Maynman:


Do you have amnesia, brainwashed illiterate?
Go back to all your previous texts and read.

Who is the author of the random books that you are basing your life on?

i wouldn't tell you about God's word even if you could understand oh most dum one:

Mat_7:6  Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

johnw47:


i wouldn't tell you about God's word even if you could understand oh most dum one:

Mat_7:6  Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Brainwashed illiterate, who are the authors of the random books you are basing your miserable life on?

You just keep quoting jargons bwahahahah

Maynman:


Do you have amnesia, brainwashed illiterate?
Go back to all your previous texts and read.

Who is the author of the random books that you are basing your miserable life on?

ok i went back and read my posts, and i haven't asked you any questions, let alone all of them as you said

so you quote all of them for me:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

you do hear voices in your head, don't you

johnw47:


ok i went back and read my posts, and i haven't asked you any questions, let alone all of them as you said

so you quote all of them for me:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

you do hear voices in your head, don't you

You haven’t ask me any questions
I understand, That’s because you have amnesia, brainwashed dummy

Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

Maynman:


Brainwashed illiterate, who are the authors of the random books you are basing your miserable life on?

You just keep quoting jargons bwahahahah

like i have to keep telling you oh most dum one, you keep repeating the same things over and over again
it's because you have been blinded and have nothing intelligent at all to say:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw47:



how has he been duped?

At 5:45am

johnw47:


like i have to keep telling you oh most dum one, you keep repeating the same things over and over again
it's because you have been blinded and have nothing intelligent at all to say:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

And i keep telling you, Brainwashed illiterate, who are the authors of the random books you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

Indoctrinated sheep, You just keep quoting jargons bwahahahah

johnw47:




"how was he duped"

6:19am

johnw47:


"how was he duped" oh I’m a big dum dum

8:04am

johnw47:




see how you still cannot show: "how was he duped",

8:31am

Maynman:


You haven’t ask me any questions
I understand, That’s because you have amnesia, brainwashed dummy

Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



you cannot quote all the questions you said i have asked you
u r a unashamable liar, aren't you, like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw47:


Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



you cannot quote all the questions you said i have asked you
u r a unashamable liar, aren't you, like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Not my fault You are suffering from amnesia!

Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

johnw47:




you cannot quote all the questions you said i have asked you

Illiterate, This is what i said.
Pathetic liar like your israelite deity

johnw47:



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

you do hear voices in your head, don't you

Is your father not also a devil?

You are suffering from amnesia.

Maynman:

Not my fault You are suffering from amnesia!

you still cannot quote all the questions you said i have asked you
such is u a liar:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Maynman:

This is what i said.
Pathetic liar like your israelite deity

oh duh dum dum, you said: "you keep asking the same dumb questions over and over again"
and i asked you to quote all those questions that you say i keep asking you

of course you cannot, can you oh confused and blinded liar like your daddy the devil:

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Maynman:


Is your father not also a devil?

You are suffering from amnesia.

attached verse:
Num 22:22  But God was angry because he was going, and the angel of the LORD took his stand in the way as an adversary against him.

of course my Father God is not a devil oh dum one, you of course don't understang God's word. i have explained this earlier but you are way to dum to know even what day it is

the hebrew word "satan" in that verse means adversary, opponent
satan is also a name for the devil

in the posted verse it is clearly: "the angel of the LORD is an adversary/opposer of baalam
and not "the angel of the Lord is a satan/devil of baalam

you so dum, aren't you



see you later tonight oh know nothing

johnw47:



oh duh dum dum, you said: "you keep asking the same dumb questions over and over again"
and i asked you to quote all those questions that you say i keep asking you

of course you cannot, can you oh confused and blinded liar like your daddy the devil:

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Dummy, go back to your texts and read the SAME question you have been asking over and over again.

You are suffering from amnesia, a pathetic liar like your father


Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

Dullard!

johnw47:



you still cannot quote all the questions you said i have asked you
such is u a liar:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

You still suffering from amnesia, does your father also suffer from one?

Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

Your father is also a Devil!

johnw47:



of course my Father God is not a devil oh dum one, you of course don't understang God's word. i have explained this earlier but you are way to dum to know even what day it is

the hebrew word "satan" in that verse means adversary, opponent
satan is also a name for the devil

in the posted verse it is clearly: "the angel of the LORD is an adversary/opposer of baalam
and not "the angel of the Lord is a satan/devil of baalam

you so dum, aren't you



see you later tonight oh know nothing

Dummy, the Old Testament was not written in English.

No wonder you are a brainwashed illiterate, johnw47
Satan is a hebrew word, Old Testament was written in Hebrew.

You are a dullard!, satan/devil is not a name.
It became a name/figure in your mythology!

See you anytime, anyday. Ooh indoctrinated sheep!

All you do in this forum is attacking people and their denomination, if you believe your God is the true God worship him and let other worship their own bloody atheist full of delusion.

Maynman:
If you channel this much energy on your religion and your deities, it would have been good for you.

You are worshipping a tertullian concept.

Theist, this is a public forum.
This thread you are quoting me which god are they talking about?


Tertulian concept worshipper, You are just pained about the truth of your religion and Israelite deity that you’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated with.

Mr Mediterranean fish. Go and do some research and stop basking in ignorance or else you’ll worship Abrahamaic gods till you die!

SeniorMan715:
All you do in this forum is attacking people and their denomination, if you believe your God is the true God worship him and let other worship their own bloody atheist full of delusion.

That you have brain doesn't mean you are reasonable and intelligent. Ode

Maynman:
Theist, this is a public forum.
This thread you are quoting me which god are they talking about.


Tertulian concept worshipper, You are just pained about the truth of your religion and Israelite deity that you’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated with.

Mr Mediterranean fish.

Oponu, You have no brain that’s why you suspend knowledge and bask in belief and faith.

Tertulian concept worshipper, A snake can talk right?

SeniorMan715:
That you have brain doesn't mean you are reasonable and intelligent. Ode

You claim they are worshipping deity okay you that's worshipping the true God, allow them and let them be.
You know you and your God will perish in no distance time you are tying all you can to gather more people with you delusion.

Maynman:
Theist, this is a public forum.
This thread you are quoting me which god are they talking about.


Tertulian concept worshipper, You are just pained about the truth of your religion and Israelite deity that you’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated with.

Mr Mediterranean fish.

I’m not a deity worshipper like you.
God and Deity means same thing, and it’s a title not a person.

You and your Israelite god will be destroyed with no trace very soon, you are trying to gather brainwashed sheeps like you into your cult where the use of knowledge is suspended.

Mr Mediterranean fish.

SeniorMan715:
You claim they are worshipping deity okay you that's worshipping the true God, allow them and let them be.
You know you and your God will perish in no distance time you are tying all you can to gather more people with you delusion.

Revelation 12:12

Maynman:
I’m not a deity worshipper like you.
God and Deity means same thing, and it’s a title not a person.

You and your Israelite god will be destroyed with no trace very soon, you are trying to gather brainwashed sheeps like you into your cult where the use of knowledge is suspended.

Mr Mediterranean fish.

Common sense 4:19
https://www.nairaland.com/7382665/how-revelation-got-into-bible

SeniorMan715:
Revelation 12:12

The Questions were
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

I wished you kept it simple as I now have to attend to other things you said that is NOT true!

NOTE:
You partially answered Question 1 and completely IGNORED question 2,3 and 4

jubrilcastle:


If we are to go into this definitely it will never end. Nothing I say will convince you. I hardly go into dialogue with other belief system. Just do good in this life and leave the rest.

Now to your question.
*Jesus is a man. Of course he's a man as he have all the attributes of a man. He sleeps and wakes up he eat and do every other thing men do (of which the Almighty doesn't eat, drink, sleep etc except your religion says he does otherwise. Even your Bible Jesus is described as a man in the book of acts ch 2 Vs 22 it reads "New International Version"
“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
See also in Luke 24 Vs 39 New International Version
Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.
What's Jesus trying to say here? That I'm a man and not a spirit.
The Qur'an describing Jesus as a man is 100% correct my brother nothing wrong in that.

Of course according to Islam, Jesus is 100% human (I didn't ask for what the bible says about Christ)

This is Question 1a.

jubrilcastle:

*Secondly you pointed out that Jesus is the word of Allah.
For Allah to create anything at all he only give his command which is "kun fa ya kun" which means be and it is.
It was same command he gave to Jesus to be in the womb of Mary and Jesus was. You can see how he's referred to as the word of Allah. Because it's the word of Allah that command Jesus to be in the womb of Mary. Again in your Bible you can see places where "kun fa ya kun" come to play for instance in the book of Genesis God said let there be light and there was light. That's the power of the word of Allah. Birth of Jesus Christ was a great miracle and it could not have happened if Allah does not give the word "be in the womb of virgin Mary"

1. Allah did NOT create Adam or anyone by His command. If Allah did, where is your evidence?
According to Islam, was Adam not created in a span of 40 years? Did Adam not speak before Allah finished creating him?

According to the Quran, where did Allah say BE "kun fa ya kun" to create Jesus?
Is blowing into the private part of Mary the same as "kun fa ya kun"?

This is a lie or fabrication except you can show how "kun fa ya kun" became Jesus!
2. The Question (1a.) Is Jesus the Word of Allah?
In the Qur’an, Jesus, is called Kalimat Allah, the “Word of God,”
Quran 4:171
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth.

Here Allah confirm two things
1. Jesus is his Messenger
2. Jesus is his Word
If the fact of Jesus being the Word of God is just a mere title,
1. Is it a FALSE title?
2. Who else in the universe is referred to as a "Word of God"?

jubrilcastle:

*Lastly you pointed out that Jesus is the spirit of Allah

The Quran describes Jesus to be a ‘Spirit’ proceeding from God:

"We breathed into her (Mary) from My Spirit." (Quran 21:91)

"We blew into (her womb) through Our angel." (Quran 66:12)

The soul of Jesus was a spirit created by God, brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:

"We blew into (her womb from her garment) through Our angel." (Quran 66:12)

Jesus was not a ‘part,’ ‘person,’ or ‘activity’ of God that separated and dwelled inside Mary. He is called a ‘Spirit’ from God as a symbol of respect and honor, not divinity.

Likewise, God also gives Adam this characteristic of being His spirit. God said when He ordered the angels to prostrate to Adam upon his creation.:

"So, when I have fashioned him (Adam) completely and breathed into him (Adam) the soul which I created for him, then fall down prostrating yourselves unto him." (Quran 38:72)

Quran 21:91
And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Note the words in RED
Our : (meaning Allah)
Spirit : (Singular)

Whose Spirit is Jesus?

You said: "The soul of Jesus was a spirit created by God, brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:"
How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?

You said: "Jesus was not a ‘part,’ ‘person,’ or ‘activity’ of God that separated and dwelled inside Mary. He is called a ‘Spirit’ from God as a symbol of respect and honor, not divinity."
Is the title "Spirit of God" (Ruhullah) FALSE?

jubrilcastle:

Indeed Jesus is given an honored status in the Quran and is has been given certain titles and descriptions not given to other prophets, but this in no way should cause a person to believe that Jesus was anything other than mortal. This can be summarized in the following verse in which God says:

"O People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against God, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him; believe therefore in God and His messengers, and say not, ‘Three’. Desist, it is better for you; Indeed God is only one diety; far be it from His glory that He should have a son, To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth, and God is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs." (Quran 4:171)



Please my dear brother let's try and put this to sleep. Believe in your religion and allow others do same. Thanks and God bless

You said: "Believe in your religion and allow others do same."
Unfortunately, you Muslims were the first to trespass
You Muslims said:
Christians are in Error!
Jesus did not die nor was He crucified!
Christians must convert to Islam or suffer the payment of humiliating Jizya!
When you meet Christians on the road, we should be pushed into the narrowest part!
Muslims should not initiate greetings with the Jews and Christians!

Is this not either gross hypocrisy or Taqqiya!?



You completely IGNORED questions 2, 3 and 4, I represent them again

The Questions were
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Patiently Waiting!!

Ahmad880881:
thanks your Mr questionaire cos the more you ask stupid question about Islam you would get the fact that jesus is a man and a prophet of Allah with these following characteristic of him

1 jesus was born like you were born by woman
2 he sucks his mothers breast like you did
3 he had been bathed

you can list some my friend

My question was not about wheter Jesus was Allah or not.
Let me rephrase for you.
1. Is Jesus Ruhullah?
2. Is Jesus Kalimatullah?

My Questions were extremely simple:
Was the Ruhullah born by a woman, suckled the breast of a woman and took his bath?
Was the Kalimatullah born by a woman, suckled the breast of a woman and took his bath?

How come a single personage is both Human being, the Ruhullah and is also the Kalimatullah?

Thank you

Maynman:

Dummy, go back to your texts and read the SAME question you have been asking over and over again.
You are suffering from amnesia, a pathetic liar like your father
Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?
Dullard!

weakie, u cannot quote any of the questions you keep saying i asked you over and over again, u poor atheist all you have is your false accusations and name calling

Maynman:

You still suffering from amnesia, does your father also suffer from one?
Indoctrinated sheep, Who are the authors you keep quoting and basing your miserable life on?

poor queer, u saying same nonsense over and over again unable to say anything intelligent