Uniquekriss:
I guess your short of 20k dollars should be up to 8million naira now, keep grinding, try and hangout more, there are so many Nigerians in Canada who are making it.

morinto:

The western world is just design to make u comfortable and not rich. The more you earn the more you are been tax and bills increases.

Osewa03:


The way I decided to live my life is none of your business. So, if I have the means and the time, I will visit countless time in a year. Thanks

Your life must be rubbish then and if you come on here on a public forum to tell us about your sad and lonely life that makes it everyone's business including mine. Dammm!! you are one sad soul, it isn't my fault you are sad and lonely, from your cold atitude no wonder you are lonely.. ofcourse, you would visit countless times because you are not capable or civilised enough to make friends where you are at, hence you keep running back to the backwards uncivilised country you have left supposedly.


Next time keep your sad and lonely life to yourself don't come here to disturb us, there is no such thing as loneliness, your life is what you make it.

RichAbujaGuy:


Very well said, I recently saw this interesting video.

What $88,000 Will Buy you in Zimbabwe top Neighborhood


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duf8vK0JlSU

topemama1:


Most Nigerians who moved there are well educated but they mostly do menial jobs. Canada is a very welcoming country but the most of the best brains and talents from other countries do shittty jobs there which is sad.

yes I am a medical doctor at one of the best hospitals in Houston, USA for your info.

sukkot:
AHHH I JUST CORRECTED SOME TYPOS AND MISTAKES. HOpEfully YOU GOT THE MESSAGE ANYWAY DESPITE ALL THAT. and yes my point was not to focus on the quality of living different places have to offer, my point is that working no matter the job or how much you think you are making or saving cannot make you rich.

Possible1805:


Na yahoo boys Dey make am

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

UyaiIncomparabl:


Speak for yourself. Everyone isn't a social butterfly. So, they will cope. Your experience may be different from another person's own, so I don't know what you mean by a better option for where to live. I have friends who tell me going to and living in Canada was the best decision they took.

Go through this thread from start to finish, people love it and do not regret relocating to Canada. Someone like me will thrive there without complaints. I sometimes wish I could be alone in the whole of this hellhole, it's too noisy and extraverted for my liking. So, my dear Pansophist, say you would never live there, and stop imagining what hell of a kind of person would stay there.

faithfull18:
Let's trade places . You will be fine.

In this life, knowing what you want, why you want it, is very essential. One has to live above the noise and know why you are doing what you are doing.

But OP, some people are enjoying this abroad you are complaining about, such is life. What works for one may not work for the other.

What am I saying sef, long story short, know what you want, why you want it and why you are doing what you are doing, avoid the crowd mentality or the 'everybody is doing it' thingy.

tshtsh:

I get your point and always emphasize that if one wants to be rich the chances are more attainable in Nigeria than any western country.

IbeOkehie:


This is not true and can be easily debunked. How many dollar millionaires per capita are there in each country? That would be a start. And the unemployment rate of 33% vs 3.5%, you gotta have a job first, right? Let's be serious please.

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

tshtsh:

How many immigrant Nigerians became dollar millionaires in USA, Canada , UK or UAE ? How many even made it upper class ? Nigeria is an emerging economy and for almost anything you want to do in a developed economy there are multiple people that have been doing it for more than 20 years. Even shoemaking or tailoring you'll find family businesses that have been doing it for more than 100 years. Competition is less in Nigeria if you are innovative and get your funding right.

Regarding unemployment, an employee will likely be better off in the developed world than in nigeria but an enterpreneur aspiring to make it big like dangote or jim ovia or mike adenuga will have a better shot in Nigeria. An immigrant nigerian is not likely to be able to start a bank that will compete with JP Morgan or TD bank in north america. The indians and the chinese even have a better shot at becoming rich in US/Canada/UK than black africans

BigIyanga:

Keep deceiving yourself. Too many Nigerians are upper class and middle class.
Compare a Nigerian medical doctor with a Naija-US medical doctor.
Compare a nurse in Naija vs a Nurse US.
Compare an accountant in Naija vs an Accountant in US.
How many of Naija professionals in Naija rise to be upperclass without stealing or getting into politics??

tshtsh:

Oga I live in canada (Toronto) and have lived in USA(Bethesda) . I have also worked in Nigeria(Lagos). Nigerians are no where near upper class in USA or Canada. I am not comparing a doctor in Nigeria vs a doctor in USA. I am comparing a doctor in USA with the founder/CMD of Lagoon hospital Ikoyi or a Nigerian pediatric physician in Mayoclinic with the Founder/CEO of Evercare hospital in Lekki. I am not comparing employees in north america with their counterparts in Nigeria rather I am comparing employees in North america with businessmen in Nigeria. Some people get tired of being in the middle class and want to move up thus decide to move back to africa where it is more attainable

When I worked in Lagos as a software engineer my take home was just a little over 600k naira monthly at age 25. When I moved to canada my first income as a software engineer was $8,300 (3840 bi-weekly) monthly hence I earned better and was in the middle class. But If I want to make a lot more money it is easier for me to raise capital and set up a fin-tech or software company in Nigeria. Those who did so successfully are making good cash in Nigeria far more than what we employees in north america make.

Show me a Nigerian that has become an executive VP at google or that has become CEO at yahoo inc or that have become a partner at KPMG HQ . Among the few immigrants that make it to the top you will mostly find people from asia before you find any Nigerian.

BigIyanga:

Your comparison is out of place.
Compare CMD of Ikoyi Hospital vs Dr Maduka CMD of Vegas Pain Clinic.
Too many Doctors as business owners and employees cant be compared with their Naija counterparts .
Apt comparison is US employee vs Naija employee in the same field and qualification.
If you compare Naija entrepreneurs vs US Naija entrepreneurs, in the US get funded easily if you have right product/service while in Naija, if you dont have connect and $$.. good luck.

tshtsh:


Vegas Pain hospital is a very small primary care centre and not comparable to evercare or lagoon in terms of size, number of services offered, number of physicians employed and number of patients treated. If it was so good at Vegas Pain and life in USA was all why has maduka tried to involve himself in anambra politics so much ? Why has he been investing in Nigeria rather than expanding his medical practice across Nevada and the who of USA ? Most of us are more comfortable in north america but deep down I will rather be successful in Africa than here. South Africa was even my first choice place to work .

We may never agree on this issue but there are levels to these things and even among Africans the americans rate Ethiopians higher than Nigerians. All that talk about Nigerians being the most educated blacks in USA is because of the population of Nigerians not because Nigerians are high up there. In Greater Toronto Area the cities of Richmond Hill and Markham are expensive neighborhoods occupied mostly by immigrants from Hong Kong. The average price of a house is over $1 milllion. In Vancouver the laws were modified to reduce the inflow of investments from asian millionaires in the property market. Brampton is dominated by wealthy indians. There is no neighborhood in USA or Canada known to house wealthy Nigerian-immigrants because Nigerian immigrants have not yet been able to acquire the level of wealth and influence there counterparts from asia posses. The kind of wealth that will make them dominate a district

When I lived in Maryland I once visited a nigerian in Potomac (an expensive neighborhood). The man was a retired judge at the supreme court of Nigeria. He showed me mansions belonging to Nigerians but they were all ex-governors (Uzor kalu, former gov of kogi state, atiku and a nigerian business man). You have pockets of upper middle class nigerians here and there in USA but nothing compared to the wealthy businessmen in Nigeria like cosmos maduka, chukwuma innosson, ABC Orjiakor, mike adenuga, akintola williams and many more.

Uniquekriss:
I guess your short of 20k dollars should be up to 8million naira now, keep grinding, try and hangout more, there are so many Nigerians in Canada who are making it.

Uniquekriss:
I guess your short of 20k dollars should be up to 8million naira now, keep grinding, try and hangout more, there are so many Nigerians in Canada who are making it.

vicfajeze:
,Hav u gøne dia b4?

tshtsh:

How many immigrant Nigerians became dollar millionaires in USA, Canada , UK or UAE ? How many even made it upper class ? Nigeria is an emerging economy and for almost anything you want to do in a developed economy there are multiple people that have been doing it for more than 20 years. Even shoemaking or tailoring you'll find family businesses that have been doing it for more than 100 years. Competition is less in Nigeria if you are innovative and get your funding right.

Regarding unemployment, an employee will likely be better off in the developed world than in nigeria but an enterpreneur aspiring to make it big like dangote or jim ovia or mike adenuga will have a better shot in Nigeria. An immigrant nigerian is not likely to be able to start a bank that will compete with JP Morgan or TD bank in north america. The indians and the chinese even have a better shot at becoming rich in US/Canada/UK than black africans

How many immigrant Nigerians became dollar millionaires in USA, Canada , UK or UAE ? How many even made it upper class ?

Nigeria is an emerging economy and for almost anything you want to do in a developed economy there are multiple people that have been doing it for more than 20 years. Even shoemaking or tailoring you'll find family businesses that have been doing it for more than 100 years. Competition is less in Nigeria if you are innovative and get your funding right.

BigIyanga:


If you compare Naija entrepreneurs vs US Naija entrepreneurs, in the US, younget funded easily if you have right product/service while in Naija, if you dont have connect and $$.. good luck.

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

I love the way you ranted here... it'll provide some therapeutic effects for you. This thread shows that you are NOT alone and will surmount the odds. . You have to diversify your income streams though for true financial independence.


All the best

BigIyanga:

Your comparison is out of place.
Compare CMD of Ikoyi Hospital vs Dr Maduka CMD of Vegas Pain Clinic.
Too many Doctors as business owners and employees cant be compared with their Naija counterparts .
Apt comparison is US employee vs Naija employee in the same field and qualification.
If you compare Naija entrepreneurs vs US Naija entrepreneurs, in the US, younget funded easily if you have right product/service while in Naija, if you dont have connect and $$.. good luck.

ayinba1:


But he was very clear to describe what two groups he compared. It was not apples to apples and he did it in context.

tshtsh:

Oga I live in canada (Toronto) and have lived in USA(Bethesda) . I have also worked in Nigeria(Lagos). Nigerians are no where near upper class in USA or Canada. I am not comparing a doctor in Nigeria vs a doctor in USA. I am comparing a doctor in USA with the founder/CMD of Lagoon hospital Ikoyi or a Nigerian pediatric physician in Mayoclinic with the Founder/CEO of Evercare hospital in Lekki. I am not comparing employees in north america with their counterparts in Nigeria rather I am comparing employees in North america with businessmen in Nigeria. Some people get tired of being in the middle class and want to move up thus decide to move back to africa where it is more attainable

When I worked in Lagos as a software engineer my take home was just a little over 600k naira monthly at age 25. When I moved to canada my first income as a software engineer was $8,300 (3840 bi-weekly) monthly hence I earned better and was in the middle class. But If I want to make a lot more money it is easier for me to raise capital and set up a fin-tech or software company in Nigeria. Those who did so successfully are making good cash in Nigeria far more than what we employees in north america make.

Show me a Nigerian that has become an executive VP at google or that has become CEO at yahoo inc or that have become a partner at KPMG HQ . Among the few immigrants that make it to the top you will mostly find people from asia before you find any Nigerian.

IbeOkehie:




Maybe he did or he didn't, my own contention is simple - the assertion that it's easier for a Nigerian to become a dollar millionaire in Nigeria than in the US/UK/Canada is still wrong. It's easy to pick this or that person or situation, I prefer to look at the data and where there's strong arguments on a particular facet of an issue, I go to broad measures.

There's no way at all that his assertion is true. The budget of the Federal Government of Nigeria has been running around $21 billion for the past 5 years, Nigerians abroad remit anywhere from $10 to 25 billion every year through official channels. [i]Nigerians abroad are the ones keeping Nigeria afloat, [/i]not crude oil. When you think about broad measures like this, you realize how POOR Nigerians are as a whole. I could go on and on with all kinds of data, so you have to understand why it's hard to convince me that it's easier to make money in Nigeria than the West.

How many foreign investors have pulled out of Nigeria in the past decade? Even Exxon Mobil, a major energy company, has pulled out of the Nigeria retail fuel market, yes they did and I bet you many Nigerians don't know this.

https://www.ogj.com/general-interest/article/17250725/exxonmobil-sells-nigerian-retail-business

Think about it, Exxon Mobil pulling out of a major crude oil & natural gas producing country like Nigeria. They like to make money but apparently, for some reason, they find it hard to do in Nigeria. People should look into WHY they divested. What other EVIDENCE do you want me to look at? The truth is in the data, go check out the foreign investment inflow data for Nigeria. It's a simple thing!

I PERSONALLY know MANY people who have invested HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of US dollars in all sorts of ventures in Nigeria since the early 1990's, from farming to fishery to IT to agro processing to real estate, the VAST MAJORITY lost almost all their money, including ME, yes, I did it too.

Where is this money in Nigeria biko nu? Please people let us rest.....Nigeria is a Communist country and communist countries don't prosper.