😂😂 yes o your epa dey pa ara e, no b same u dey go fake Portugal wey dey curse Nigerians the other day... u need to see someone ASAP, na small e remain fr u to enter market👌.
The mere fact that you insinuate Yoruba need too learn something from the igbos shows you didnt give your position a good thought
Yes the igbos are business oriented and enterprising no doubt... That is where thier gifts as a people show, although I have my reservations about the sources of wealth of some, that parade themselves as legitimate business people, but I digress
We all need to learn to see each other as people first, and transcend tribalistic tendencies and then we need to recognize and embrace the power in our diversity for the benefit of ALL ... Not for you to come and be telling Yoruba people to learn this and that from the Igbo people becasue that will mean Yoruba people lack those things and you are absolutely mistaking!!!!
Iwo gan gan lo ye ko ronu!
lol okay. Buga yii nani. The same thing I just stated in the OP
BanyXchi: iboland is a poverty-stricken shithole, you're delusional.
Even small ebonyi that just experienced gud leadership with dave umahi is stil well developed and beautiful than almighty igr ogun. They just built their own aiport oo.make una de sleep on tribalism
Lol. Even ogun state with a large igr cant be compared to imo in terms of development and beauty. Keep foolish ur selves. Btw, I'm from Benue
yeah, Ogun state with a IGR as big as that of iboland combined is more industrialized than your poverty-stricken shithole region. And stop claiming Benue, Osu
BanyXchi: yeah, Ogun state with a IGR as big as that of iboland combined is more industrialized than your poverty-stricken shithole region. And stop claiming Benue, Osu
Wat do u have on ground to show for the large igr? Oga travel. Igr that has been channeled into bourdilon. Not to show for the igr. Ogun have the worst roads in the west followed by Lagos. Make una de travel o.
BanyXchi: yeah, Ogun state with a IGR as big as that of iboland combined is more industrialized than your poverty-stricken shithole region. And stop claiming Benue, Osu
As Benue man, i don't envy Yoruba land. Because una land no develope or fine. As a Benue i wish my governors are like those of igboland. Eg, soludo, umahi, not thugs and thieves parading themselves as leaders in ur land
They can never be proud of their lineage hence impersonating others
The mumu was even trying to teach the industrious yorubas how to do trade
He didn't know Yoruba don't do petty buy and selling of goods, we re more into magnificent rendering of services that is why we have many servicing companies in our names, just that we don't do braggado
Even small ebonyi that just experienced gud leadership with dave umahi is stil well developed and beautiful than almighty igr ogun. They just built their own aiport oo.make una de sleep on tribalism
you're mentally deranged and you should seek help Osu. Ebonyi is on top 3 poorest states in the country, poorer than most northern states. That place should be turned to a massive national cemetery.
I've been to all the states in your shithole region, don't you find it ironic talking about bad roads. Again don't compare your shithole to SW, we're far apart. Just keep your delusions to yourself
BanyXchi: yeah, Ogun state with a IGR as big as that of iboland combined is more industrialized than your poverty-stricken shithole region. And stop claiming Benue, Osu
How has the IGR helped alleviate poverty in Ogun state. This is the same thing I keep telling us. Ronu.
What is wrong with our ibo brothers and sisters? Since they lost the presidential election and the Lagos State election, they've opened more than 1000 threads to castigate the Yorubas, using Yoruba names some of the time.
This one is saying nonsense. Go to Bodija foodstuff market in Ibadan and see multitude of traders selling foodstuff side by side everyday. Bodija market is one of the biggest markets in West Africa.
Go to Beere, Ibadan. It's the major bookselling market in Ibadan. You'll see many traders selling books side by side.
There is nothing to learn from ibos by Yorubas. Remember we taught you how to read. You are the ones learning from us.
As Benue man, i don't envy Yoruba land. Because una land no develope or fine. As a Benue i wish my governors are like those of igboland. Eg, soludo, umahi, not thugs and thieves parading themselves as leaders in ur land
continue to deceive yourself Osu alusi. It's only you animals that deny your tribe, shameless lots.
The mumu was even trying to teach the industrious yorubas how to do trade
He didn't know Yoruba don't do petty buy and selling of goods, we re more into magnificent rendering of services that is why we have many servicing companies in our names, just that we don't do braggado
I have told you the truth. Igberaga oni je ki o rii otito inu oro yi.
Yorubas have some strengths which igbos can learn from. I am telling you the truth about Yorubas and you know what I am saying is the truth
BanyXchi: you're mentally deranged and you should seek help Osu. Ebonyi is on top 3 poorest states in the country, poorer than most northern states. That place should be turned to a massive national cemetery.
I've been to all the states in your shithole region, don't you find it ironic talking about bad roads. Again don't compare your shithole to SW, we're far apart. Just keep your delusions to yourself
one is the capital of the state with big IGR, the other is the capital of ebonyi. You can easily spot from the landscape of the two cities where money circulates more. You can easily know where more people are living in more exteme poverty with low quality of life.
What's now the purpose of the IGR if the citizens cannot feel the impact, get enough money to renovate their houses and live quality lives?
The money is usually stock with the elites while the poor citizens come online to defend them
Trollronaldo: There are plenty of misconception being spread by other tribes about the igbos but for me, these misconceptions are not true. You will hear things like, igbos don't like each other, igbos don't help each other and Igbos are wicked. All are propaganda and I will prove it. Since the Civil War, the Igbo has come from scratch, helped themselves into becoming financially prosperous and today by per capita, Igbo people are arguably the most prosperous tribe. This will not have been possible if igbos don't help themselves, or they envy each other a lot or they don't like themselves. It's true because igbos are hated, they have been the people helping themselves. There's no tribe where people don't envy themselves or kill themselves. But people are painting the picture that it's more within the Igbo tribe, it's not true.
So how were igbos able to recover after the war:
1. Igbos know how to entertain competitors.
Go to major markets in Nigeria, let me make example of what we Yorubas can relate to: have you ever been to Ladipo or computer village to buy stuffs? You will see many Igbo people selling the same thing linning up in raws. You will never see them compete aggressively, they will not envy themselves and try to fight over customers. They will even most times trade products between each other and even refer customers to themselves. Have you even entered an Igbo man's shop and he tells you that this product dey my other shop? Na lie, he's going to his fellow Igbo man shop to get it for you. This cannot be possible if they hate themselves. It's the key to how they succeed. Yoruba people do not know how to maintain healthy competition. In my street, two Yoruba people that are selling the same product, they will fight themselves over customers. I have seen this happen over and over again. 2000 Igbo people can sell the same thing in on location and you will not hear anything problem, they will even help themselves to sell. You cannot put 10 Yoruba people selling the same product in one line, they will quarrel and fight. We are greedy. On my street, Two Yorubas selling sweet and pure water will fight for customers, two Yorubas selling sepe and ogogoro will still fight and become envious of each other, they cannot create healthy business environment for themselves. Hausas also tolerate their brothers in business, they allow healthy competition between each other hence its why you can see hausas in thr markets selling the same thing. Yorubas will always fight over space and customers. Yorubas are more envious than Igbo people, this is what is playing out in the poltical space. We are greedy.
2. Igbos have this inherent brotherhood attitude.
This is the reason why whenever you visit their houses or shops, you will see someone there that is not his child, even most times this person will not be directly related to that Igbo person. They usually just help people from their village. They bring them to cities, train them in formal education and in business and after a while, this person will be independent and then goes on to bring another person. How will this be possible if they don't like each other or they don't help each other? There's never going to be a time when you will see a wealthy Igbo man that has not brought someone from his village out of poverty. It's a brotherhood code for them. Hausas and Yorubas also do this to a certain degree but to an Igbo man, this is a culture and a norm. They don't see it like they are helping anyone, it's a culture and a responsibility.
A wealthy hausa man will prefer to give alms to the poor ones around him instead of genuinely helping that person by formally and vocationally training that person. This is where igbos are ahead. In every town and cities, Igbo people usually form village associations where they help each other with busine loans and otherwise. Yes, this is true, I know this. Thy have that brotherhood spirit.
3. Igbo people plan their marital lives more than any other tribe.
Igbos don't give birth like chickens, even the most illiterate Igbo man will always want to give birth to children he's capable of training. This is what you don't see always within thr Yorubas and even worse with the hausas. Indescriminate child birth is a recipe for poverty. When you leave Lagos (even in certain parts of lagos), Yorubas can give birth indescriminately, they will give birth to children that they cannot train. This brews poverty. Igbos attitude of controlled child birth has helped them recover from thr Biafran war. We should learn this from them.
What can we learn from them? 1. Healthy competition: we are too greedy, we want to have it all and at the end of the day, we become penny wise and pounds foolish. It's the reason why we cannot allow southeast become president now. We don't like healthy competition, we are envious. If it's an Igbo man that has become president before, I am sure that they will allow southwest have it. They do it everyday in their businessss. Its why 500 Igbo man can sell the same product in one location without issues.
2. Brotherhood: Even with all the political power that Yorubas have, the wealth amassed doesn't flow down to average Yoruba people. It usually remains within the circle of the elites. It's why I think most yorubas don't know what they are doing. We don't help our people. We use them and then leave them to suffer. Give Igbo people this power, you will see how they will help themselves prosper. It's in their blood, it's why you will see them bringing themselves to city to learn business.
Yoruba Ronu, you are pawns in the house of your wicked poltical elites. They become rich and wealthy, they want to keep you impoverished so they can use you for their own political wishes. You as a yoruba may think that you are winning politically but it's not you, it's the poltical elites. You life still won't change if you don't learn these little things from igbos
Great insight.
That picking of someone from the village to train in business is a business/trade culture in Igbo land with a name "igba boi" or "imu ahia".
The community union you talked about also among Igbos in the city is known as "community development unions" "town unions" though its not as functional as it was in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Also the culture of traveling back to their village at the end of the year or during festivities no matter where they live and this help Igbos to take development to their Igbo rural hometowns
I think Yoruba people should tidy up their society and have their independent government. Ours will work well be stable and efficient. Yoruba land will be a very beautiful place to live very sure of that. We are more in to academia, research and development as well as industrialisation. These are the things that give a society money to function properly and cater for it's citizens . What we have is a people exploiting the economy with excessive importation of cheap substandard or secondhand goods. Let me ask you do we have Alaba market in USA? Do we have computer village in Dubai? Yoruba people need to use their intelectualism do develop their society we are not an importation and trading mass of people. Let us simply organise ourselves better as a people, as a state as a civilisation. Visitors can be allowed to work and stay with relivant documentation.
Stop misleading people. I served my NYSC is Eboyin state please don't compare it to just ijebuode or Abeokuta. Stop this propaganda nonsense.
Workch: one is the capital of the state with big IGR, the other is the capital of ebonyi. You can easily spot from the landscape of the two cities where money circulates more. You can easily know where more people are living in more exteme poverty with low quality of life.
What's now the purpose of the IGR if the citizens cannot feel the impact, get enough money to renovate their houses and love quality life?
The money is usually stock with the elites while the poor citizens come online to defend them
skj1377: I think Yoruba people should tidy up their society and have their independent government. Ours will work well be stable and efficient. Yoruba land will be a very beautiful place to live very sure of that. We are more in to academia, research and development as well as industrialisation. These are the things that give a society money to function properly and cater for it's citizens . What we have is a people exploiting the economy with excessive importation of cheap substandard or secondhand goods. Let me ask you do we have Alaba market in USA? Do we have computer village in Dubai? Yoruba people need to use their intelectualism do develop their society we are not an importation and trading mass of people. Let us simply organise ourselves better as a people, as a state as a civilisation. Visitors can be allowed to work and stay with relivant documentation.
Yorubas cannot build any world class city on their own except if the federal government comes in like they did in Lagos. Give Yorubas power many times, they will still not leave the Lagos clutch. Aside Lagos, no city in Yoruba land is anything near developed, including Ibadan. A yoruba system is all about oligarchy, where elites squander the wealth of the people, the followed are very loyal to their corrupt elites and little human capacity development will thrive.
Look at osogbo, Ado Ekiti, Akure and Abeokuta, are those cities competitive even within Nigeria? Think about it.
You all think you can build anything because federal government built Lagos. We built our own cities by ourselves without the help of federal government and we did that in less than 60 years.
You opened your account yesterday and you only come to spew trash
MrAgbako: I.gbos dark sides is what they themselves can't take that is why they don't like to live in their region... Quit the damage control. We know Igbo good and bad sides like we know money. Yoruba have nothing to learn from igbos. It is igbos that rather have a lot of lessons to learn from Yorubas their elder brother in everything in life
skj1377: Stop misleading people. I served my NYSC is Eboyin state please don't compare it to just ijebuode or Abeokuta. Stop this propaganda nonsense.
Ijebu ode has wealthy men, no doubt but the wealth no circulate. It's hegemonized.
Go to Ijebu ode today, nothing dey there aside the flyover on the express road and Lagos garage. The whole of ijebu has bad roads aside from Ibadan road and ijirin road. I know what I am saying. Poverty is in the town, while we have some wealthy sparsely scatter but more people are poor. Have you ever tried boarding a bus from ijebu ode to Lagos? You will see extreme poverty within the the called Yorubas. The fastest growing business in ijebu ode is yahoo yahoo. You know what I am saying.
You people are too loyal to your corrupt leaders, and it's dragging everyone back because you are giving them unwarranted power
Another yoruba recolonized ndigbo citizen doing damage control. The reverse psychology is dead on arrival. Come learn from Yorubas perhaps we can donate you some of our leaders to help develop the east for y'all. Y'all should be ready to drop that egoist and bigoted attitude towards Yorubas. Hausa's put you in your place. Yorubas will put you in your place too since your IPOB terrorist brothers keep crossing their boundary. The west is not the east.
It is rank foolishness to reduce everything to tribal back and forth argument...
The Igbos are not perfect but there are a lot things the Yorubas can learn from the Igbos which will go a long way to reduce the tension existing between both peoples...
Foremost is the sense of justice. An Igbo person can die just to uphold equity and justice.
It is like this Tinubu issue. We Igbos cannot wrap our heads around the fact that another Yorubaman is ready to burn the country down just to become president even Obasanjo, another Yorubaman has been president for 8 years.
I am sure that if the scales were turned, it is even Igbos who would have led the vanguard to ensure that another Igboman doesn't take a position that should rightfully go to people should have it.
It is purely the way the Igbo consciousness and worldview is programmed
Secondly, in the area of commerce and trading, it is a shame that the Yorubas are poor learners in the commercial prowess for which the Igbos have achieved global renown.
You go to a stret and see an Igboman build a thriving chain of stores from a four by four shop.
How does he do it? He embraces excellent customer service. He smiles at the customer. He rarely quarrels or antagonizes a customer. He makes sure that he has a wide range of goods. He buys from the source to reduce cost price. He invests money to create a good aesthetics and ambience He is forward-thinking in the location of his business. He goes where most people dread. He doesn't flinch in the face of competition: bring on the Chinese, the Indian or the Lebanese. He has a religious devotion to frugality and diligence.
His Yoruba co-resident has been watching. He opens a shop not because of the desire to provide service but purely because of either envy or partake in the business largesse of the Igboman.
.just one year down the line. He closes down the shop because he has been rude to customers. He has most likely used his capital to bankroll frivolous parties. He never had a stomach for venturesomeness and risk-taking...
Trollronaldo: I have told you the truth. Igberaga oni je ki o rii otito inu oro yi.
Yorubas have some strengths which igbos can learn from. I am telling you the truth about Yorubas and you know what I am saying is the truth
The tin is I didn't even bother to read what u typed up there, the first few words gave it away.
See, I would even have read it if u had not said "we yorubas" as if u re one..
I like it when one is proud of his tribe, that is why u see us killing everybody when we heard that some strangers are saying our land is no man's land.
Be proud of Ur tribe bro, stop impersonating, person wey go listen to u go listen
maintenant: It is rank foolishness to reduce everything to tribal back and forth argument...
The Igbos are not perfect but there are a lot things the Yorubas can learn from the Igbos which will go a long way to reduce the tension existing between both peoples...
Foremost is the sense of justice. An Igbo person can die just to uphold equity and justice.
It is like this Tinubu issue. We Igbos cannot wrap our heads around the fact that another Yorubaman is ready to burn the country down just to become president even Obasanjo, another Yorubaman has been president for 8 years.
I am sure that if the scales were turned, it is even Igbos who would have led the vanguard to ensure that another Igboman doesn't take a position that should rightfully go to people should have it.
It is purely the way the Igbo consciousness and worldview is programmed
Secondly, in the area of commerce and trading, it is a shame that the Yorubas are poor learners in the commercial prowess for which the Igbos have achieved global renown.
You go to a stret and see an Igboman build a thriving chain of stores from a four by four shop.
How does he do it? He embraces excellent customer service. He smiles at the customer. He rarely quarrels or antagonizes a customer. He makes sure that he has a wide range of goods. He buys from the source to reduce cost price. He invests money to create a good aesthetics and ambience He is forward-thinking in the location of his business. He goes where most people dread. He doesn't flinch in the face of competition: bring on the Chinese, the Indian or the Lebanese. He has a religious devotion to frugality and diligence.
His Yoruba co-resident has been watching. He opens a shop not because of the desire to provide service but purely because of either envy or partake in the business largesse of the Igboman.
.just one year down the line. He closes down the shop because he has been rude to customers. He has most likely used his capital to bankroll frivolous parties. He never had a stomach for venturesomeness and risk-taking...
maintenant: It is rank foolishness to reduce everything to tribal back and forth argument...
The Igbos are not perfect but there are a lot things the Yorubas can learn from the Igbos which will go a long way to reduce the tension existing between both peoples...
Foremost is the sense of justice. An Igbo person can die just to uphold equity and justice.
It is like this Tinubu issue. We Igbos cannot wrap our heads around the fact that another Yorubaman is ready to burn the country down just to become president even Obasanjo, another Yorubaman has been president for 8 years.
I am sure that if the scales were turned, it is even Igbos who would have led the vanguard to ensure that another Igboman doesn't take a position that should rightfully go to people should have it.
It is purely the way the Igbo consciousness and worldview is programmed
Secondly, in the area of commerce and trading, it is a shame that the Yorubas are poor learners in the commercial prowess for which the Igbos have achieved global renown.
You go to a stret and see an Igboman build a thriving chain of stores from a four by four shop.
How does he do it? He embraces excellent customer service. He smiles at the customer. He rarely quarrels or antagonizes a customer. He makes sure that he has a wide range of goods. He buys from the source to reduce cost price. He invests money to create a good aesthetics and ambience He is forward-thinking in the location of his business. He goes where most people dread. He doesn't flinch in the face of competition: bring on the Chinese, the Indian or the Lebanese. He has a religious devotion to frugality and diligence.
His Yoruba co-resident has been watching. He opens a shop not because of the desire to provide service but purely because of either envy or partake in the business largesse of the Igboman.
.just one year down the line. He closes down the shop because he has been rude to customers. He has most likely used his capital to bankroll frivolous parties. He never had a stomach for venturesomeness and risk-taking...
Before you dash us clothes, let us see your wardrobe first
MrAgbako: I.gbos dark sides is what they themselves can't take that is why they don't like to live in their region... Quit the damage control. We know Igbo good and bad sides like we know money. Yoruba have nothing to learn from igbos. It is igbos that rather have a lot of lessons to learn from Yorubas their elder brother in everything in life
This is why you will kill non Yorubas and even Yorubas because of your politicians but tomorrow you will become agberos. Youroubas people now are even becoming beggars like the Hausa mo thanks to their politician. You guys have refused to learn from the Igbos but you keep supporting criminals who use and dump you, turn most of you to beggars, agberos and ritualists. Make una get sense!
