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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Nobody: 7:21am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Femmyfamous4u: The IBOs made it that way. Charly Boy never loved Soyinka. His father, late Retired Justice Oputa and his generation of IBO elites hate Soyinka. Charly Boy is only trying to ignite the battle the generation of his father fought against Soyinka in the late 80s. The only difference is the presence of Social media now. The present day youths and those Yorubas claiming obedient never knew Soyinka fought a serious and intensive war with IBOs just because he won Nobel Laurel. General IBB and the military ruling class in the late 80s till early90s will still remember of this psychological warfare between IBO elites and Soyinka in the late 80s just because Soyinka won Nobel Laurel. Soyinka was celebrated all over the world for winning the Nobel Laurel in Literature. While Soyinka was being celebrated in Ghana and other African countries, in Nigeria, there was an Academic war, literature war and tribal war against Soyinka by the IBO elites. It was very tough. The IBO elites said the Nobel Laurel given to Soyinka is a ' TOXIC WASTE' dumped in Nigeria. Before Soyinka won Nobel Laurel during IBB regime, a foreign ship brought deadly Toxic Waste from Europe and dumped the waste at Koko through Warri Port. That Toxic Waste dumped in Nigeria at Warri (Koko) was a major National News that generated National discussion for a very long time. The IBO elites both in Academic and other endeavours fought Soyinka because he became a Nobel Laurette. They said the Nobel Laurel given to Soyinka is a ' TOXIC WASTE' dumped in Nigeria. This is the height of hatred. The hatred continued till Achebe died. 8 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 7:25am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Rimbaldi: I agree with you that the argument is unnecessary. However if a man who hitherto has been seen as a sage in literature decides to descend into the gutter so as to defend a corrupt politician from his tribe that benefitted from a rigged election then we have to question the respect that he has been receiving. Achebe rejected a national award from Obasanjo because he believes the 2003 election was heavily rigged by the PDP particularly in Anambra. Dr. Ngige who benefitted from the rigging was from the same Local government as Achebe yet he condemned the act and the subsequent actrocities. That is what we call integrity. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by starstaz(m): 7:31am On Apr 09, 2023 |
babaolofin: Thank you for this proper education on our history (( am sure this Nobel award will come in 1986)). Many of us are too young to understand the ignominy PWS suffered in the hands of our lousy and emotionally disruptive neighbors , from generation to generation. 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Fiscus105(m): 7:31am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Legitisreal: What about the "trial of brother Jero" |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Nobody: 7:34am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: The IBOs made it that way. Charly Boy never loved Soyinka. His father, late Retired Justice Oputa and his generation of IBO elites hate Soyinka. Charly Boy is only trying to ignite the battle the generation of his father fought against Soyinka in the late 80s. The only difference is the presence of Social media now. The present day youths and those Yorubas claiming obedient never knew Soyinka fought a serious and intensive war with IBOs just because he won Nobel Laurel. General IBB and the military ruling class in the late 80s till early90s will still remember of this psychological warfare between IBO elites and Soyinka in the late 80s just because Soyinka won Nobel Laurel. Soyinka was celebrated all over the world for winning the Nobel Laurel in Literature. While Soyinka was being celebrated in Ghana and other African countries, in Nigeria, there was an Academic war, literature war and tribal war against Soyinka by the IBO elites. It was very tough. The IBO elites said the Nobel Laurel given to Soyinka is a ' TOXIC WASTE' dumped in Nigeria. Before Soyinka won Nobel Laurel during IBB regime, a foreign ship brought deadly Toxic Waste from Europe and dumped the waste at Koko through Warri Port. That Toxic Waste dumped in Nigeria at Warri (Koko) was a major National News that generated National discussion for a very long time. The IBO elites both in Academic and other endeavours fought Soyinka because he became a Nobel Laurette. They said the Nobel Laurel given to Soyinka is a ' TOXIC WASTE' dumped in Nigeria. This is the height of hatred. The hatred continued till Achebe died. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Legitisreal: 7:34am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Fiscus105:dude those books were too advanced for me to comprehend then It's the same thing with the godfather movie at that time I got to a certain age before understanding that movie, I have not done back to soyinka books Sha Soyinka is too deep, Achebe own you can we'll grab his stories as a kid |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 7:35am On Apr 09, 2023 |
babaolofin: Soyinka is like Mikel Obi who won the EPL and Champions league but has no sublime talent. Hence even with his Nobel prizee, none of his readers can mention any of his books that is a masterclass. Achebe is like Okocha who did not win the EPL or Champions league but has sublime talents. Hence people love his books all over the world. His masterclass, Things fall Apart has been translated into over 50 languages. With all the trophies win by Mikel, he is still inferior to Okocha in the soccer world. Similarly, even with the Nobel prize, Soyinka is still inferior to Achebe. If not, then mention one of Soyinka books and let's compare the intellectual content with either four of these books by Achebe 1. Arrow of God 2. Things fall Apart 3. No longer at Ease 4. A man of the People |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 7:36am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Kudos to Professor Wole Soyinka who looks more responsible than Charly boy . I want my son to be like prof Wole Soyinka not like charly boy An hero of south west The only Nobel laureate in Nigeria. He was regarded today by the world as the best in literature A living legend God bless you sir Like if you want your son or future son to be like Prof Wole Soyinka Share if you want your son to be like Charly boy who was once denounced by his father 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Ferdinandu(m): 7:36am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Legitisreal:You are just an envious fool who is lying to himself that he is neutral. Nobody is taking anybody as god or whatever your envious mind can conjure. The people are just fighting for Justice and equity but your envious mind blinded you totally to be seeing something different |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Zorn: 7:38am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Legitisreal:I didn't see where charleyboy mentioned Yoruba in that tweet. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by labi1977(m): 7:43am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Hedonini: Shut up ! you've all lost wailfully again, as usual, and will continue to lose until you learn diplomacy. Apc might even produce an Igbo president long before you people get your act together. Then Igbos will anoint him as a saint. 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Legitisreal: 7:43am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Ferdinandu:is it that you can't be civil for once Come to think of it, what is equity and justice? Your equity and justice is not the same for everyone Obi is a fraud, in terms of projects umuahi has done better than him in infrastructures. Me am pdp south south man so yes am neutral in the Igbo vs Yoruba fight, obi was in PDP for years there is no equity and justice without fairness Obi ganged up tribal religious PDP voters with cheap emotions and lead them astray 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Nobody: 7:43am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: I will come back later to reply to your thrash. I replied Professor ABC Nwosu on Social media and in one National Newspaper when he defended Professor Achebe for blackmailing and assaulting Chief Obafemi Awolowo in his book - 'There was a country'. That blackmailing and assault of Awolowo by Achebe generated a lot of controversy. It was Prof ABC Nwosu that was defending Achebe for blackmailing Awolowo. Charly Boy is only trying to ignite what the generation of his father did. 5 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Legitisreal: 7:44am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Zorn:like I said your half sense can only deceive yourself Invoking soyinka vs Achebe comparison is invoking tribal war |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 7:46am On Apr 09, 2023 |
starstaz: The reason that Achebe was denied the Nobel prize is because he exposed the actrocities the committed by the Western nations when they invaded Africa and suppressed our culture and values. To win the Nobel prize, you need to add lick the Western nations. That is why great authors from China and Russia are always denied the award while inferior writers from Europe and American get it. Achebe is like Okocha who never won a major trophy but his talents speaks for him. That is why his master class, Things fall Apart has been translated to over 50 languages across the world. Soyinka is like Mikel Obi who has the highest trophies in their processions but less talented. Hence they have no masterclass. Hence Soyinka books are flops in the literally market. His best book, the Jero play , is an unknown book in the literally world. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 7:57am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gajagojo: Stop playing the Ostrich and smell the coffee. Soyinka is a playwright just like Shakespeare. Soyinka books flopped in the literally market while Shakespeare books are the bestsellers even after his demise. Remember that Shakespeare used the most complicated English in his books yet people still purchase and read them. Hence your argument that Soyinka flopped because his book is advance does not hold water. He flopped because his books were inferior to that of his contemporaries. Achebe is a master in his own area of literature. His work can compete with any author in the world. That is the reason he was regarded as the father of African literature. He is our Okocha whose talent can compete with that of Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane even though he won no trophy. Soyinka is our Mikel Obi who even with their trophies are inferior to the household names in their profession. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Nobody: 7:58am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: This is from your imagination. Alfred Nobel is a great thinker. The board at Stockholm in Sweden and those located in other places have their reasons. Deep thinking, ingenuity & Courage are not based on competition. Soyinka never said he won the Nobel because he was the best as at that time. There were literary giants in Ghana, Zambia and all over the world. They celebrated Soyinka during this period. In Nigeria, IBOs in academics and elites in other endeavour chose this period to fight Soyinka because of the award. WHY? That is bitterness and hatred. IBB is still alive he was the President during this period. 4 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Ferdinandu(m): 7:59am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Legitisreal:It is only an ignorants like you that doesn't know what true development is. Scrapping few roads here and there and pouring asphalt on it, building white elephant projects to retire public funds is not development. This is what the Notherners has been doing since independence they were ruling Nigeria without developing their people and reason the Northern population still lags behind in all indices of Human capital development after been in power for long. Ebonyi state has the lowest indices in human capital development in Igboland dragging illiteracy with North reason any Igbo man you see hawking things on the whole city in Nigeria and doing the most menial jobs are mostly Ebonyians. What has Umahi done to ensure in the next 15 to 20 years this story will change, nothing except doing white elephant projects to retire public money to himself, family and friends while poverty spreads among the masses. Come let me educate you what real development is |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by salih74(m): 8:12am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Hedonini:Yes Daddy |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by hush15: 8:20am On Apr 09, 2023 |
LegendHero: Any small talk, them don relate am to tribalism. Are Nigerians this foolish? Always tribalising issues... na tribal curse them use swear for this people... |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Zorn: 8:20am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Legitisreal:Are you alright? Achebe is dead and Soyinka will one day die, does that imply the entire Yoruba and igbo race will die ? How irrational of you to imply that the comparison of soyinka and Achebe is invoking a tribal war between Yoruba and igbo .Aint you sick? |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by juman(m): 8:21am On Apr 09, 2023 |
The only nobel laureate in nigeria. Population of 220 millions people. That is great height. Ijebu people. Special breed of people. Anthony joshua is also ijebu. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by okuta007: 8:22am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Femmyfamous4u: All thanks to Tinubu ….. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MeaslesMumpsRub: 8:34am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Hedonini: 380 igbo obidients like this gibberish you just spewed. It is safe to assume tha the level of IQ in Nigeria is at an alarming low especially those from the SE. WS is greater than all the artist of Igbo extraction. Achebe died of envy, You all will also die of envy on the South East. Wayfaring bastards!!! 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MeaslesMumpsRub: 8:37am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Envy will be the death of Biafrans and Igbos. Yoruba is greater than igbo in all aspects of life. 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by ogelekpomgam(m): 8:43am On Apr 09, 2023 |
LegendHero:Founder of a cult group that led to birth of other cult groups,causing damage on our youths.Anuohia!!!! |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 8:44am On Apr 09, 2023 |
You just typed the wrong thing above. Prof Wole Soyinka is the best. Achebe focused majorly only on books/novel while Nobel laurel PROF Wole Soyinka focused on everything about literature- poems, script writing,plays, poetry, novels, essay, research, introduction of new words in the English dictionary and world encyclopedia. He is the best playwright in the world till date. Cyprain Ekwensi and Elechi Amadi are even better than Achebe. If you doubt me go and read Elechi Amadi’s The concubine and compare it with any of Achebe’s books. Only Things fall apart came close. Prof Soyinka wrote many books than all of them which includes The trials of brother Jero. Ibadan: The penkelemes. The lion and the jewel. The interpreters….written in 1965. Ake. Death and the king’s horseman The man died: prison notes from Wole Soyinka. The road. Idanre and other poems. Mandela’s earth and other poems Ogun Abibímàn. Madmen and his specialists. Chronicles from the land of the happiest people. You must set forth at dawn. Of Africa King Baabu Collected plays by Soyinka. Season of anomy. Written from prison. The open sore of a continent. Samarkand and other markets. The strong breed. Selected poems. Child internationale Climate of fear The credo of being and nothingness. Cam wood on the leaves. From Zia with love. The swamp dwellers Alàpàta Apáta. The beautification of the area boy. Forest of a thousand daemons: A Hunter's Saga · Yoruba title: Ògbójú ọdẹ nínu igbó irúnmọlẹ Written by D.O Fagunwa translated by Wole Soyinka. The Burden of Memory, the Muse of Forgiveness. Art, dialogue and outrage. And so many more books were written by him. His books were used to set literature in English exam questions even in Cambridge A and O levels exams He covers all aspects of literature unlike Achebe. He is just the best. Obidients and Charly boy has forgotten so soon that this great Yoruba man- prof Soyinka fought for Igbos: He wrote a good deal of Poems from Prison while he was jailed in 1967–69 for speaking out against the war brought on by the attempted secession of Biafra from Nigeria. The Man Died (1972) is his prose account of his arrest and 22-month imprisonment by Gowon for fighting for igbos. He deserves more accolades and respect. An 88 years old still vibrant and healthy. A great mentor, erudite scholar and philanthropist We don’t even have any Nobel prize winner in Nigeria except him till date. 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 8:48am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: You just typed the wrong thing above. Prof Wole Soyinka is the best. Achebe focused majorly only on books/novel while Nobel laurel PROF Wole Soyinka focused on everything about literature- poems, script writing,plays, poetry, novels, essay, research, introduction of new words in the English dictionary and world encyclopedia. He is the best playwright in the world till date. Cyprain Ekwensi and Elechi Amadi are even better than Achebe. If you doubt me go and read Elechi Amadi’s The concubine and compare it with any of Achebe’s books. Only Things fall apart came close. Prof Soyinka wrote many books than all of them which includes The trials of brother Jero. Ibadan: The penkelemes. The lion and the jewel. The interpreters….written in 1965. Ake. Death and the king’s horseman The man died: prison notes from Wole Soyinka. The road. Idanre and other poems. Mandela’s earth and other poems Ogun Abibímàn. Madmen and his specialists. Chronicles from the land of the happiest people. You must set forth at dawn. Of Africa King Baabu Collected plays by Soyinka. Season of anomy. Written from prison. The open sore of a continent. Samarkand and other markets. The strong breed. Selected poems. Child internationale Climate of fear The credo of being and nothingness. Cam wood on the leaves. From Zia with love. The swamp dwellers Alàpàta Apáta. The beautification of the area boy. Forest of a thousand daemons: A Hunter's Saga · Yoruba title: Ògbójú ọdẹ nínu igbó irúnmọlẹ Written by D.O Fagunwa translated by Wole Soyinka. The Burden of Memory, the Muse of Forgiveness. Art, dialogue and outrage. And so many more books were written by him. His books were used to set literature in English exam questions even in Cambridge A and O levels exams He covers all aspects of literature unlike Achebe. He is just the best. Obidients and Charly boy has forgotten so soon that this great Yoruba man- prof Soyinka fought for Igbos: He wrote a good deal of Poems from Prison while he was jailed in 1967–69 for speaking out against the war brought on by the attempted secession of Biafra from Nigeria. The Man Died (1972) is his prose account of his arrest and 22-month imprisonment by Gowon for fighting for igbos. He deserves more accolades and respect. An 88 years old still vibrant and healthy. A great mentor, erudite scholar and philanthropist We don’t even have any Nobel prize winner in Nigeria except him till date |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Jostoman: 8:51am On Apr 09, 2023 |
oyin44:dont blame government,its never too late |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Enemyofpeace: 8:53am On Apr 09, 2023 |
HayB100:no mind am. Let him be comparing Soyinka with Okuta 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Enemyofpeace: 8:54am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica:wehdone o, omo ibo |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 8:59am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Professor Wole Soyinka is the best
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