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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by ImperialYoruba: 6:16pm On Dec 28, 2022
SilverOrLead:
Hello Seun/Mods,

I have been lurking here for some years now but decided to create an account so as to bring to your attention a disturbing trend I have noticed coming mostly from people of the SE who post here.

It concerns their consistent use of the ambiguous "SS/SE" which they subtly are trying to morph into one.

We all know the history of the disastrous old Eastern region and how minorities from the lower Niger were subject to severe marginalization by the majority Igbo.

We also know how all efforts by the so-called minorities to leave the old eastern region was systematically and ruthlessly shutdown by the Igbo majority in Enugu.

We are also not ignorant of what was the prime motive behind the declaration of Biafra after the Gowon military dictatorship created states which saw to the minorities in the old eastern region being carved out.

We also know how Biafra died a natural death after the annexed minority regions were liberated from the Igbo tyranny known as Biafra.

We are also aware of Igbo attempts to repeat this folly in the form of a revamped Biafran project under the Afro Zionists group IPOB.

Now we are seeing attempts by the Igbos to corral the peoples of the SS under a political and social umbrella by consistently and unrelentlessly deploying the ambiguous SS/SE nomenclature in all their posts regarding this coming elections.

To continue allowing this abhorrent and subversive nomenclature to litter this section is tantamount to bowing to both Igbo expansionist and annexation claims of the SS as well as an insult to the independence of the peoples of the SS, thus a support for Biafra restoration and seccessionism.

The SS is a region of diverse people with distinct cultural, political and tribal identities separate from the larger Igbo polity. Yes, we have Igboid peoples but they have always preferred to not have anything to do with the larger Igbo populace .

I suggest that henceforth, all posts that insists on using the ambiguous and paradoxical wordings of SS/SE be auto censored to " SS and SE" or better yet, the post flagged as spam, deleted and the poster banned.

Thank you.




All those in support say YE.


The YEs have it!

The relief sought by the enlightened OP is hereby granted, pending a stamped and sealed order from Seun.

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DMerciful(m): 6:19pm On Dec 28, 2022
For you info, I'm Igbo from Delta State so I'm not denying my Igboness neither am I denying my origin. You can look at my previous post to know.

Having said that, the Igbo nationality is about the only Nationality is unsatisfied with the status quo and thats why i associate with Igbos from the East. How can any nationality be ok with the worsening standard of living in Nigeria? When you say South south, there's nothing like south south as an homogeneous entity.

Where in the South are you from? This current alignment of SS/SE and SW and NC is to enthrone Obi because the status quo can no longer be allowed to continue
SilverOrLead:


You igbos have refused to accept the end of eastern region .

You know SW, NC, NE, NW and your SE revuib but when it cones to SS you will be asking stupid questions .

FYI, appointments into govt and civil service as well as the security apparatuses must reflect national character as seen in the relevant sections concerning federal character .

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by SilverOrLead: 6:21pm On Dec 28, 2022
Nwaetche:
Some part of South South like Delta and Edo had actually tested Yoruba rule during the first republic.

It is still in history that Mid-west remain the only region created by people voting willingly to leave Western nigeria. The then Oba of Benin was at the forefront of the agitation due to the subjugation from Western Nigeria.

When they eventually got independence, an Igbo man Dennis Chukude Osadebay, a former NCNC leader in Aba in the current Abia state and a native of Asaba became the first premier of Midwest.

So in essence, NCNC headed by Azikiwe was in charge of governement for both the Eastern state( comprising of south south state of Cross river, AKS, RVS and Balyelsa) and Midwest state( comprising of Delta and Edo) before the military takeover and eventual civil war.

People voted willingly to have one party headed by an Igbo man heading the two regions after the mid-west threw away Western government rule.

Your discredited divide and rule only started shortly before, during and after the civil war.




You forgot the part where a Yoruba man moved the motion for plebiscite on the creation of mid western region which the majority Yoruba house in Ibadan quickly adopted and passed.

You forgot to tell us if this was the case in Enugu with every attempt by the so-called minorities shut down by the Igbo majority.

You also forgot to tell us that Osadebe adopted Itsekiri as his tribe .


Let me also remind you also the reason for the Igbo coup , the Igbo decree 34 and Biafra declaration was done to ensure the SS remains a part of the eastern region.

Can you refute any of these ?
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by SilverOrLead: 6:41pm On Dec 28, 2022
Here are a few Igbo lame tactics that exposes their snake bellies while claiming to care and love the people of the SS.

1. They will tell you SS is not s tribe and so isn't deserving of a region of their own.

2. They will tell you an Igbo man single handedly created the same SS as a civilian advice to a military dictatorship headed by northern military officers. How is that possible ?

3. They will tell you crap about how they are our friends and allies when this is never the case as they are always in alignment with northern hawks to truncate/block or frustrate any attempt by the region for more resource control. If in doubt see how they did a walk out on Obasanjo's proposed 25% derivative to oil producing states and how one Wabara shamelessly stated more allocation to oil producing states won't benefit the SE region. They stood with the north during the offshore onshore dichotomy only until legal intervention by the supreme court saw to SS states benefiting from offshore oil revenue. States like Akwa Ibom won't have seen the unprecedented level of development we are witnessing owing that most of the oil and gas revenue generated from that state come from offshore platforms. Same situation played out again with Igbo legislators supporting the north to make rubbish of the PIB legislation.

4. Their candidate , Peter Obi has stated clearly that he isn't against the system in place .He even further stated that nothing is wrong with our flawed centrist system but only leadership vacuum. Is this someone that will then see to more state autonomy or even attempt to reform a broken and parasitic system ?
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AfonjaConehead: 7:04pm On Dec 28, 2022
SilverOrLead:
Hello Mods,

I have been lurking here for some years now but decided to create an account so as to bring to your attention a disturbing trend I have noticed coming mostly from people of the SE who post here.

It concerns their consistent use of the ambiguous "SS/SE" which they subtly are trying to morph into one.

We all know the history of the disastrous old Eastern region and how minorities from the lower Niger were subject to severe marginalization by the majority Igbo.

We also know how all efforts by the so-called minorities to leave the old eastern region was systematically and ruthlessly shutdown by the Igbo majority in Enugu.

We are also not ignorant of what was the prime motive behind the declaration of Biafra after the Gowon military dictatorship created states which saw to the minorities in the old eastern region being carved out.

We also know how Biafra died a natural death after the annexed minority regions were liberated from the Igbo tyranny known as Biafra.

We are also aware of Igbo attempts to repeat this folly in the form of a revamped Biafran project under the Afro Zionists group IPOB.

Now we are seeing attempts by the Igbos to corral the peoples of the SS under a political and social umbrella by consistently and unrelentlessly deploying the ambiguous SS/SE nomenclature in all their posts regarding this coming elections.

To continue allowing this abhorrent and subversive nomenclature to litter this section is tantamount to bowing to both Igbo expansionist and annexation claims of the SS as well as an insult to the independence of the peoples of the SS, thus a support for Biafra restoration and seccessionism.

The SS is a region of diverse people with distinct cultural, political and tribal identities separate from the larger Igbo polity. Yes, we have Igboid peoples but they have always preferred to not have anything to do with the larger Igbo populace .

I suggest that henceforth, all posts that insists on using the ambiguous and paradoxical wordings of SS/SE be auto censored to " SS and SE" or better yet, the post flagged as spam, deleted and the poster banned.

Thank you.



I am a proud south south and I got something to see to ya,go4Kyourself!!!! I mean,go 4k yourself!!!!!

Pathetic.


Just look at what is roving in the brain of Nigerians for God's sake!!!!!!!

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AfonjaConehead: 7:08pm On Dec 28, 2022
SilverOrLead quit being a big4nothing johnbull..do something with your life..pity your mother and do something with your life,old man:
Here are a few Igbo lame tactics that exposes their snake bellies while claiming to care and love the people of the SS.

1. They will tell you SS is not s tribe and so isn't deserving of a region of their own.

2. They will tell you an Igbo man single handedly created the same SS as a civilian advice to a military dictatorship headed by northern military officers. How is that possible ?

3. They will tell you crap about how they are our friends and allies when this is never the case as they are always in alignment with northern hawks to truncate/block or frustrate any attempt by the region for more resource control. If in doubt see how they did a walk out on Obasanjo's proposed 25% derivative to oil producing states and how one Wabara shamelessly stated more allocation to oil producing states won't benefit the SE region. They stood with the north during the offshore onshore dichotomy only until legal intervention by the supreme court saw to SS states benefiting from offshore oil revenue. States like Akwa Ibom won't have seen the unprecedented level of development we are witnessing owing that most of the oil and gas revenue generated from that state come from offshore platforms. Same situation played out again with Igbo legislators supporting the north to make rubbish of the PIB legislation.

4. Their candidate , Peter Obi has stated clearly that he isn't against the system in place .He even further stated that nothing is wrong with our flawed centrist system but only leadership vacuum. Is this someone that will then see to more state autonomy or even attempt to reform a broken and parasitic system ?

Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by SilverOrLead: 7:12pm On Dec 28, 2022
AfonjaConehead:
SilverOrLead quit being a big4nothing johnbull..do something with your life..pity your mother and do something with your life,old man

Will you prefer we discuss only about Fulani killings ?

As e dey pain you, e dey sweet me

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by SilverOrLead: 7:13pm On Dec 28, 2022
AfonjaConehead:

I am a proud south south and I got something to see to ya,go4Kyourself!!!! I mean,go 4k yourself!!!!!

Pathetic.


Just look at what is roving in the brain of Nigerians for God's sake!!!!!!!

Proud SS man I dey hail you from across the Niger .

Pathetic
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AfonjaConehead: 7:16pm On Dec 28, 2022
SilverOrLead:


Proud SS man I dey hail you from across the Niger .

Pathetic

Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AfonjaConehead: 7:18pm On Dec 28, 2022
e pain JOHNBULL well grin grin grin grin


Btw, viewing this thread, another johnbull,dsalvo grin

Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by TheNiceGuy(m): 7:19pm On Dec 28, 2022
What's the blood relation between Igbo and Edo people?
Bayelsa?
Akwa ibom?

MadamExcellency:


For purposes of clarity, define SS and SE as it relates to the people inhabiting the geographical location and how it applies to your protest.

Who championed the creation of South-south? What ethnicities are listed in SS and SE?
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by TheNiceGuy(m): 7:22pm On Dec 28, 2022
Attache by force
gidgiddy:


Can you tell us your interest in the SS and SE when you are not from these two zones? Or are you just an online mischief maker?

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by SilverOrLead: 8:23pm On Dec 28, 2022
TheNiceGuy:
Attache by force

Nah real stubborn stomach worm dem be.

No matter how you deworm , you can never get rid of them.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by drlateef: 9:00pm On Dec 28, 2022
Nwaetche:
Some part of South South like Delta and Edo had actually tested Yoruba rule during the first republic.

It is still in history that Mid-west remain the only region created by people voting willingly to leave Western nigeria. The then Oba of Benin was at the forefront of the agitation due to the subjugation from Western Nigeria.

When they eventually got independence, an Igbo man Dennis Chukude Osadebay, a former NCNC leader in Aba in the current Abia state and a native of Asaba became the first premier of Midwest.

So in essence, NCNC headed by Azikiwe was in charge of governement for both the Eastern state( comprising of south south state of Cross river, AKS, RVS and Balyelsa) and Midwest state( comprising of Delta and Edo) before the military takeover and eventual civil war.

People voted willingly to have one party headed by an Igbo man heading the two regions after the mid-west threw away Western government rule.

Your discredited divide and rule only started shortly before, during and after the civil war.







They left western region, and was that not a thing of regret for them? Which region developed the most in Nigeria? Which region started free education, free health, brought the first TV station in Africa and many more? If Aguiyi Ironsi did not force Nigeria back to unitary system which IPOB is now fighting against, the western region would have been a developed place by now.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by NothingDoMe: 9:03pm On Dec 28, 2022
ImperialYoruba:


All those in support say YE.


The YEs have it!

The relief sought by the enlightened OP is hereby granted, pending a stamped and sealed order from Seun.
Why do you guys love to disturb this young man. You want him to localize nairaland to your whims and caprices.

SE/SS are majorly supporting Peter Obi and it's not because it is written as SE/SS in Nairaland. Cmon that's demeaning. cheesy

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AfonjaConehead: 6:25am On Dec 29, 2022
People are seriously praying to God for a positive change in this country but some old agbayas and empty brainers are whining like little boys who lost their lollipops, shame.

How can this country ever develop with this kinda mindset!?!!


They hate the peace and mutuality that exists between the SE and SS and these are same wicked hypocrites that voted a SS son out of power 2014 whereas only the SE stood with GEJ 2014!!!!!

God will surely punish all wicked evil people!!!!
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 6:56am On Dec 29, 2022
DMerciful:
For you info, I'm Igbo from Delta State so I'm not denying my Igboness neither am I denying my origin. You can look at my previous post to know.

Having said that, the Igbo nationality is about the only Nationality is unsatisfied with the status quo and thats why i associate with Igbos from the East. How can any nationality be ok with the worsening standard of living in Nigeria? When you say South south, there's nothing like south south as an homogeneous entity.

Where in the South are you from? This current alignment of SS/SE and SW and NC is to enthrone Obi because the status quo can no longer be allowed to continue
Before states, we had regions, 4 regions, North, East, Mid western, Western regions, South South emanated from Mid Western, old Bendel, you people are dumb, try and learn history before you come out to embarrass your self and tribe. There is no similarity between South South and South east. South South remains the richest region, but you can never see a South South man bragging on nothing like Igbo fools. The character, discipline, culture, morals and values are different. We have different ancestry and progenitors. You people are scum, always like to associate and rub shoulders with the tribe of kings. We in South South are kings not scums. We have nothing in common with igbos, God forbid.

There is nothing like status quo, every state have rich and poor people, political leaders from everywhere steal their commonwealth, if Biafra comes, you idiots from Delta Igbo will be treated like second class citizen, if biafra would be good to all, you would see it in the way igbos run their states. In igboland today, there are rich and poor, why can't all be rich?

You minorities complained of marginalization when you were lumped with the east, that's why you were taken out and Delta state created. Don't be a fool.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DMerciful(m): 6:59am On Dec 29, 2022
But I'm from the so-called South South, so what are you on about?
baretalk:

Before states, we had regions, 4 regions, North, East, Mid western, Western regions, South South emanated from Mid Western, old Bendel, you people are dumb, try and learn history before you come out to embarrass your self and tribe. There is no similarity between South South and South east. South South remains the richest region, but you can never see a South South man bragging on nothing like Igbo fools. The character, discipline, culture, morals and values are different. We have different ancestry and progenitors. You people are scum, always like to associate and rub shoulders with the tribe of kings. We in South South are kings not scums. We have nothing in common with igbos, God forbid.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 7:06am On Dec 29, 2022
DMerciful:
But I'm from the so-called South South, so what are you on about?
You are a fool, ask your father to tell you about your history, South South emanated from Benin Empire, who controls the south of the Niger, way before igbos came out of their caves, stop following people you are better than. It's not so called, south south exist dummy, I just told you how South South emanated idiot.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DMerciful(m): 7:09am On Dec 29, 2022
Are the Igbos responsible for your lack of home training?
baretalk:

You are a fool, ask your father to tell you about your history, South South emanated from Benin Empire, who controls the south of the Niger, way before igbos came out of their caves, stop following people you are better than. It's not so called, south south exist dummy, I just told you how South South emanated idiot.

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 7:11am On Dec 29, 2022
DMerciful:
Are the Igbos responsible for your lack of home training?
I hate dumb fools, if you don't know, shut up. Kanu, Ohaneze and all lack home training, igbos take pride in showing no respect, a treat people in their own coin. Pigs.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DMerciful(m): 7:13am On Dec 29, 2022
You must be one of those effurun jaguda
baretalk:

I hate dumb fools, if you don't know, shut up. Kanu, Ohaneze and all lack home training, igbos take pride in showing no respect, a treat people in their own coin. Pigs.

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Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 7:15am On Dec 29, 2022
DMerciful:
You must be one of those effurun jaguda
You must be one of the ipob cannibal pigs, south South people are not pigs, we don't eat humans.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DMerciful(m): 7:16am On Dec 29, 2022
You're talking like a child. You play too much
baretalk:

You must be one of the ipob cannibal pigs, south South people are not pigs, we don't eat humans.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by Murphyenemuwe: 7:20am On Dec 29, 2022
Igbos trying to force themselves on SS is a turn off and reeks of hypocrisy. You're the master of the same thing u accused the fulani. I'm from Delta and I've seen people we call Delta igbos just like me wished Biafra never comes to reality cos they're scared of oppression. There are yorubas in kogi kwara and they always try to relate themselves with the southwest not the other way round like the igbos. You guys should realize you have the greatest enemy within than yorubas and fulanis uve lived all your lives to hate. And most influential igbos don't buy in to that crap u call biafra
SilverOrLead:


And you can only speak also for yourself.

A Delta man who knows his history will not speak such utter rubbish .

Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AkpaMgbor(m): 7:24am On Dec 29, 2022
baretalk:
Fact, the people of SE and South South, are very different, in culture, discipline, mannerisms, value and even from our progenitors. Fools who don't know history lump both together.
Lol see them. This one said their culture is different. Ikwuanọ people have been intermarrying the ibibios for over a century, even my cousin is married to an ibibio woman. Peter Obi is married to one. Our food is almost identical. Opobo people speak Igbo flawlessly. I know you don't even know the places /people I mentioned and in which states they are found. I know you can't even tell which name is Igbo and which name isn't. Clownish revisionist.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 7:26am On Dec 29, 2022
AkpaMgbor:

Lol see them. This one said their culture is different. Ikwuanọ people have been intermarrying the ibibios for over a century, even my cousin is married to an ibibio woman. Peter Obi is married to one. Our food is almost identical. Opobo people speak Igbo flawlessly. I know you don't even know the places /people I mentioned and in which states they are found. I know you can't even tell which name is Igbo and which name isn't. Clownish revisionist.
South South goes far beyond Delta state, and in Delta the Igboid people's and tribes are less than 5%. Don't ever lump us together, igbos are scums.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by baretalk: 7:27am On Dec 29, 2022
DMerciful:
You're talking like a child. You play too much
Everyone knows these are facts.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AkpaMgbor(m): 7:47am On Dec 29, 2022
SilverOrLead:


OK .

My grand fathers who rejected Biafra and fought alongside federal troops to chase you out of our land are also BAT urchins.

Seun, here is another valid reason why SS/SE should elicit a ban

Oh this moniker was created barely 24 hours ago lol. You guys never get tired. Is it the polls or the unwavering support of those in the Niger delta? Or the uppercut from kwankwaso? Either way, we've seen this futile tirade a thousand times and it has amounted to nothing for guys like you and your principals who engage you. To cap it all, nairaland has lost credibility and influence . We are just here for old time sake. If your bullcrap can generate any traction on twitter then I advice you head there fast.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by AkpaMgbor(m): 7:51am On Dec 29, 2022
baretalk:

South South goes far beyond Delta state, and in Delta the Igboid people's and tribes are less than 5%. Don't ever lump us together, igbos are scums.
Only a scum will use the stupid terminology south south. Only a scum will appropriate a none existing geographic terminal to his identity. If I ask you scum of the earth your local government, your village, and down to your community you will start beating about the bush like a headless banshee.
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by DadaHammed: 8:13am On Dec 29, 2022
SilverOrLead:


Will you prefer we discuss only about Fulani killings ?

As e dey pain you, e dey sweet me
Yes, let's discuss fulani recent killings in Ondo. cheesy
Re: Time To Enforce The SS And SE Dichotomy On NL by Ikpaitid: 8:20am On Dec 29, 2022
Can't you open your mouth without mentioning South South?
Is this attachment by force or what?
If you believe that South East has oil then speak for the South East, leave South South out of your smelly IPOB mouth.

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