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Lekan239:
A guy once posted his earnings through YouTube monetization on nairaland. Go check it

Bross go and get ur PVC this topic is off limits to you. and stop arguing like a blind bat.

erico2k2:
Bross go and get ur PVC this topic is off limits to you. and stop arguing like a blind bat.

you know nothing

Lekan239:
some tech guys earn that much. Even some content creators. A guy who makes is cash through YouTube once posted is pay check here on nairaland, it was on front page, you could search it and confirm yourself

Mr Lekan, I clearly agreed with you that YES, there are Nigerians who earn equivalent of £20,000/month. Forget posting pay slips on Youtube, I've seen monthly paychecks of $40,000 for oil & gas engineers in Nigeria. So there's no argument about the EXISTENCE of such super earners. Please pay attention so we can have a useful discussion.

My question to you is, can you give us an educated guess as to HOW MANY PEOPLE earn that in Nigeria? What percentage of the population? I know for a fact, by my exposure and by research, that only 0.5% of Nigerians earn over ₦‎200K per month.

So how many people do you think earn £20,000/month in Nigeria? An educated estimate will do. Go ahead and tell us.

Also, what percentage of Nigerian families or adults live in homes with 24 hour electricity and flush toilets...which implies running piped water? I'm fairly certain that over 95% of the population in the UK have access to such basic amenities, even if they earn ONLY £18,000/year.

Thanks.

Niftkid:
Aje u dey dismotivate me .

Think before you japaski - No savings for people abroad na debt sure pass

Treadway:
this travel section alone is the answer to your question. You haven't been reading about the salaries most japarians were making before they decided to throw everything away for the future, children blablabla. Point is, the people in this section are the ones earning those fat salaries. Most here have alluded (true or false) to making anywhere between 500k to 2milllion a month before dropping it all and getting on that plane. I never was a big earner while in employment, but even in my industry (pharma) middle to top management were making commissions alone of over 10million annually as far back as 2013. That was my Rm's commission in 2013, over 10million, excluding other runs. The commission was 1% at the time, it was given as stock, Na we go sell am send am him money over a period of months. I regretted not being a pharmacist. Make no mistake no be only oil industry money dey. MN pharma companies in Naija alone, Med reps *Pharmacists* (salary and commission) for a productive rep dey enter 500k monthly. Before we now talk of fmcgs like coca cola, Nigerian breweries, BAT, FMN. We never talk others like MTN, Huawei or the financial sector like the big 4, banks etc. Even me with my microbiology degree starting my career in an indigenous pharma company, not even Fisdon or greenlife wey be money bags o. I was able to build a befitting house, buy two cars, get married, get an MBA, responsible for a wife and two children even in this economy without a safety net, saved enough money to invest and re-invest and still reaping from those investments till today. Dey whine yourself. Na 100k salary per month people dey Japa abi

I'm a pharmacist. When I was planning my move back to Nigeria in 2008 or so, I actually had a good chance to get employed at a major pharma in Nigeria but I hated Lagos. I also thoroughly investigated the pharma business for investment opportunity. I can authoritatively tell you that pharmacists, even at the major drug companies, don't earn much. Basically, extrapolating from what I found out back then, 99% of pharmacists in Nigeria today earn less than ₦‎500K per month.

A pharmacist friend of mine also moved back to Nigeria from the USA and started a pharmacy business. He imported from abroad, got all the NAFDAC approvals and secured contracts selling to all sorts of hospitals, public and private. The business thrived for a few years then failed.

You can talk all you want about other things, but that your pharmacy story is FALSE and I say that because I know. In fact there's a pharmacist that moved from Nigeria recently....actually about 5 years ago....at the time I met him he was working at a grocery store. I talked to him at the time and he had nothing good to say about Nigeria. I'm sure he's doing very well now, in fact I should call him.

Have a good day.

hustla:
The £1,300 is minus POF right?

I didn't need that cos my company covered that.

larrypourl:
Words of motivation. I'd like to ask, did you migrate via student route or which of them? I'll see that wifey apply come February next year once that teachers application starts.

Nope.

Migrating as a student is difficult. I'm a Nurse

optionalY09:
Think before you japaski - No savings for people abroad na debt sure pass

So you get into debt the moment you reach there ? Is that what you're saying ?

Niftkid:
So you get into debt the moment you reach there ? Is that what you're saying ?

Not like that, when you spend more than your income you end up in debt. I am still saving to japa too

IbeOkehie:
Mr Lekan, I clearly agreed with you that YES, there are Nigerians who earn equivalent of £20,000/month. Forget posting pay slips on Youtube, I've seen monthly paychecks of $40,000 for oil & gas engineers in Nigeria. So there's no argument about the EXISTENCE of such super earners. Please pay attention so we can have a useful discussion.

My question to you is, can you give us an educated guess as to HOW MANY PEOPLE earn that in Nigeria? What percentage of the population? I know for a fact, by my exposure and by research, that only 0.5% of Nigerians earn over ₦‎200K per month.

So how many people do you think earn £20,000/month in Nigeria? An educated estimate will do. Go ahead and tell us.

Also, what percentage of Nigerian families or adults live in homes with 24 hour electricity and flush toilets...which implies running piped water? I'm fairly certain that over 95% of the population in the UK have access to such basic amenities, even if they earn ONLY £18,000/year.

Thanks.

like I said, do not compare the earnings over there with Nigeria earnings without comparing the cost of living of both countries.

Someone earning 2.4m(200k monthly) annually in Nigeria is not poor here in Nigeria, but someone earning £40,000(£3,333 monthly) is considered poor down there.

EngrKemp:
How much can sponsorship route cost.
How is the connect like?

I posted a link here already scroll back bross.

Lekan239:
like I said, do not compare the earnings over there with Nigeria earnings without comparing the cost of living of both countries.

Someone earning 2.4m(200k monthly) annually in Nigeria is not poor here in Nigeria, but someone earning £40,000(£3,333 monthly) is considered poor down there.

People earning £40k in the UK are not considered poor, are you conflating it with just London? Even in London, assuming you don't have kids and family to provide for and depending on where you live, your commute and a whole bunch of other factors, it will be tight but it's definitely not 'poor' status

Lekan239:
like I said, do not compare the earnings over there with Nigeria earnings without comparing the cost of living of both countries.

Someone earning 2.4m(200k monthly) annually in Nigeria is not poor here in Nigeria, but someone earning £40,000(£3,333 monthly) is considered poor down there.

Stop assuming, this is the problem with you lot, you fling figures outta thine air with no back up, why don't you back up the Nigerian claim and lets us back up the Uk claims with figures, Inflation is up in the Uk, but in Nigeria the inflation is mad.N200k monthly money is nothing compared to the standard of living in Nigeria. If you have a freezer, Ac in your house you Energy bills will surely get to N35k in a month, when you add you car fuel to it your energy bill has already gone up to nearly N60k.You might spend N10k for Data if you are not a heavy User and N8k forTV. Now food how much you recon? N80k?we have not added rent yet and other health enablement. Cant you already see that due to inflation N200k earner is a poor man? Imagine if that month you now need to fix ur car or something

ibkayee:
People earning £40k in the UK are not considered poor, are you conflating it with just London? Even in London, assuming you don't have kids and family to provide for and depending on where you live, your commute and a whole bunch of other factors, it will be tight but it's definitely not 'poor' status

£40k means nearly £3k take home, I remeber when I was on that wage, I wasn't poor, I was doing so well, I had my House in N8, if you know Hornsey near crouch end.
Dunno why guys on here keep comparing monies in the uk and Nigeria, there is nothing to compare .

erico2k2:
£40k means nearly £3k take home, I remeber when I was on that wage, I wasn't poor, I was doing so well, I had my House in N8, if you know Hornsey near crouch end.
Dunno why guys on here keep comparing monies in the uk and Nigeria, there is nothing to compare .

Don't think 40k is 3k take home, I think the take home is like 2.5k and possibly less depending on additional costs like pension schemes etc.

It's not a poor salary, although with the 10% inflation rate it won't quite cover what it used to

Lekan239:
like I said, do not compare the earnings over there with Nigeria earnings without comparing the cost of living of both countries.

Someone earning 2.4m(200k monthly) annually in Nigeria is not poor here in Nigeria, but someone earning £40,000(£3,333 monthly) is considered poor down there.

Over 99.95% of Nigerians are POOR. Take it or leave it and it's mostly because most of what they use for modern life is IMPORTED, including petrol! So the reality is you earn naira and spend on dollar priced goods.

Again, most importantly, how many Nigerians earn that ₦‎200K per month? The best figure I know is 0.5% according to reputable surveys and by my own observation. What are the chances you're among them? A cousin of mine that teaches at a private elementary school in Owerri earns ₦‎17K, an Access Bank banker with 7 years experience that migrated to Houston in 2013 told me his salary was ₦‎150K.

Your ₦‎200,000 is $250 dollars or £200 It's practically NOTHING for even the poorest person in the UK/USA and only 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn that much. That about says it all, don't you think? The median income in the USA is $65,000 per year, meaning HALF of all families earn that and Nigerian immigrants are acknowledged as one of the better earning national groups in this country.

OK, someone earning £40,000 in the UK is poor, but Nigerians in that place still manage to send billions of dollars back to their relatives, they build houses, pay rent and health & education costs for their relatives.

That person earning £40,000 likely lives in an apartment with all basic amenities available 24 hours except in case of weather or disaster. Only 7% of Lagosians have that available to them. Low wage earners in the USA own cars, how many people own private car in Nigeria?

Even poor me that started out earning $3.50/hr in the USA, I managed within 7 years to build a house in Nigeria, buy car for my family and put myself through university with zero loan, I paid cash out of pocket.

The important thing is that only 0.5% of Nigerians earn the biggie ₦‎200K....not to talk of £20,000 per month You have nice dreams though.

Nigerians are POOR, they're suffering from debilitating poverty, that's why most people living in that country can't think straight. You're a perfect example. You and the other FAKE high earners in Nigeria are not worth discussing anything with. I believe what others have said on other threads - you're probably a frustrated university student or teen projecting their dreams.

I'm done indulging you. This is my last post to you and your kind.

ibkayee:
Don't think 40k is 3k take home, I think the take home is like 2.5k and possibly less depending on additional costs like pension schemes etc.

It's not a poor salary, although with the 10% inflation rate it won't quite cover what it used to

Ok check this.35600 is £2300 there bouts take home basic.So £40k should be close and also depends on your tax code.Also people on £40k wage are termed middle class in the Uk cos most managers do not even earn that.

erico2k2:
Ok check this.35600 is £2300 there bouts take home basic.So £40k should be close and also depends on your tax code.Also people on £40k wage are termed middle class in the Uk cos most managers do not even earn that.

If you're earning 40k you will always be taxed a rate of 20% (after the first £12,570)

Outside of London it's a good salary

It was manageable in London depending on certain expense factors, but nowadays not so much. Definitely not 'poor' however

IbeOkehie:
I'm a pharmacist. When I was planning my move back to Nigeria in 2008 or so, I actually had a good chance to get employed at a major pharma in Nigeria but I hated Lagos. I also thoroughly investigated the pharma business for investment opportunity. I can authoritatively tell you that pharmacists, even at the major drug companies, don't earn much. Basically, extrapolating from what I found out back then, 99% of pharmacists in Nigeria today earn less than ₦‎500K per month.

A pharmacist friend of mine also moved back to Nigeria from the USA and started a pharmacy business. He imported from abroad, got all the NAFDAC approvals and secured contracts selling to all sorts of hospitals, public and private. The business thrived for a few years then failed.

You can talk all you want about other things, but that your pharmacy story is FALSE and I say that because I know. In fact there's a pharmacist that moved from Nigeria recently....actually about 5 years ago....at the time I met him he was working at a grocery store. I talked to him at the time and he had nothing good to say about Nigeria. I'm sure he's doing very well now, in fact I should call him.

Have a good day.

pharmacist and pharm trader no too different thing oh . The pharm trader na millionaire and billionaire . All those billionaires arrested by Ndlea na pharm traders .no be to run pharmacy na to trade in wholesale open Markets .

IbeOkehie:
Over 99.95% of Nigerians are POOR. Take it or leave it and it's mostly because most of what they use for modern life is IMPORTED, including petrol! So the reality is you earn naira and spend on dollar priced goods.

Again, most importantly, how many Nigerians earn that ₦‎200K per month? The best figure I know is 0.5% according to reputable surveys and by my own observation. What are the chances you're among them? A cousin of mine that teaches at a private elementary school in Owerri earns ₦‎17K, an Access Bank banker with 7 years experience that migrated to Houston in 2013 told me his salary was ₦‎150K.

Your ₦‎200,000 is $250 dollars or £200 It's practically NOTHING for even the poorest person in the UK/USA and only 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn that much. That about says it all, don't you think? The median income in the USA is $65,000 per year, meaning HALF of all families earn that and Nigerian immigrants are acknowledged as one of the better earning national groups in this country.

OK, someone earning £40,000 in the UK is poor, but Nigerians in that place still manage to send billions of dollars back to their relatives, they build houses, pay rent and health & education costs for their relatives.

That person earning £40,000 likely lives in an apartment with all basic amenities available 24 hours except in case of weather or disaster. Only 7% of Lagosians have that available to them. Low wage earners in the USA own cars, how many people own private car in Nigeria?

Even poor me that started out earning $3.50/hr in the USA, I managed within 7 years to build a house in Nigeria, buy car for my family and put myself through university with zero loan, I paid cash out of pocket.

The important thing is that only 0.5% of Nigerians earn the biggie ₦‎200K....not to talk of £20,000 per month You have nice dreams though.

Nigerians are POOR, they're suffering from debilitating poverty, that's why most people living in that country can't think straight. You're a perfect example. You and the other FAKE high earners in Nigeria are not worth discussing anything with. I believe what others have said on other threads - you're probably a frustrated university student or teen projecting their dreams.

I'm done indulging you. This is my last post to you and your kind.

how can very poor people pay million of pounds as tuition fees in the UK ? How can very poor people be the 3 largest importer of rice and used car from the US . and still expend over 1 bn usd to import wheat .import for who to consume ? how can very poor people pay for flight tickets that emirate is having 21 landing slots to carry ghost Abi

IbeOkehie:
Over 99.95% of Nigerians are POOR. Take it or leave it and it's mostly because most of what they use for modern life is IMPORTED, including petrol! So the reality is you earn naira and spend on dollar priced goods.

Again, most importantly, how many Nigerians earn that ₦‎200K per month? The best figure I know is 0.5% according to reputable surveys and by my own observation. What are the chances you're among them? A cousin of mine that teaches at a private elementary school in Owerri earns ₦‎17K, an Access Bank banker with 7 years experience that migrated to Houston in 2013 told me his salary was ₦‎150K.

Your ₦‎200,000 is $250 dollars or £200 It's practically NOTHING for even the poorest person in the UK/USA and only 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn that much. That about says it all, don't you think? The median income in the USA is $65,000 per year, meaning HALF of all families earn that and Nigerian immigrants are acknowledged as one of the better earning national groups in this country.

OK, someone earning £40,000 in the UK is poor, but Nigerians in that place still manage to send billions of dollars back to their relatives, they build houses, pay rent and health & education costs for their relatives.

That person earning £40,000 likely lives in an apartment with all basic amenities available 24 hours except in case of weather or disaster. Only 7% of Lagosians have that available to them. Low wage earners in the USA own cars, how many people own private car in Nigeria?

Even poor me that started out earning $3.50/hr in the USA, I managed within 7 years to build a house in Nigeria, buy car for my family and put myself through university with zero loan, I paid cash out of pocket.

The important thing is that only 0.5% of Nigerians earn the biggie ₦‎200K....not to talk of £20,000 per month You have nice dreams though.

Nigerians are POOR, they're suffering from debilitating poverty, that's why most people living in that country can't think straight. You're a perfect example. You and the other FAKE high earners in Nigeria are not worth discussing anything with. I believe what others have said on other threads - you're probably a frustrated university student or teen projecting their dreams.

I'm done indulging you. This is my last post to you and your kind.

keep on using your UK data statistics of 0.5% yet almost all households in various capital in Nigeria use fuel to power their gen daily. A good number of them also has cars and huge figures in their bank account

optionalY09:
Not like that, when you spend more than your income you end up in debt. I am still saving to japa too

If you go there and do laulau you go je gbese now . shey u no know nii?

freddie009:
Master, and is free. There are courses taught in English. All you need is a bulk account of about 5 million to prove to the Germans that you can take care of yourself when you come over.

Which schools teach in English
Name them pls

ibkayee:
If you're earning 40k you will always be taxed a rate of 20% (after the first £12,570)

Outside of London it's a good salary

It was manageable in London depending on certain expense factors, but nowadays not so much. Definitely not 'poor' however

Nop you wrong there,20% is BR, if you have a tax code you are taxed according to your own tax code, not 20%, also 50k is the threshold, if you earn £55k you will be charged higher tax rate on £5k and £40k tax at your normal rate .You can find this information on your P60, its xplained on there, this is why you have two sections on your P60.In London Managers earn Less than £40k, you can check jobs on line

erico2k2:
Nop you wrong there,20% is BR, if you have a tax code you are taxed according to your own tax code, not 20%, also 50k is the threshold, if you earn £55k you will be charged higher tax rate on £5k and £40k tax at your normal rate .You can find this information on your P60, its xplained on there, this is why you have two sections on your P60.In London Managers earn Less than £40k, you can check jobs on line

Most people are on the 1257L tax code (if they have just one job, no benefits or tax-deductible allowances), meaning that the first 12,570 of your salary is tax free

Earnings between £12,571 and £50,270 are taxed at 20%. Between £50,271 and £150,000 will be taxed at 40%

So if someone is earning £40k, everything above the first £12,570 is taxed at 20%

If you weren't on the 12571L tax code though fair enough

ttoyetade:
Thanks but this is not normal or possible within 3 months of arrival in the UK. i.e saving £3000 in 3 months. One can hardly find its feet regardless of the job one may get. Accomodation within a month, energy cost, transport etc will at least be £1000. So it means he must have been earning after tax £2000 a month which is almost impossible for a new arrival. His story is too good to be true and cannot be generalised.

most people who got first job on arrival don't get taxed immediately. For some its for the first year. So its very possible

ttoyetade:
You don't know the ins and out at all. Who will pay you £2000 a month as a starter and without a UK experience. Even if they you £2000, he will at least pay a tax and NI of £700 unless he is working outside the system. Working outside the system i.e not paying tax and NI no one will pay £2000 a month. I hope he is not doing some other things

you are wrong in your assertions, my friend started with a salary of £2100. Also they have not started deducting his tax. This is called delayed tax. And it is absolutely legal. So don't say what you don't know

pocohantas:
It is still a better deal for most Nigerians considering where we are coming from.

When they get there, settle in, enjoy the stable electricity and saner clime as we love to call it - then their expectations would increase and that is when the grumbling begins.

However, it remains a better deal when compared to our 200k Nigerian salary. Though there are cases of misinformation and bogus/unrealistic expectations.

The only average person that can give you money in this Dec 2022 is your relative abroad. Life is hard in Nigeria.

Very well said

checkmatez:
The aim is to rewrite you and your generation history by starting a family(present and future) in a country where things work. Being a citizen that can be allowed to travel and interact with various developed nations without scrutinized visa application processes as a free being.
It's bigger than having wads of cash and investment in a declining country but shallow minds don't understand.

True sha

EngrKemp:
Which schools teach in English
Name them pls

My engr bro, you have to do your research. I didn't dig deep because I am n't interested in Germany. I have some couple of class mates that did master in Germany back then.