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Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 8:06am On Oct 28, 2022
Maynman:
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.
Oaf. Damnation and Sorrow lover, all you got are forged and plagiarised books used by damned slaves cheesy
Doomed and unfortunate jannyboy son of a smelling momma, you’re full of resentment, pain and agony which comes from your imbecil.e FATHER, yahweh , his DULL HOLY SPIRIT and your smelling momma wink
Surely, it’s a only an UNFORTUNATE JEWISH SLAVE that will blaspheme against me the owner of your father life which i can take anytime.
Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Wakanda 5:4— because they are basing their miserable lifes on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS they and their family will be unfortunate till DEATH!
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



u dummy cannot think of anything new to say
all you have is the same old copy and paste lies


here's some copy and paste truth for you:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 8:10am On Oct 28, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.


johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


u dummy cannot think of anything new to say
all you have is the same old copy and paste lies


here's some copy and paste truth for you:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Damnation and Sorrow lover, all you got are forged and plagiarised books used by damned slaves, you are a worthless slave, jews control your life!


Here’s what my holy bible says about you worthless slave, son of a smelling momma cheesy
Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 8:20am On Oct 28, 2022
Maynman:
cheesy
Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool




Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 8:24am On Oct 28, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool




Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Condemned jannyboy, son of a smelling momma cheesy

Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.


Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 8:48am On Oct 28, 2022
Maynman:
cheesy
Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 8:51am On Oct 28, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.
Oaf. Damnation and Sorrow lover, all you got are

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Doomed and unfortunate jannyboy son of a smelling momma, you’re full of resentment, pain and agony which comes from your imbecil.e FATHER, yahweh , his DULL HOLY SPIRIT and your smelling momma wink

Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by fawaz050(m): 9:34am On Oct 28, 2022
TenQ:
Then, please answer the question below?

Muslims have been doing their best to avoid translating the

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?
This Aayah is not in Qur'an or was not stated as such.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 10:01am On Oct 28, 2022
Jer_33 Give thanks to the LORD of hosts, For the LORD is good, For His lovingkindness is everlasting
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 10:38am On Oct 28, 2022
Maynman:
your imbecil.e FATHER, yahweh , his DULL HOLY SPIRIT wink
Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 10:46am On Oct 28, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.


johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Surely, it’s a only an UNFORTUNATE JEWISH SLAVE that will blaspheme against me the owner of your father life which i can take anytime.

Wakanda 5:4— because they are basing their miserable lifes on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS they and their family will be unfortunate till DEATH!

Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.


Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 11:00am On Oct 28, 2022
Our Good Friend TenQ

REMEMBER OUR GOOD OLD FRIEND THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT

I thought you were banned but I can see you posted something
Can you recall that despicable, shameless and immoral friend of yours who used technicality to win a rape case. In your own understanding, he is not bothered about the truth. The TRUTH does not concern him but winning argument. In short he LIED TO WIN AN ARGUMENT. I find that despicable too and yhwh bears me witness to that.

Now the opportunity beckons on you to tell the world that you are different from your friend, notwithstanding birds of a feather flock together. Show the world THAT YOU ARE NOT A LIAR . Let the world know that you are after the Truth and Not win argument as you rightly said and to which agree. How would you do that. Very simple:

- You have asked me for the meaning of 'Injeel' and whether it is understood as a book or compilation of books. Not just that. You told me to cite references.

- I took up challenge and I called Cambridge dictionary into the witness box and it translated it as 'one of the four books... . That implies it is a book. INNIT ?

- I called our beloved yhwh's book into the witness box and it clearly showed that injil is referred to as just one book. I even distinguished it with the Acts of Apostles and one of Apostle Paul's letter.

- Now YOU HAVE ALLEGED AS FACT THAT '...The word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible called Gospel and even followed it up with a question that 'If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) ...

- Apparently, you have alleged that Arab Christians collectively call the first 4 books (Matthew, Mark, Lile and John) as Injeel not the plural form.

- ALL I ASK YOU IS A PIECE OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE TO BACK-UP YOUR CLAIM. . Just one credible piece of evidence. If I had alleged without proof, you have been shouting Taqiya up and down. But here you are, lying through your teeth!

AGAIN, REMEMBER OUR GOOD FRIEND TENQ THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT... DON'T BE LIKE THOSE YEHOSHUA WAS REFERRING TO IN JOHN 8:44 AS CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL WHO LIES. PLEASE REDEEM YOURSELF TENQ!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 11:54am On Oct 28, 2022
TenQ:
Then, please answer the question below?

Muslims have been doing their best to avoid translating the

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?
Fawaz050 Please ask TenQ on my behalf (quoting me) that why should you honestly translate the Arabic sentence when there appears to be irrefutable proof that TenQ has lied on a previous occasion? If he has lied to translate just one word in Arabic, what gives us the assurance the he would not lie in translating a sentence ? Was he HONEST when he translated Injeel to four books when it is one (because he knew the implication of his admission on the conclusion)? What evidence does he have for it?

He responds everyday BUT since I caught him lying, he has been quiet. You made me cite references and that challenged me to proof my assertion. As far as this forum is concerned, I will pursue you on every post to show that TENQ is a discredited liar not worthy to be engaged until you SHOW PROOF!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 1:02pm On Oct 28, 2022
fawaz050:
This Aayah is not in Qur'an or was not stated as such.
I never said it was an ayah of the Qur'an. It is just an Arabic text.

The only reason Muslims have a problem with it is that if followed up, it reveals a deep Deception!

So, Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 1:21pm On Oct 28, 2022
Unfortunately, I received another ban less than 24 hours after coming out of one.

Your lies and ranting about me telling lies is UNFORTUNATE tactics to deviate from the CORE issues. If you truely feel I told you a LIE, Post My Quotes as a response to your Quotes.


I wonder why you think that volumes of words will free you from the quagmire you have fallen into.

RESPOND to the QUESTIONS if you are not of Shaitan!

LegalWolf:
WELCOME BACK OUR GOOD FRIEND, TENQ

PRELIMINARY POINTS

You said said ALL these questions are not new. We have gone too far for you to be lying like our discredited, shameless and unapologetic liar friend that goes with the moniker sixfiguresmart. I engaged you specifically to show your hypocrisy (which I can still tolerate). But lying is just out of it. Point to where you have asked me question 1,2, 3 and 7huh on this platform! All of them!

Just one and I will be waiting.

REMEMBER THAT WE BOTH ARE AFTER THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT....ISN'T IT?

Now to your questions. All I see is utter mumbling and rumbling to accept the idi0cy of your logic and fallacy of your claims. The truth stares in the face and you want to avoid it. But you would not as far as I am alive.

FIRST LINE OF ARGUMENT

The takeaway from all I am about to say here is as follows:
- Except in the post I am referring to, this is the FIRST TIME you are insinuating that the term Injeel predates Islam in our engagement.
- The question you asked me were as follows ' ...What does the word Injeel mean? Is it a book or a compilation of books?
Please cite references . '
. I am quoting you verbatim!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yhwh bears me witness that I quoted you verbatim grin grin grin
- And I took on the challenge by citing two online dictionaries which you can check that Injeel is translated as Gospel.
- Not just that, I told you that the Cambridge Dictionary that I cited translated the arabic Injil (using their Arabic letters Alif Lam Alif Nun Jim and Lam) to Gospel.
- Cambridge went further to state that it is "one of the four books in the Bible that tells the life of Jesus Christ...". (bolded by me). This is the link (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-arabic/gospel).
- Have I answered your questions as you asked me? Have I cited my sources? Was I the one who wrote the Cambridge English Online Dictionaryhuhhuhhuhhuh
- Remember, our good friend TenQ, that I said the Gospel is understood as a book which cambridge my source has confirmed. And also remember that I said gospel is translated in Arabic bible as Injil.
- Just to further destroy your point, take a look at the Gospel according to Matthew here [

      ] (i am finding difficult copying arabic text to Nairaland). It is on this site - https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/01_Matthew.pdf

- And they repeated the same thing in the other three books
Mark: https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/02_Mark.pdf
Luke: https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/03_Luke.pdf
John: https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/04_John.pdf

Now compare to
Acts of the Apostle: https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/05_Acts.pdf
or
Paul's letter to the Thessalonians: https://www.arabicbible.com/images/stories/sections/bible/Parallel/13_1_Thessalonians.pdf

- the point is: did you see injil in any of the compared?
- Question being: was I the one who wrote the arabic bible online too? or are they not credible sources as well?
- The final point being that does that not establish that gospel is a book and not a collection of book?

JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE SO EVERYONE CAN SEE. YOU MADE A CLAIM AND CHALLENGED ME TO IT. I TOOK YOUR CHALLENGE AND I ACCEPTED IT LIKE EVERY HONEST AND TRUTHFUL MUSLIM WOULD DO. IT IS LEFT FOR YOU TO:

1. EITHER BRING EVIDENCE WHICH CONTRADICTS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT INJIL IS NOT GOSPEL IN ARABIC; AND IT MEANS MULTIPLE CANONS IN ARABIC OR

2. DISCEREDIT MY SOURCES/REFERENCES AS NOT BEING CREDIBLE ENOUGH.

BARRISTER TENQ, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL YAHWEH OR YEHOSHUA INTO THE WITNESS BOX AND LEAD EVIDENCE TO CONTRADICT LEGALWOLF'S ARGUMENT? grin grin grin
LOL!

SECOND LINE OF ARGUMENT

This jointly addresses your 'facts' and 'about the injeel'. All you just said is mumbling and does not help your case Barrister TenQ. Let me reproduce the substance below:

- You assert that 'the word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible called Gospel (wherein is a collection of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ). .
- My first question is: where is your proof for this. You asked me to cite references which I copiously did! Why making baseless assumption without evidence. Barrister TenQ, hope you know that he who asserts must prove. Or is your law now rusty? grin grin grin

- My second question is: are you in anyway insinuating that the first four books are collectively known as Injil by Arab Christians?

- If that is the case, are you attempting to say that Injil does not have a plural form in Arabic? This is not even theological question but a linguistic one. Please can you provide your answer so your position is clear in my head

THIRD LINE OF ARGUMENT

- Barrister TenQ, things are not always two sided. Because something is not white does not necessarily mean it is black.

- This is a direct response to your question ' Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer

- I was not the one who made reference to the book of John to prove that the prophet was prophesied in that Book.

- YOU WERE THE ONE WHO FIRST TOLD ME IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT MUSLIMS DID . Or weren't you? Did I make that claim? yhwh bears me witness!

- And my response was I do not agree or deny that Muslims make that reference. Was that not my answer?

- So why on this earth would I look for something that was not my claim to start with. Many Muslims have made claims and it lies SQUARELY ON THEIR TABLE TO DEFEND THEIR CLAIMS AND NOT MINE

- 'read my lips', it is not my business to defend their claim. Or are you trying to tell me that you defend all Christians claims?

- And your conclusion is even baseless. ...failure is a proof that I tell a lie with my answer... . You finished from a state school and they are generally more expensive than Federal Schools from the North where I finished from. Didn't they teach you logic ?

- Now to your personal question 9. Your premise is flawed and your logic laughable. I have made this point abundantly clear. What the Quran said in 7:157 is in the Torah and INJIL. Emphasis here is Torah and Injil and not the book of Jews and Christians as you have translated it
- When we talk of Torah, we all know what Torah is. Is that the same for gospelhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh As far back as the second century, there were as many as 40 different Gospels in circulation. Do you want evidence for this assertion?

FOURTH LINE OF ARGUMENT

11 - 14

I have given you the explanation in previous posts and all this is an attempt to run away from my previous question. Please go read my last three (direct posts and rejoinders) and come back to tell me which of the answers I provided in response to these your questions you did not understand!


REMEMBER OUR GOOD FRIEND TENQ THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUTH MUCH MORE THAN WINNING ARGUMENT. YHWH AND YEHOSHUA BEARS ME WITNESS. SO, PLEASE TRUTHFULLY AND HONESTLY ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN HIGHLIGH
The above noise is what you get when you allow Muslims to escape answering Questions that would have solved major problems of comprehension along the road.


Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LegalWolf, I INSIST that you answer ALL these questions one by one.

PRELUDE:
The Qur'an agrees that
1. Jesus is a Man (Human and a Prophet)
2. Jesus is the Word of Allah (Kalimatullah)
3. Jesus is the Spirit of Allah (Ruhullah)



INITIAL QUESTIONS
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?


ABOUT THE INJEEL
1. Is it true or is it false that the term Injeel predates Islam?
2. If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?
3. Do Muslims have any shred of evidence to show that Jesus wrote any book?
(Jesus did ministry for only THREE years). If He did, where is it or its remaining fragments?
4. Does Allah know if the people of the book have more than three books namely Taurat, Zabur and Injeel as part of their scripture?
5. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were ALREADY corrupted, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book.
6. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were just THREE, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book and not specify to them which book?
7. What name did your prophet call the BOOK of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel and What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses?


ABOUT THE BIBLE
8. I gave a challenge:
Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer.
9. I then followed up with a PERSONAL Question to You LegalWolf
Allah says in the Quran that Mohammed's name is found written in the books of the Jews and Christians (Quran 7:157)
a. Is this a TRUE or FALSE statement by Allah?
b. If the above is TRUE, LegalWolf, where can the reference to Mohammed be found in the books of the Christians?
c. If the Mohammed is NOT Referenced by the books of the Christians, did Allah tell a lie?

10. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
My Questions again:
11. Can you prove that the Scriptures Allah was referring to in the Quran had gone into extinction or Allah believed that the books were still with the Jews and Christians?
12. If the books were lost, why would Allah himself give the title "People of the Book" to Jews and Christians?
13. Did your prophet Muhammad make judgement of stoning an adulteress by asking the Jews to refer to the Torah (remember when a Jew covered the word stoning in the Torah...LOL!)?


All these Questions are NOT new: but you avoided answering.


Make the answers short please!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 1:27pm On Oct 28, 2022
LegalWolf:
Fawaz050 Please ask TenQ on my behalf (quoting me) that why should you honestly translate the Arabic sentence when there appears to be irrefutable proof that TenQ has lied on a previous occasion? If he has lied to translate just one word in Arabic, what gives us the assurance the he would not lie in translating a sentence ? Was he HONEST when he translated Injeel to four books when it is one (because he knew the implication of his admission on the conclusion)? What evidence does he have for it?

He responds everyday BUT since I caught him lying, he has been quiet. You made me cite references and that challenged me to proof my assertion. As far as this forum is concerned, I will pursue you on every post to show that TENQ is a discredited liar not worthy to be engaged until you SHOW PROOF!
Are you AFRAID that Fawaz050 will see what was meant to be kept secret?

A harmless Arabic phrase (the language of Allah) is disturbing you!? Amazing!

How come you RAN AWAY from Answering the Question?




AGAIN

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?


إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?


I expect you digression as usual!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 1:48pm On Oct 28, 2022
TenQ:
Unfortunately, I received another ban less than 24 hours after coming out of one.

Your lies and ranting about me telling lies is UNFORTUNATE tactics to deviate from the CORE issues. If you truely feel I told you a LIE, Post My Quotes as a response to your Quotes.


I wonder why you think that volumes of words will free you from the quagmire you have fallen into.

RESPOND to the QUESTIONS if you are not of Shaitan!


The above noise is what you get when you allow Muslims to escape answering Questions that would have solved major problems of comprehension along the road.


Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LegalWolf, I INSIST that you answer ALL these questions one by one.

PRELUDE:
The Qur'an agrees that
1. Jesus is a Man (Human and a Prophet)
2. Jesus is the Word of Allah (Kalimatullah)
3. Jesus is the Spirit of Allah (Ruhullah)



INITIAL QUESTIONS
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?


ABOUT THE INJEEL
1. Is it true or is it false that the term Injeel predates Islam?
2. If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?
3. Do Muslims have any shred of evidence to show that Jesus wrote any book?
(Jesus did ministry for only THREE years). If He did, where is it or its remaining fragments?
4. Does Allah know if the people of the book have more than three books namely Taurat, Zabur and Injeel as part of their scripture?
5. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were ALREADY corrupted, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book.
6. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were just THREE, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book and not specify to them which book?
7. What name did your prophet call the BOOK of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel and What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses?


ABOUT THE BIBLE
8. I gave a challenge:
Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer.
9. I then followed up with a PERSONAL Question to You LegalWolf
Allah says in the Quran that Mohammed's name is found written in the books of the Jews and Christians (Quran 7:157)
a. Is this a TRUE or FALSE statement by Allah?
b. If the above is TRUE, LegalWolf, where can the reference to Mohammed be found in the books of the Christians?
c. If the Mohammed is NOT Referenced by the books of the Christians, did Allah tell a lie?

10. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
My Questions again:
11. Can you prove that the Scriptures Allah was referring to in the Quran had gone into extinction or Allah believed that the books were still with the Jews and Christians?
12. If the books were lost, why would Allah himself give the title "People of the Book" to Jews and Christians?
13. Did your prophet Muhammad make judgement of stoning an adulteress by asking the Jews to refer to the Torah (remember when a Jew covered the word stoning in the Torah...LOL!)?


All these Questions are NOT new: but you avoided answering.


Make the answers short please!
MY QUOTE

'...Are you telling me that when the word gospel is mentioned (which is the direct translation of Injil), this is the book we are talking about?

YOUR RESPONSE

...What does the word Injeel mean? Is it a book or a compilation of books?
Please cite references .


MY FOLLOW-UP QUOTE

My very simple question is still begging for an explanation I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source. Ran through a couple of Arabic Dictionaries here:

https://www.lexilogos.com/english/arabic_dictionary.htm#;

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-arabic/bible?q=Bible (surprisingly, I think I saw a dictionary source where injil was translated as one of the four canon books of the NT. Not too sure on this.)

if you don't mind I share the link of an Arabic Bible App to you translating Each Gospel as Injil.

In fact, I just got to learn what Bible is called in Arabic (I used to erroneously call the fraudulent and dubious NT canon for Injil grin). So there you have your answer!


FOLLOW-UP RESPONSE

Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.
FACTS
The use of the word Injeel predates Islam.
The word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible
called Gospel (wherein is a collection of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ). [/i]
.....
[u] If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel)
and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?

MY SECOND FOLLOW-UP QUESTION
.... where is your proof for this. You asked me to cite references which I copiously did! Why making baseless assumption without evidence. Barrister TenQ, hope you know that he who asserts must prove. Or is your law now rusty?

MY SIMPLE QUESTION RESTATED IS WHAT IS YOUR PROOF THAT INJEEL IS A TERM BY ARAB CHRISTIANS FOR THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS OF THE BIBLE CALLED GOSPEL (NOT GOSPELS OR THE PLURAL OF INJEEL)?

YOUR SECOND RESPONSE
huhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh?

YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS THAT I HAVE TAKEN MY TIME TO REPRODUCE WHAT WE BOTH SAID. ALL YOU NEED DO RIGHT NOW IS TO ADDUCE CREDIBLE EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CLAIM
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 1:58pm On Oct 28, 2022
TenQ:
Are you AFRAID that Fawaz050 will see what was meant to be kept secret?

A harmless Arabic phrase (the language of Allah) is disturbing you!? Amazing!

How come you RAN AWAY from Answering the Question?




AGAIN

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?


إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?


I expect you digression as usual!
TenQ yhwh bears me witness that you ostensibly lied that Injil is a term used by Arab Christians for the first four books of their bible called Gospel (not gospels) . I have adduced evidence from Cambridge and Arabic bible that testified it is one books and is not a term for the first four books (but each of the four books) of the Bible. All you need do is redeem yourself.

The implication is serious. IF IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU LIED IN ORDER TO TRANSLATE A WORD TO SUIT YOUR NARRATIVE, WHAT GIVES US THE ASSURANCE THAT YOU WOULD NOT LIE TO TRANSLATE A SENTENCE
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 8:54pm On Oct 28, 2022
PART ONE OF FOUR
I only decided to respond to your reverse psychology of slander to cover-up for your deficiency in tact, logic , truthful answers and SHAME due to the fact that the Qur'an has been shown to FAIL woefully and you Muslims have to PROTECT Allah and his Messenger from the revelation of the TRUTH .

Don't forget that this is NOT the first time you have done this kind of thing (Remember I busted you once because of this kind of lies).

LegalWolf:
Our Good Friend TenQ

REMEMBER OUR GOOD OLD FRIEND THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT

I thought you were banned but I can see you posted something
Can you recall that despicable, shameless and immoral friend of yours who used technicality to win a rape case. In your own understanding, he is not bothered about the truth. The TRUTH does not concern him but winning argument. In short he LIED TO WIN AN ARGUMENT. I find that despicable too and yhwh bears me witness to that.
There are several kinds of ban
1. TOTAL BAN (you are prevented from posting on ALL NL sections)
2. PARTIAL BAN (You are only prevented from posting on the section where your strike emanated from)

You will NOTE that You LegalWolf is the one who is AFRAID of the TRUTH otherwise, how can we account for the more than a DOZEN direct questions I asked you that you AVOIDED answering?

LegalWolf:
Now the opportunity beckons on you to tell the world that you are different from your friend, notwithstanding birds of a feather flock together. Show the world THAT YOU ARE NOT A LIAR . Let the world know that you are after the Truth and Not win argument as you rightly said and to which agree. How would you do that. Very simple:
Okay!
This might actually show that you LegalWolf is the one bending words to suit another purpose!

LegalWolf:
- You have asked me for the meaning of 'Injeel' and whether it is understood as a book or compilation of books. Not just that. You told me to cite references.

- I took up challenge and I called Cambridge dictionary into the witness box and it translated it as 'one of the four books... . That implies it is a book. INNIT ?

- I called our beloved yhwh's book into the witness box and it clearly showed that injil is referred to as just one book. I even distinguished it with the Acts of Apostles and one of Apostle Paul's letter.

- Now YOU HAVE ALLEGED AS FACT THAT '...The word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible called Gospel and even followed it up with a question that 'If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) ...

- Apparently, you have alleged that Arab Christians collectively call the first 4 books (Matthew, Mark, Lile and John) as Injeel not the plural form.

- ALL I ASK YOU IS A PIECE OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE TO BACK-UP YOUR CLAIM. . Just one credible piece of evidence. If I had alleged without proof, you have been shouting Taqiya up and down. But here you are, lying through your teeth!
The first time I asked you this question was on page 11 of this thread on NL .
TenQ:
....
By the way:
1. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
2. What does the word Injeel mean? Is it a book or a compilation of books?
Please cite references
Your response to this post above COMPLETELY ignored the questions above (check it out)
I responded with the post below citing the summary of my three witnesses and the fact that you ignored answering my question!

TenQ:
When you totally deliberately ignore answering Questions, where do you think it will lead you?
..
I think I can comfortably close my case with you.

Your aim was to find out whether the Book of John is book of divine creation or any of the books of the New Testament.
...


I even dared you to find just ONE Islamic source that deny this. All the personal questions I asked you concerning this you DELIBERATELY avoided answering.

Conclusion:
If the book of John was not of Divine origin, why are Muslims looking for [b]Prophecies about Mohammed in it. Why not find Mohammed in Shakespeare's books?[/b]

2. ALLAH as SECOND WITNESS:
-Allah himself said he makes no distinction between the books of the Jews and the Christians.
-Allah affirmed that at least as of the time of Mohammed, the books were with the Jews and the Christians. The books were within their hands
-Allah implored Mohammed to consult with the people of the book concerning revelations of the Qur'an.
-Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular), meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost.

What is the name of the book given to Suleiman?

SMH!
I noted that Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular), meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost.

And I asked(as evidence):
What is the name of the book given to Suleiman?

Your response ignored even the last question of the name of the book of Suleiman.

I repeated Question again in my next post.

TenQ:
Is the book of John part of the books of the Christians?

The Question is
1. What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses? Is it a single book? NO!
It is a Library of FIVE books.
2. What name does the Qur'an give to the books of the Christians? Injeel! But the Injeel is ALL the books of the Christians!

The fact that Mohammed is ignorant of the fact that the books of the Christians is a collection of Books just as he did not know that the Torah is a collection of FIVE books is the problem of you Muslims.
Check your Response (end of [b]page 11 [/b]whether you responded or not as usual).


END OF PART ONE
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 8:54pm On Oct 28, 2022
PART TWO OF FOUR
LegalWolf:
Our Good Friend TenQ

Then the LegalWolf GAMBIT of LIES was initiated by you.
Page 12 (First Post).


You opened with a blatant LIE highlighted in YELLOW

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ,

My very simple question is still begging for an explanation I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source. Ran through a couple of Arabic Dictionaries here:



In fact, I just got to learn what Bible is called in Arabic (I used to erroneously call the fraudulent and dubious NT canon for Injil grin). So there you have your answer!

Remember, you claim you do not want to win an argument and you are more concerned with the truth. At least, you have conceded I was truthful when I gave a direct translation of Q7:157 and you even said you would never hire a lawyer like me because it is automatic loss. Maybe because I stick faithfully to my profession of being an Officer of the Court who instinctively seek the truth always.

Now as you will remember in Proverbs 12:22 which admonish that a lying lip is an abomination to the Lord. And your quest is for Truth and not winning an argument. I ask as follows:

- Having cited two dictionaries which directly translates Injil to the Gospel and not the Bible, DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?

- Again, remember you are for the Truth and not to win an argument. If you doubt that, can you prove that in Arabic, Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.

- Finally, my question begs for an answer which you have not even attempted to answer is reproduced below:

Remember, my good friend TenQ, that this is your claim:
1. Quran 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is mentioned in the Gospel. (Premise 1)
2. You Claim that Muslims look up to the book of John as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in the Gospel (Premise 2)
3. Therefore, the Book of John is a creation of a divine being (Conclusion).


It goes without saying that If there is another gospel which Muslims look up to as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in it, that Gospel should also qualify as a word of God. This is me simply restating your logic. So to ask again, BASED ON YOUR LOGIC AND PREMISE stated above, ARE YOU PREPARED TO ALSO ACCEPT AN APOCRYPAL GOSPEL WHICH FULFILS YOUR SECOND PREMISE AS A BOOK OF GOD'?
FIRST OF THE MAJOR BLATANT LIES by LegalWolf.
1. You claimed that:
"My very simple question is still begging for an explanation
If your very first Question is STILL begging for explanation...
I challenge you to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you have the honour of being Shaitan's assistant in the production of LIES!
2. You claimed that:
"I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source."
I challenge you to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you are the biggest LIAR on Nairaland.

3. As if the level of comprehension of the English language is POOR, you made a statement!

DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?


When did you ask me a question that WARRANTED [b]my conceding to YOUR position? Can you quote the PAGE and Reference if you are NOT a LIAR?[/b]

As usual, you set up a Strawman:
Quoting you
Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.

Who is the LIAR here?

4. Then, you went on to another Strawman Argument by misrepresenting point 3 (which I corrected in my next post)

Remember, my good friend TenQ, that this is your claim:
1. Quran 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is mentioned in the Gospel. (Premise 1)
2. You Claim that Muslims look up to the book of John as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in the Gospel (Premise 2)
3. Therefore, the Book of John is a creation of a divine being (Conclusion).
Can you Quote me when I presented your point 3 highlighted in RED?

Is your conclusion here NOT a blatant LIE!!?
If it not, I challenge you to quote me!
If you can't prove this conclusion you are the biggest Liar and son of your father satan!

I CHALLENGE YOU ONCE AGAIN TO PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE OF THE TRUTH.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 10:31pm On Oct 28, 2022
kiss
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 10:56pm On Oct 28, 2022
PART THREE OF FOUR
LegalWolf:
Our Good Friend TenQ
I am ashamed for you.
A LIAR from the Religion of LIES!


I shake my head.

This is the second time I am BURSTING your lies here on Nairaland!
Your case may be after all irredeemable

Remember, I have walked you from PAGE 11 through PAGE 12 and in just one post, we find several LIES to which I've Challenged YOU to DENY of you can. (Just quote and give the Nairaland PAGE as evidence). The Yorubas will call you OPURO! Your lies can wake up the dead!

Still on page 12, my response corrected your Taqqiyya as your purported CONCLUSION of YOUR PREMISE 1 and PREMISE 2 below (WITHIN your OWN POST) to tell you that I see through your Deception!

3.
Therefore, the Book of John is a creation of a divine being

Taqqiyya as usual: I said why would Muslims look for fulfilment of prophecies about Mohammed in a book of the Christians they consider as NOT divine?. Would you Muslims look for prophecies about Mohammed or Islam in the works of Shakespear!?
(Conclusion).
Tell me that I DID NOT CORRECT your LIES!?

You then responded with a barrage of Strawman Lies below


LegalWolf:
........
Answer my questions HONESTLY and TRUTHFULLY as follows:

- Having cited two dictionaries which directly translates Injil to the Gospel and not the Bible, DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?

- Again, remember you are for the Truth and not to win an argument. If you doubt that, can you prove that in Arabic, Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.

- let me put it in another way, DO YOU AGREE THAT THE 'GOSPEL' ACCORDING TO MARK, MATTHEW, JOHN ETC... IS TRANSLATED IN ARABIC BIBLES AS INJIL? . If not, what other term apart from Injil do Christians use to translate 'Gospel' in Arabic Bible?

Remember, my good friend TenQ, that this is your claim:
1. Quran 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is mentioned in the Gospel. (Premise 1)
2. You claim that Muslims look up to the book of John as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in the Gospel (Premise 2)
3. Therefore, the Book of John is a creation of a divine being (Conclusion).
Highlighted in RED:
You said:
DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?
1. You repeated the Word Concede as if YOU were the one who asked me the Question AND that I should concede that INJEEL is Not the Compendium called the Bible.

Please Where did I CLAIM that the Injeel is the Bible?
(The worst I could do was to claim that Mohammed does not know any other book of the Christians other than Injeel and therefore Injeel to Mohammed would be the Book of the Christians).
Please provide the EVIDENCE where TenQ claimed that Injeel was the Bible or forever admit that you are a chronic LIAR!

I then posted
TenQ:
Your incoherence coupled with the length of your pitch is disturbing. I almost cannot feel the direction of your pitch. I will bring out two of your questions


1.” DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?”

I asked you a question and you turn it around without answering the question as if I was implying that Gospel doesn't translate into Injeel. If you have answered the question, I would have asked you what does Gospel mean? For Injeel is meaningless without the meaning of Gospel. Therefore, I asked again, what does Injeel mean?


Why do you keep up repeating a LIE as my conclusion in your quote below (even after I corrected you)?

The best Muslims do is to set up a Strawman argument. SMH!


1. Did your prophet know that Jesus wrote no books?
2. If you claim that Jesus wrote a book, what is your evidence?
3. What name did your prophet call the book of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel?


The ignorance of your prophet made him not to know that Christian Bible contain several books.


Mohammed in his ignorance called the book of the Christians Injeel just as he didn't know that the Torah consists of FIVE separate books!

I can't help Mohammed's ignorance. Your Strawman argument cannot work on me!


YOUR OTHER POST:
You should ask Mohammed:
"Which book was the Christians of his time used"!

A confused Illiterate was Mohammed, how could he know better: no wonder!

He is best at SEDUCING the Wife of His adopted Son!



Using your wonderful logic:
Mohammed is found written in the Torah and the Gospels, yet they have found Mohamedeen in book the Songs of Solomon (who h was earlier ascribed to be pornographic)!



Can you TRUTHFULLY say that the people of the book (singular) have ONLY THREE Books as Scriptures
Injeel, Zabur and Taurat ?

I won't be surprised if you tell a lie or ignore the question as usual!
Note my quotes
"If you have answered the question, I would have asked you what does Gospel mean? For Injeel is meaningless without the meaning of Gospel. Therefore, I asked again, what does Injeel mean?"

Did I not accuse you of repeating a Strawman Lie against me?
Why do you keep up repeating a LIE as my conclusion in your quote below (even after I corrected you)?

I then made this claim:
"The ignorance of your prophet made him not to know that Christian Bible contain several books.

Mohammed in his ignorance called the book of the Christians Injeel just as he didn't know that the Torah consists of FIVE separate books!

I can't help Mohammed's ignorance. Your Strawman argument cannot work on me!"


Highlighted in BLUE:
You Said:
If you doubt that, can you prove that in Arabic, Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.
Where did TenQ EVER claimed that Injeel is the ONLY term used to refer to the bible and no other!?
If I didn't claim a point, why would I be required to prove it? This is another classic example of a Strawman argument! A LIE presented as representing the truth from the opposition so that you can have something easy to fight with?
[b]Give me a quote or forever admit that just as Allah, you are one of the best Deciever


Highlighted in Yellow:
You repeated your lies of my purported CONCLUSION number 3 which I had corrected you for on my last post to you.

If you didn't repeat this LIE, give me a QUOTE as Evidence!

Your response was so weak and lame that :
I then asked you these Questions (for which you've given no response till now)

Can you TRUTHFULLY say that the people of the book (singular) have ONLY THREE Books as Scriptures
Injeel, Zabur and Taurat ?

I won't be surprised if you tell a lie or ignore the question as usual!


NOTE HOW MANY LIES you have spoken within a short space of TIME!?

You responded with lots of COPY-PASTE repeating your lies except that you finally corrected ITEM 3 of the Premise 1 and 2 to read exactly what my item 3 was!

Remember, my good friend TenQ, that this is your claim:
1. Quran 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is mentioned in the Gospel. (Premise 1)
2. You claim that Muslims look up to the book of John as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in the Gospel (Premise 2)
3. Therefore, why would Muslims look for fulfilment of prophecies about Mohammed in a book of the Christians they consider as NOT divine?. Would you Muslims look for prophecies about Mohammed or Islam in the works of Shakespear!?
(Conclusion).
[highlight]
You finally ADMITTED to LIEING in the Number 3. Why were you LIEING in the First Place?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 10:57pm On Oct 28, 2022
PART FOUR OF FOUR

LegalWolf:
Our Good Friend TenQ
When your lies were getting close to being outrightly irritating, I posted this below to set the record straight within one POST!

TenQ:
Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.
FACTS
-The use of the word Injeel predates Islam.
-The word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible called Gospel (wherein is a collection of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ).
-According to the Arab Christians, their Injeel is translated from the word Gospel which mean “Good News”!
Similarly, the Jews also have the first five books of the Tanakh called the Torah containing the Life and Ministry of the Patriarchs, the history of Gods relation with the tribe of Israel, the Laws of Moses and the behaviour of the actors therein.
-According to Islam (copying the name from the Arab Christians), the term Injeel is a SINGLE book purportedly given to Jesus.
-The Injeel is the Book (singular as used by Allah) of the Christians as Mohammed NEVER insinuated that the Christians use other scriptures. This is exactly the same way Allah calls ALL the book of the Jews just by two books Torah and Zabur.



The above noise is what you get when you allow Muslims to escape answering Questions that would have solved major problems of comprehension along the road.

LegalWolf, I INSIST that you answer ALL these questions one by one.
ABOUT THE INJEEL
1. Is it true or is it false that the term Injeel predates Islam?
2. If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?
3. Do Muslims have any shred of evidence to show that Jesus wrote any book?
(Jesus did ministry for only THREE years). If He did, where is it or its remaining fragments?
4. Does Allah know if the people of the book have more than three books namely Taurat, Zabur and Injeel as part of their scripture?
5. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were ALREADY corrupted, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book.
6. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were just THREE, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book and not specify to them which book?
7. What name did your prophet call the BOOK of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel and What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses?


ABOUT THE BIBLE
8. I gave a challenge:
Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer.
9. I then followed up with a PERSONAL Question to You LegalWolf
Allah says in the Quran that Mohammed's name is found written in the books of the Jews and Christians (Quran 7:157)
a. Is this a TRUE or FALSE statement by Allah?
b. If the above is TRUE, LegalWolf, where can the reference to Mohammed be found in the books of the Christians?
c. If the Mohammed is NOT Referenced by the books of the Christians, did Allah tell a lie?

10. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
My Questions again:
11. Can you prove that the Scriptures Allah was referring to in the Quran had gone into extinction or Allah believed that the books were still with the Jews and Christians?
12. If the books were lost, why would Allah himself give the title "People of the Book" to Jews and Christians?
13. Did your prophet Muhammad make judgement of stoning an adulteress by asking the Jews to refer to the Torah (remember when a Jew covered the word stoning in the Torah...LOL!)?


All these Questions are NOT new: but you avoided answering.

Make the answers short please!
Mr LegalWolf, who is the CHRONIC LIAR here?

I will copy Fawaz050 who you shamelessly tried to convince not to translate a simple Arabic script into English to see who is the CHRONIC LIAR!

I HAVE CHALLENGED YOU OPENLY HERE, IF I SPEAK LIES, QUOTE ME!
Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LEGALWOLF, I PUT IT TO YOU AGAIN, YOU ARE A SHAMELESS UNREPENTANT CHRONIC LIAR!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf:
TenQ:
PART TWO OF FOUR



Then the LegalWolf GAMBIT of LIES was initiated by you.
Page 12 (First Post).


You opened with a blatant LIE highlighted in YELLOW



FIRST OF THE MAJOR BLATANT LIES by LegalWolf.
1. You claimed that:
"My very simple question is still begging for an explanation
If your very first Question is STILL begging for explanation...
I challenge you to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you have the honour of being Shaitan's assistant in the production of LIES!
2. You claimed that:
"I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source."
I challenge you to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you are the biggest LIAR on Nairaland.

3. As if the level of comprehension of the English language is POOR, you made a statement!

DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?


When did you ask me a question that WARRANTED [b]my conceding to YOUR position? Can you quote the PAGE and Reference if you are NOT a LIAR?[/b]

As usual, you set up a Strawman:
Quoting you
Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.

Who is the LIAR here?

4. Then, you went on to another Strawman Argument by misrepresenting point 3 (which I corrected in my next post)


Can you Quote me when I presented your point 3 highlighted in RED?

Is your conclusion here NOT a blatant LIE!!?
If it not, I challenge you to quote me!
If you can't prove this conclusion you are the biggest Liar and son of your father satan!

I CHALLENGE YOU ONCE AGAIN TO PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE OF THE TRUTH.
TenQ

I have your time. I really do have your time.

Since this is the second of part four, I will be waiting till you finish all your two other long epistle...Like our beloved Apostle Paul, Epistles to who this time... grin grin grin TenQ you are becoming incoherent. In order to save face and you are losing it. Calm down. This is not the first time someone has been discredited and showed to be liar. I do it often times in Court and you will survive (just that your integrity will be with the dogs and shredded to pieces) grin grin. The joy of every trial lawyer is sensing that the other counsel's witness is lying. We always have a field and today is my day

REMEMBER THAT WE ARE AFTER THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT. YAHWEH BEARS ME WITNESS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF YEHOSHUA IN JOHN 8:44 IS THAT CERTAIN LIARS LIKE YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. .

As I understand you, the substance of your post is this:

QUESTION ONE
You quoted me as saying 'My very simple question is still begging for an explanation'... and further challenged me to ' to provide evidence that you asked me this question'? LOL! I will quote you to the post I said it and answer it as Question One. If I remember clearly, that post was a rejoinder to answer I provided and I told you to consider both as one. Don't worry, I will check and provide you with the response!

QUESTION TWO
TenQ are you on pills? You are not getting intelligent with your response. This is my post which you quoted 'I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source." I copied my post from Nairaland verbatim or do you think I did not see the mistake in transcribed that I erroneously spelt? I wanted to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL TenQ.

You have asked me 'to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you are the biggest LIAR on Nairaland . I did not ask you a question TenQ. Maybe the mistake may have been from me omitting to put punctuation marks. But a mor0n should be able to tell that this is me simply telling you that you asked me to do something and I have done it. These are my sources. Is it that hard to tell? Should I still provide evidence again?

QUESTION THREE

Your ad hominem is forgiven TenQ grin. Today is Friday and we keep it haram you get. So we forgive you. On when I asked you question this exact question which warrants you conceding, I will look for the post and quote is as Question Three. Is that fine?

QUESTION FOUR
Barrister TenQ, your parent spent quite a fortune sending you to a State University unlike us that went to cheap Federal Universities in the North. They ought to get value for their money and this clearly removes every doubt that they did.

TenQ, in logic and/or critical thinking (depending on which you chose), there is something called premise and conclusion. . Just to teach you in case your school failed in that purpose, a premise is a plank upon which an argument is built. It could come in form of evidence or assumption while conclusion is ultimately what the argument is trying to prove. It follows from the conclusion.

Within the context of our conversation, what appeared to my mind is that you was trying to prove the book of John is a creation of divine being. Why do I hold that view? The most immediate conversation we were having was whether the book of John was a divine creation or not. You were able to make claims 1 and 2 (which you have never disputed to be valid premises). In that context, it is logical to draw from the premises 1 and 2 you agreed to and in the context of our conversation that point three is your conclusion.

Supposing that I was even wrong, even though I may be of the view that you WAS lying through your teeth, when you 'corrected' me that point three is NOT your conclusion but a question, did I not amend my question in the subsequent posthuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh? Or do you want me to bring evidence to that.

I HAVE TAKEN THE PAINS TO SHOW THAT I HAVE BEEN HONEST WITH YOU AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. TENQ, YOUR DESTRUCTION WOULD BE MORE BRUTAL THAN 6FIGSMART IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT INJIL IS A TERM THAT REFERS TO THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS OF ARAB CHRISTIANS
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 11:37pm On Oct 28, 2022
TenQ:
PART FOUR OF FOUR



When your lies were getting close to being outrightly irritating, I posted this below to set the record straight within one POST!



Mr LegalWolf, who is the CHRONIC LIAR here?

I will copy Fawaz050 who you shamelessly tried to convince not to translate a simple Arabic script into English to see who is the CHRONIC LIAR!

I HAVE CHALLENGED YOU OPENLY HERE, IF I SPEAK LIES, QUOTE ME!
Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LEGALWOLF, I PUT IT TO YOU AGAIN, YOU ARE A SHAMELESS UNREPENTANT CHRONIC LIAR!
You are online. Very good so this can go on forever. I so much miss you TenQ, such a pretty boy. Aren't you grin grin grin Now Let me look for my posts and Quote you on Question 1 and 3. I will know that has been dealt with. Then I will deal with Parts 1, 3 and 4. Is that okay with you.

Don't worry, it will be a long and beautiful ride!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf:
LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ,

My very simple question is still begging for an explanation I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source. Ran through a couple of Arabic Dictionaries here:

https://www.lexilogos.com/english/arabic_dictionary.htm#;

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-arabic/bible?q=Bible (surprisingly, I think I saw a dictionary source where injil was translated as one of the four canon books of the NT. Not too sure on this.)

if you don't mind I share the link of an Arabic Bible App to you translating Each Gospel as Injil.

In fact, I just got to learn what Bible is called in Arabic (I used to erroneously call the fraudulent and dubious NT canon for Injil grin). So there you have your answer!

Remember, you claim you do not want to win an argument and you are more concerned with the truth. At least, you have conceded I was truthful when I gave a direct translation of Q7:157 and you even said you would never hire a lawyer like me because it is automatic loss. Maybe because I stick faithfully to my profession of being an Officer of the Court who instinctively seek the truth always.

Now as you will remember in Proverbs 12:22 which admonish that a lying lip is an abomination to the Lord. And your quest is for Truth and not winning an argument. I ask as follows:

- Having cited two dictionaries which directly translates Injil to the Gospel and not the Bible, DO YOU CONDEDE THAT THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIVE SOURCES IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AS INJIL AND NOT THE COMPEDIUM CALLED BIBLE?

- Again, remember you are for the Truth and not to win an argument. If you doubt that, can you prove that in Arabic, Injil is the ONLY term used to refer to the Bible and no other.

- Finally, my question begs for an answer which you have not even attempted to answer is reproduced below:

Remember, my good friend TenQ, that this is your claim:
1. Quran 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is mentioned in the Gospel. (Premise 1)
2. You Claim that Muslims look up to the book of John as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in the Gospel (Premise 2)
3. Therefore, the Book of John is a creation of a divine being (Conclusion).


It goes without saying that If there is another gospel which Muslims look up to as evidence that the Prophet was mentioned in it, that Gospel should also qualify as a word of God. This is me simply restating your logic. So to ask again, BASED ON YOUR LOGIC AND PREMISE stated above, ARE YOU PREPARED TO ALSO ACCEPT AN APOCRYPAL GOSPEL WHICH FULFILS YOUR SECOND PREMISE AS A BOOK OF GOD'?
TenQ this is QUESTION ONE . The highlight was the question in the last paragraph was asking you in my previous post that you have not provided an answer to!. TenQ is this not the evidence you wanted?

And this part suffices for my QUESTION THREE . I do not need to quote the page number when I can quote the post TenQ. I can see the fear in you and the willingness to clutch on to straws by writing four diversionary epistles to avoid the simple question of providing your references. You know you are losing, you have been caught to have alleged as FACT WHAT is untrue.

TENQ, YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE I LIED AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. A LIE INVOLVES INTENTIONAL FALSEHOOD. SILENCE IN NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS CAN NEVER BE A LIE! BUT YOU LIED TENQ. YOU TOLD UNTRUE FALSEHOOD BY ASSERTING THEM AS 'FACT' AND I WILL GO TO THE END OF THE EARTH TO TELL THE WORLD THIS.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 12:25am On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:
PART ONE OF FOUR
I only decided to respond to your reverse psychology of slander to cover-up for your deficiency in tact, logic , truthful answers and SHAME due to the fact that the Qur'an has been shown to FAIL woefully and you Muslims have to PROTECT Allah and his Messenger from the revelation of the TRUTH .

Don't forget that this is NOT the first time you have done this kind of thing (Remember I busted you once because of this kind of lies).



There are several kinds of ban
1. TOTAL BAN (you are prevented from posting on ALL NL sections)
2. PARTIAL BAN (You are only prevented from posting on the section where your strike emanated from)

You will NOTE that You LegalWolf is the one who is AFRAID of the TRUTH otherwise, how can we account for the more than a DOZEN direct questions I asked you that you AVOIDED answering?


Okay!
This might actually show that you LegalWolf is the one bending words to suit another purpose!


The first time I asked you this question was on page 11 of this thread on NL .

Your response to this post above COMPLETELY ignored the questions above (check it out)
I responded with the post below citing the summary of my three witnesses and the fact that you ignored answering my question!



I noted that Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular), meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost.

And I asked(as evidence):
What is the name of the book given to Suleiman?

Your response ignored even the last question of the name of the book of Suleiman.

I repeated Question again in my next post.




Check your Response (end of [b]page 11 [/b]whether you responded or not as usual).


END OF PART ONE
Excellent Points regarding the types of ban. I have suspected that as I have gotten a couple bans (both total and partial). Anyways, thank you for teaching me what I know before, grin grin grin

Now let us go to the meat of the conversation. This is where things get interesting. This is your post:

I noted that Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular), meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost.

And I asked(as evidence):
What is the name of the book given to Suleiman?

Your response ignored even the last question of the name of the book of Suleiman.


Can you not see the logical fallacy of your claim. Let me restate it as follows:
- Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular) [premise one]
- meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost. [is that a conclusion??]

TenQ which University did you finish from I am genuinely curious. What course did you study because this is getting laughable. How would draw such a conclusion from that post? Or did I wrongly assume that is a premise. Read my lips 'No sane human will ever draw such a conclusion

I did not respond to your post because I think there was no need to. As you rightly claimed in the same post you are citing you said ' Your aim was to find out whether the Book of John is book of divine creation or any of the books of the New Testament. on Oct 25 3;51 p.m. These were your words not mine. As you rightly said, if my aim was to find out whether the book of John is of divine creation, I do not see the reason why I need to answer your question and that was why I was telling you to remember the context of our conversation!

TENQ, YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE I LIED AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. A LIE INVOLVES INTENTIONAL FALSEHOOD. SILENCE IN NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS CANNEVER BE A LIE. BUT YOU LIED TENQ. YOU TOLD UNTRUE FALSEHOOD AND I WILL GO TO THE END OF THE EARTH TO TELL THE WORLD THIS.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 12:40am On Oct 29, 2022
For the first time I encountered the nairaland limit of length of post. Thanks to you for the knowledge.
I HAD TO BURST YOUR CHRONIC LIES BEFORE YOUR FACE.

It took FOUR separate Posts (to avoid the limit).

I dare you to your FACE, prove me WRONG!

LIAR!


LegalWolf:
TenQ yhwh bears me witness that you ostensibly lied that Injil is a term used by Arab Christians for the first four books of their bible called Gospel (not gospels) . I have adduced evidence from Cambridge and Arabic bible that testified it is one books and is not a term for the first four books (but each of the four books) of the Bible. All you need do is redeem yourself.

The implication is serious. IF IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU LIED IN ORDER TO TRANSLATE A WORD TO SUIT YOUR NARRATIVE, WHAT GIVES US THE ASSURANCE THAT YOU WOULD NOT LIE TO TRANSLATE A SENTENCE
Secular Websites:
The four gospels in Arabic
The four gospels in Arabic, Add Ms 11856
This remarkable manuscript is very different to what the casual glance might suggest: despite the Islamic style carpet page, and the Arabic script, this is a Christian document – an account of the Gospels – made in Palestine in the 14th century.

https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/the-four-gospels-in-arabic

When were the Gospels translated into Arabic?
The earliest manuscript copies of the Four Gospels in Arabic date from the late eighth or ninth centuries, and were made from a variety of languages, including Syriac, Greek and Coptic. Perhaps the oldest dated Arabic copy of the Four Gospels is in the library at Mount Sinai, dated 859. The Harley Trilingual Psalter, from mid-12th century Sicily, contains an Arabic translation of the Psalms made a century earlier.

https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/the-four-gospels-in-arabic



What did Allah Say: Quran
Quran 7:157
“Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;


At least as of the time of Mohammed, Allah recognised that Mohammed's name is found mentioned in the scriptures of the Jews and Christians
How did Waraqa know this same scripture?


Your Hadiths:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Hadith Number 605.
SAHIH BUKHARI BOOK 55. PROPHETS
Narated By ‘Aisha : The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), “What do you see?” When he told him, Waraqa said, “That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly.”

https://hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/sahih-bukhari-book-55-prophets/sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-055-hadith-number-605

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Hadith Number 111.
...
Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin ‘Abdul ‘Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father’s brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, “O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew.” Waraqa asked, “O my nephew! What have you seen?” The Prophet described whatever he had seen.

https://hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/sahih-bukhari-book-87-interpretation-of-dreams/sahih-bukhari-volume-009-book-087-hadith-number-111#:~:text=But%20have%20the%20glad%20tidings,cousin)%20Waraqa%20bin%20Naufal%20bin

Finally, What do Arab Christians call their Gospel:
إنجيل متى
إنجيل مرقس
إنجيل لوقا
إنجيل يوحنا
https://www.bible.com/ar/bible/101/MAT.INTRO1.KEH
https://www.bible.com/ar/bible/101/MRK.INTRO1.KEH
https://www.bible.com/ar/bible/101/LUK.INTRO1.KEH
https://www.bible.com/ar/bible/101/JHN.1.KEH

The above are All webpages from the Arabic Bible!



God Bless you, BUT stop telling LIES to Protect Allah and His prophet!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 12:42am On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:
PART THREE OF FOUR


I am ashamed for you.
A LIAR from the Religion of LIES!


I shake my head.

This is the second time I am BURSTING your lies here on Nairaland!
Your case may be after all irredeemable

Remember, I have walked you from PAGE 11 through PAGE 12 and in just one post, we find several LIES to which I've Challenged YOU to DENY of you can. (Just quote and give the Nairaland PAGE as evidence). The Yorubas will call you OPURO! Your lies can wake up the dead!

Still on page 12, my response corrected your Taqqiyya as your purported CONCLUSION of YOUR PREMISE 1 and PREMISE 2 below (WITHIN your OWN POST) to tell you that I see through your Deception!



Tell me that I DID NOT CORRECT your LIES!?

You then responded with a barrage of Strawman Lies below




Highlighted in RED:
You said:

1. You repeated the Word Concede as if YOU were the one who asked me the Question AND that I should concede that INJEEL is Not the Compendium called the Bible.

Please Where did I CLAIM that the Injeel is the Bible?
(The worst I could do was to claim that Mohammed does not know any other book of the Christians other than Injeel and therefore Injeel to Mohammed would be the Book of the Christians).
Please provide the EVIDENCE where TenQ claimed that Injeel was the Bible or forever admit that you are a chronic LIAR!

I then posted


Note my quotes
"If you have answered the question, I would have asked you what does Gospel mean? For Injeel is meaningless without the meaning of Gospel. Therefore, I asked again, what does Injeel mean?"

Did I not accuse you of repeating a Strawman Lie against me?
Why do you keep up repeating a LIE as my conclusion in your quote below (even after I corrected you)?

I then made this claim:
"The ignorance of your prophet made him not to know that Christian Bible contain several books.

Mohammed in his ignorance called the book of the Christians Injeel just as he didn't know that the Torah consists of FIVE separate books!

I can't help Mohammed's ignorance. Your Strawman argument cannot work on me!"


Highlighted in BLUE:
You Said:

Where did TenQ EVER claimed that Injeel is the ONLY term used to refer to the bible and no other!?
If I didn't claim a point, why would I be required to prove it? This is another classic example of a Strawman argument! A LIE presented as representing the truth from the opposition so that you can have something easy to fight with?
Give me a quote or forever admit that just as Allah, you are one of the best Deciever

Highlighted in Yellow:
You repeated your lies of my purported CONCLUSION number 3 which I had corrected you for on my last post to you.

If you didn't repeat this LIE, give me a QUOTE as Evidence!

Your response was so weak and lame that :
I then asked you these Questions (for which you've given no response till now)

Can you TRUTHFULLY say that the people of the book (singular) have ONLY THREE Books as Scriptures
Injeel, Zabur and Taurat ?

I won't be surprised if you tell a lie or ignore the question as usual!


NOTE HOW MANY LIES you have spoken within a short space of TIME!?

You responded with lots of COPY-PASTE repeating your lies except that you finally corrected ITEM 3 of the Premise 1 and 2 to read exactly what my item 3 was!


You finally ADMITTED to LIEING in the Number 3. Why were you LIEING in the First Place?
To be honest, I think I am feeling sleepy now but cannot wait till tomorrow to continue. PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER THIS POST AS A RESPONSE TO YOUR THREE OUT OF FOUR AS I WILL GIVE A MORE DETAILED RESPONSE LATER TODAY!

On this platform nairaland, I will go to every length to show that you are a liar. YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT FAILURE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS NOT PROOF THAT I AM LYING . I have just considered your question unreasonable or irrelevant to the conversation. A lie as we understand it is deliberate falsehood and it requires a positive step. That is my understand as defined here [link: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie]. And I repeat, and which has been confirmed in your four page ramblings, I have never uttered an untrue statement. All I do if I do not see a need to answer a question is to ignore and when you call me out for failing to answer your questions, sometimes I tell you that that 'is not in issue/dispute' or using similar words.

AGAIN TENQ, YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE I LIED AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. A LIE INVOLVES INTENTIONAL FALSEHOOD. SILENCE IN NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS CANNEVER BE A LIE. BUT YOU LIED TENQ. YOU TOLD UNTRUE FALSEHOOD AND I WILL GO TO THE END OF THE EARTH TO TELL THE WORLD THIS.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 12:47am On Oct 29, 2022
LegalWolf:
TenQ

I have your time. I really do have your time.

Since this is the second of part four, I will be waiting till you finish all your two other long epistle...Like our beloved Apostle Paul, Epistles to who this time... grin grin grin TenQ you are becoming incoherent. In order to save face and you are losing it. Calm down. This is not the first time someone has been discredited and showed to be liar. I do it often times in Court and you will survive (just that your integrity will be with the dogs and shredded to pieces) grin grin. The joy of every trial lawyer is sensing that the other counsel's witness is lying. We always have a field and today is my day

REMEMBER THAT WE ARE AFTER THE TRUTH AND NOT TO WIN AN ARGUMENT. YAHWEH BEARS ME WITNESS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF YEHOSHUA IN JOHN 8:44 IS THAT CERTAIN LIARS LIKE YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. .

As I understand you, the substance of your post is this:

QUESTION ONE
You quoted me as saying 'My very simple question is still begging for an explanation'... and further challenged me to ' to provide evidence that you asked me this question'? LOL! I will quote you to the post I said it and answer it as Question One. If I remember clearly, that post was a rejoinder to answer I provided and I told you to consider both as one. Don't worry, I will check and provide you with the response!

QUESTION TWO
TenQ are you on pills? You are not getting intelligent with your response. This is my post which you quoted 'I once told you that my personal preference is that Injil should be transacribed as Gospel and not Bible and you asked me to provide a source." I copied my post from Nairaland verbatim or do you think I did not see the mistake in transcribed that I erroneously spelt? I wanted to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL TenQ.

You have asked me 'to provide evidence that you asked me this question else you are the biggest LIAR on Nairaland . I did not ask you a question TenQ. Maybe the mistake may have been from me omitting to put punctuation marks. But a mor0n should be able to tell that this is me simply telling you that you asked me to do something and I have done it. These are my sources. Is it that hard to tell? Should I still provide evidence again?

QUESTION THREE

Your ad hominem is forgiven TenQ grin. Today is Friday and we keep it haram you get. So we forgive you. On when I asked you question this exact question which warrants you conceding, I will look for the post and quote is as Question Three. Is that fine?

QUESTION FOUR
Barrister TenQ, your parent spent quite a fortune sending you to a State University unlike us that went to cheap Federal Universities in the North. They ought to get value for their money and this clearly removes every doubt that they did.

TenQ, in logic and/or critical thinking (depending on which you chose), there is something called premise and conclusion. . Just to teach you in case your school failed in that purpose, a premise is a plank upon which an argument is built. It could come in form of evidence or assumption while conclusion is ultimately what the argument is trying to prove. It follows from the conclusion.

Within the context of our conversation, what appeared to my mind is that you was trying to prove the book of John is a creation of divine being. Why do I hold that view? The most immediate conversation we were having was whether the book of John was a divine creation or not. You were able to make claims 1 and 2 (which you have never disputed to be valid premises). In that context, it is logical to draw from the premises 1 and 2 you agreed to and in the context of our conversation that point three is your conclusion.

Supposing that I was even wrong, even though I may be of the view that you WAS lying through your teeth, when you 'corrected' me that point three is NOT your conclusion but a question, did I not amend my question in the subsequent posthuhhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh? Or do you want me to bring evidence to that.

I HAVE TAKEN THE PAINS TO SHOW THAT I HAVE BEEN HONEST WITH YOU AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. TENQ, YOUR DESTRUCTION WOULD BE MORE BRUTAL THAN 6FIGSMART IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT INJIL IS A TERM THAT REFERS TO THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS OF ARAB CHRISTIANS
Just Quote Me LIAR!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 12:49am On Oct 29, 2022
LegalWolf:
You are online. Very good so this can go on forever. I so much miss you TenQ, such a pretty boy. Aren't you grin grin grin Now Let me look for my posts and Quote you on Question 1 and 3. I will know that has been dealt with. Then I will deal with Parts 1, 3 and 4. Is that okay with you.

Don't worry, it will be a long and beautiful ride!
Mr Liar, All you need to do is to quote me and dont forget timeline so that we can follow progressions.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 12:51am On Oct 29, 2022
LegalWolf:
TenQ this is QUESTION ONE . The highlight was the question in the last paragraph was asking you in my previous post that you have not provided an answer to!. TenQ is this not the evidence you wanted?

And this part suffices for my QUESTION THREE . I do not need to quote the page number when I can quote the post TenQ. I can see the fear in you and the willingness to clutch on to straws by writing four diversionary epistles to avoid the simple question of providing your references. You know you are losing, you have been caught to have alleged as FACT WHAT is untrue.

TENQ, YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE I LIED AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. A LIE INVOLVES INTENTIONAL FALSEHOOD. SILENCE IN NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS CAN NEVER BE A LIE! BUT YOU LIED TENQ. YOU TOLD UNTRUE FALSEHOOD BY ASSERTING THEM AS 'FACT' AND I WILL GO TO THE END OF THE EARTH TO TELL THE WORLD THIS.
It is NOT by repeating whether I have failed or not!
Quote me properly, I DARE YOU LIAR!

Is it not possible for you to state your points without lying!?
SMH!!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 12:53am On Oct 29, 2022
LegalWolf:
Excellent Points regarding the types of ban. I have suspected that as I have gotten a couple bans (both total and partial). Anyways, thank you for teaching me what I know before, grin grin grin

Now let us go to the meat of the conversation. This is where things get interesting. This is your post:

I noted that Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular), meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost.

And I asked(as evidence):
What is the name of the book given to Suleiman?

Your response ignored even the last question of the name of the book of Suleiman.


Can you not see the logical fallacy of your claim. Let me restate it as follows:
- Allah calls Jews and Christians people of the BOOK (singular) [premise one]
- meaning that their books were unique to them which would not have been if the books were lost. [is that a conclusion??]

TenQ which University did you finish from I am genuinely curious. What course did you study because this is getting laughable. How would draw such a conclusion from that post? Or did I wrongly assume that is a premise. Read my lips 'No sane human will ever draw such a conclusion

I did not respond to your post because I think there was no need to. As you rightly claimed in the same post you are citing you said ' Your aim was to find out whether the Book of John is book of divine creation or any of the books of the New Testament. on Oct 25 3;51 p.m. These were your words not mine. As you rightly said, if my aim was to find out whether the book of John is of divine creation, I do not see the reason why I need to answer your question and that was why I was telling you to remember the context of our conversation!

TENQ, YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE I LIED AND YHWH BEARS ME WITNESS. A LIE INVOLVES INTENTIONAL FALSEHOOD. SILENCE IN NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS CANNEVER BE A LIE. BUT YOU LIED TENQ. YOU TOLD UNTRUE FALSEHOOD AND I WILL GO TO THE END OF THE EARTH TO TELL THE WORLD THIS.
I have made some serious allegations against you of lying, therefore QUOTE me Please!
It is not in the gymnastics of words, it is in the presentation of evidence!

LIAR!!
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