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Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by Lukuluku69(m): 3:34pm On Jan 17, 2023
TenQ:
Muslims cannot reason out their scripture without failing.
They always avoid answering questions

#1 One becomes a Christian instantaneously
#2 The verse is NOT about Christians or Jews or Sabians that b came Muslims. That is why the Qur'an says

"...they shall have their reward from their Lord, ..."
Who is the Lord of the Jews!? Yahweh!
Who is the Lord of the Christians !? Yahweh!

Sorry, I know that it is embarrassing that Sabians will enter paradise but it is your book (Quran) not mine!

Okay, let me ask you some simple basic questions
1. According to Islam will Mary the mother of Jesus (a Jew) enter paradise?
2. According to Islam will Mary the mother of Jesus (a Christian) enter paradise?
Alright then.

So long.
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by Lukuluku69(m): 3:43pm On Jan 17, 2023
TenQ:
The Qur'an NEVER said they believed in Islam. It's surprising if we as Christians understand Islam better than you Muslims

Qur'an 2:62
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.


The Qur'an says
1. Surely those who believe and as a specific example Jews, Christians and the Sabians
2. They believe in Allah, they believe in the Last Day and they do Good.
3. These people will receive their reward from THEIR Lord.

How clear can it be?
You are just getting ahead of yourself. Before Islam, the whole of Arabia has the Jews (mainly in Medina called Teman in your Bible.) , The Christians in Najran (North Western Arabia) and the Pagans of Mecca. In a little over 30 years, they all became Muslims .

The Nation of the Magis that visited babe Jesus crib became Muslims in a little over 30years after the Message was preached in Arabia and they are still Muslims 1,400 and counting. The whole of the Middle East as we know it became Muslims majorly. The Sabians (Astrologers in Persia) and many others of different faiths all became Muslims. These are the people that promised was held out to. If you are blind to see it, that's your cup of kunu to sip not mine.

And hoe can Mary the mother of Jesus be a Christian when that term was FIRST used by King Agrippa over 30 years after lord and saviour was hanged?
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 6:08pm On Jan 17, 2023
Lukuluku69:
You are just getting ahead of yourself. Before Islam, the whole of Arabia has the Jews (mainly in Medina called Teman in your Bible.) , The Christians in Najran (North Western Arabia) and the Pagans of Mecca. In a little over 30 years, they all became Muslims .

The Nation of the Magis that visited babe Jesus crib became Muslims in a little over 30years after the Message was preached in Arabia and they are still Muslims 1,400 and counting. The whole of the Middle East as we know it became Muslims majorly. The Sabians (Astrologers in Persia) and many others of different faiths all became Muslims. These are the people that promised was held out to. If you are blind to see it, that's your cup of kunu to sip not mine.

And hoe can Mary the mother of Jesus be a Christian when that term was FIRST used by King Agrippa over 30 years after lord and saviour was hanged?
Are you saying that Allah doesn't know the proper usage of words.

Allah spoke about these people receiving reward from THEIR LORD and not himself.

Here is Mary in Acts
Acts 1:13-14:
"And when they went in the city, they went up to the upper-room where they were staying — both Peter and John, and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all were devoting-themselves with-one-accord to prayer, along with women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and His brothers."


1. Can you see Mary and the brothers of Jesus with the Apostles and other disciples
2. If your argument is that Mary was not a Christian, was Mary not a New and is she not paradise bound?

The Qur'an will never make sense even to you sir
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by Lukuluku69(m): 7:37pm On Jan 17, 2023
TenQ:
Are you saying that Allah doesn't know the proper usage of words.

Allah spoke about these people receiving reward from THEIR LORD and not himself.

Here is Mary in Acts
Acts 1:13-14:
"And when they went in the city, they went up to the upper-room where they were staying — both Peter and John, and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all were devoting-themselves with-one-accord to prayer, along with women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and His brothers."


1. Can you see Mary and the brothers of Jesus with the Apostles and other disciples
2. If your argument is that Mary was not a Christian, was Mary not a New and is she not paradise bound?

The Qur'an will never make sense even to you sir
You are waste of time. So, the holy spirit suddenly forgot Mary's name and refer to her as "among the women"?

The followers of Jesus were first refered to as Christians in Antioch. I hope you know where Antioch is? Present day Turkey. And for your info, the Eleven disciples never left Jerusalem as commanded by Jesus. Any references of them stepping out are just forgeries.

E no concern me if the Quran doesn't make sense to you. Not one bit. It appealed to over a billion people and who are you if it doesn't make sense to you?
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 6:56am On Jan 18, 2023
Lukuluku69:
You are waste of time. So, the holy spirit suddenly forgot Mary's name and refer to her as "among the women"?

The followers of Jesus were first refered to as Christians in Antioch. I hope you know where Antioch is? Present day Turkey. And for your info, the Eleven disciples never left Jerusalem as commanded by Jesus. Any references of them stepping out are just forgeries.

E no concern me if the Quran doesn't make sense to you. Not one bit. It appealed to over a billion people and who are you if it doesn't make sense to you?
And you think it's the name that matter rather than the identity of the followers of Christ!? I wonder how Islam has reduced your IQ!? SMH!!
Before Antioch Christians were just Disciples of Christ. For your information, the name Christian was a Derogatory nickname given by people for the disciples of Christ meaning "little Christ's" or "little anointed ones" or "slaves of Christ" but of course, you don't know and your thought is that it's the name that is important rather than the identity.

Even when you saw in the scripture MARY mother of Jesus (also highlighted in Red), you remain blind. Just as Islam is leading you to Hell while you think you see!

Here is Mary in Acts
Acts 1:13-14:
"And when they went in the city, they went up to the upper-room where they were staying — both Peter and John, and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all were devoting-themselves with-one-accord to prayer, along with women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and His brothers."


1. Can you see Mary and the brothers of Jesus with the Apostles and other disciples
2. If your argument is that Mary was not a Christian, was Mary not a New and is she not paradise bound?

The Qur'an will never make sense even to you sir
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by Lukuluku69(m): 9:47am On Jan 18, 2023
TenQ:
And you think it's the name that matter rather than the identity of the followers of Christ!? I wonder how Islam has reduced your IQ!? SMH!!
Before Antioch Christians were just Disciples of Christ. For your information, the name Christian was a Derogatory nickname given by people for the disciples of Christ meaning "little Christ's" or "little anointed ones" or "slaves of Christ" but of course, you don't know and your thought is that it's the name that is important rather than the identity.

Even when you saw in the scripture MARY mother of Jesus (also highlighted in Red), you remain blind. Just as Islam is leading you to Hell while you think you see!

Here is Mary in Acts
Acts 1:13-14:
"And when they went in the city, they went up to the upper-room where they were staying — both Peter and John, and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all were devoting-themselves with-one-accord to prayer, along with women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and His brothers."


1. Can you see Mary and the brothers of Jesus with the Apostles and other disciples
2. If your argument is that Mary was not a Christian, was Mary not a New and is she not paradise bound?

The Qur'an will never make sense even to you sir
Loi

The word Christian was first used in Antioch by King Agrippa (at least in record) did Mary mother of Jesus followed them to Antioch?

So,. Christians also mean "Slaves of Christ" and not Christlike again?

You keep jumping from one points to another like a Bonobo! Do you know why? You are confused human being. Confusion resides in you.

I have always know that no one can get anywhere with you. Keep surfing the Net perhaps you will find the truth and when you do, I hope you won't be an arrogant s and blind prick that you have always being and embrace it.
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by MaxInDHouse(m):
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Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 11:00am On Jan 18, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Loi

The word Christian was first used in Antioch by King Agrippa (at least in record) did Mary mother of Jesus followed them to Antioch?

So,. Christians also mean "Slaves of Christ" and not Christlike again?

You keep jumping from one points to another like a Bonobo! Do you know why? You are confused human being. Confusion resides in you.

I have always know that no one can get anywhere with you. Keep surfing the Net perhaps you will find the truth and when you do, I hope you won't be an arrogant s and blind prick that you have always being and embrace it.
It's amazing the level of your exhibition of comprehension: I guess drinking camel urine with dates has blocked your normal functioning.
You are exhibiting character like a man who lifted up his head before the imam.

Why did you not wait for the imam before raising up your head? Why!?
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 8:55am On Jan 31, 2023
Hey TenQ,

I have been a wee bit pressed for time at work and that accounts for why I have not had time to respond to you. As you should know, matters pertaining to you and your religion has no place in my priority list. Absolutely irrelevant. Anyways, I suppose this is your first post for the year and I may try and respond to them in coming days.

TenQ:
Happy new year to my Muslim friends. This is my first post this year and I just want to ask a question.

The firstborn of Abraham is Ismail, however according to Allah in Qur'an29:27, the Prophethood and scriptures bypassed him to Isaac and his descendants alone.

Qur'an29:27
And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous.


1. How is it that from the seed of Ismail no prophet nor scriptures is ordained?
2. Is there any Quranic verse that shows that the Prophethood and scriptures is also for the children of Ismael?

Cc:
All my Friends on Nairaland:

LegalWolf ...
But two quick observations:

1. I do NOT consider you as a friend. Maybe a random living thing like advocatejare (but unlike him, not stray). Because I cannot be friends to a potential thief who is destined to rob, and probably would carry on the legacies of renowned thieves like oyenusi, etc.. I would NEVER be friends with such.

2. Olosho wey relocate from Garki to lekki CANNOT claim to be a virgin. This is exactly your situation. Because it is a new year and new thread DOES not mean we have forgotten about your useless 'air quote' lie? How on earth can the quotation in this statement:

'Abi, you don't know an answer to a historical event yet without evidence to the contrary you claimed "IT'S NOT CORRECT!"

be considered an air quote ?

I will be back fully in no time with you. Let me go clear my table!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 11:03am On Jan 31, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ,

I have been a wee bit pressed for time at work and that accounts for why I have not had time to respond to you. As you should know, matters pertaining to you and your religion has no place in my priority list. Absolutely irrelevant. Anyways, I suppose this is your first post for the year and I may try and respond to them in coming days.



But two quick observations:

1. I do NOT consider you as a friend. Maybe a random living thing like advocatejare (but unlike him, not stray). Because I cannot be friends to a potential thief who is destined to rob, and probably would carry on the legacies of renowned thieves like oyenusi, etc.. I would NEVER be friends with such.

2. Olosho wey relocate from Garki to lekki CANNOT claim to be a virgin. This is exactly your situation. Because it is a new year and new thread DOES not mean we have forgotten about your useless 'air quote' lie? How on earth can the quotation in this statement:

'Abi, you don't know an answer to a historical event yet without evidence to the contrary you claimed "IT'S NOT CORRECT!"

be considered an air quote ?

I will be back fully in no time with you. Let me go clear my table!
Thank God you are still alive!
Happy New Year!

I can understand you are only following Allah who says take not the Christians and Jews as friends...

Not withstanding, wish you a happy new year again!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 12:58pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
Thank God you are still alive!
Happy New Year!
Were you wishing for my death?

TenQ:
I can understand you are only following Allah who says take not the Christians and Jews as friends...

Not withstanding, wish you a happy new year again!
Lol! It’s a surprise you graduated from University. More surprising is the fact that you have a job. How did you get it? And the greatest of them all - that some stray humans like Advocatejare thinks you have a functional brain.

Just to put the records straight (which I have said on countless occasions on this forum), I have Christian fiends and relatives. But as far as you are concerned, we are not friends. A future thief and I can never be friends.

Deal with that, and happy holidays grin
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 3:35pm On Jan 31, 2023
LegalWolf:
Were you wishing for my death?



Lol! It’s a surprise you graduated from University. More surprising is the fact that you have a job. How did you get it? And the greatest of them all - that some stray humans like Advocatejare thinks you have a functional brain.

Just to put the records straight (which I have said on countless occasions on this forum), I have Christian fiends and relatives. But as far as you are concerned, we are not friends. A future thief and I can never be friends.

Deal with that, and happy holidays grin
So sorry LegalWolf,
I didn't know you never read Qur'an 5:51.

Qur'an 5:51
O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as friends—they are friends of each other. Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.


Here above is the instruction of Allah to you.

So sorry you didn't know!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 4:30pm On Jan 31, 2023
Hahahaha Potential Thief grin You will never cease to amaze me.

“Friend”? In Quran 5:51?

What is friend in Arabic? Lol…. grin

TenQ:
So sorry LegalWolf,
I didn't know you never read Qur'an 5:51.

Qur'an 5:51
O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as friends—they are friends of each other. Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.


Here above is the instruction of Allah to you.

So sorry you didn't know!
You destiny is to be a thief cheesy grin and the holy ghost says amen to that. HahHaha cheesy
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 5:22pm On Jan 31, 2023
Hey TenQ

Just saw how your role model was executed.

Check out:

I hope the same fate does not await you, potential thief grin
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 6:51pm On Jan 31, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ

Just saw how your role model was executed.

Check out:

I hope the same fate does not await you, potential thief grin
When you got caught!?
How did you survive it?
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 8:04pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
When you got caught!?
How did you survive it?
Hehehe Lawrence TenQni is angry. Don’t worry, continue on your path of shameless lying. In few years time, we would have videos of your execution.

I’ve seen two of your posts and as usual, very senseless. Like advocatejare, always straying from logic and common sense. Hopefully, I’ll have time on Thursday to ask you questions on ur dumb faith.

Till then, enjoy yourself future thief!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 8:11pm On Jan 31, 2023
Hehehehe grin I always get the potential thief by the balls. cheesy 😂😂😂

TenQ:
Whatever name you call me, I am still a million times more HONOURABLE than your prophet ….

….

So LegalWolf, your prophet whose corpse rotted and his companions we're forced to bury him because he stank after three days is a million times worse than I can ever be.


You are Mohammed's disciple , I am not, hence I expect you to be like him in everyway.

Thank you.
Have a good night rest!
Lol, you “honourable”? Was Oyenusi honourable? What about Lawrence Aninih, ehn TenQni? 😂 This is not a matter of straying from real questions like the random and stray advocatejare.

Anyways, I’ll be back to interrogate your faith in a few days time.

Lol Future thief talking about having honour. TenQni grin
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 8:14pm On Jan 31, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hehehe Lawrence TenQni is angry. Don’t worry, continue on your path of shameless lying. In few years time, we would have videos of your execution.

I’ve seen two of your posts and as usual, very senseless. Like advocatejare, always straying from logic and common sense. Hopefully, I’ll have time on Thursday to ask you questions on ur dumb faith.

Till then, enjoy yourself future thief!
The Liar is your mentor and partner with Al-Lah: Qutham aka Mohammed and you are following his footsteps aren't you?

I dare you to say that you are following the footsteps of Mohammed!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 10:31pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
Was your prophet minutely HONOURABLE?

I repeat!
….
I love your too tears, Lawrence TenQnih. A man whose destiny has been written down to be a thief. Is it Colt you’ll start by robbing ? Ehn Future Thief 😜
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 10:33pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
The Liar is your mentor and partner with Al-Lah: Qutham aka Mohammed and you are following his footsteps aren't you?

I dare you to say that you are following the footsteps of Mohammed!
Hehehehe, a future thief daring me grin. Wonders shall never end
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 10:52pm On Jan 31, 2023
LegalWolf:
I love your too tears, Lawrence TenQnih. A man whose destiny has been written down to be a thief. Is it Colt you’ll start by robbing ? Ehn Future Thief 😜
I ask you again:
Was your prophet minutely HONOURABLE?


I repeat!
Whatever name you call me, I am still a million times more HONOURABLE than your prophet Mohammed.


Shame on you!
I dare you to say that you are following the footsteps of Mohammed!


Are you afraid!?

The corpse of a prophet doesn't decay!
So LegalWolf, why was your prophet buried when he did not decay!

Religion of LIARS!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 10:57pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
I dare you to say that you are following the footsteps of Mohammed!
…..
Hehehehe, a future thief daring me cheesy. Wonders shall never end on Allah’s green earth, or would it? 🤷‍♂️

Lawrence TenQnih the future thief
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 10:58pm On Jan 31, 2023
TenQ:
…..

Religion of LIARS!
Lol, but you’ve been the one spewing lies, Ehn Lawrence TenQnih the destined thief ? grin
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 1:46am On Feb 01, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, but you’ve been the one spewing lies, Ehn Lawrence TenQnih the destined thief ? grin
How come Muslims cannot even trust their own religious literatures?

90% of Hadith are fabricated by the adherents of the Religion of Lies


My dear, you and your fellow Muslims following the examples of your esteemed prophet Mohammed are the LIARS!

Even your translations of the Qur'an are lies. Imagine, Jubril blowing int the SHIRT or SLEEVE of Mary's dress when the Actual word is him blowing into the Vagina of Mary.

LegalWolf, you are an unrepentant LIAR exactly like your DIRTY and IMMORAL prophet.

Tell me your prophet is not GUILTY?
And he is your model!
SMH!


LegalWolf, the follower of the only prophet ever accused of STEALING!

I am ashamed for you!
You gat no iota of shame!
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 5:59am On Feb 01, 2023
TenQ:
Are you ashamed of your prophet?
How can you an idol worshipper be better than your mentor Mohammed?
How?

……
Interesting! So you agree that Christianity is idol worship and you are an idol worshipper?

Although the pace may be slow, we are getting there, future thief Mr. Lawrence TenQnih 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by LegalWolf: 6:10am On Feb 01, 2023
TenQ:
How come Muslims cannot even trust their own religious literatures?

90% of Hadith are fabricated by the adherents of the Religion of Lies
Hehehe “90%”… national bureau of statistics. Lol. Where did you get your data from?

Assuming you’re even correct, you agree that it is our Hadith that is fabricated, innit? But your Bible - the central text of your religion - is a forgery. What would you say about that, ehn Lawrence TenQnih the future thief 😉

TenQ:
My dear, you and your fellow Muslims following the examples of your esteemed prophet Mohammed are the LIARS!

Even your translations of the Qur'an are lies. Imagine, Jubril blowing int the SHIRT or SLEEVE of Mary's dress when the Actual word is him blowing into the Vagina of Mary.
Lol. Like the stray advocatejare, always straying from the point.

TenQ:
LegalWolf, you are an unrepentant LIAR exactly like your DIRTY and IMMORAL prophet.

Tell me your prophet is not GUILTY?
And he is your model!
SMH!
Lol. Guilty of what? Is it stealing Colt ? No talk let me know, future thief 😝

TenQ:
LegalWolf, the follower of the only prophet ever accused of STEALING!

I am ashamed for you!
You gat no iota of shame!
Lol, a potential thief requiring me to have shame is something I’ll never expect to happen to me. Even in a thousand years to come! Lol!

Wait, are you triggered by the video of your Uncle’s (oyenusi) execution? Because all this ranting is unnecessary. But I love it though. Lol
Re: Where Is Ishmael In Prophethood by TenQ(op): 7:11am On Feb 01, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hehehe “90%”… national bureau of statistics. Lol. Where did you get your data from?

Assuming you’re even correct, you agree that it is our Hadith that is fabricated, innit? But your Bible - the central text of your religion - is a forgery. What would you say about that, ehn Lawrence TenQnih the future thief 😉



Lol. Like the stray advocatejare, always straying from the point.



Lol. Guilty of what? Is it stealing Colt ? No talk let me know, future thief 😝



Lol, a potential thief requiring me to have shame is something I’ll never expect to happen to me. Even in a thousand years to come! Lol!

Wait, are you triggered by the video of your Uncle’s (oyenusi) execution? Because all this ranting is unnecessary. But I love it though. Lol
Have you woken up to drink your normal cup of Carmel urine this morning!?

See who is talking about FABRICATED hadiths. Isn't the hadith your esteemed religious books? Did I publish it for you?



Tell me your prophet is not INSANE!
I was told that black magic controlled his life for almost one year: I suspect that you may be under the satanic influence of black magic too.

You may need to suck the breast of an under-age girl ten times for your healing howbeit temporal.

Tell me Mohammed didn't develop a long bout of INSANITY?

LIARS you are from the Religion of Islam
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