adetayoonas:



You just typed the wrong thing above.
Prof Wole Soyinka is the best.
Achebe focused majorly only on books/novel while Nobel laurel PROF Wole Soyinka focused on everything about literature- poems, script writing,plays, poetry, novels, essay, research, introduction of new words in the English dictionary and world encyclopedia. He is the best playwright in the world till date.
Cyprain Ekwensi and Elechi Amadi are even better than Achebe. If you doubt me go and read Elechi Amadi’s The concubine and compare it with any of Achebe’s books. Only Things fall apart came close.

Prof Soyinka wrote many books than all of them which includes
The trials of brother Jero.
Ibadan: The penkelemes.
The lion and the jewel.
The interpreters….written in 1965.
Ake.
Death and the king’s horseman
The man died: prison notes from Wole Soyinka.
The road.
Idanre and other poems.
Mandela’s earth and other poems
Ogun Abibímàn.
Madmen and his specialists.
Chronicles from the land of the happiest people.
You must set forth at dawn.
Of Africa
King Baabu
Collected plays by Soyinka.
Season of anomy. Written from prison.
The open sore of a continent.
Samarkand and other markets.
The strong breed.
Selected poems.
Child internationale
Climate of fear
The credo of being and nothingness.
Cam wood on the leaves.
From Zia with love.
The swamp dwellers
Alàpàta Apáta.
The beautification of the area boy.
Forest of a thousand daemons: A Hunter's Saga · Yoruba title: Ògbójú ọdẹ nínu igbó irúnmọlẹ Written by D.O Fagunwa translated by Wole Soyinka.
The Burden of Memory, the Muse of Forgiveness.
Art, dialogue and outrage.

And so many more books were written by him.

His books were used to set literature in English exam questions even in Cambridge A and O levels exams

He covers all aspects of literature unlike Achebe.
He is just the best.
Obidients and Charly boy has forgotten so soon that this great Yoruba man- prof Soyinka fought for Igbos: He wrote a good deal of Poems from Prison while he was jailed in 1967–69 for speaking out against the war brought on by the attempted secession of Biafra from Nigeria. The Man Died (1972) is his prose account of his arrest and 22-month imprisonment by Gowon for fighting for igbos.

He deserves more accolades and respect. An 88 years old still vibrant and healthy. A great mentor, erudite scholar and philanthropist


We don’t even have any Nobel prize winner in Nigeria except him till date

The greatest playwright of all times, William Shakespeare must be turning in his grave after reading what you wrote above.

Soyinka was never rated as the best playwright in Africa at any time. He was never rated as the best novelist or poet in Africa at any time.

You claimed Achebe is strictly a novelist that wrote no poetry . That is lie from the pit of hell.

Achebe won the Commonwealth poetry award in 1972 as the best poet from English speaking countries. The award was given to for his poetry work " Soul Brothers".

He wrote other poetry books such as
1. Soul Brothers ( 1972)
2. Christmas in Biafra ( 1973)
3. Another Africa ( 1997)
4. Collected Poems ( 2002)

He is not the father of African novels but the father of African literature. Soyinka is one of the kids that learned from him.

Soyinka was given the Nobel prize in 1986 but those that have him the award could not point to any of his books that won him the award.

The bitter truth is that the award was meant for Achebe for his masterclass, Things fall Apart, but it was given to Soyinka to punish Achebe for exposing the actrocities committed by the Western nations in Africa.

Obasanjo had a similar experience. He was meant to be the UN secretary General in the early 90s but the position was taken from him at the eleventh hour and given to an Egyptian.

The reason been that Obasanjo spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

greypencils:
The Nobel Prize is far above and beyond that one book and its 'million' translations.

The Nobel prize of football are the World cup trophy and Champion league trophy.

So you mean that because Mikel Obi won one of them, he is far above Jay Jay Okocha as a talented midfielder?

Vinnie2000:

*Derailing of Trains
*Owo Massacre of Christians
*Deborah Samuel's painful murder
*ASUU Eight months Strike
*Naira Redesign wahala
*Fake Bishops
*MC Oluomo's threats to Igbos
*Presidential Election
*Governorship Election

Wole Soyinka KEPT MUTE in ALL these grave Issues ravaging Nigeria, :-

Only to wake up and Focus his energy on Datti/LP/.

Is this NOT madness, Honestly? 😕

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and tribal sentiment didn’t allow you to mention an innocent Hausa pregnant woman and her children killed by ipob

Kukutenla:

Quote the part of the constitution that says a gov should swear allegiance to his people.
The people in a state are made up of both indigenes and non- indigenes. That's why it's residents of a state that votes as long as they are citizens of Nigeria even if they are not indigenes while only citizens can vote for the president.
If Elrufai lives in Anambra, he can vote for who becomes gov there.
When Tinubu was sponsoring Ngige for senate in Anambra you didn't remind him that's not his state.
Oga you na hypocrite

Check out the image below.

All because he never supported your sick candidate? Sense far from this man. U guys are just tribal bigot!!!!!

MikeofAfrica:


Okocha not good enough for the Champions league trophy but better than Mikel Obi that won it.

OMATA boys are illiterates then cannot communicate without beer parlour proverbs
Why not use ogbono and okro to make your point?
You did not go to school so you cannot communicate in simple English
Achieve nothing enough for Nobel prize
Let us see if you have any Nkwobi and is ewu proverbs

MikeofAfrica:


Okocha not good enough for the Champions league trophy but better than Mikel Obi that won it.

OMATA boys are illiterates then cannot communicate without beer parlour proverbs
Why not use ogbono and okro to make your point?
You did not go to school so you cannot communicate in simple English
Achieve nothing enough for Nobel prize
Let us see if you have any Nkwobi and is ewu proverbs

Shakespeare did not write novels
You are uneducated and have no understanding of literature that is why you are bringing up silly proverbs
Please be silent

MikeofAfrica:


A company can produce different items but if none of her products is a brand, that company can not be describe as a success story.
Toyota is a brand in the automobile industry. Innoson is not yet a brand hence even if the company produces ten different kinds of vehicles , a single kind of vehicle from Toyota will be rated above them.

From your list, can you pick out just two books from each of the categories that is a brand in the world of literature. Which of the plays from Soyinka can you compare with a play by Shakespeare who is a playwright. Which of Soyinka novel can compete with Achebe novels.

Ekwensi also wrote many books in different categories but his books were inferiors like that of Soyinka.

Hence with due respect, Soyinka and Ekwensi are at the same level in the literary world.

An olodo like you might have illiterate wishes but the experts have given Soyinka the apex laurel as the best in Africa and one of the best in the world.
Achebe and his ilk can only lament.

Putinofrussia:

An olodo like you might have illiterate wishes but the experts have given Soyinka the apex laurel as the best in Africa and one of the best in the world.
Achebe and his ilk can only lament.

The problem with people like you is inferiority complex. You ass lick the white men hence any award from the white man's land is immaculate and the highest in the world.

Hence since I don't ass lick the whites, you see me as an olodo. That is the mentality of an average African man. I have teach in a high school in West London yet someone who has not step his foot outside Nigeria regard me as an illiterate .

In the early 90s , Obasanjo technically won the position of the UN secretary General. However Britian stood against his nomination and ensure he loss the seat to another African contender from Egypt.

Their reason was that Obasanjo spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

When you read Achebe's book , you will understand why he never won the Nobel Prize. He narrated through his story how the whites that came to Africa, exploited our people and took advantage of us.

Any Author that wrote such book can never win the Nobel Prize. The forces that stopped OBJ from becoming the UN secretary General will ensure that did not happen.

Hence go to sleep. The politics of the Nobel Prize is beyond you.

MikeofAfrica:


The Nobel prize of football are the World cup trophy and Champion league trophy.

So you mean that because Mikel Obi won one of them, he is far above Jay Jay Okocha as a talented midfielder?

And you are equating individual intellectual endeavours to a team sport? I can see you feel like wasting your time by arguing with me. Have a nice life.

If you people have sense, a selfless icon like Wole Soyinka should be your best friend, not an unstable nonentity like Obadanjo.

I’m confident that there will never be another fellow from that part of the country that will gain a similar traction peter Obi (an illiterate with an iweka accent) experienced during the presidential campaign.

Gajagojo:

OMATA boys are illiterates then cannot communicate without beer parlour proverbs
Why not use ogbono and okro to make your point?
You did not go to school so you cannot communicate in simple English
Achieve nothing enough for Nobel prize
Let us see if you have any Nkwobi and is ewu proverbs

Shakespeare did not write novels
You are uneducated and have no understanding of literature that is why you are bringing up silly proverbs
Please be silent

Someone with a degree from a University in Nigeria is calling Someone with a Masters in Engineering from Middlesex University an illiterate.

This is what Nigeria has turn into. Hence the debate that Soyinka is a better writer than Achebe.

I am not into literature but I have written three children books because of my love for writing. Hence even though I am not a guru in the field of literature, I have more knowledge of the field than most of you .

I have explain how Soyinka got the Nobel Prize in 1986. The award was suppose to be won by Achebe but the Western powers stood against him because he exposed their actrocities in Africa in his books and some some speeches he delivered across the world.

When the Nigerian government became aware of this situation, IBB lobbied the Swedish Government using then foreign minister, Emeka Anyaoku, to ensure Nigeria did not loss the award.

Hence another candidate was considered from Nigeria which is Soyinka.

The same scenario played out few years later. OBJ was nominated for the UN secretary position but the same Western powers that denied Achebe the Nobel prize kicked against it. Their reason was that OBJ was against the apartheid regime in South Africa.

Hence like Achebe, OBJ lost the seat to an Egyptian.

MikeofAfrica:


The problem with people like you is inferiority complex. You ass lick the white men hence any award from the white man's land is immaculate and the highest in the world.

Hence since I don't ass lick the whites, you see me as an olodo. That is the mentality of an average African man. I have teach in a high school in West London yet someone who has not step his foot outside Nigeria regard me as an illiterate .

In the early 90s , Obasanjo technically won the position of the UN secretary General. However Britian stood against his nomination and ensure he loss the seat to another African contender from Egypt.

Their reason was that Obasanjo spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

When you read Achebe's book , you will understand why he never won the Nobel Prize. He narrated through his story how the whites that came to Africa, exploited our people and took advantage of us.

Any Author that wrote such book can never win the Nobel Prize. The forces that stopped OBJ from becoming the UN secretary General will ensure that did not happen.

Hence go to sleep. The politics of the Nobel Prize is beyond you.

Thought you were a drifting olodo,I didnt know you are a 'conc' one.Yepa!!
Oya,correct this your written words if you want them to consider you coming to learn in that West London school.
You sure went to evening traders' lesson.



Hence since I don't ass lick the whites, you see me as an olodo. That is the mentality of an average African man. I have teach in a high school in West London yet someone who has not step his foot outside Nigeria regard me as an illiterate .

In the early 90s , Obasanjo technically won the position of the UN secretary General. However Britian stood against his nomination and ensure he loss the seat to another African contender from Egypt.

Their reason was that Obasanjo spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

MikeofAfrica:


Someone with a degree from a University in Nigeria is calling Someone with a Masters in Engineering from Middlesex University an illiterate.

This is what Nigeria has turn into. Hence the debate that Soyinka is a better writer than Achebe.

I am not into literature but I have written three children books because of my love for writing. Hence even though I am not a guru in the field of literature, I have more knowledge of the field than most of you .

I have explain how Soyinka got the Nobel Prize in 1986. The award was suppose to be won by Achebe but the Western powers stood against him because he exposed their actrocities in Africa in his books and some some speeches he delivered across the world.

When the Nigerian government became aware of this situation, IBB lobbied the Swedish Government using then foreign minister, Emeka Anyaoku, to ensure Nigeria did not loss the award.

Hence another candidate was considered from Nigeria which is Soyinka.

The same scenario played out few years later. OBJ was nominated for the UN secretary position but the same Western powers that denied Achebe the Nobel prize kicked against it. Their reason was that OBJ was against the apartheid regime in South Africa.

Hence like Achebe, OBJ lost the seat to an Egyptian.

The internet is an anonymous forum
You lack wisdom.
I do not believe you completed secondary school
You are weak that is why you need to wax biographical.
I have no interest in your life story. You are weak. You feel small and feel a need to compensate by telling us how you invented the internet. I don't give a Bleep about you. Not interested
Did I tell you I have a degree
Middlesex university is not one anyone would boast about.

Any fool can claim to have gone to any university.

But at any rate degrees from wherever do not change your brain
A simian brain is a simian brain and degrees do no increase cerebral gyri
Speak to the issues and spare us the vainglorious biography. You have an inferiority complex that is why you need to tell us what degrees you have. Coupled with your ideas that a foreign degree makes you better than a person with a degree from a Nigerian university or even a person with NO DEGREE. Obviously you did not learn how to THINK.
Degrees do not mean anything except to those who seek to be employees often of those with NO DEGREE

Leave All that nonsense aside . Bury your ego.
You are not the subject of discussion

Achiebe life ambition is to become what Soyinka is before death took him without achieving his life dream.
What's wrong with this chest beaters?

MikeofAfrica:

The award was suppose to be won by Achebe but the [b]Western powers [/b]stood against him because he exposed their actrocities in Africa in his books and some some speeches he delivered across the world.

The Alfred Nobel foundation is an independent and apolitical organisation (though seemingly left leaning), what Western powers are you referring to?

Thankfully, Europe isn't like Naija where governments can interfere in what private organisations do.

Neither Norway nor Sweden had colonies in Africa so why would they be bothered about someone exposing European atrocities in Africa that they were not part of.

You really think Western governments have so little to do that they will be meeting about blocking someone from getting the Nobel literature prize.

Wetin person no go read for dis Nairaland.

Gajagojo:


The internet is an anonymous forum
You lack wisdom.
I do not believe you completed secondary school
You are weak that is why you need to wax biographical.
I have no interest in your life story. You are weak. You feel small and feel a need to compensate by telling us how you invented the internet. I don't give a Bleep about you. Not interested
Did I tell you I have a degree
Middlesex university is not one anyone would boast about.

Any fool can claim to have gone to any university.

But at any rate degrees from wherever do not change your brain
A simian brain is a simian brain and degrees do no increase cerebral gyri
Speak to the issues and spare us the vainglorious biography. You have an inferiority complex that is why you need to tell us what degrees you have. Coupled with your ideas that a foreign degree makes you better than a person with a degree from a Nigerian university or even a person with NO DEGREE. Obviously you did not learn how to THINK.
Degrees do not mean anything except to those who seek to be employees often of those with NO DEGREE

Leave All that nonsense aside . Bury your ego.
You are not the subject of discussion

You are the one who feels intimidated by my comments hence reacted by calling me names even when I never insulted you.

Hence to worsen your situation, I decided to tell you a little about myself.

The man you are defending , Professor Soyinka, knows me very well. Unfortunately, I never met Chinua Achebe before his death.

I confided in you that the Nobel Prize in literature is not a yardstick for knowing the best authors because iconic writers that wrote against apartheid and colonialism in Africa and Asia were denied the award. Iconic writers from Russia were also denied the award.

Hence as Africans, we should not underate any iconic author that did not win the Nobel Prize because he/ she wrote against the Western powers that colonized Africa. That is why the association of African writers crowned Achebe the father of African literature after he was denied the Nobel prize.

If you analyze my comments and yours, you will agree with me that you are actually the one suffering from the inferiority complex that you accused me. You believe any award from the white man is immaculate while those from Africa are inferior.

Mainwhile, the last winner of the Nobel Prize in literature is Mrs. Annie Ernaux. She has no popular novel, poetry,play or drama book. She was awarded the award for writing her autobiography.

Unless you are naive, you should know that the French government brought the award for her.

That is the award you are singing about as immaculate because our own Soyinka won it in 1986. If you have the money and connections, you can win the next Nobel Prize in literature. If you can't write your autobiography, someone will do it for you.

Hence go to sleep and stop disturbing me with your inferiority complex.

MikeofAfrica:


You are the one who feels intimidated by my comments hence reacted by calling me names even when I never insulted you.

Hence to worsen your situation, I decided to tell you a little about myself.

The man you are defending , Professor Soyinka, knows me very well. Unfortunately, I never met Chinua Achebe before his death.

I confided in you that the Nobel Prize in literature is not a yardstick for knowing the best authors because iconic writers that wrote against apartheid and colonialism in Africa and Asia were denied the award. Iconic writers from Russia were also denied the award.

Hence as Africans, we should not underate any iconic author that did not win the Nobel Prize because he/ she wrote against the Western powers that colonized Africa. That is why the association of African writers crowned Achebe the father of African literature after he was denied the Nobel prize.

If you analyze my comments and yours, you will agree with me that you are actually the one suffering from the inferiority complex that you accused me. You believe any award from the white man is immaculate while those from Africa are inferior.

Mainwhile, the last winner of the Nobel Prize in literature is Mrs. Annie Ernaux. She has no popular novel, poetry,play or drama book. She was awarded the award for writing her autobiography.

Unless you are naive, you should know that the French government brought the award for her.

That is the award you are singing about as immaculate because our own Soyinka won it in 1986. If you have the money and connections, you can win the next Nobel Prize in literature. If you can't write your autobiography, someone will do it for you.

Hence go to sleep and stop disturbing me with your inferiority complex.

Too long I promise you I didn't read it
You are empty
Only a psychologically weak person goes to an anonymous forum to boast
The moment you start you have to finish
When they say you did not wipe your yansh . You do not go around showing everyone to prove you did
You lack wisdom
As far as I am concerned you did not complete secondary school

MikeofAfrica:


The problem with people like you is inferiority complex. You ass lick the white men hence any award from the white man's land is immaculate and the highest in the world.

Hence since I don't ass lick the whites, you see me as an olodo. That is the mentality of an average African man. I have teach in a high school in West London yet someone who has not step his foot outside Nigeria regard me as an illiterate .

In the early 90s , Obasanjo technically won the position of the UN secretary General. However Britian stood against his nomination and ensure he loss the seat to another African contender from Egypt.

Their reason was that Obasanjo spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

When you read Achebe's book , you will understand why he never won the Nobel Prize. He narrated through his story how the whites that came to Africa, exploited our people and took advantage of us.

Any Author that wrote such book can never win the Nobel Prize. The forces that stopped OBJ from becoming the UN secretary General will ensure that did not happen.

Hence go to sleep. The politics of the Nobel Prize is beyond you.

One of the dumbest things I have ever read on Nairaland.

Guestlander:


One of the dumbest things I have ever read on Nairaland.

The funny thing I is I am sure he believes it

aswani:


The Alfred Nobel foundation is an independent and apolitical organisation (though seemingly left leaning), what Western powers are you referring to?

Thankfully, Europe isn't like Naija where governments can interfere in what private organisations do.

Neither Norway nor Sweden had colonies in Africa so why would they be bothered about someone exposing European atrocities in Africa that they were not part of.

You really think Western governments have so little to do that they will be meeting about blocking someone from getting the Nobel literature prize.

Wetin person no go read for dis Nairaland.

I appreciate the contributions of naive people like you.

Anyone with sound knowledge of World politics will not write what you have just wrote.

Do you sincerely believe that Norway or Sweden can grant an international award to an individual after receiving a letter from either the Embassy of the United States, Britian or France demanding the cancelation of the award.

The Government of these world powers do not have time for such frivolities but they have departments in their embassies that take care of such issues.

These departments ensure that anyone that has made comments or written books against the interest of their nation are checkmated from holding international sensitive positions or receiving prestigious awards that will make such person a global icon.

Stop glorifying the Western nations. They are more corrupt than most African nations. The only difference is that they are organize and does not wash their dirty linen in the public.

Obasanjo learnt this lesson. Britian bribed many African nations to drop their support for Obasanjo when he was backed by the African union for the UN secretary General seat.

Do you know how many African nations that America bribed to stop Akinwummi Adeshina from returning as AFDB President. They wanted an incompetent person from a weak nation as the president of the bank so that they can easily manipulate us. However the Nigerian government has learn how to checkmate this foreign Hawks.

Gajagojo:

Too long I promise you I didn't read it
You are empty
Only a psychologically weak person goes to an anonymous forum to boast
The moment you start you have to finish
When they say you did not wipe your yansh . You do not go around showing everyone to prove you did
You lack wisdom
As far as I am concerned you did not complete secondary school

You mean that someone who did not finish secondary school gave you such a tough time in a public forum that you began to rain insults.

BTW, incase you have at least five million dollars in your account and wants to win the next Nobel Prize in literature, here is some advice.

Get an English lecturer to write your autobiography. Then make contacts with Soyinka. He will link you to the organizers of the award. As long as you do not have issues with America, Britian or France, you will receive the award.

Annie Ernaux just won a Nobel Prize for writing series of her autobiography. You can also do it.

Guestlander:


One of the dumbest things I have ever read on Nairaland.

The truth is bitter hence people who hates the truth refer to it as the dumbest thing they have heard.

Femmyfamous4u:
Everything must have ethnic colouration.

That is their regular trade mark.

They love been in rivalry with the most sophisticated...

MikeofAfrica:


You mean that someone who did not finish secondary school gave you such a tough time in a public forum that you began to rain insults.

BTW, incase you have at least five million dollars in your account and wants to win the next Nobel Prize in literature, here is some advice.

Get an English lecturer to write your autobiography. Then make contacts with Soyinka. He will link you to the organizers of the award. As long as you do not have issues with America, Britian or France, you will receive the award.

Annie Ernaux just won a Nobel Prize for writing series of her autobiography. You can also do it.

Can you get over yourself.
You are an irrelevance to me. Not interested

Let us stick to the topic of the thread.
Achebe was not good enough period

MikeofAfrica:


The truth is bitter hence people who hates the truth refer to it as the dumbest thing they have heard.

You are not a very informed individual and it shows in your post. It is what it is. Dumb.

Gajagojo:

Can you get over yourself.
You are an irrelevance to me. Not interested

Let us stick to the topic of the thread.
Achebe was not good enough period

I agree with you. Achebe was not good enough but a French woman was good enough after writing her autobiography.

I hope you are happy now . Run around and go to bed.

MikeofAfrica:


I agree with you. Achebe was not good enough but a French woman was good enough after writing her autobiography.

I hope you are happy now . Run around and go to bed.

Run around? Is that from Middlesex?

Guestlander:


You are not a very informed individual and it shows in your post. It is what it is. Dumb.

I agree with you. Achebe was not good enough to win the Noble prize after writing iconic novels and poetry works.

However, a French woman , Annie Ernaux was good enough after writing her autobiography.

Hence I am dumb for claiming Achebe deserved more than the Nobel Prize in literature.

I hope you are happy now. Run around with your toys and go to bed.

Gajagojo:

Run around? Is that from Middlesex?

You have to run around before going to bed because you behaved like a kid by throwing insults at me when you realised that I have a superior argument.

Hence remember to run around your bedroom before sleeping tonight. It will make you feel better tomorrow.

Ojukwubucket:


The Igbo have always dusted you in everything despite all the advantages you have over them.
You first had contact with the whites long before Igbos did..
You have had Lagos as the capital of Nigeria which attracted both government and private investments..No Igbo state have ever had that..
Igbos fought the civil war and lost everything, literally starting from the scratch..
Lagos today is the center of commerce and investment which have attracted both locals and foreigners. You enjoy indigenous consideration first in employment before any others which allows you guys to occupy top posts in almost all companies.
You have had both military and civilian presidents for mores years than the Igbos..
But in all these advantages and luck you have had, the Igbos have gone toe to toe with you guys more than any other tribe in Nigeria. Reason why you hate and envy us so much..

On a level playing ground, u know the Igbo will dust your asz hands down..
I say this with all confidence

Are you sure or you are just chest-beating...the only sector your people dominate use to be Nollywood now Asaba movie can't even compete in this era of Cinema and Streaming movie.


Yeye dey smell!