood by your colleagues.

Gemma11:


I don't think you need to change your accent. However you need to understand that Nigerian English is a lot different from British English, from phrasing down to pronounciations.

i.e.
Nigerians: "They are telling me I did well!"
British: "They've said I did well"

or
Nigerians: "I have spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria"
British: "In Nigeria, I spent several years working in retail banking"

Thos are the areas of speech you need to be mindful of when trying to communicate. We Nigerians tend to talk fast as well so that is another area to focus on if you want to be understood by your colleagues.

Fast, how?

Lexusgs430:


This is interesting.........

What would now happen after 12 months (assuming you never pass UK test[b][/b]).........

Get an electric bike or no shifts/work then no pay.

Lexusgs430:


This is interesting.........

What would now happen after 12 months (assuming you never pass UK test).........

We move

I decamp
Find another thing to do

Thank God for His intervention.

ukay2:


Good it's sorted smoothly

Lexusgs430:


This is interesting.........

What would now happen after 12 months (assuming you never pass UK test).........

I definitely wouldn't just sit back and not try to get the license done.

I strongly believe it isn't has difficult as it's made to look like(my own opinion)

What visa route bro?

Please share because I am admiring that land too.

hustla:


For their pocket

My own country is Australia

japhethGold:
What visa route bro?

Please share because I am admiring that land too.

Still doing some research, looking at PR route

Income tax is the UK is over 60% for high income earners so even if they pay you high wages, the government will collect most of the money as tax and leave you just ok.

On the contrary, company tax is very low at 19% so it pays companies to not give their money to employees as the government would collect most of it.

hustla:
Sorry to divert from the topic but why are salaries crazy low in the UK compared to other countries?

I was doing some research on Youtube and found out that what people get paid at Microsoft (US/Canada and Australia) in entry level roles is basically same as what a Director/Manager makes in the UK

I am checking Glassdoor now and £25K / £30K roles in UK = $120K in Australia (Tech). I think the same goes for those in healthcare as I have been researching mental health nursing / social work too

Someone mentioned it to me on Twitter about a year ago and I dismissed his claims citing healthcare and GBP being more than the currency of most countries but having checked now, its weird

Just cant seem to wrap my head around the reason

hustla:
Sorry to divert from the topic but why are salaries crazy low in the UK compared to other countries?


Just cant seem to wrap my head around the reason

Have you seen the cost of living in Australia and where it is located? There has to be a reason for people to go there. Money is an excellent reason! We just made a trip back to the UK from New Zealand. Flights alone for 5 of us cost us $18k and that was the cheapest flights we could find in low season.

Salaries in Canada are only high in Tech and Finance. It's average in other sectors and almost on par with the UK with a higher cost of living. Then for those in health and education, you need different licenses depending on province, same as Australia.

We worked out we would need about $140k (70k GBP) joint income to live comfortably in either NZ or Australia. Till we got here... we were managing to get by on that joint income. Luckily, we were in a position to change jobs and quickly scale up.

But Australia and by extension NZ is a land of opportunities in terms of small businesses and risk taking. All sectors pay well. Very well because that is the biggest drawcard. People then stay for the lifestyle.

PS - taxwise, there's no tax free allowance in Canada, Australia or NZ. Pensions are fully taxed as well. There are no ISAs. No paying into pension to reduce your tax exposure. Canada has state and federal taxes which makes taxes over all higher. NZ's lowest tax band is 33% with no tax free allowance. Australia lowest tax band is around 30%. On top of this this, there is a medical levy of 2%. They also have CGT even
when selling your own personal home.

PSS - even children's accounts are taxed in the 3 countries! . It was a huge shock to us hence why the kids investment accounts are all in the UK.

Follow the opportunities, make the most of those opportunities and retire somewhere close to home!

Eeerrm if the English clear well well for my eye and understanding.

I can actually get a provisional license now and it won't affect my Nigerian license?

Anyone with pointers on how to ship my laptop from Lagos to London ?

FedEx and UPS are quoting cut-throat rates

Please, na beg I Dey right now

Gemma11:


I don't think you need to change your accent. However you need to understand that Nigerian English is a lot different from British English, from phrasing down to pronounciations.

i.e.
Nigerians: "They are telling me I did well!"
British: "They've said I did well"

or
Nigerians: "I have spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria"
British: "In Nigeria, I spent several years working in retail banking"

Thos are the areas of speech you need to be mindful of when trying to communicate. We [b]Nigerians tend to talk fast as well [/b]so that is another area to focus on if you want to be understood by your colleagues.

Very well noted. Thanks a lot.

I've also made a conscious effort to slow down a bit while talking, most especially during the interviews.

Amarathripple0:

The accent thing might be in your head actually, this is the least of their worry unless they have a bias which I doubt. So you might be over thinking it. The fact that you are getting interviews means you are doing something right. You can hit up my inbox so we can speak further on scaling the interview process. I’m currently in this process as well and it has been exciting.

Oh wow!

I'm fervently looking forward to enjoying that sentiment as soon as possible.

japhethGold:
Income tax is the UK is over 60% for high income earners so even if they pay you high wages, the government will collect most of the money as tax and leave you just ok.

On the contrary, company tax is very low at 19% so it pays companies to not give their money to employees as the government would collect most of it.

LOL.

It was in this same UK that I got to know that someone could work as an independent contractor for a firm, earn wages as a "registered company" and avoid those >40% tax liabilities. See off-payroll working and IR35.

One has got a lot of things to learn sha. With time.

I'm sure of at least two NLers in this thread...

ybahrbz91:
Good Morning Everyone.

I had like to know what are the likely questions a Tier 2 dependant will be ask at the Point of Entry into the UK?

Any necessary document to hold along?

Thank you

They will ask for your occupation in nigeria and the reason for coming to to uk ,that all .
Only your passport with your uk visa vignette is required .

rayralph:
Anyone with pointers on how to ship my laptop from Lagos to London ?

FedEx and UPS are quoting cut-throat rates

Please, na beg I Dey right now

You can use one of these cargo companies, I recently used them and it took less than a week . I believe there’s also someone on this forum that does same . Mamatuwas?..

HondaLover:
Eeerrm if the English clear well well for my eye and understanding.

I can actually get a provisional license now and it won't affect my Nigerian license?

Getting a PL now would not in anyway affect your Nigerian license.

When moving house, which is better? To hire a van and drive it yourself OR book a van with a driver. Both houses are like 10mins drive apart.

Mamatukwas:


OMG! Exactly what I thought

The message has a liru bit of everything sprinkled with a touch of cv

I sent a pm. Kindly check.

marylandcakes:


You can use one of these cargo companies, I recently used them and it took less than a week . I believe there’s also someone on this forum that does same . Mamatuwas?..

Thank you

DeeOneBangin:


Getting a PL now would not in anyway affect your Nigerian license.

E ṣeun o

Good morning gurus, please how can i track my application?

DeeOneBangin:
When moving house, which is better? To hire a van and drive it yourself OR book a van with a driver. Both houses are like 10mins drive apart.

Hire a van ........

Amarathripple0:

And the gag is, she’s an immigrant! Looks like she has forgotten where she’s from because she’s married to a white man. Las Las she go dey alright.

The thing is Indians are using trade deals and other ways to flood UK disproportionately more than other nations. In 2020 they had the highest number of overstayers yet they are giving deals to make them stay more

If Nigerians had that much over stayers they will be noise everywhere. How come even with right to work / right to rent they still have such a high number disappearing into the system

So me I like her that she put her eye on why are Indians flooding her so much and she has planted that seed . However yes that means she truly forgot where and how she came here. Immigrant

Ticha:


Have you seen the cost of living in Australia and where it is located? There has to be a reason for people to go there. Money is an excellent reason! We just made a trip back to the UK from New Zealand. Flights alone for 5 of us cost us $18k and that was the cheapest flights we could find in low season.

Salaries in Canada are only high in Tech and Finance. It's average in other sectors and almost on par with the UK with a higher cost of living. Then for those in health and education, you need different licenses depending on province, same as Australia.

We worked out we would need about $140k (70k GBP) joint income to live comfortably in either NZ or Australia. Till we got here... we were managing to get by on that joint income. Luckily, we were in a position to change jobs and quickly scale up.

But Australia and by extension NZ is a land of opportunities in terms of small businesses and risk taking. All sectors pay well. Very well because that is the biggest drawcard. People then stay for the lifestyle.

PS - taxwise, there's no tax free allowance in Canada, Australia or NZ. Pensions are fully taxed as well. There are no ISAs. No paying into pension to reduce your tax exposure. Canada has state and federal taxes which makes taxes over all higher. NZ's lowest tax band is 33% with no tax free allowance. Australia lowest tax band is around 30%. On top of this this, there is a medical levy of 2%. They also have CGT even
when selling your own personal home.

PSS - even children's accounts are taxed in the 3 countries! . It was a huge shock to us hence why the kids investment accounts are all in the UK.

Follow the opportunities, make the most of those opportunities and retire somewhere close to home!

Thanks for saying it all. @hustla I told you earlier that most folks don't tell you the entire story but here is a credible one. And it's same with all I've heard from different folks with same experience

LagosismyHome:


The thing is Indians are using trade deals and other ways to flood UK disproportionately more than other nations. In 2020 they had the highest number of overstayers yet they are giving deals to make them stay more

If Nigerians had that much over stayers they will be noise everywhere. How come even with right to work / right to rent they still have such a high number disappearing into the system

So me I like her that she put her eye on why are Indians flooding her so much and she has planted that seed . However yes that means she truly forgot where and how she came here. Immigrant

So why so much noise about naija dependants, we kill person?

rayralph:


I sent a pm. Kindly check.

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This is really helpful thank you so much

Gemma11:


I don't think you need to change your accent. However you need to understand that Nigerian English is a lot different from British English, from phrasing down to pronounciations.

i.e.
Nigerians: "They are telling me I did well!"
British: "They've said I did well"

or
Nigerians: "I have spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria"
British: "In Nigeria, I spent several years working in retail banking"

Thos are the areas of speech you need to be mindful of when trying to communicate. We Nigerians tend to talk fast as well so that is another area to focus on if you want to be understood by your colleagues.

Nigerians talk fast?
To me o, I think it is the oyibos that rap when they talk

Gemma11:


I don't think you need to change your accent. However you need to understand that Nigerian English is a lot different from British English, from phrasing down to pronounciations.

i.e.
Nigerians: "They are telling me I did well!"
British: "They've said I did well"

or
Nigerians: "I have spent years doing retail banking in Nigeria"
British: "In Nigeria, I spent several years working in retail banking"

Thos are the areas of speech you need to be mindful of when trying to communicate. We Nigerians tend to talk fast as well, so that is another area to focus on if you want to be understood by your colleagues.

Nigerians don't talk fast. Hear Scottish or British accents; then you will know we are learning. They talk so much rubbish at a gigabyte

Goke7:


So why so much noise about naija dependants, we kill person?

The system is being overloaded on various fronts - healthcare and housing are the most obvious ones.

It's not just about money either, because even with more immigrants with more money, limited infrastructure will not magically appear, and things like house rent will continue to shoot up because of higher demand and bidding wars.

So there are legitimate reasons for brits to be concerned - it's not about racism. Also, people want to protect their cultures and the makeup of their countries, and that's not racist either.

No Nigerian would be happy to return to their hometown and find that the majority of people there are foreigners whom they don't recognise, or from other countries entirely even, and speaking an entirely different language with different cultural practices. Even inside the country there's so much animosity against people of other ethnic groups who move to or through communities dominated by other ethnicities but we somehow go outside and act shocked when we see others expressing similar concern.

We must admit the way people are approaching the dependents thing is absurd, including sham marriages and all. Just look at that chart and see - that's clearly abnormal.