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TenQ:
The Questions were
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

I wished you kept it simple as I now have to attend to other things you said that is NOT true!

NOTE:
You partially answered Question 1 and completely IGNORED question 2,3 and 4



Of course according to Islam, Jesus is 100% human (I didn't ask for what the bible says about Christ)

This is Question 1a.


1. Allah did NOT create Adam or anyone by His command. If Allah did, where is your evidence?
According to Islam, was Adam not created in a span of 40 years? Did Adam not speak before Allah finished creating him?

According to the Quran, where did Allah say BE "kun fa ya kun" to create Jesus?
Is blowing into the private part of Mary the same as "kun fa ya kun"?

This is a lie or fabrication except you can show how "kun fa ya kun" became Jesus!
2. The Question (1a.) Is Jesus the Word of Allah?
In the Qur’an, Jesus, is called Kalimat Allah, the “Word of God,”
Quran 4:171
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth.

Here Allah confirm two things
1. Jesus is his Messenger
2. Jesus is his Word
If the fact of Jesus being the Word of God is just a mere title,
1. Is it a FALSE title?
2. Who else in the universe is referred to as a "Word of God"?




Quran 21:91
And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Note the words in RED
Our : (meaning Allah)
Spirit : (Singular)

Whose Spirit is Jesus?

You said: "The soul of Jesus was a spirit created by God, brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:"
How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?

You said: "Jesus was not a ‘part,’ ‘person,’ or ‘activity’ of God that separated and dwelled inside Mary. He is called a ‘Spirit’ from God as a symbol of respect and honor, not divinity."
Is the title "Spirit of God" (Ruhullah) FALSE?


You said: "Believe in your religion and allow others do same."
Unfortunately, you Muslims were the first to trespass
You Muslims said:
Christians are in Error!
Jesus did not die nor was He crucified!
Christians must convert to Islam or suffer the payment of humiliating Jizya!
When you meet Christians on the road, we should be pushed into the narrowest part!
Muslims should not initiate greetings with the Jews and Christians!

Is this not either gross hypocrisy or Taqqiya!?



You completely IGNORED questions 2, 3 and 4, I represent them again

The Questions were
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Patiently Waiting!!

jubrilcastle:
This one you are busy searching for the grave if Jesus Christ. Let's turn to the Holy and Marvelous and wonderful Qur'an and hear what it says concerning your question.

And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. [/b]God is Mighty and Wise.

-Quran 4:157-4:158[b]

So my brother man, that's why you can't find the grave of Jesus Christ anywhere. From his birth to his departure from this earth were all miraculous

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Mentally ill illiterate, bugger off!

Maynman:
Devil is not called satan.
Dullard with empty brain

jubrilcastle:
This one you are busy searching for the grave if Jesus Christ. Let's turn to the Holy and Marvelous and wonderful Qur'an and hear what it says concerning your question.

And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. [/b]God is Mighty and Wise.

-Quran 4:157-4:158[b]

So my brother man, that's why you can't find the grave of Jesus Christ anywhere. From his birth to his departure from this earth were all miraculous

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



Rev_12:9  And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Mat 4:1  Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 
Mat 4:10  Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it is written, you shall worship the Lord your God, and serve him only

the words satan and devil means adversary, opposes

the devil and satan, is also what the great dragon is called:

Rev_12:9  And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

devil
διάβολος
diabolos
dee-ab'-ol-os
a traducer; specifically Satan - false accuser, devil, slanderer.

satanas
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.

Maynman:
Common sense 4:19– Tertulian concept worshippers will worship Abrahamaic gods till they die because they lack knowledge and can’t think for themselves.
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Your jewish savior spoke hebrew and Aramaic, New Testament was written and created in Rome YEARS after your saviour died!
Satan is a hebrew word, Devil is a greek word, it became a figure in your MYTHOLOGY, it doesn’t exist outside of it
The English word dragon comes from the Greek word drakōn, which was used originally for any large serpent, and the dragon of MYTHOLOGY

johnw47:
the word satan means adversary etc
and satan is also a spirit person:

Job 2:6  So the LORD said to Satan, Behold, he is in your power, only spare his life. 
Job 2:7  Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. 


satan(hebrew)
śâṭân
saw-tawn'
an opponent; Satan, the arch enemy of good: - adversary


in the new testament(greek) satan is also called the devil:

Mat 4:1  Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil
Mat_4:10  Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it is written, you shall worship the Lord your God, and serve him only


the aramic word for the hebrew word satan is also translated as devil:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Then Yeshua was led of The Spirit of Holiness to the wilderness to be tempted by The Devil


whether it's hebrew, greek or aramic, it's talking of a person who we call
satan and the devil



1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Maynman:
The hebrew word satan means adversary and has nothing to do with “spirit” except in your mythology and others like zootranism.

johnw47:
addition to my last post:
and of course the great dragon is referring to who we also call satan and the devil


1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw47:
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Then Yeshua was led of The Spirit of Holiness to the wilderness to be tempted by The Devil

Maynman:
It’s referred to as great dragon in your MYTHOLOGY. Hebrew and Greek existed before your random books were created.
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

johnw47:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Maynman:
Aramaic is a Semitic language.
New Testament that you are quoting is written in Greek.
“Devil” is a Greek word!

johnw47:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

johnw47:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Common sense 4:19– Tertulian concept worshippers will worship Abrahamaic gods till they die because they lack knowledge and can’t think for themselves.
I can also quote random books

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool




1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Common sense 4:19– Tertulian concept worshippers will worship Abrahamaic gods till they die because they lack knowledge and can’t think for themselves.
I can also quote random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS bwahahahah

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool




1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Common sense 4:19– Tertulian concept worshippers will worship Abrahamaic gods till they die because they lack knowledge and can’t think for themselves.
I can also quote random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS bwahahahah

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Legbegbe4:19–Your father is Satan, a Rapist and a Murderer, he’s useless and only found in jewish Fictions.
I can also quote random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Maynman:
Deranged homophile, keep quoting and basing your miserable life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS
Legbegbe 4:19–Your father is Satan, a Rapist and a Murderer, he’s long dead and useless and only found in jewish Fictions.
Your father, satan is a Liar, The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite and it’s lies that killed him and soon his followers!
I can also quote random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



James 1:8
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways

johnw47:
james 1:8
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways

TenQ:
The problem with Islam is that ALL your books are sufficient to destroyed the very foundation of Islam without a need to step out one bit into secular or historical sources.

Qur'an:
-The sun set in the dark murky waters.
-Children created from the semen from the backbone and ribcage of the humans.
-Hail hauled from mountains in the sky etc etc
-Allah legalised Prostitution

Allah should at least know basic science

Hadiths:
The embarrassment here is so much that Muslims grade the hadiths as Sahih, Hassan, Daif etc
Some Muslims even call themselves "Qur'an Only".
Muslims have to cherry pick their own hadiths


Tafsirs:
Attempts to lie to get out of problems created by both the Qur'an and the hadiths. Some of them are also so damning that Muslims reject them.

Muslim Standard Narratives:
Lies Muslims have memorised to cover-up the lies and deficiencies of Islam
-Mohammed is the most perfect human to be emulated (and this prophet coveted his adopted sons. Wife)!
-there is only one Qur'an and it is perfectly preserved - Now, we see the Hafs Qur'an, the Warsh Qur'an, and at least 24 other Qurans)
-Pure monotheistic religion and yet they kiss the black stone


Oga lawyer, your violent characters and your books are enough to discredit Islam.


Summary:
Muslims can lie even for Shaitan! It's your nature to lie and be violent. Your hadiths is a prove of this nature of yours.

YOUR QUESTION
Your attempts to explain my questions will FORCE you to THINK and REASON!
Why would Allah legalise prostitution in the Qur'an?
How did Mohammed mix up Shaitan and Jubril?


What you do as the effect of reasoning is a different matter entirely.

Maynman:
Shaku shaku 6:66— a yahweh worshipper is a mentally ill illiterate just like his jewish deity.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Rev 20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Maynman:
Legbegbe 4:19–20– Your father is Satan, a Rapist and a Murderer, he’s long dead and useless and only found in jewish Fictions.
Your father, satan is a Liar, The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite and it’s lies that killed him and soon his brainwashed followers!
Shaku shaku 6:66— a yahweh worshipper is a mentally ill illiterate just like his jewish deity