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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:07pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Jesus said; when you pray, pray this Our Father who art in Heaven-does this prayer ring a bell. Jesus spoke of His Father-always. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me: So Jesus preferred to God 'as Father. Not Jehovah, but Father MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
FOOL! Jesus was talking to his own disciples who agreed with him that his father is their father {John 20:17} but his father has a name that's why Jesus quoted Moses @ Deuteronomy 6:4 there a specific name was mentioned! Mark 12:29 If you're not an idiot you should know that other religions can also refer to their God as Father! brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:16pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
It was the time the Watchtower were printing the King James-they slip in Jehovah's name in the bible. and they delivery made a spelling mistake-it's wrong, they added a J instead of an I, they managed to change a few verses adding the wrong spelling-they added Jehovah's name: not iehovah-Lucky the Watchtower printing press was closed down. We would be all in trouble: fancy this, none of us would have known the truth. and iehovah name as you can see in the 1611 bible, began with a I not a J. "IEHOVAH" in the 1611 KJV Bible {Exodus 6:3} And I appeared vnto Abraham, vnto Isaac, and vnto Iacob, by the Name of God Almighty, but by my name IEHOVAH was I not knowen to them. {Psalms 83:18} That men may knowe, that thou, whose name alone is IEHOVAH: art the most High ouer all the earth. {Isaiah 12:2} Behold, God is my saluation: I will trust, and not be afraid; for the Lord IEHOVAH is my strength and my song, he also is become my saluation. So Janosky what you are telling me you believe in iehovah with the wrong spelling jehovah-you need to do more study Janosky-before competing with bible believers, who studies up their history. Janosky believes in the unknown god-only the Watchtower prefer to call their god Jehovah with the wrong spelling. Janosky: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:21pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
it doesn't matter Jesus always preferred Lord God as His Father. Jesus never preferred to his Father as Jehovah: {Deuteronomy 6:4} “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! {Mark 12:29} Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one {John 20:17} Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’ ” {John 20;17} Is obviously the verse you always use; and you still can't see, Jesus calling God His Father. I don't see Jesus calling His Father Jehovah, Jehovah's name isn't there. But you call the Fathers name Jehovah: when in fact Jehovah's name is not in any of the verses you have given me. "So who's the fool 'now: max.. MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:37pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
No one said; anything about the disciples not calling God Father, I call God my Father as well. I was preferring to Jesus, He calls His God Father. You don't call Him Father-you call Him Jehovah. But of course you go straight into denial; you haven't the slightest idea, what the scriptures tells you, but the truth is, it doesn't make any sense, stay with the Watchtower comics, they seem to make more sense to you. Why don't you ask Jehovah to rescue you: and since you believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers-then why not ask his brother Lucifer to call out to him, so you will know what time his coming. MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 11:15pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky, forever loving to lie and blaspheme the Christian Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible calling them 3 deities which means 3 god's you have also called them: "the 3 dogheads", and you have called the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible: "the ole demon ghost": Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 11:33pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
MaxinDHouse: janosky: etc.etc.etc. when so called Jehovah's witnesses come to your door they pretend to be Godly, you can see at these forums what they really are: Mat_7:15 Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:10am On Jan 10, 2023 |
When I am looking at my bible, God's name is God or Lord or Father-Jesus's name is Jesus or Lord or the Son of God: in Hebrews Jesus is addressed as God by God: the Holy Spirit is always the Holy Spirit: these are the names I myself recognize in the English language: So when I address them, I am addressing them by their Names that are written in my bible.. Because of this: I still have contact with God through Word and dreams. God haven't put a barrier upon me because I don't call Him Adonai or Elohim or El, or YHWH, I call God just the way it's written in my bible, and I still receive answers. In Hebrew or Greek they understand God in their languages, the Hebrew name for God YHWH was pronounced. Some prefer “Yahweh” (YAH-way); others prefer “Yehowah,” “Yahuweh,” or “Yahawah”;. In terms for “God” and “Lord,” including El, Elohim, and Adonai (Hebrew); and Theos and Kurios (Greek), these are people from the other side of the world, people with different languages, where in fact I don't speak their language, all English speaking bibles Call Him God, Lord, Father, the Son of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But all in all, in every bible God's Name is addressed as God-Lord, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit, everybody uses these Names when they are addressing them to the world-even the JW's,do it, they address God as Jehovah-yet they still call Him God. So it doesn't matter what we call God-what matters, do we believe He exist. I don't focus upon God's Name, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:43am On Jan 10, 2023 |
brocab:"Father" is not the name Moses called his God but "Jehovah" {Deuteronomy 6:4} and that's exactly the same name Jesus called his God! Mark 12:29 So when this God foretold that another prophet will rise like Moses to teach His people in His name {Deuteronomy 18:19} it was Jesus that fulfilled that prophecy! John 17:6, 26 We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10 |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:20am On Jan 10, 2023 |
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! {Deuteronomy 6;4, Mark 12;29} And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. {Deuteronomy 18:19} “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. {John 17:6} And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”{John 17:26} “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me . {Isaiah 43:10} None of these scriptures can prove His name is Jehovah. Maybe in the Hebrew Language His Name is either YHWH, Adonai El, Elohim, but I don't see Jehovah.. I tell you the truth, you have been lied too, you are not God's servants,matter of fact you don't believe in the fact One must be Born Again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God: so obviously that leaves out the Jehovah witnesses: because of their disbelief. Iehovah was the correct spelling, from the 1611 bible, Jehovah Has the wrong spelling, it was over 700 years ago, when a Roman Catholic Monk wrote Jehova claiming this is now God's name. But in the English version, God's Name is God, Lord or Father. God still answers to these Names. MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41am On Jan 10, 2023 |
brocab:Confused dullard! It was confused religionists like you that made a mess of God's word so if you fail to research it's not God's fault. Lord is not a name but title that's why the translators of your version ran into a quagmire when they got to Psalms 110:1 they kept replacing JEHOVAH'S name with titles in upper case but when David said: Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1 ~ NWT Your translators hit their heads on the wall by saying: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. So you can continue deceiving yourself! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:59am On Jan 10, 2023 |
You added the name: Jehovah: the scriptures don't mention Jehovah as God's name in those verses: so obviously you are reading your bible from the NWT version: where in fact the name Jehovah are not seen in any other bible . Plus Iehovah was the correct spelling, No J, after the Watchtower printed the King James on there press, 4 verses were added given the name Jehovah as God's title, and if we look at the 1611 King James Iehovah was the correct spelling-not Jehovah. You need to study up Max before you caste those stones. you will always try to lie against the truth, no matter what the subject is.. MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11am On Jan 10, 2023 |
brocab: No "J" but you welcome names like Jacob, Judah, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan, Jerusalem, Jeremiah, Jonah, John, Jesus, James, Judas and many more shey? Continue deceiving yourself! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:44am On Jan 10, 2023 |
I read the English bible; and I answer to God, Lord or Father 'just as my King James is written, I am not interested in Names, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than trying to figure out the correct pronunciation of God's Name: but in saying this, In conclusion, it is highly unlikely that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of YHWH. if you choose to call on Jehovah: that's your choice: When you a stuck Max: you will try anything-I will accept every Word that is written in my bible-if Jacob, Judah, Joseph, Joshua, Jonathan, Jerusalem, Jeremiah, Jonah, John, Jesus, James, Judas, is written in my bible I will accept: but since the name Jehovah is not written in my bible I don't accept: besides in the 1611 bible Jesus's name didn't begin with a J-but a I, Iesus. So all these other names you have written down would have began with a I. So Iehovah spelling is correct. The Hebrews and the Greeks recognized God with names such as YHWH, EL, ELOHIM, ADONAI. (Hebrew); THEOS KURIOS (Greek) are the correct names given to God. Jehova began 700 years ago by a Roman Catholic monk: and over 200 years ago the Watchtower had added the ending "H" and called God Jehovah.. So the bottom line is Jehovah is a 200 year old name given by the Watchtower.. But when I address God, I call Him by His Name: God, Lord or Father, and He answers.. Now who's being deceived? Max MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:01pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
When did Israelite names began having "J"? brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:09pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
Why not you Max look it up yourself: maybe then you will began learning the scriptures: you expect us to give you the answers, when it's pointless to do so, you never accept what the Word of God say's to you anyway. But you can change your laziest and begin studying the Word of God, the net is full of information about scripture, don't be frighten to step out of your comfort zone, you need not to fear man, this is your rights to search for truth. Just maybe one day-you will finely find your calling in God; if you pray to THE FATHER In your secret place, I know He will be listening to your prayer, just don't be afraid to take your first step; the Lord see's everything, He will be watching you. I wouldn't be focusing upon God's Name so much, it's not important, you need to focus upon Jesus, God gave all authority to Jesus, no other Name above nor beneath or on Earth can save you, only Jesus can You JW's can call out to Jehovah; but you won't be receiving any results in Jehovah's name. Only in Jesus Name will save you. With a little help to get you started; begin with searching the net: you will find your answers there. Yahweh name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus. The name YHWH, consisting of the sequence of consonants Yod, Heh, Waw, and Heh, is known as the tetragrammaton MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:24pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
The Hebrews and the Greeks recognized God with names such as YAHWEH YHWH, EL, ELOHIM, ADONAI. (Hebrew); THEOS KURIOS (Greek) are the correct names given to God. Jehova began 700 years ago by a Roman Catholic monk: and over 200 years ago the Watchtower had added the ending "H" and called God Jehovah.. So the bottom line is Jehovah is a 200 year old name given by the Watchtower. Yahweh name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus. The name YHWH, consisting of the sequence of consonants Yod, Heh, Waw, and Heh, is known as the tetragrammaton. Janosky: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ọmọ you don't have any point if they're called "JEWS" and their capital city back in the days of David is called "JERUSALEM" and so many names including JESUS is in letter "J" and idiots like you didn't object to that their is nothing wrong in calling their God by letter "J" brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 10:22pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
brocab: God is a title not a name, daft brocab. Brocab,you are more than confused. Copy and paste thief thief does not even understand his disjointed, conflicting posts. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 10:24pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Brocab is a plagiarist. The guy can't explain nor teach anything from the conflicting copy copy thievery he's doing. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:48pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
Janosky:They don't know that each JW has been through all these before getting baptized, i wonder why they're not working towards making ex-jws worship with them. They don't know that despite the fact that ex-jws left the org they can never ever accept any of the teachings of the churches! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 11:12pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
Janosky: lost fraud jw janosky, talk about daft and confused if God is called "God" and He is, then it's a name as well as a title, just like "the Word of God" is both a name and a title: Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God and so in your false accusing of brocab, as well as calling him daft and confused, you also call him a thief, when in fact he was correct and you were wrong. you false jw's are the great false accusers, just like the devil: Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 11:22pm On Jan 10, 2023 |
johnw47: Is God a name? Answer :No! Mumu WAILER,is 2 Corinthians 4:4 referencing a name? Is John 10:35 referencing a name for men? Who ask you about Revelation 19:13? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 4:35am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Janosky: lost fraud jw janosky the matter is not english grammar, except for confused you the matter is the names people call God, whether grammaretically correct or not most people use "God" as YHWH name, because the name YHWH isn't exactly known by man most dum one, i call my friend richard "dic" to me it's another name for Him, i often call YHWH "God" to me and to many it's another name for Him in the common everyday english way of speaking, God's name is just simply "God" Jesus at His second coming is called: "The Word of God" it's not just a title but a name: rev 19:13 but carry on in your confusion and lies: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. false jw, common sense is just one of the things you are lacking |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39am On Jan 11, 2023 |
Janosky: Because they're not disciples they just enter a bus or stand by the streets and start making noise {Matthew 12:19} they think it's an easy work preaching and making disciples. Let them go to places where Krishna Ọbalúayé Zeus Hermes Jupiter Ra and many others are worshiped as GOD they will understand what JWs are telling them! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 7:19am On Jan 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max u r another dum dum that doesn't know that most people call God: "God" instead of calling Him a name that is likely not His name u such dummies aren't you: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33am On Jan 11, 2023 |
johnw47:Go to India and talk about GOD there your eyes will clear that everything you will say they'll attribute it all to Krishna after all that's the name of there GOD but Krishna never died for anyone's sin! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 8:27am On Jan 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max u forever talking gibberish, but then what else do you have 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50am On Jan 11, 2023 |
johnw47: Ọ̀DẸ̀! Go and PREACH to worshipers of Obaluaye without specifically mentioning the name of your God! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 9:13am On Jan 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max i don't preach to any of satans mob, but i just sometimes show up your confusion and lies etc. you don't know that by now, boy you dum, aren't you: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:18am On Jan 11, 2023 |
{Revelation 19:13} He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. You may believe in your head you can out smart the scriptures, but His Name is the Word of God: Janosky: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21am On Jan 11, 2023 |
johnw47: So keep shut when real preachers are talking! |
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