Pierocash:
.People like you are the reasons young Nigerians don't think they can make it in Nigeria.

What Agbaje pointed out is nothing but the truth. How will a bank executive resign her position and relocated to become a health care assistant and all you could do is to justify it by saying she earns a decent pay. What kind of life is she living there and how much does she earns? You are talking of fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram, those people running away from Nigeria are not even in there region of bandits and Boko Haram,these are Southerners using Boko Haram as the excuse to japa only to end up with lower standard of living,while those who are directly affected are not even considering japa as an option.

People tend to use exchange rate to measure wealth,but you are wrong. Exchange rate is not and indices to measure standard of living. You measure standard of living using what is called PPP(Purchasing price/power parity). That is what is used to determine standard of living not exchange rate. There are people in Nigeria here who have never touched dollar or pounds in their life ,but have higher standard of living that so many of their counter parts abroad.

Quit this your japa mentality and build yourself here,there is honey and gold in Nigeria here. You can't convince someone like me to japa,I will rather go there to invest and return home just to spread my business nothing more.

I stand with Agbaje.

I pray God open yours to reality a cleaner in USA or Canada is better than a banker in Nigeria where u might he kidnap anywhere do u know Lagos Ibadan express way is now a kidnapper den...

SmartyPants:


No let's face the facts. The current wave of migration is of people looking to resettle.

Do you know how many doctors leave this coutnry daily? Tech guys too?

Even those going via school are generally only using school as a means of escape.

Nigerian students brought in the highest mumber of dependents to the UK last year. For what if not settlement?

Our society obviously cannot continue like this.

Let them leave!

Did any of them steal your money? Should you not be happy they are fleeing so that the jobs they left would be made available to those who need them? Are they the cause of ASUU strikes that hinder the graduation of more nurses and doctors? I thought you lots say Nigeria is over 200 million, thus, everyone cannot leave (which is true anyway)? Why are you sad people are using their money to relocate from Nigeria? Is it your relocation? Is it not the best opportunity for you to BUY ALL THE LANDS AVAILABLE? GET ALL THE JOBS AVAILABLE? You should be glad people are leaving.

szczescie:
Tell them please, Most Advise has its targeted audience oh.

Look, If you are a billionaire or a multimillionaire as in you earn millions per month PLEASE don’t leave Nigeria.

I have worked and schooled all over Nigeria in bank, law firms, federal and state government levels and as a lawyer I can tell you if you are rich or you have connections you can talk, buy or beg your way out of jail, out of tax, out of most small and medium every day problems and even more, you can get away with a lot. Life is easier for you in Nigeria you can pay to cut lines in bank and cut corners in most places, protocols bend for you.

That is why Agbaje and his likes Will say NO NEED TO LEAVE NIGERIA he is right but it’s only For him and those in his financial bracket.

But for me and you on naira land the everyday normal, average salary earner who doesn’t have phone numbers of Governors, Ministers, IG of police on their phone, who has no money for ransom saved somewhere in case, for us who earn peanuts I mean you earn less than 250k a month for working full time 6am to 6pm (plus hold up) and the fact that even your spare time belongs to your boss or job based on respect for those in authority and elder and no job anywhere, everyone wants your job. So you go out of your way to add jara just to please your boss. It’s our culture. And despite all that your rent takes up half or more than half of your salary. Hmmm…. Agbaje’s Advise is not for us oh

People like you and me can FLEE (but please do it legally don’t go through desert you may end up paying those Libyans millions of naira to free you from their cells. And that’s even if you survive the Sahara desert. So please flee but do it legally and be ready to work hard as hard as you’ve been working in Naija things will go well for you just remove shame from your eye and be willing to work. You will be respected and you will be paid well and on time.

No mind agbaje and his likes, his advice is for those in his financial bracket.

Spot on chief. Accurate analysis.

idnole4:


Elite hypocrisy! His kids are probably schooling in the UK or US.

the issue with Ina be say if u no gree Japa... How many pple de Japa self... From Nigeria... Even America India China Germany Canada pple still de Japa to other places from there so why the hullabaloo...

He no start GTB so make he maintain. Every one in Lagos know the Agbaje family.
Let him and his family start the bank now how they started way back.
Under APC corruption has gone from fantastically corrupt to super corrupt.
9mobile, Keystone bank, Polaris Bank etc it is corruption that took over them.

Just find your level. Not everyone will make it either in Nigeria or abroad. There have been countless number of 'japa' who returned with nothing. And there are citizens who made it here without been in government. It's all about grace, opportunities and contact. Move with the right person and position yourself for the right move. No be everybody go get money. Quit being God.

Thortp:
Oga Sir, Let everyone decide on what they want.
Not everyone is after wealth or status in the society.
All some people craves for is simply rest of mind, considering the high level of insecurity in the country.
A presidential convoy was attacked in Nigeria for God's sake.

I see many people leaving in droves even to neighbouring African countries if Nigeria's situation remains the same after a year from now.

Modified:
Will the bank executive turned cleaner remains like that forever?

Now consider this. Just a day headline in a country

Mr. Thortp, where our people have japa to, have mass killings everyday. USA as good as it is, mass killing of innocent people is the order of the day daily, over there live is worthless. Hence, think well before japa.

Very wrong and disconnected from reality statement.

Does he think he's gtb staffs are happy?

Pierocash:
.People like you are the reasons young Nigerians don't think they can make it in Nigeria.

What Agbaje pointed out is nothing but the truth. How will a bank executive resign her position and relocated to become a health care assistant and all you could do is to justify it by saying she earns a decent pay. What kind of life is she living there and how much does she earns? You are talking of fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram, those people running away from Nigeria are not even in there region of bandits and Boko Haram,these are Southerners using Boko Haram as the excuse to japa only to end up with lower standard of living,while those who are directly affected are not even considering japa as an option.

People tend to use exchange rate to measure wealth,but you are wrong. Exchange rate is not and indices to measure standard of living. You measure standard of living using what is called PPP(Purchasing price/power parity). That is what is used to determine standard of living not exchange rate. There are people in Nigeria here who have never touched dollar or pounds in their life ,but have higher standard of living that so many of their counter parts abroad.

Quit this your japa mentality and build yourself here,there is honey and gold in Nigeria here. You can't convince someone like me to japa,I will rather go there to invest and return home just to spread my business nothing more.

I stand with Agbaje.

if I get 10mil to Japa now I will use it to grow my business and keepeon doing what I did to make that 10mil and hence I will use it to grow my business again and the cycle will keep on rotating like that and I will live a luxury life in this Naija

Gerrard59:


Let them leave!

Did any of them steal your money? Should you not be happy they are fleeing so that the jobs they left would be made available to those who need them? Are they the cause of ASUU strikes that hinder the graduation of more nurses and doctors? I thought you lots say Nigeria is over 200 million, thus, everyone cannot leave (which is true anyway)? Why are you sad people are using their money to relocate from Nigeria? Is it your relocation? Is it not the best opportunity for you to BUY ALL THE LANDS AVAILABLE? GET ALL THE JOBS AVAILABLE? You should be glad people are leaving.

That's short term thinking. Sooner or later all these countries will swing heavily to the political right and push these migrants out. Then we will all be forced to do at last, what we ought to have done at first.

djon78:


It's not every place in the UK that have high rents. London have high expensive rent but in the Midlands rent is very cheap food is very affordable. The person can live off on 2700 pounds tax inclusive and still save over a thousand pounds.

Why do you think many bankers and other professionals japad in the past couple of years to the UK, US, Canada etc?

Because they checked what they are earning here and compared to even a manual laborer abroad it was rubbish. So they relocated

My sister was a manager in a big firm in Lagos she relocated to Canada with her husband and children since 4 years ago. Today she is working in a very big firm in Canada

My best man a pharmacist left for Canada first week of January this year. He didn't tell anyone.
He came back in October to see his very sick mum, told me he will visit again next Easter.
He has settled very fine over there

My brother's account officer of his Bank relocated to the UK with his wife and children

If you know the number of professionals that have left Nigeria in this Buhari period you will be shocked.
Nigerian Banks have been hardly hit. Why do you think this Agbaje and Amosun them are complaining?
Those overseas country are offering them better pay and good standard of living

While this present APC government has messed up the economy.


I have activated my own Japa plans the only thing that will make me stay back is if Peter Obi wins this election if not I don go be that and likewise many people I know.


This 2023 election is very dicey for Nigeria. Many young enterprising Nigerians will give up on this country if the wrong person takes over.
It will be calamitous for this Nation.

Peter Obi won't win and anyone unhappy can go to Japan... There are stories of pple who relocated and are miserable too... Besides not everyone can relocate no matter what... Again even these so called established countries pple migrate from there to other countries... Footballers earn mega pay in Europe yet not all footballers from Nigeria ll have the opportunity to play in Europe... Afelokhai a goalkeeper has a mini estate Today in Nigeria and all his career he played in Nigeria... What ever makes anyone happy do but pple should weigh the consequences to every actions... Lastly your next president is either tinubu or Atiku so get used to that or continue sleeping in the fantasy of Obi presidency...

Timmi:


Mr. Thortp, where our people have japa to, have mass killings everyday. USA as good as it is, mass killing of innocent people is the order of the day daily, over there live is worthless. Hence, think well before japa.

our people no dey think disadvantages na advantages dem dey think about

Pierocash:
.People like you are the reasons young Nigerians don't think they can make it in Nigeria.

What Agbaje pointed out is nothing but the truth. How will a bank executive resign her position and relocated to become a health care assistant and all you could do is to justify it by saying she earns a decent pay. What kind of life is she living there and how much does she earns? You are talking of fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram, those people running away from Nigeria are not even in there region of bandits and Boko Haram,these are Southerners using Boko Haram as the excuse to japa only to end up with lower standard of living,while those who are directly affected are not even considering japa as an option.

People tend to use exchange rate to measure wealth,but you are wrong. Exchange rate is not and indices to measure standard of living. You measure standard of living using what is called PPP(Purchasing price/power parity). That is what is used to determine standard of living not exchange rate. There are people in Nigeria here who have never touched dollar or pounds in their life ,but have higher standard of living that so many of their counter parts abroad.

Quit this your japa mentality and build yourself here,there is honey and gold in Nigeria here. You can't convince someone like me to japa,I will rather go there to invest and return home just to spread my business nothing more.

I stand with Agbaje.

Really? its so funny to me when I read the comment of some naija on here. U want us to stay behind in a country that only people that know somebody survives lol. the mistake most of guys dont understand is, in western world u have to sacrifice some time to get urself together and afterward u will be happy that u leave naija. Im IT system administrator here now but when i came here in western world i seek asylum, at that time we are not allowed to work under asylum proceedings but we are paid 280k naira for doing nuttin by staying at home then i decided to continue my study now as IT I earned roughly 3.7 million naira monthly after tax. To una logic I should stay behind in naija and eating what? cos im from very poor family and none of my family is into politics. what a load of crap coming from Agbaje!
My advice to most naija is if u have opportunity to japa better do ooo, u only need few years to get ur paper in order in abroad but not just any over hyped country like UK, US and Co. im talking about country like Holland, sweden, Denmark, norway, switzerland luxembourg, finland, Iceland and so on but b4 u get ur stay sorted 3 square meal is guranteed, latest iphone or any latest high end phone too cos theres opportunity to pay in installment here. just try to learn work or study here cos the opportunities are endless!!!!!!!!!!

Gerrard59:


The surprising thing people don't know about development...no developed society got to where she is by being divided. If there is no racial superiority/dominance, there is ethnic dominance. The level of development a country has today is based on the cultural characteristics of her dominant ethnic/racial group and how cohesive or divided the society is. It is why South Korea is far more developed than Malaysia or Chile is more developed than Brazil. The more divided a society is along ethnic/racial/religious lines, the poorer and less developed she becomes.

In summary, as long as Nigeria is divided - religiously and ethnically - she would never become developed or prosperous.

The bolded is very true about Nigeria

The country will never be developed and the more she will loose her productive citizens to Western countries who are now seeing the value these productive citizens are adding to there economy.

Canada started it and it's been a huge success. Now UK, Australia and many developed Western countries are keying in taking the most productive of our country.

Canada even increased the quota for immigration for the next five years.

Pierocash:
Get it straight. Having the opportunity to be there and be settled to life over there,is different from someone who is already doing well here but resigned,sold off his properties and relocated,this are two different issues.

Why will someone already living well here decides to japa without no clear cut out and better plan,only to take a gamble and end up worse off. No be mumu be that

In the UK her children are entitled to free medical care, free primary and secondary education and she earns a lot better than what she was earning here. In additional to that the future of her children are secured , no security concerns and basic are amenities are duly provided.

If Agbaje's father didn't take similar risk to relocate abroad would Agbaje himself had the opportunity to school abraod that shaped his future to become the man he is today ?

SmartyPants:


That's short term thinking. Sooner or later all these countries will swing heavily to the political right and push these migrants out. Then we will all be forced to do at last, what we ought to have done at first.

Story

Why is the US the most successful country in the world?

They know the importance and value of the right immigration.
Many Western countries are copying them from Canada to UK, Australia etc

More productive citizens of poor African countries will be attracted to these Western countries.

OGHENAOGIE:
Peter Obi won't win and anyone unhappy can go to Japan... There are stories of pple who relocated and are miserable too... Besides not everyone can relocate no matter what... Again even these so called established countries pple migrate from there to other countries... Footballers earn mega pay in Europe yet not all footballers from Nigeria ll have the opportunity to play in Europe... Afelokhai a goalkeeper has a mini estate Today in Nigeria and all his career he played in Nigeria... What ever makes anyone happy do but pple should weigh the consequences to every actions... Lastly your next president is either tinubu or Atiku so get used to that or continue sleeping in the fantasy of Obi presidency...

Why are people like Agbaje and Amosun them complaining

Because they are part of the system. And they are seeing the havoc being caused as many professionals and skilled labour are leaving in drives

Nigerian Banks are the most hit

I dey even pray make Atiku or Tinubu win at least the economic collapse will be well felt

Na those that will be around to bear the brunt I will be pitiable on

He is not in the real world, he has never been,,,
we are the world and its content,
we knows what we've seen,
we knows what we wants.

Pierocash:
.People like you are the reasons young Nigerians don't think they can make it in Nigeria.

What Agbaje pointed out is nothing but the truth. How will a bank executive resign her position and relocated to become a health care assistant and all you could do is to justify it by saying she earns a decent pay. What kind of life is she living there and how much does she earns? You are talking of fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram, those people running away from Nigeria are not even in there region of bandits and Boko Haram,these are Southerners using Boko Haram as the excuse to japa only to end up with lower standard of living,while those who are directly affected are not even considering japa as an option.

People tend to use exchange rate to measure wealth,but you are wrong. Exchange rate is not and indices to measure standard of living. You measure standard of living using what is called PPP(Purchasing price/power parity). That is what is used to determine standard of living not exchange rate. There are people in Nigeria here who have never touched dollar or pounds in their life ,but have higher standard of living that so many of their counter parts abroad.

Quit this your japa mentality and build yourself here,there is honey and gold in Nigeria here. You can't convince someone like me to japa,I will rather go there to invest and return home just to spread my business nothing more.

I stand with Agbaje.

Oga, that bank executive is looking at something bigger than money: the future. Something you know next to nothing about.

In 5 years, that man will become a permanent resident of that country. In 10 years, he can apply for citizenship of that country. Yes, a first world country. That is the greatest inheritance a Nigerian can give to his children.

Use your head. It's not hard

When you allow opportunist lectures you that is what you get

Nothing good has come out of nigeria lately and whoever chose to stay will continue to struggle to make if he or she isn’t in category of the corrupt politicians drug dealers fraudsters armed robbers or kidnappers and allotted oil rig owners

Michaeljames22:
Everyone feels their opinion is right

since he believes young Nigeria can make it here why is only son not schooling here talk is cheap

Pierocash:
.People like you are the reasons young Nigerians don't think they can make it in Nigeria.

What Agbaje pointed out is nothing but the truth. How will a bank executive resign her position and relocated to become a health care assistant and all you could do is to justify it by saying she earns a decent pay. What kind of life is she living there and how much does she earns? You are talking of fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram, those people running away from Nigeria are not even in there region of bandits and Boko Haram,these are Southerners using Boko Haram as the excuse to japa only to end up with lower standard of living,while those who are directly affected are not even considering japa as an option.

People tend to use exchange rate to measure wealth,but you are wrong. Exchange rate is not and indices to measure standard of living. You measure standard of living using what is called PPP(Purchasing price/power parity). That is what is used to determine standard of living not exchange rate. There are people in Nigeria here who have never touched dollar or pounds in their life ,but have higher standard of living that so many of their counter parts abroad.

Quit this your japa mentality and build yourself here,there is honey and gold in Nigeria here. You can't convince someone like me to japa,I will rather go there to invest and return home just to spread my business nothing more.

I stand with Agbaje.

1000 likes for you

olasaad:
The question is where are your children sir Are they also in Redeemer's University or Obafemi Awolowo University

The question is where are the kidnappers when you need them?

How the hypocrisy of Nigerian elites stinks to high heavens. Can you imagine the advice, do you know how difficult it is to get anything on merit in Naija, a good paying job without having one strong connect or without God miraculously helping you out, if I knew what I know now, I would have left a gazillion years ago. Anyone that has the means pls by all means leave. Is it health care? Is it the lack of justice for the poor? Don't be deceived, this con3 get as e be, let them that are the principalities and powers of this country remain here.

Pierocash:
the question is, why will a successful lawyer here decided to quit his successful career here to japa, to pursue what exactly?

If a struggling Nigerian decides to japa,that is quite understandable. But seeing people doing well here , quitting there jobs here to japa. Looking for what exactly?

This are the people we are condenming not struggling young Nigerian who sees opportunity to try his destiny elsewhere,those are not the people we are talking about. You can't convince me here to Japa, looking for what?

Good question, bro.

But one of my explanations for that would be that, unlike Nigeria, [b]legit [/b]Japa provides a much more global ascension and fair playing ground.

First, my premise is based on the fact that maybe most successful Lawyers weren't meant to be Lawyers in the first place but chose the profession as it was hot cake back then so as not to be unsuccessful in Nigeria, the same way people are choosing tech now because of USD earning or petroleum those periods to eat out of the national cake/resource. And that's why so many zoologists are Lawyers today in Nigeria, so many magicians are fake herbalists/pastors/imams, so many weapon-skilled men are doctors, and so many doctors are serial killers. Why? Everybody wants to make money. However, Japa allows you to be a magician, a hunter, a zoologist, or even a cleaner as the OP said, and still be fulfilled and successful. And you may never know this truth most times until you Japa even if you were successful over here in a popular profession. Who knew Samklef would excel better as a blogger than a music producer? Or does Pepenazi excels as a Pastor than as a Musician? And I am sure they feel fulfilled doing this together with making money .

Imagine the wealthiest Lawyer in Nigeria, who never really practiced law in itself. Same with many Nigerian Professions- the richest Doctor, the richest Teacher, etc. That shows you something(Nothing is given to you here by merit until you use the guns, you Gerrit?). That also shows you how much you have to get dirty, be involved in dirty politics, and do many underground shady things to get to the peak of success at the end of the day, I ask: "is that success really?" See Festus Keyamo now for instance... If Festus had Japa as a successful activist, he probably may have saved thousands of lives through activism and ascended in so many ways he can never imagine. Now he has been reduced to...

And the irony is if things go wrong for the Agbaje guy now, and God forbid(it only takes one nonsense policy/health/village people), he loses all his money and has to start again... Japa offers him more chances of recuperating faster than Nigeria. In fact, Nigeria makes things worse. Ask the Ibrus and others who got Lamido Sanusi's rod.

But over there, you hear of billionaires losing it all and recuperating as fast as possible. And they obviously don't lose it all just because of a policy or a Government change...In fact, they lose it all and still live largely(maybe on credit ). Do you know how many artists in Nigeria got popular but are now irrelevant and broke? I kid you not, it's not easy for that to happen there with royalties and other benefits with the kind of popularity some of them attained.

If you have money in Nigeria no need to relocate because with your money you can do anything in Nigeria and get away with it, that's why they can advise you yet there kids are all outside enjoying a sane clime , been a Nigerian is really the most difficult Job in the �. Go out you are not even sure of coming back, beside they enjoyed the best education system during there years but look at the educational sector now you will cry, should we talk about the exploitive system of work here in Nigeria, if you are fortunate to leave this country you won't want to come back again

Thortp:
Oga Sir, Let everyone decide on what they want.
Not everyone is after wealth or status in the society.
All some people craves for is simply rest of mind, considering the high level of insecurity in the country.
A presidential convoy was attacked in Nigeria for God's sake.

I see many people leaving in droves even to neighbouring African countries if Nigeria's situation remains the same after a year from now.

Modified:
Will the bank executive turned cleaner remains like that forever?

Now consider this. Just a day headline in a country

I'm not disputing your your write-up but the screenshots you attached to your comment was needless.
The violent deaths recorded in America on daily basis far surpass what we recorded in Nigeria even with our insecurity challenge. I suggest you download Hi Browser on your phone and see the daily updates

People like this Agbaje of a man clearly prove that the devil is really in charge of this country Nigeria. See him talking as if he cares about whatever fate befalls those leaving the country.

The man is only worried that many of his slaves- abi workers, are now resigning in droves and traveling abroad.

Nigeria is nosediving at a steady rate. Anybody who has the means should leave please. When the political class are serious about building the country, they'll restructure it and devolve power to the regions so that people would no longer depend on the federal government to develop their regions and thrive economically.

bobman22:


https://www.businesstimesng.com/japa-nigerian-elites-disconnect-from-reality-the-segun-agbaje-example/

This Agbaje dude using that old laziness/hardwork paradigm to guilt-trip regular people into staying in a dysfunctional society, am sure he goes everywhere with two Hiluxes filled with policemen, to protect himself from thr lawlessness & chaos, and lives in a gated estate where security codes are changed every few hours & non-residents cannot enter without invitation. I'm sure he flies abroad for medical treatment and all his kids school/live abroad too.

Nigeria's thieving, greedy elite are just so fûcking disingenuous

imustsaymymindo:


Good question, bro.

But one of my explanations for that would be that, unlike Nigeria, legit Japa provides a much more global ascension and fair playing ground.

First, my premise is based on the fact that maybe most successful Lawyers weren't meant to be Lawyers in the first place but chose the profession as it was hot cake back then so as not to be unsuccessful in Nigeria, the same way people are choosing tech now because of USD earning or petroleum those periods to eat out of the national cake/resource. And that's why so many zoologists are Lawyers today in Nigeria, so many magicians are fake herbalists/pastors/imams, so many weapon-skilled men are doctors, and so many doctors are serial killers. Why? Everybody wants to make money. However, Japa allows you to be a magician, a hunter, a zoologist, or even a cleaner as the OP said, and still be fulfilled and successful. And you may never know this truth most times until you Japa even if you were successful over here in a popular profession. Who knew Samklef would excel better as a blogger than a music producer? Or does Pepenazi excels as a Pastor than as a Musician? And I am sure they feel fulfilled doing this together with making money .

Making money doesn't necessarily makes you fulfilled. Most especially when what you are doing to make money is not necessarily what you have passion for. Making money and feeling fulfilled are not the same thing.
Many immigrants forgo being fulfilled for making money because of the environment they find themselves