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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:22pm On Jan 20, 2023
benji93:
Another simple question. This a question I believe one of our friends asked you. Is every possession-based system tiki-taka?

I clearly used the term (Possession heavy football). There is a reason for the term heavy. I posted an excerpt from Quora and he clearly used the term heavy.

Possession Heavy football is tiki-taka. Then we have different variants of it. Guardiola's tiki-taka is the base. Then coaches learning it and adapting their strategies to it led to the variants of tiki-taka.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:23pm On Jan 20, 2023
benji93:
Are you afraid to say Kompany deploys tiki-taka? cheesy grin. What the hell does similar mean? The article says having seen Pep's methods for four years, Kompany employs a heavy possession system. No comments on whether it's tiki-taka or not. Again there are several systems that are possession-based but quite different from tiki-taka.

The bolded is Tiki-Taka. It is as clear as daylight.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:31am On Jan 21, 2023
mostob:
Off topic
Dani Alves has been sentenced to prison without bail for allegedly r*ping a 23 year old at a night club in Barcelona on 30th December last year. He will be transferred to jail.

[Via: COPE]

So sad mehn


Not prison, he has not been found guilty of anything. They just arrested him and the judge refused to grant bail. He is charged with inappropriately touching a young lady in a night club.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:46am On Jan 21, 2023
Nathan Tella with his MOTM award and the Match Winner, Scott Twine.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:48am On Jan 21, 2023
Man Utd Legend Andy Cole speaks on wanting Osimhen at Man Utd.

"You want to be getting crosses into Weghorst, rather than getting him away in behind. I think Victor Osimhen at Napoli is very good and could be the long-term natural fit. The question is whether Napoli would be prepared to let him go."

"Heโ€™s rangy, got a good first touch, scores goals and is a decent size as well. I watched him play against Liverpool and he was more than prepared to link the play and then run in behind."

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:53am On Jan 21, 2023
Iwobi's Newest Teammate: Arnaut Danjuma

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 6:24am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:13am On Jan 21, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 8:20am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DEMANDRED: 8:52am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by skallion7(m): 9:01am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:06am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:30am On Jan 21, 2023
DEMANDRED:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:31am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:37am On Jan 21, 2023
Danielnino00:
This is a good one..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:38am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:43am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:47am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:54am On Jan 21, 2023
do4luv14:



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by skallion7(m): 9:57am On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:49am On Jan 21, 2023
This is why I say you are not a serious person. He mentioned heavy Possession-based, but did he say heavy possession-based means tiki-taka? You are not serious at all. Nobody who knows their onions says heavy Possession-based means tiki-taka. It simply means the system requires that players keep over 60% of the possession. I remember Van Gaal at Man Utd was keeping over 60% of possession consistently, but no one who knows their football would say it was tiki-taka. The very interesting person you are. You don't seem to understand that articles can be riddled with exaggerations. You have to actually read the entire thing to understand and see through the ruse. All you look for is an emphasis. Do you understand that the use of such words can be quite misleading?

Besides does anyone know a system better than the person using it? I showed you an article where Kompany in his interview with Ferdinand, said he would rather call my system "Possession with impact", not Possession tikitaka. Pls, do not tell me you know Kompany's system better than he does, cos that would be quite interesting. cheesy
TheGoodJoe:


I clearly used the term (Possession heavy football). There is a reason for the term heavy. I posted an excerpt from Quora and he clearly used the term heavy.

Possession Heavy football is tiki-taka. Then we have different variants of it. Guardiola's tiki-taka is the base. Then coaches learning it and adapting their strategies to it led to the variants of tiki-taka.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:19am On Jan 21, 2023
Anybody know anything about us having Arthur Okonkwo soon? Any news on that?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 11:38am On Jan 21, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Nathan Tella strikes again!!!

The Inevitable scoring wing forward of the Championship. Beautiful goal it was too. How he attacks the Half spaces and the gap between CB and Fullback is just Beautiful to behold. Baller!

His goal brings Kompany's Burnley level vs West Bromwich Albion. Ajayi on the bench.

9 goals and 2 assists now in 25 League games (19 starts).
In someone's voice here, "he has found his level". Tomorrow his voice will be like. I advised him to drop a level to reinvent himself.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:16pm On Jan 21, 2023
ChrisKels:
Anybody know anything about us having Arthur Okonkwo soon? Any news on that?
I think he hv been approached
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:27pm On Jan 21, 2023
Ekong could be joining Salarentina on loan this January.. As per sky sports.

Via Soar Super Eagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:09pm On Jan 21, 2023
benji93:
This is why I say you are not a serious person. He mentioned heavy Possession-based, but did he say heavy possession-based means tiki-taka? You are not serious at all. Nobody who knows their onions says heavy Possession-based means tiki-taka. It simply means the system requires that players keep over 60% of the possession. I remember Van Gaal at Man Utd was keeping over 60% of possession consistently, but no one who knows their football would say it was tiki-taka. The very interesting person you are. You don't seem to understand that articles can be riddled with exaggerations. You have to actually read the entire thing to understand and see through the ruse. All you look for is an emphasis. Do you understand that the use of such words can be quite misleading?

Besides does anyone know a system better than the person using it? I showed you an article where Kompany in his interview with Ferdinand, said he would rather call my system "Possession with impact", not Possession tikitaka. Pls, do not tell me you know Kompany's system better than he does, cos that would be quite interesting. cheesy

You are spending more time attacking me than making any point. Also, I doubt you even read a bit of the answer to what Kompany meant. Read again. Kompany was not differentiating his play from Guardiola but confirming Guardiola's stance.

TheGoodJoe:


โ€œPossession with impact,โ€ is how Kompany described his style to Rio Ferdinandโ€™s Five podcast last year. โ€œI include impact so I donโ€™t get put down as just possession, tiki-taka.

โ€œI like mobility and runs to free up people between the lines and choose if you want to play between the lines or deep (over the top). I have to have an aggressive team.โ€


Now you brought this up to try and say he, Kompany is different from Guardiola. cheesy grin cheesy grin

However, will you say Guardiola's Barcelona did not play with impact? Will Messi have scored those amount of goals and Barcelona dominate teams with loads of goals without playing with impact?

Kompany is actually echoing Guardiola's idea. Guardiola does not like the tiki taka term because there is more to the game than just passing. He did not say my Barcelona team was just passing. Guardiola was pointing out that the team did more than just passing.

That is why I coined that team possession heavy football.


Under Pep Guardiola, the biggest thing Kompany learnt was the importance of using and creating space through off-the-ball movement. Stretching the pitch using the full-backs creates more space between the lines for his attacking midfielder. Kompany wants those players to be mobile and technical.

At this point of the article, it is elaborated what playing with impact is. And guess what? It is in black and white that Kompany learnt how to play possession heavy football with an impact from Guardiola. So the article you posted as usual, clearly counters the idea of Kompany being different from Guardiola.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:11pm On Jan 21, 2023
benji93:
This is why I say you are not a serious person. He mentioned heavy Possession-based, but did he say heavy possession-based means tiki-taka? You are not serious at all. Nobody who knows their onions says heavy Possession-based means tiki-taka. It simply means the system requires that players keep over 60% of the possession. I remember Van Gaal at Man Utd was keeping over 60% of possession consistently, but no one who knows their football would say it was tiki-taka. The very interesting person you are. You don't seem to understand that articles can be riddled with exaggerations. You have to actually read the entire thing to understand and see through the ruse. All you look for is an emphasis. Do you understand that the use of such words can be quite misleading?

Besides does anyone know a system better than the person using it? I showed you an article where Kompany in his interview with Ferdinand, said he would rather call my system "Possession with impact", not Possession tikitaka. Pls, do not tell me you know Kompany's system better than he does, cos that would be quite interesting. cheesy

So the article explains that the "Possession with impact" is what Kompany learnt from Guardiola.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:12pm On Jan 21, 2023
benji93:
This is why I say you are not a serious person. He mentioned heavy Possession-based, but did he say heavy possession-based means tiki-taka? You are not serious at all. Nobody who knows their onions says heavy Possession-based means tiki-taka. It simply means the system requires that players keep over 60% of the possession. I remember Van Gaal at Man Utd was keeping over 60% of possession consistently, but no one who knows their football would say it was tiki-taka. The very interesting person you are. You don't seem to understand that articles can be riddled with exaggerations. You have to actually read the entire thing to understand and see through the ruse. All you look for is an emphasis. Do you understand that the use of such words can be quite misleading?

Besides does anyone know a system better than the person using it? I showed you an article where Kompany in his interview with Ferdinand, said he would rather call my system "Possession with impact", not Possession tikitaka. Pls, do not tell me you know Kompany's system better than he does, cos that would be quite interesting. cheesy

Van Gaal at Manchester United was after Guardiola's breakthrough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:16pm On Jan 21, 2023
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:29pm On Jan 21, 2023
I loathe all that passing for the sake of it, all that tiki-taka. It's so much rubbish and has no purpose. You have to pass the ball with a clear intention, with the aim of making it into the opposition's goal.

It's not about passing for the sake of it.

Be yourselves. You need to dig into your own DNA. I hate tiki-taka. Tiki-taka means passing the ball for the sake of it, with no clear intention. And it's pointless.... Guardiola.


This goes down as one the biggest misconceptions in modern analytical football.

Many thought Guardiola was running down the way he played with Barcelona and was abandoning it.

However, they missed the concluding part of the Statement.



Don't believe what people say. Barca didn't do tiki-taka!... Guardiola.


That is why Kompany used possession with impact to differentiate himself from he misconception.

cc: benji93

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:33pm On Jan 21, 2023
That is where I simplified it. Tiki Taka means passing the ball excessively but Guardiola hates thar idea because there is a reason for each pass and an aim to achieve something with it. It was not passing for fun.

This leads possession heavy football. However with an impact. I still term Tiki Taka as possession heavy football to achieve dominance on the field and in goals.

Styles that stem from it is what I termed variant.

cc: benji93 still waiting for your point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:46pm On Jan 21, 2023
With an option to buy according to them.

Danielnino00:
Ekong could be joining Salarentina on loan this January.. As per sky sports.


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