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Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 11:36am On Feb 22, 2023 |
Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by CodeTemplar: 2:02pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
The urchins among them did it and as you know urchins can be intimidating to obedient people. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 2:19pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Messiah means the anointed one, and it has to be anointed with LITERALLY OIL, there are many messiahs in the tanakh. 2 Likes
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:01pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
CodeTemplar:Who then are these Jewish urchins? |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:04pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:There are many presidents as there is the President of a country. I speak of "the Messiah" anointed by God Himself and not Man . This one John 1:41: "He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messiah, which is, being interpreted, the Christ." John 4:25: "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things." |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 3:06pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: The word “messiah” LITERALLY means anointed with OIL, or anyone in position of authority. There are many messiahs in the tanakh. Saul, samuel, david etc. That’s why the jews reject your Iesus chrestus that is only found in the New Testament created by CHRESTIANS. 1 Like
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:33pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:Who then were the Jews EXPECTING when they can just literally POUR oil on the head of any Jewish man? |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 3:37pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Did samuel POUR OIL on any just jewish man?
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 3:38pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: They where expecting a king that will raise an Army that will save them from their enemies round them and restore peace..... Salvation in Jewish concept is usually saving from physical danger..... God already gave them a solution to the problem of sin |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:41pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sonmvayina:This means that the Messiah is not just any one anointed with oil. Didn't I mention that in my post that the Messiah was supposed to be the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital ? |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 3:42pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Yes it has not happened.. They are still waiting.... Jesus is not the Messiah God promised them. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 3:43pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_messiah_claimants Nawa oo, africans busy debating Semitic gods. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 3:52pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman: They are still the same gods everywhere.. Just with a different name.. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:52pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sonmvayina:If it had not happened and the Messiah had not yet come, can you please defend Allah's truthful statement in the Qur'an that the Jews CLAIMED that they killed the Messiah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" If the Qur'an is True AND The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 3:55pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sonmvayina:El the father of the cannanite patheon religion can be traced to Akkadians as Ilu. Marduk na small boy, they are not the same.
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 3:57pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:Who was Daniel speaking of here Dan 9:25: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Dan 9:26: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 3:59pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Here. Daniel chapters from 7 to 12 are actually talking about the Antiochene crisis that happened around 168 BCE.
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 4:01pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:I didn't ask you of the Christian version, I asked of of Daniel's |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 4:03pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ:Then use the correct text, the tanakh not your kjv again it was talking about Antiochene crisis. All kings are Messiahs.
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 4:05pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:Open your Tanakh to the book of Daniel and reference it Who was Daniel speaking of here ? Dan 9:25: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Dan 9:26: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 4:06pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Who told you the author is DANIEL? You are literally quoting the tanakh, just use the masoteric text not king james VERSION Daniel is about Antiochene crisis All Israelite Kings are messiahs. Read Slowly.
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 4:10pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman: Lol..Marduk won his place in the pantheon.. Marduk is the creator of the universe.. The lugal dimmer ankia.. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 4:12pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sonmvayina:Marduk is a small boy. He won his place in the patheon someone that is the creator of universe bwahahahah
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 4:12pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: I can't defend absurdities.. Both Christian and Muslim are wrong. Islam was never a separate religion, it was created by Arabian Christians...The qoran was a lectionary of selected text from both the old and new testament.... I am not a Christian I am not a Muslim.. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 4:16pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
sonmvayina:So, you have no relevance to this thread. It is not by force to comment on what you don't know anything about. The Discussion Question is for TenQ: |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 4:18pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:I guess you've never read a Tanakh before else, you'll know. Thanks for your visit before you derail the thread. You are free to open your own thread. Thanks |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 4:19pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Illiterate, tanakh is what Christians call Old Testament bwahahahah
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by sonmvayina(m): 4:27pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Ok.. |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 4:34pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:Can you see how you expose your warped arguments? Please go away! 1 Like |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 4:35pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: Illiterate, tanakh is what Christians call Old Testament. You are empty! 1 Like
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Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by TenQ: 5:23pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
Maynman:Guess you are so dumb TenQ:You didn't see this! SMH! |
Re: Why Would The Jews Kill Their Messiah by Maynman: 5:24pm On Feb 22, 2023 |
TenQ: You are dumber just like yahweh. You are LITERALLY quoting the tanakh, you christians call Old Testament. Who told you the author is DANIEL? Messiah means Anointed with literally oil or anyone in position of authority, all israelite kings are Messiahs. Read slowly.
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