Truthdeypain:


Why are you guys so fucking stupid, wicked and evil.

The question is why only the EAST, why?

Una go dey answer question wey dem no ask una. Bloody fools.

Is it only the East ? Is that true? What it you are proven wrong ? Do some research and speak based on facts

Your assumption that it is ONLY the East is False and your response is overly emotional. Get the facts!!

omonnakoda:
You are illiterate and unruly

Did Nigeria start now? Others paid toll for decades so do not twist reality

With regard to now go and do your research for information that is all over the internet. Not only is it all over the internet it is on Nairaland in SEVERAL threads . I will not do your homework for you

Your premise that the SE is being singled out for tolls is simply false. Failing to educate yourself on that and then coming out to spread sentiment based on LIES makes YOU what?
Always emotional, always sentimental always reacting to and spreading falsehood to propagate a sense of vivtimhood

Bia better go find somewhere siddon, I know fellows like you who will justify every evil that is done against IGBOs. It matters not whether it is fair or not.

You claim like you have any sense of openess about your assertions whereas it's all veiled in ethnic hatred and bullying.

I bet you views would not hold same if your useless tribe was involved. Waste!

quentin06:


Obasanjo removed tolls because those collecting the tolls could not account for the funds, the monies were not even used to maintain the roads, so why pay tolls if a few crooks just share the money?

Nothing to do with concession, you can only claim right concession when you contribute money to build something.

Stop misleading people with your false sense of history.

YOu sound very aggressive ?
There was a concession company that was in court with the FG and whilst the court case was going on Obasanjo dismantled the tollgates, do you dispute that?
I do not know why Obasanjo did what he did or his public explanation but I know what he did so what exactly is your point?

DMerciful:
Why didnt they start with other completed bridges before now?

Clearly the East is singled out. Yesterday,
they cancelled the Eastern 'Maiduguri rail line, today they're tolling the 2nd Niger Bridge.....

Nigeria has got it coming alright.

Problem with you is that you take pride in your ignorance. To look but not to see

They are "STARTING" tolling with this one?
Tolling started in Lagos when it restarts there is no indication it will be with this one

You folk are very emotional............like women

omonnakoda:
YOu sound very aggressive ?
There was a concession company that was in court with the FG and whilst the court case was going on Obasanjo dismantled the tollgates, do you dispute that?
I do not know why Obasanjo did what he or his public explanation did but I know what he did so what exactly is your point?

Am just reacting to your comment , if you think what I said is wrong counter it, dont attack me, so responding to an erroneous post is a form of aggression , grow up.

If the govt want to collect tolls on bridges it build it should apply to other locations where it built bridges, I am talking consistency. You sound like someone who has never paid any toll before. If you did you would understand why the person you were bashing was complaining.

Travel around and see what is happening in your country , leave for couch and get some sunshine, it wont hurt your brain.

quentin06:


Am just reacting to your comment , if you think what I said is wrong counter it, dont attack me, so responding to an erroneous post is a form of aggression , grow up.

If the govt want to collect tolls on bridges it build it should apply to other locations where it built bridges, I am talking consistency. You sound like someone who has never paid any toll before. If you did you would understand why the person you were bashing was complaining.

Travel around and see what is happening in your country , leave for couch and get some sunshine, it wont hurt your brain.

So what was erroneous in my post please specify as succinctly as possible?

omonnakoda:
A lot of people disrespect Igbos claimin they are sentimental and not logical. WHy not prove them wrong . Are you capable of a logical discussion based of facts and figures like a man? Calling me evil is what I expect from a woman.
Unnecessary sentimentality.
Which Federal government bridge in the West compares to this ?
This is not just a "Bridge" The project includes several kilometres of motorway and there is an alternative bridge that is not tolled
It is along with the motorway one of the costliest projects in the country
The FG has a new tolling policy to toll motorways across the country. It does not single out the SE try and find the policy , read it and talk rationally . Bringing in emotive words like EVIL is what one expects from a 9 year old not an adult

Well written. Mr logic and objective is it logical to conclude that IGBOS are not logical and objective. Is that not an Incomprehensive generalisation and an illogical comment.

On what premise do you adopt or refute such assertion? What statistics or measuremsnts determine the proportion of logical and sentimental people per average in any given tribe?

Do you see your own hypocrisy?

Whatever these policy documents say do you think the average man cares for them, what does the average man in the north, east, west or anywhere care for is that they are paying taxes for a project the government claims to have done for them, while their fellows in other regions are not. Is this too difficult for you to understand?

And they just had to begin this policy with the IGBOS knowing how sensitive and margiinalized these folks have always been?

My last question for you is Just forget for a minuite wherever you come from, if you were an Igbo blood would you be excited by this news or see it as injustice?

Truthdeypain:


Ode a simple question is all I ask.

Of all the billions of projects done and being done in the West and the North, where had this been the case and did this just begin with the IGBOs?

Is this fair at all considering IGBOS have really been marginalised since time immemorial?

Answer thou shameless, lying, hateful, hypocrite

Oga chief liar and full of deceit, so you are not aware that Lagos - Ibadan express was tolled before and will be a toll road again, and others over the country will see the return of tolls been installed. Is Lekki - mainland road not tolled? But then the son of wailers will not know that since they have this inferiority complex and full of deceit, lies and propaganda

Truthdeypain:


Well written. Mr logic and objective is it logical to conclude that IGBOS are not logical and objective. Is that not an Incomprehensive generalisation and an illogical comment.

On what premise do you adopt or refute such assertion? What statistics or measuremsnts determine the proportion of logical and sentimental people per average in any given tribe?

Do you see your own hypocrisy?

Whatever these policy documents so do you think the average man cares for them what dies the average man in the north, east, west or anywhere care for us that they are paying taxes for a project the government claims to have done for them, while their fellows in other regions are not. Is this too difficult for you to understand?

And they just had to begin this policy with the IGBOS knowing how sensitive and margiinalized these folks have always been?

My lady question for you because I admit you sound like a reasonable fellow.. Just forget for a minuite where'd wherever you come from if you were an Igbo blood would you be excited by this news or see it as injustice?

What evidence is there that the first tollgates in the implementation of this policy will be on this bridge?
DO you have any such evidence? No you do not .
We simply do not have that information

So what if it starts on this bridge? Where should it start? It must start somewhere .Why not suggest where it should start if not here

Like I said you are always emotional allowing yourselves to be overwhelmed by emotions unnecessarily

For years the only tollgate in the country was in Lagos. No one said all these rubbish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPwDbEtKenU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_r8t1WcIA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxLnRTWU9lM

Government extorting its people ...

I really do not know why these people are always emotional

What was the deal when the project was commenced? Was this not explicit from the beginning? Why pretend now as if this was never explicit from the get go? Where did the money to build the bridge come from and what is the model?

Too many indirect tax created by this clueless governance

omonnakoda:

What evidence is there that the first tollgates in the implementation of this policy will be on this bridge?
DO you have any such evidence? No you do not .
We simply do not have that information

So what if it starts on this bridge? Where should it start? It must start somewhere .Why not suggest where it should start if not here

Like I said you are always emotional allowing yourselves to be overwhelmed by emotions unnecessarily

For years the only tollgate in the country was in Lagos. No one said all these rubbish

Okay oo, I'll keep my rubbish to myself, you only answered one of my questions. Long live the unified, Great Nation of Nigeria where justice, equity and Good conscience reigns supreme.

Indeed this is a very wonderful project in which we, all IGBOS are proud of, we hope to commence payment of the bridge as quickly as possible, we are very priviledgd to have been single out by the FG of Nigeria.

Long Live Naija!

Truthdeypain:



Okay oo, I'll keep my rubbish to myself, you only answered one of my questions. Long live the unified, Great Nation of Nigeria where justice, equity and Good conscience reigns supreme.

Indeed this is a very wonderful project in which we, all IGBOS are proud of, we hope to commence payment of the bridge as quickly as possible, we are very priviledgd to have been single out by the FG of Nigeria.

Long Live Naija!

The truth is that we were tolled for decades in Lagos.If we wanted to go to Ibadan we must pay toll and that was the ONLY one in the country for years. That is an undisputable fact so do not forget that

Also The FG has a policy for tolling that does not in any way discriminate against the SE . If you did not know find out and stop spreading toxicity

Just google = Road Toll Fashola

I believe obi will definitely renegotiate the terms and conditions in which the bridge was built if he wins the toll gates will be totally removed. No federal govt project in the south east and south south is supposed to be tolled because that's the areas the money used in constructing major projects in other parts of nigeria is coming from.

No problem.
It's worth it

Wagwanbrethren:
Governments constantly run a budget deficit, at every level. So for those who might say 'how about tax' no, taxes aren't always enough.

Toll bridges are a little different. Big bridges are incredibly expensive to construct, so the builders need a way to recuperate that enormous loss of cash. Whether the bridge was built by a government, the private sector, or a partnership of the two, projects like that are only viable if they can partially pay for themselves through tolls. For example, the Ambassador Bridge (the busiest crossing on the USA_ Canada states border) is 100% privately owned, and earns the owner about $60,000,000 per year in revenue.
In theory, the tolls pay for repairs, maintenance, and upgrades for the road. In practice, however, abuses occurs. Occasionally the toll money goes to projects besides the road itself. But generally the toll roads are better maintained and thus less wear and tear on.

Truth is, government has to recover part of the cost of making new highways. It must not be forever. After 10 years it should be discontinued.
It depends on how construction and maintenance was financed. Every so often, the taxpayers agree to build a bridge. Other times they may object to the cost and only agree to partial funding. In that case, people using the bridge are charged a toll until the costs are paid off. In some cases, it’s never paid off.

Recover which cost the money used in constructing the bridge is it not mainly from oil and gas proceeds from the SS/SE? Why didn't the federal govt also recover the cost they used in constructing the third mainland bridge if that's the case!

Truthdeypain:


Why are you guys so fucking stupid, wicked and evil.

The question is why only the EAST, why?

Una go dey answer question wey dem no ask una. Bloody fools.

Lagos ibadan will be tolled. Does that please you now? This is about best practices and not tribalism.

omonnakoda:
Always making noise and talking rubbish
The First Tollgate and Only tollgate for decades was in Lagos on the Lagos _Ibadan expressway which was there from Obasanjo's military government until he came again and removed them when he was civilian president
YES> !!! check

No one made noise no one complained.

You say FG did Zero . What does the East contribute to the Federation Account?
The simple answer is NOTHING NET

What about the PH-Enugu expressway, Aba
What about Abakaliki to Bamenda Road?

People love a narrative that pleases them. If you do not want to pay tolls, use the first bridge. It isn't only Igbos that will use the new bridge but anyone headed to the east, including those from the south south.

People want unaffordable free lunches and tomorrow they start screaming the dollar is now 900 Naira.

JOemmy:


Recover which cost the money used in constructing the bridge is it not mainly from oil and gas proceeds from the SS/SE? Why didn't the federal govt also recover the cost they used in constructing the third mainland bridge if that's the case!

But the only toll gate in Nigeria for decades was the Lagos Ibadan expressway . Why did the FG only remember to toll PH Enugu after decades of tolling Lagos? If you want to go down that line equip yourself with a solid argument and all the facts/
When it suits you remember SS/SE there is nothing like that

With regard to proceeds from oil and gas definitely NOT from the SE how much exactly are we talking about from the SE ? We see the derivation figures. The entire derivation for SE is less than Ondo State

There is a 200 Billion bridge linking Bonny to the mainland so the SS is getting their dues. They have NDDC and Niger Delta ministry

Lagos contributes more than it receives and VAT from Lagos is part of what funds the FG Budget and budget of every single state in the SE and the country. You all chop Lagos VAT so 3rd Mainland is not comparator

Lagos state contributes over 500 billion VAT annually
What does Anambra contribute?

JOemmy:
I believe obi will definitely renegotiate the terms and conditions in which the bridge was built if he wins the toll gates will be totally removed. No federal govt project in the south east and south south is supposed to be tolled because that's the areas the money used in constructing major projects in other parts of nigeria is coming from.

The SE does not contribute to the Federation account . It is a net receiver
The SE budgets in every single state without exception is supported with VAT from Lagos State
The Federal Government budget is also supported with VAT from Lagos State

grandstar:


Lagos ibadan will be tolled. Does that please you now? This is about best practices and not tribalism.

Okay sir.

frank14011991:
For proper maintenance it has to be tolled. Buhari is the best thing to have happened to alaigbo

ekwensu kpor kwa gi oku there

omonnakoda:
But the only toll gate in Nigeria for decades was the Lagos Ibadan expressway . Why did the FG only remember to toll PH Enugu after decades of tolling Lagos? If you want to go down that line equip yourself with a solid argument and all the facts/
When it suits you remember SS/SE there is nothing like that

With regard to proceeds from oil and gas definitely NOT from the SE how much exactly are we talking about from the SE ? We see the derivation figures. The entire derivation for SE is less than Ondo State

There is a 200 Billion bridge linking Bonny to the mainland so the SS is getting their dues. They have NDDC and Niger Delta ministry

Lagos contributes more than it receives and VAT from Lagos is part of what funds the FG Budget and budget of every single state in the SE and the country. You all chop Lagos VAT so 3rd Mainland is not comparator

Lagos state contributes over 500 billion VAT annually
What does Ekiti contribute?

The bolded is more in tune. Your urchin attributes were transparent from the onset, and I very well understand your bias.

Lagos and Anambra is a no comparator on any premise or indices whatsoever, as you should know yet you make such an unsound argument once again. Lagos is everything anambra is not and lagos is what it is by collective efforts of which both Anambarians and IGBOS in general are a reasonable percentage of not to mention colonial history and geographical location.

"IGBOS are always crying victims" "They are always screaming fowl" "They like playing the victim all the time" "They are very sentimental"

With out mincing words you are nothing more than an average afonja who heart and genetic code is designed IGBOPHOBIA, anything to bring them down and keep them down can and will always be justified by your kind. It matters not the situation.

Guess what you and your ilk are not oluwa and no matter what you do you can never kill the spirit of the IGBOMAN.

My last comment to you.

Truthdeypain:


The bolded is more in tune. Your urchin attributes were transparent from the onset, and I very well understand your bias.

Lagos and Anambra is a no comparator on any premise or indices whatsoever, as you should know yet you make such an unsound argument once again. Lagos is everything anambra is not and lagos is what it is by collective efforts of which both Anambarians and IGBOS in general are a reasonable percentage of.

"IGBOS are always crying victims" "They are always screaming fowl" "They like playing the victim all the time" "They are very sentimental"

With out mincing words you are nothing more than an average afonja who heart and genetic code is designed IGBOPHOBIA anything to out them down and keep them down can and will always be justified.

Guess what you and your ilk are not oluwa and no matter what you do you can never kill the spirit of the IGBOMAN.

My last comment to you.

Impotent ranting

JOemmy:


Recover which cost the money used in constructing the bridge is it not mainly from oil and gas proceeds from the SS/SE? Why didn't the federal govt also recover the cost they used in constructing the third mainland bridge if that's the case!

The third Mainland Bridge was built during the IBB regime and it was not their custom to toll new roads or bridges.

Also, Lagos state was primarily the capital around that time and it was built to decongest the severe traffic snarls on Ikorodu road which was the only corridor out of the island to most parts of the mainland at the time.

Tolling it therefore would have defeated the motive of building it which was to end the traffic jams at rush hour.

grandstar:


The third Mainland Bridge was built during the IBB regime and it was not their custom to toll new roads or bridges.

Also, Lagos state was primarily the capital around that time and it was built to decongest the severe traffic snarls on Ikorodu road which was the only corridor out of the island to most parts of the mainland at the time.

Tolling it therefore would have defeated the motive of building it which was to end the traffic jams at rush hour.

3rd mainland is not an interstate road
At the same time as it was completed the only toll gate in Nigeria was the Lagos Ibadan expressway. Other states across the country had federal motorways that were not tolled e.g PH Enugu.
So the picture painted is misleading and inaccurate
There is no comparison between this project an interstate bridge with a motorway and 3rd Mainland
The correct comparator is Lagos Ibadan expressway or PH Enugu expressway or Abakliki Bamenday Motorway

We have already stated how Lagos Ibadan was tolled FOR DECADES has that happened in any other part of Nigeria?

omonnakoda:
3rd mainland is not an interstate road
At the same time as it was completed the only toll gate in Nigeria was the Lagos Ibadan expressway. Other states across the country had federal motorways that were not tolled e.g PH Enugu.
So the picture painted is misleading and inaccurate
There is no comparison between this project an interstate bridge with a motorway and 3rd Mainland
The correct comparator is Lagos Ibadan expressway or PH Enugu expressway or Abakliki Bamenday Motorway

We have already stated how Lagos Ibadan was tolled FOR DECADES has that happened in any other part of Nigeria?

Don't mind these detractors !!! They so much desire a narrative that pleases them!

Wagwanbrethren:
Governments constantly run a budget deficit, at every level. So for those who might say 'how about tax' no, taxes aren't always enough.

Toll bridges are a little different. Big bridges are incredibly expensive to construct, so the builders need a way to recuperate that enormous loss of cash. Whether the bridge was built by a government, the private sector, or a partnership of the two, projects like that are only viable if they can partially pay for themselves through tolls. For example, the Ambassador Bridge (the busiest crossing on the USA_ Canada states border) is 100% privately owned, and earns the owner about $60,000,000 per year in revenue.
In theory, the tolls pay for repairs, maintenance, and upgrades for the road. In practice, however, abuses occurs. Occasionally the toll money goes to projects besides the road itself. But generally the toll roads are better maintained and thus less wear and tear on.

Truth is, government has to recover part of the cost of making new highways. It must not be forever. After 10 years it should be discontinued.
It depends on how construction and maintenance was financed. Every so often, the taxpayers agree to build a bridge. Other times they may object to the cost and only agree to partial funding. In that case, people using the bridge are charged a toll until the costs are paid off. In some cases, it’s never paid off.

Country that doesn’t do tax refund? That doesn’t take care of the vulnerable, country that senators earn more than American president. You the government and your logic dey mad. Sorry if e offend you, but Una Dey mad.

fastseo:
is there any toll gate at the rail that ran through Niger Republic that cost Nigerian government $1.959bn b

This should be look into seriously

...consistent with the strategy of economic sabotage of South-Eastern Nigeria.

1. Toll key transportation links to South East even though loads of noise was made about building the 2nd Niger bridge.

2. Highest number of Police checkpoints per kilometer, in the country, effectively extracting undue tax from motorists and increasing transport fares amongst other inconveniences

3.

Newsmic:


https://igberetvnews.com/1434456/second-niger-bridge-users-will-pay-toll-fg/