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MaxInDHouse:
The Ark is physical the organization is spiritual so only friends of peace could find peace inside while enemies of peace takes their leave!

Let him compare how the lives of those apostates before and after. He'll see the point
Let him compare the lives of the apostates with those who are still faithful
Other people that leave religious groups just silently leave but the ones who chose to disassociate from Jehovah's people to Satan's camp are given work to do. To make noises and draw people from light into the darkness they were in. Don't forget that while they were in the light, they had joy using time, energy and zeal in helping people into the light as they work under the oversight of Jesus Christ
Satan is working, the demons are working, his news comrades are also working. Their works reflect no joy but frustration. They work day and night trying to paint us bad as well as spread propaganda.
They are under real torment but we'll continue to blow the flame of torment as they keep seeing our works being blessed.

Aemmyjah:
Let him compare how the lives of those apostates before and after. He'll see the point
Let him compare the lives of the apostates with those who are still faithful
Other people that leave religious groups just silently leave but the ones who chose to disassociate from Jehovah's people to Satan's camp are given work to do. To make noises and draw people from light into the darkness they were in. Don't forget that while they were in the light, they had joy using time, energy and zeal in helping people into the light as they work under the oversight of Jesus Christ
Satan is working, the demons are working, his news comrades are also working. Their works reflect no joy but frustration. They work day and night trying to paint us bad as well as spread propaganda.
They are under real torment but we'll continue to blow the flame of torment as they keep seeing our works being blessed.

I wonder how some people do use their brains.
This case is the simplest even a toddler can easily solve it!

I live in Nigeria but felt Nigerian government or the people aren't good for anything so i left Nigeria only for me to continue complaining about Nigeria where I live presently yet unable to mention the name of the country where i now lives that's better than Nigeria.
What does that tells any right thinking person?

MaxInDHouse:
The Ark is physical the organization is spiritual so only friends of peace could find peace inside while enemies of peace takes their leave!

But your organisation has $billions of dollas in physical assets

MindHacker9009:
But your organisation has $billions of dollas in physical assets

Just as Noah had all the animals in pairs yet his own brothers, sisters, aunt, uncle, cousins are missing in the Ark not to talk of his wife's and the relatives of his son's wives.

Do you think all those people never related with Noah outside the Ark?

Well they do but when it's time for peace making with JEHOVAH only Noah, his wife, Shem, Ham, Japheth with their wives entered the Ark with animals like lions, tigers, bears, wolves, crocodiles, snakes, cheetahs and many more all of whom have become PEACEFUL!

MaxInDHouse:
I wonder how some people do use their brains.
This case is the simplest even a toddler can easily solve it!

I live in Nigeria but felt Nigerian government or the people aren't good for anything so i left Nigeria only for me to continue complaining about Nigeria where I live presently yet unable to mention the name of the country where i now lives that's better than Nigeria.
What does that tells any right thinking person?

Nice illustration, wisdom full your head

Obviously, those in better countries will mention and brag about it and show the evidence.

These ones that talk nonsense about Jehovah's people are like those in Somalia or Afghanistan. Who will mention that he or she is living in such land? They are free to blame sha
Our organization is the most unique. We as Jehovah's servants are eating and drinking and enjoying our heritage. I can't remember that verse that says so 'my servants will eat... They will rejoice...'

They don't want to eat what we are eating, they claim to have better meals. Ask them to show you what they eat, they don't want to uncover empty plates for us to see but they want us to be like them

Attention: Aemmyjah

Christianity believes that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

The Torah states that God cannot not take any form.:

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

"You did not see any form on the day God spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

As little as we may know about God's nature, Judaism has always believed that God is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. God is Eternal, He is Infinite; above time and beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die.

Christianity denies the eternal relevance of Torah Law, basing the concept of the New Testament on a mistranslation of a verse in Jeremiah
In Jeremiah 31:30 the Hebrew states: "Henei yamim baim Neum Hashem VeCharati Brit Chadash" They translate: "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new Testament with the house of Israel "

"Brit" does not mean Testament. Throughout Scripture "Brit" means covenant. See for example Genesis 17:2, 15:18 Exodus 24:8, Leviticus 26:42, Numbers 25:12.

It is a fundamental principle of Judaism that the Torah received at Sinai will never be changed nor become obsolete. This concept is mentioned in the Torah no less than 24 times, with the words: "This is an eternal law for all generations"

(Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy29:28)

It is absurd to accept the Divine origin of the Torah yet deny it's eternal relevance. Judaism is a religion of action; it has always taught that through performance of the commandments one declares the belief of the heart. To dispense with the legal body of the Torah and reduce it to a book of morals would cut it down to less than half it's size. Can this really be the meaning of those words an eternal law for all generations

Aemmyjah:
Nice illustration, wisdom full your head

Obviously, those in better countries will mention and brag about it and show the evidence.

These ones that talk nonsense about Jehovah's people are like those in Somalia or Afghanistan. Who will mention that he or she is living in such land? They are free to blame sha
Our organization is the most unique. We as Jehovah's servants are eating and drinking and enjoying our heritage. I can't remember that verse that says so 'my servants will eat... They will rejoice...'

They don't want to eat what we are eating, they claim to have better meals. Ask them to show you what they eat, they don't want to uncover empty plates for us to see but they want us to be like them

My brother it's as simple as ABC!

They were Jehovah's Witnesses before but now they're members of what religious group?

sonmvayina:
Attention: Aemmyjah

Christianity believes that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

The Torah states that God cannot not take any form.:

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

"You did not see any form on the day God spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

As little as we may know about God's nature, Judaism has always believed that God is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. God is Eternal, He is Infinite; above time and beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die.

Christianity denies the eternal relevance of Torah Law, basing the concept of the New Testament on a mistranslation of a verse in Jeremiah
In Jeremiah 31:30 the Hebrew states: "Henei yamim baim Neum Hashem VeCharati Brit Chadash" They translate: "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new Testament with the house of Israel "

"Brit" does not mean Testament. Throughout Scripture "Brit" means covenant. See for example Genesis 17:2, 15:18 Exodus 24:8, Leviticus 26:42, Numbers 25:12.

It is a fundamental principle of Judaism that the Torah received at Sinai will never be changed nor become obsolete. This concept is mentioned in the Torah no less than 24 times, with the words: "This is an eternal law for all generations"

(Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy29:28)

It is absurd to accept the Divine origin of the Torah yet deny it's eternal relevance. Judaism is a religion of action; it has always taught that through performance of the commandments one declares the belief of the heart. To dispense with the legal body of the Torah and reduce it to a book of morals would cut it down to less than half it's size. Can this really be the meaning of those words an eternal law for all generations

I and the Father 'ARE' one
Are separates two distinct persons right? That words should tell one able to comprehend English that Jesus meant unity in purpose

John 17:22
I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that THEY MAY BE ONE just as WE ARE ONE. 23 I in UNION with them and you in UNION with me, in order that they may be perfected into ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.

From those verses, was Jesus Christ praying that his 11 disciples combine into one person or that they be united. Note that he prayed that his disciples become one just as he and the Father are one. What does that mean??

Jesus said a man will stick to his wife and become ONE flesh. What does that mean?

Stop saying Christianity says this or that unless it is based on scriptures

Jesus Christ is the Son of God and savior or the world

Aemmyjah:
I and the Father 'ARE' one
Are separates two distinct persons right? That words should tell one able to comprehend English that Jesus meant unity in purpose

John 17:22
I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that THEY MAY BE ONE just as WE ARE ONE. 23 I in UNION with them and you in UNION with me, in order that they may be perfected into ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.

From those verses, was Jesus Christ praying that his 11 disciples combine into one person or that they be united. Note that he prayed that his disciples become one just as he and the Father are one. What does that mean??

Jesus said a man will stick to his wife and become ONE flesh. What does that mean?

Stop saying Christianity says this or that unless it is based on scriptures

Jesus Christ is the Son of God and savior or the world

According to who?

Who are you following ?


Show me one place where the Messiah is coming to die for sins..

Continue to be in denial

sonmvayina:
According to who?

Who are you following ?


Show me one place where the Messiah is coming to die for sins..

Continue to be in denial

You claim to know the Torah yet you ask me silly questions
Go and read the Torah again and answer your question

Aemmyjah:
You claim to know the Torah yet you ask me silly questions
Go and read the Torah again and answer your question

Show me..

Point me to the part....
Prove your claim

MaxInDHouse:
Just as Noah had all the animals in pairs yet his own brothers, sisters, aunt, uncle, cousins are missing in the Ark not to talk of his wife's and the relatives of his son's wives.

Do you think all those people never related with Noah outside the Ark?

Well they do but when it's time for peace making with JEHOVAH only Noah, his wife, Shem, Ham, Japheth with their wives entered the Ark with animals like lions, tigers, bears, wolves, crocodiles, snakes, cheetahs and many more all of whom have become PEACEFUL!

Did those that entered Noah's Ark come out of the Ark and there never was any flood as predicted. But the ark or act of your organisation is false predictions. see the list dates of all failed predictions your organisation has made so far:

Incorrectly promoted teachings on the following dates that they no longer accept:
1906
1910
1914
1915
1917
1918
1920
1921
1925
1926
1928
1932
1935
1940s
1951
1975
2000

Source:
Note that any mention of your organisation's name leads to a ban here!

guysbewise:
Did those that entered Noah's Ark come out of the Ark and there never was any flood as predicted. But the ark or act of your organisation is false predictions. see the list dates of all failed predictions your organisation has made so far:

Incorrectly promoted teachings on the following dates that they no longer accept:
1906
1910
1914
1915
1917
1918
1920
1921
1925
1926
1928
1932
1935
1940s
1951
1975
2000

Source:
Note that any mention of your organisation's name leads to a ban here!

Please paste a publication of JW with a specific date that says the anything about the so called false predictions e.g.
29-11-2022 and the so called prediction.
Thanks God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
Please paste a publication of JW with a specific date that says the anything about the so called false predictions e.g.
29-11-2022 and the so called prediction.
Thanks God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Not sure why you mentioned 29-11-2022. In order to avoid a ban I cannot post any of such predictions as any mention about your organisation results in a bann here

guysbewise:
Not sure why you mentioned 29-11-2022. In order to avoid a ban I cannot post any of such predictions as any mention about your organisation results in a bann here

Thanks for your time!

guysbewise:
Not sure why you mentioned 29-11-2022. In order to avoid a ban I cannot post any of such predictions as any mention about your organisation results in a bann here

I only gave you a SPECIFIC DATE as example because if we have to go by the analogy of most ridiculers like you John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, Paul the apostle, John the Apostle all made false predictions!

Note that in the first century both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth claimed that the Kingdom of God is at hand {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} ọmọ that's some 2,000 years ago now and nothing has happened. Apostle Paul and John also said something similar in the first century yet nothing happened to the world.

So instead of blurring your senses with what you don't understand why not ask us to teach you or better still tell you the reason God's organization keep proclaiming the end until now? 2Peter 3:3-4

Well i just want you to know that there was no false predictions it's ridiculers that's been peddling all that to blur your senses but if you choose to allow yourself to be carried away with their rificules it's OK, we know why it's so.
Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
I only gave you a SPECIFIC DATE as example because if we have to go by the analogy of most ridiculers like you John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, Paul the apostle, John the Apostle all made false predictions!

Note that in the first century both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth claimed that the Kingdom of God is at hand {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} ọmọ that's some 2,000 years ago now and nothing has happened. Apostle Paul and John also said something similar in the first century yet nothing happened to the world.

So instead of blurring your senses with what you don't understand why not ask us to teach you or better still tell you the reason God's organization keep proclaiming the end until now? 2Peter 3:3-4

Well i just want you to know that there was no false predictions it's ridiculers that's been peddling all that to blur your senses but if you choose to allow yourself to be carried away with their rificules it's OK, we know why it's so.
Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Your organisation's failed predictions have really blurred your senses.

May you have CALMNESS to let me teach you about the GOD of Noah that never makes any failed predictions and not the god of the New Testament Jesus created by the Roman empire to blur your senses

guysbewise:
Your organisation's failed predictions have really blurred your senses.

May you have CALMNESS to let me teach you about the GOD of Noah that never makes any failed predictions and not the god of the New Testament Jesus created by the Roman empire to blur your senses

Good one!

Well i have no business whatsoever with the God of Noah because He never sent anyone to teach me anything. Unless you can show me where the God of Noah ordered you to teach others around you apart from your own kids then i will know that Jesus of Nazareth is not needed between you and i.

Meanwhile it's only Jesus of Nazareth that sent his disciples out to go preaching and teaching people of other nations about his God {Matthew 28:19-20} apart from this man nobody was sent to anybody!

MaxInDHouse:
Good one!

Well i have no business whatsoever with the God of Noah because He never sent anyone to teach me anything. Unless you can show me where the God of Noah ordered you to teach others around you apart from your own kids then i will know that Jesus of Nazareth is not needed between you and i.

Meanwhile it's only Jesus of Nazareth that sent his disciples out to go preaching and teaching people of other nations about his God {Matthew 28:19-20} apart from this man nobody was sent to anybody!

You are just very funny

Who is jesus?

How do you know Mathew, mark ,Luke and John where not writing fictions?

You have to unlearn and relearn..

Jesus is a fictional character created by the Roman empire....

sonmvayina:
You are just very funny

Who is jesus?

How do you know Mathew, mark ,Luke and John where not writing fictions?

You have to unlearn and relearn..

Jesus is a fictional character created by the Roman empire....

You've repeated this over and over but you should know that it's not helping your argument as long as there's nobody sent to other nations regarding the Torah except Jesus of Nazareth who commanded his disciples to go preaching and teaching in other lands.

So if you can't find anywhere in your Torah that asked anyone to PREACH or TEACH then there's no reason talking about unlearn or relearn!

MaxInDHouse:
You've repeated this over and over but you should know that it's not helping your argument as long as there's nobody sent to other nations regarding the Torah except Jesus of Nazareth who commanded his disciples to go preaching and teaching in other lands.

So if you can't find anywhere in your Torah that asked anyone to PREACH or TEACH then there's no reason talking about unlearn or relearn!

Then the best you should have done is stick to the religion of your ancestors..

Instead you choose to follow a made up story and character...

How is that wise?

sonmvayina:
Then the best you should have done is stick to the religion of your ancestors..
Instead you choose to follow a made up story and character...
How is that wise?

I choose my own God i don't do follow follow, i worship the God that benefits me not what appeals to people around me!

MaxInDHouse:
You've repeated this over and over but you should know that it's not helping your argument as long as there's nobody sent to other nations regarding the Torah except Jesus of Nazareth who commanded his disciples to go preaching and teaching in other lands.

So if you can't find anywhere in your Torah that asked anyone to PREACH or TEACH then there's no reason talking about unlearn or relearn!

God sent Jonah to Nineveh to PREACH the Torah so the Torah was not for Israel only but for any nation that wants it. The god of Jesus of the New Testament that mated with another man's wife is not the same GOD of the TORAH in the Old Testament. The New Testament god is the Greek god that mates with women

guysbewise:
God sent Jonah to Nineveh to PREACH the Torah so the Torah was not for Israel only but for any nation that wants it. The god of Jesus of the New Testament that mated with another man's wife is not the same GOD of the TORAH in the Old Testament. The New Testament god is the Greek god that mates with women

Can you back the highlighted in the scripture?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you back the highlighted in the scripture?

From which scripture? As you did not accept the scripture I backed it with before

guysbewise:
From which scripture? As you did not accept the scripture I backed it with before

The book of Jonah is just 4 chapters with 48 verses out of 1,189 chapters and 31,200 verses of the Bible.

So quote the verse that says
"Jonah PREACHED TORAH in Nineveh"

Or

"Jonah talked about God's laws in Nineveh"

MaxInDHouse:
I choose my own God i don't do follow follow, i worship the God that benefits me not what appeals to people around me!

From all indication

You made a wrong choice..

sonmvayina:
From all indication
You made a wrong choice..

Visible evidence please!

MaxInDHouse:
The book of Jonah is just 4 chapters with 48 verses out of 1,189 chapters and 31,200 verses of the Bible.

So quote the verse that says
"Jonah PREACHED TORAH in Nineveh"

Or

"Jonah talked about God's laws in Nineveh"

1. Jonah was a prophet, yes or no?
2. Jonah 1:1-2
1 A message from the Lord came to Jonah, the son of Amittai. The Lord said, 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh. Preach against it. The sins of its people have come to my attention.”

guysbewise:
1. Jonah was a prophet, yes or no?
2. Jonah 1:1-2
1 A message from the Lord came to Jonah, the son of Amittai. The Lord said, 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh. Preach against it. The sins of its people have come to my attention.”

Jonah 1:2

Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. ~ Holy Bible

 “Arise, go to Nin′eveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness has come up before me.” ~ Revised Standard

"Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me." ~ NIV

“Get up, go to Ninʹe·veh the great city, and proclaim judgment against her, for their wickedness has come to my attention" ~ New World Translation

Learn from Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

There can't be judgment when the people has no foreknowledge of what they're to keep as laws, that's why God often punish the Israelites for idolatry whereas other nations practice it without punishment from the same God because He never made any covenant with them.

So it's after Jesus of Nazareth sent his disciples to go throughout the earth that individuals begin subjecting themselves to the orders of Jesus of Nazareth. As for the Torah Jonah wasn't in Nineveh to preach what the people never knew nor heard before. He only went there to proclaim a message of doom on that city and out of fear the king commanded his people to change their way of life which is what any normal society will do if they know what they're doing that's bad but thinking it's the commandments given to Israelites that the Ninevites were taught ọmọ that's the joke of the century!

MaxInDHouse:
Jonah 1:2

Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me. ~ Holy Bible

 “Arise, go to Nin′eveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness has come up before me.” ~ Revised Standard

"Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me." ~ NIV

“Get up, go to Ninʹe·veh the great city, and proclaim judgment against her, for their wickedness has come to my attention" ~ New World Translation



Learn from Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

There can't be judgment when the people has no foreknowledge of what they're to keep as laws, that's why God often punish the Israelites for idolatry whereas other nations practice it without punishment from the same God because He never made any covenant with them.

So it's after Jesus of Nazareth sent his disciples to go throughout the earth that individuals begin subjecting themselves to the orders of Jesus of Nazareth. As for the Torah Jonah wasn't in Nineveh to preach what the people never knew nor heard before. He only went there to proclaim a message of doom on that city and out of fear the king commanded his people to change their way of life which is what any normal society will do if they know what they're doing that's bad but thinking it's the commandments given to Israelites that the Ninevites were taught ọmọ that's the joke of the century!

So what did the people of Nineveh change their way to that is not in the Torah. You need to read all 613 laws of the Old Testament https://www.jmu.edu/dukehallgallery/exhibitions-past-2018-2019/the-613-mitzvot.shtml to know that Jonah must have told them about the laws in the Torah