FxMasterz:
The entire theology you posted up there is so warped that it couldn't have come from the Holy Spirit. Check yourself kobojunkie before it is too late.

Of course it is warped since it does not align with your religious doctrines and traditions which you have been carefully fed by your pastors and mogs.... men who don't even know God at all.

For instance, there is your continued insistence by your person that the Holy Spirit is the spirit one encounters when one becomes born-again, a doctrine that directly counters Jesus Christ's very own teaching which is that the Holy Spirit comes in after one has proven oneself worthy of the Truth of God, by living one's life in continuous submission and obedience of the Truth of God. Take time to review your beliefs against that which is taught by Jesus Christ in His Gospel to see how I cannot be expected to abide by false doctrines where Jesus Christ is concerned.

Excellent!

jaephoenix:

Throughout the whole world people turn to weapons and support in killing people for so many reasons but the Flying Spaghetti Monster commanded His own worshipers to drop weapons and we can see individuals including the most racist nations obeying wholeheartedly (DEMONSTRATION) of VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that a Spaghetti Monster is in control!
This is proof Spaghetti Monster exists

MaxInDHouse:
Excellent!

Good. Since both your Yahweh and Flying Spaghetti Monster exist, that means the Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and is the Most High and Supreme Being

Bravo!

jaephoenix:

Good. Since both your Yahweh and Flying Spaghetti Monster exist, that means the Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and is the Most High and Supreme Being

jaephoenix:

Actually, nobody showed any credentials about the property ownership. What I see is agents claiming to know the landlord, then after property inspection, I get to pay into certain accounts, and keys given to me. Obviously if they weren't acting on behalf of the landlord, I wouldn't get inside to examine the property or get the keys.
I don't know how your analogy relates to the universe creation dilemna

You did some form of assessment of the Truth before you made payment. Now remember, was their not one prospect that you went to check out but you saw for yourself that the agents/landlords were fake, which made you to not pay?

My analogy lies in your how you discovered the Truth in the 2 cases.

MaxInDHouse:
Bravo!

Thank you. I guess that ends our convo

Dtruthspeaker:


You did some form of assessment of the Truth before you made payment. Now remember, was their not one prospect that you went to check out but you saw for yourself that the agents/landlords were fake, which made you to not pay?

My analogy lies in your how you discovered the Truth in the 2 cases.

I have heard of fake agents, though. I have never encountered any. Never been swindled.
I told you I inspected properties, paid and got the keys. End of.
Still cant see the analogy here

It's great now that you're no longer an atheist at least you now believe in a CREATOR!

jaephoenix:

Thank you. I guess that ends our convo

Maynman:

There is no religion that has killed more people than Christianity.
Have you heard about the thirty years war?
Not only did the crusaders kill Muslims they also ate them as cannibals, crusaders also killed other fellow christians that were not part of the Catholic sect.
In Old Testament didn’t yahweh kill other tribes including kids because they worshipped a different god?
Theists killing Theists to prove their favorite god is the best.

And we are just talking about Christianity out of thousands of religion.
Imagine we add everything together.
Hitler was a theist. The colonizers that ruled africa are theists.

and you believe those people were like Christ?

Maynman:


Yahweh that drown the whole humanity?, we are yet to even talk about the genocides in Old Testament, crusaders and thirty years war.
No religion has killed more people than Christianity!

Communist are atheists? Bwahahahah

Yahweh is a Serial and hardened Murderer!

All these murders only on Christianity and yahweh, if we add just one more religion and its own deity to it nko

wow you actually believe that there's a being capable of killing almost all of humanity 😯

jaephoenix:


1. Your Yahweh specifically instructed the Israelites to slaughter everything that moves in the cities of Amalek, Canaan, Jericho, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites and others etc. Everything. Even babies. Same babies you claimed they were sacrificing to their gods, is the same your Yahweh instructed the Israelites to murder. He even got angry when the Israelites kept some of the people alive, he wanted them dead
And no, Yahweh specifically didn't ask the Israelites to offer peace to those people.
Summary of yahweh's lovely touch in the old testament
1. The Flood (Genesis 6-
2. The cities of the plain, including Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19)
3. The Egyptian firstborn sons during the Passover (Exodus 11-12)
4. The Canaanites under Moses and Joshua (Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21)
5. The Amalekites annihilated by Saul (1 Samuel 15)
Let’s consider three categories of Old Testament texts that are morally problematic:

the “crimes” for which God prescribes the death penalty,
God’s anger and wrath in punishing his people, and
God’s command to the Israelites to commit genocide.
The death penalty. There are numerous “crimes” for which God, through the Law of Moses, requires the death penalty. Among these are sacrificing to a god other than Yahweh (Exodus 22:20), persistent rebelliousness on the part of a child (Deuteronomy 21:18–21), a child who hits or curses his or her parents (Exodus 21:15 and 17), working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), premarital sexual intercourse (Deuteronomy 22:13–21), and the requirement for a priest to burn his daughter alive if she became a prostitute (Leviticus 21:9).

God’s anger and wrath. In the Old Testament, God’s anger repeatedly burns against his people for their disobedience. At times, the punishment he dispenses seems particularly harsh, unjust, and disproportionate. Let’s consider just one example.

In 2 Samuel 24, we find that King David decided to take a census of the men of fighting age. The prophet Gad was sent to David to announce God’s displeasure with the taking of the census. The punishment for David’s sin: “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died” (2 Samuel 24:15). David makes a decision that does not please God, and God kills 70,000 Israelites for it? How could this action ever be reconciled with a God of mercy, compassion, justice, and love?

Oh, What a loving god

The peaceful demeanor only started in the new testament, and it was by Jesus, not by Yahweh. And if you say both are the same, then you insinuate Yahweh is schizophrenic

P.S. Christianity alone(not counting other religions) have killed more. From Hitler, the Crusades, Witch trials in Europe and America, Huguenot Wars, The Inquisition etc has killed more than Mao and Stalin

and you believe that there's a being called God that did all this 😯

Maynman:

Did yahweh have a change of heart when he gave birth?

why? Do you care? 😳😏😆

MaxInDHouse:



Before the birth of Jesus the God of Abraham planned to establish pure worship because all the inhabitants of the earth are worshiping other Gods {Joshua 24:2} that's why the nations were fighting as their different Gods were striving for territories using worshipers as their soldiers but most times the Israelites God fights for His own people! Exodus 14:14

But after Jesus worshipers of Jehovah spread throughout the earth so they can't possibly be killing themselves as worshipers of the same God JEHOVAH!

psalm 24:1

jaephoenix:

Actually, many of those Yahweh ordered to be destroyed were people who were going about their bizness, and not harassing the israelites

and here I was wondering why police catches thief that didn't steal from them

MaxInDHouse:


Study the Bible well before arguing there is no nation Jehovah ordered the Israelites to attack that's innocent!

wonder what his response was

MaxInDHouse:


Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM)

Well i know you're just trying to crack jokes with that but please if you're the type who easily gets annoyed when someone disturbing you with questions suddenly turn everything to joke don't bring up anything like Flying Spaghetti because the next time you do i will always turn your questions into jokes no matter how angry you may be.

There is no child molester JW because i've not seen one therefore all those stories could easily be compared to what people around you are saying about God/Gods and since you never experience one you too never believe!

wait was jaephoenix molested as a child ,

jaephoenix:

If I see videos or photo of Yahweh creating the world, why won't I believe he exists?
In the case of these links…

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-elder-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison-for-sexual-abuse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46131196.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1082136

… are you saying they were wrongly accused and jailed without evidence, even when they confessed?

share that video of big bang I want to check something 😏

jaephoenix:

Maxindhouse, you dodged this post

waiting for your video o

FxMasterz:

Have you read his response to me? Did I call on you to attack anyone? You queried me on my response to kobojunkie, and instead of making any personal judgement on him, I invited you to analyze his response to me, and either confirm or reject my previous answers to him. Do you now have words of advice for me or kobojunkie after reading his response?

and I replied you by saying I do not agree to things I am not aware of and I do not agree to blaspheming the holy spirit

jaephoenix:

I have heard of fake agents, though. I have never encountered any. Never been swindled.
I told you I inspected properties, paid and got the keys. End of.
Still cant see the analogy here

there's always a first time 😁

Will your eyes open then 😂

gohf:
why? Do you care? 😳😏😆

Was I replying to you? 🤷‍♂️
Or are you a fellow baldheads worshipper like the guy i was replying to?

gohf:
wow you actually believe that there's a being capable of killing almost all of humanity 😯

According to the tanakh mythology which yahweh worshippers base their lives on.

gohf:
and you believe those people were like Christ?

without them their is no “Christ”.
Give thanks to Romans and Catholic for creating Iesus chrestus.
Nicene Christianity is from Judaism!

gohf:
wonder what his response was

My mission is complete at least jaephoenix now believes in a Creator he's no longer qualified to be called "ATHEIST"

jaephoenix:

I have heard of fake agents, though. I have never encountered any. Never been swindled.
I told you I inspected properties, paid and got the keys. End of.
Still cant see the analogy here

Are you saying that you have never gone to view a property which from the beginning you had doubts as to the authenticity of either the property or the agent or both?

Since you said you have no experience in this area then you can not answer my question, so try this other one.

Have you been offered with a thing that you immediately suspected that it was stolen?

gohf:
and I replied you by saying I do not agree to things I am not aware of and I do not agree to blaspheming the holy spirit

I do not understand the bolded part. When people speak or write to us, as matured believers, we can read between the lines and provide godly counsels where necessary. What I did was to provide godly counsels to him where I saw he was wrong. You countered me for that, and now I'm asking you whether you could now see that my perceptions about him were correct or not. Or may I ask you 'What advice do you now have for him after reading his response?' Or perhaps, you still have reasons to counter me again?

FxMasterz:

I do not understand the bolded part. When people speak or write to us, as matured believers, we can read between the lines and provide godly counsels where necessary. What I did was to provide godly counsels to him where I saw he was wrong. You countered me for that, and now I'm asking you whether you could now see that my perceptions about him were correct or not. Or may I ask you 'What advice do you now have for him after reading his response?' Or perhaps, you still have reasons to counter me again?

advice? You asked me if I agreed with him on something he posted about blasphemy which I answered you.

I also did not agree with your initial approach to, as you put it "read between the lines", when you can clearly read the lines and ask for clarification of what he was saying. From the few things Kobo has posted that I have read, some of them are weird, some are wrong and some are right. We all see in part and he may have his issues.

I must say quite a number of you here assume a lot instead of simply asking. If you see someone is wrong you may also be wrong in seeing or see wrongly. You don't need to add to what he said or change the context of it. And I don't have to respond to every weird wrapped up thing he post, if God tells me what to write I will

Maynman:


without them their is no “Christ”.
Give thanks to Romans and Catholic for creating Iesus chrestus.
Nicene Christianity is from Judaism!

how does this answer the simple question asked you

Maynman:


According to the tanakh mythology which yahweh worshippers base their lives on.

Oga do you believe or not

Maynman:


Was I replying to you? 🤷‍♂️
Or are you a fellow baldheads worshipper like the guy i was replying to?

why? Are you afraid to be honest?

MaxInDHouse:
It's great now that you're no longer an atheist at least you now believe in a CREATOR!

Yup. All glory and honor be to the Holy Noodly Limbs. He hath delivered me from the curse of atheism. I praise my god The Flying Spaghetti Monster

gohf:
and you believe those people were like Christ?

They said so. Who are we to disagree? Same way you claim to be a christian