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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:01am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:1. It wasn't mentioned anywhere in the bible that Yahweh warned the whole world 2. Can 2 men chop up and carry large trees? How did Noah get all they animals in the world, from polar bears, T-rexes, mammoths etc? 3 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:05am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:1. Moses saw only the feet? Is it possible to see only a man's feet and not the rest of the body? If you see a person, which part of the body do you get attracted to? How can people dine with someone's feet? Really? 2. He revealed himself without showing his face? Which part did he reveal? 3. You're the dishonest one here. Lemme repeat. Jacob saw the face of Yahweh. How come he survived? You didn't answer this 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:09am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Again you dodged the elephant in the room. Go back to my post and reread it. Is that your answer sufficient for it? 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:14am On Apr 23, 2023 |
Lemme repeat my question. Please answer 1. Who created the concept of death for sin? Yahweh. Is it possible for him to forgive as an omnibenevolent god? Yes. There you go! A god that does not want to forgive the sin of his creations but instead imposes the law that they die or he kills his own son to appease himself for their sins. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS NOT OMBIBENEVOLENT? 2. There is further indictment for Yahweh. He purportedly created humans and the earth, including evil too , so why is he angry at the outcome of his creations? Besides he is omniscient so knows how Lucifer would deceive and con Adam via the tree of knowledge, yet he went ahead to create both Lucifer and the tree(he even gave the tree luscious fruits and kept it in the middle of the Garden where Adam and Eve would be able to admire it) and got angry when the inevitable happened. 3. You seem not to understand the plot. Yahweh knew all along that man would sin again after even after he destroys us with the flood. So why kill everyone in the first place? Why not kill his son first ab initio instead of the flood, since he is so bloodthirsty 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by advocatejare(m): 11:18am On Apr 23, 2023 |
AntiChristian:AntiChristian you don’t need to hide under another person’s posts. Create your own thread and let’s thrash it out. Meanwhile don’t gloat too much, if I were you I would be more concerned about your Quran that all of you claim to be the undiluted words of Allah and yet it is full of contradictions “Do they not ponder over the Qur’an? Had it been from other than Allah, surely they would have found many contradictions in it.” -Quran 4:82 Allah challenged us to look for contradictions in the Quran, that if the Quran were to be from other than Allah, there will be many contradictions in it “Do they not ponder over the Qur’an? Had it been from other than Allah, surely they would have found many contradictions in it. -Quran 4:82 -Quran 4:82 Let's examine the Quran [b]30 months: "We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents: In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, “O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam.” – Quran 46:15 85 How many months is for child’s breastfeeding? 24 months: "And We have enjoined upon man concerning his partners – His mother beareth him in weakness upon weakness, and his weaning is in two years – Give thanks unto Me and unto thy parents. Unto Me is the journeying" – Quran 31:14 Did he create the heaven or the Earth first? The earth: “He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things.” – Quran 2:29 The heaven: “Are ye the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; And He made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morn thereof. And after that He spread the earth. He extracted from it its water and its pasture, And the mountains He set firmly as provision for you and your grazing livestock.” – Quran 79:27-33 Does Allah forgive everything? Yes: Say: “O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins : for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. – Quran 39:53 No: ‘Allah forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away’ – Quran 4:116 No: ‘Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. – Quran 4:48 Where do disbelievers receive their record book on Judgment day? On their back ‘But he who is given his Record behind his back” – Quran 84:10 On the left hand “And he that will be given his Record in his left hand, will say: “Ah! Would that my Record had not been given to me! – Quran 69:25 Could someone bear another's burden? No: “Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger.” -Quran 17:15 Yes: “ Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!” Is the Quran clear? Yes: (This is) a Book, whose verses are made decisive, then are they made plain, from the Wise, All-aware: Quran 11:1 No as the following sentences are meaningless in the Quran: [b]Kaf Ha Yan 'Ayn Sad (Quran 19:1) Ta Ha (Quran 20:1) Ta Seen Meem (Quran 26:1) Ta Seen (Quran 27:1) Ta Seen Meem (Quran 28:1) Who brought revelation to Muhammad? The Holy Spirit: Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims Quran 16:102 Angel Jibreel Say (O Muhammad, to mankind): Who is an enemy to Gabriel! For he it is who hath revealed (this Scripture) to thy heart by Allah's leave, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, and a guidance and glad tidings to believers; Quran 2:97 Did Noah's son survive the great flood? Yes: (Remember) Noah, when he cried (to Us) aforetime: We listened to his (prayer) and delivered him and his family from great distress. Quran 21:76 Yes And We made his offspring the survivors. Quran 37:77 No: The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood. Quran 11:43 Is Allah the only protector? Yes: "Ye have not, beside Him, a protecting friend or mediator. Will ye not then remember?" Quran 32:4 No: "Your guardian can be only Allah; and His messenger and those who believe, who establish worship and pay the poordue, and bow down (in prayer)." Quran 5:55 Is it possible to have a son without a consort? Yes: "She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed." Qur'an 19:20-21 No: "To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things." Quran 6:101 Does Allah speak directly with people? No: It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, Quran 42:51 Yes, to Moses: "Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Moses Allah spoke direct" Quran 4:164 |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:20am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Lol. You still dont understand. IF YAHWEH KNOWS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE UP THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD MAKE HEAVEN, WHAT'S THE USE OF GIVING US FREE WILL? 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:21am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You did not read in the bible where yahweh was astonished at man's wickedness? Really? 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:34am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Bro, the study of spontaneous remissions in carcinomas has been ongoing for decades. Many physicians worldwide have observed it and there are many well documented cases. It has absolutely no relationship with any religion, race or regions. And definitely not caused by Yahweh. Like I said twice before, there are many things we don't understand about cancers which come to light daily. I'll post some links about reported cases here. This is from an Oncology journal https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.annalsofoncology.org/article/S0923-7534(19)63993-1/pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjGycat5L_-AhWNxQIHHTLgCGcQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Ab6t0_He-TofYi8RSWUzo The pdf reads… Spontaneous remission of cancer (SR) is defined as a complete or partial, temporary or permanent disappearance of all or at least some relevant parameters of a soundly diagnosed malig- nant disease without any medical treatment or with treatment that is considered inadequate to produce the resulting regres- sion. We report the case of a 61-year-old man who presented with extensive metatastic disease five months after pneumo- nectomy for poorly differentiated large cell and polymorphic lung cancer. A vast metastatic tumour mass of the abdominal wall was confirmed histolologically and there was clinical and radiographic evidence of liver and lung metastases. Eight months later, the patient was operated on for a hernia, which had developed in the inguinal biopsy scar and the surgeon confirmed complete clinical SR of the abdominal wall metas- tases. Again five months later there was no longer any radio- logic evidence of liver and lung metastases. Complete remis- sion has persisted more than five years. Histology of the primary and of the abdominal metastases were reviewed by several independent pathologists. SR is an extremly rare event in lung cancer. This is the first documented case of clinically evident visceral metastases of a bronchiogenic adenocarci- noma developing after complete resection of the primary and then showing complete SR. The epidemiology of SR is reviewed and possible mechanisms involved in SR are dis- cussed. This is another instances https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9402178/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353036355_The_spontaneous_remission_of_cancer_Current_insights_and_therapeutic_significance https://www.curetoday.com/view/inflammatory-biomarkers-from-lung-cancer-depression-may-predict-survival-outcomes https://bmcpulmmed.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12890-019-0978-4 All the above from scientific Journals, not hearsays My point is spontaneous remissions occur whether people pray to your Yahweh or not. Get that 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:35am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:No. Yahweh created evil. He boasted of it himself 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:40am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:So you're saying Yahweh is everywhere in his church? 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:42am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:We? Dude this happened in the old testament. Way before Jesus supposedly came. Besides it was even stated in the new testament(where the 'dispensation of grace' was supposedly around) that anyone that sees yahweh's face dies. 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:44am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:So it was inspired by Yahweh yet they still used terms that are nebulous and confusing to man? 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:47am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Actually its christians that dont understand what destiny is. It doesn't change. What you're destined for is irreversible 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 11:48am On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Actually its christians that dont understand what destiny is. It doesn't change. What you're destined for is irreversible |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 12:00pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I'm sorry to say this. But this doesn't make sense. Lets give an example. I (Yahweh) know (not guessed) that my child(mankind) would run through the sitting room and not the kitchen, to meet me. Now I know he's going through the sitting room and not the kitchen, even if the kitchen is nearer to him. IT'S HIS DESTINY TO GO THROUGH THE SITTING ROOM he can't change it. 2 Likes |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 12:02pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:You're contradicting yourself. Think before typing |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by advocatejare(m): 12:51pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
MightySparrow:Thanks |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by orisa37: 3:12pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
THE BIBLE DOESN'T GAFFE. Jaephoenix(m) IS CONFUSED WITH THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE OF THE WORLD AS THE BIBLE PRESENTS THEM. I HAVE COME NOT TO DESTROY THE LAW BUT TO FULFIL IT. GOD IS IN HEAVEN AND FOR HIM THE OLD TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN. HE IS LORDGOD IN TRANSIT. FOR HIM, THE SPIRITS, THE ABSORPTIONS, CONTRAPTIONS, CONTRADICTIONS, AND THE REVELATIONS ARE MOVING. HE IS THE LORD ON EARTH AND FOR HIM THE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO FULFIL THE OLD TESTAMENT AND TO MANIFEST ITS PREDICTIONS. NOTHING AT ALL IS WRONG WITH THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND THE WILL OF GOD ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN THIS SATELLITE MISSILE CALLED EARTH, IS A CONSCIENCE OF EVIL AND GOOD AND IS A FIXTURE OF GOD TO MONITOR AND CONTROL HIS CREATIONS. THE BIBLE IS OUR DAILY BREAD OF LIFE. THE BIBLE IS OUR INSTRUCTOR, DIRECTOR AND DISCERNMENT OF GOD FOR US. THE BIBLE IS OUR SECURITY SAFETY AND SUCCESS. THE BIBLE IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION IN OUR HANDS. THE BIBLE IS A MIRACLE AND THE CONTROLLER OF LIFE AND DEATH. THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD. FROM ORUNTO27 ORISAORUNTOSPEAKS. ELON MUSK IS ROCKETING TO GODSPHERE TO COLLECT A NEW TESTAMENT, MAYBE ANOTHER BIBLE. GOD BLESS ELON MUSK. |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by Maynman: 4:30pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
orisa37: Jargons 1 Like
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Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 7:32pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:1. Dude, i thought u said it wasn't Yahweh that made the soul? 2. Why did Yahweh create the tree of evil? And not only that, put it in the middle of the garden right where Adam would be admiring it? |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:38pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Can you define destiny |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:41pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Dont mind those guys, especially TenQ. When atheists grill him, he'll be running away. He avoids these kinds of topics cos he'll get seriously drilled 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:43pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
FxMasterz:The regular responses I get from Christian. Now tell him to pick just one out of context verse, and .. you'll encounter silence. 3 christians have made the same comments. When I asked them to pick out the out of context verses, they disappeared. Only 1 is attempting to pick them, and he's making a mess of the whole thing. Though I appreciate his effort 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:46pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
AntiChristian:I don't think so. They have avoided the thread like it's a lepers joint. Some have made half-hearted attempts at denigrating the topic that its out of context, yet cannot provide those texts. Even the guy that challenged me to open the thread Ken4Christ has gone AWOL since 4 days |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:48pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Looks like you don't understand his point. First things first, define destiny 1 Like |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:49pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:He's giving an example. An all-knowing god would know your next move. He won't be guessing whether you'll be good or bad. Explain these verses ◄ Genesis 22:12 ► “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son. ◄ Deuteronomy 8:2 ► Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands. ◄ Deuteronomy 13:3 ► you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul Do they depict an omniscient god who knows the end from the beginning |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
SIRTee15:THAT MEANS HE DOESN'T KNOW MAYNMANN'S DESTINY |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
FxMasterz:You have no answers bro. Pick just one verse that is outta context. Just one |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:52pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Ok, I'll do that |
Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(m): 10:53pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
Chibuezem:Which isreal are you talking about? This present one? |
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