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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:19pm On May 08, 2023
airmark:


You should be working for Inec.
is belotti still relapsing?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:22pm On May 08, 2023
popizaino:



They are not made for that position we are playing them and that is why they are struggling and the team's lack of goals. To get the best use of them we need to try them on the left wing side of attack.

I think you are still stuck with traditional 4-4-2 with a left-sided no 11 and right sided no 7.

To prove your point, you have got to come up with a whole load of data and supporting facts, not only occasional goals.

The wingers are now inverted for a reason. Traditional wingers have evolved from creators-only to becoming full-on goal scorers themselves.

When a left winger operates from the right, and cuts inside to face goal, on his left foot, he has more possibilities at goal - an in-swinging cross to find attacking positions, and more importantly, shots on goal.

With shots on goal come the major difference. On their left foot in that position, they can aim shots at either side of the goalie with accuracy. Nothing like tight angle. On the left side in the same position, same player is limited to timid shots on their weaker foot.

This means that for them to be effective, they have to bring play to their stronger foot, which inevitably limits them to crossing for chances only, and occasional goals from tight angles - the ones you come and show us here.

Shots at goal from tight angles are more predictable which makes the whole team's effort at goal more predictable and less effective. The same applies to right-footed wingers in same situations.

The question is why would you want to do that, when the wingers themselves have evolved their games to become goal scorers and not just creators?

I don't want to think that you believe Pep and Jurgen are wrong for playing Mahrez and Salah respectively on the right.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:29pm On May 08, 2023
popizaino:



Every left footed player is tailor-made for the left side of the pitch only the extremely versatile ones are play across every part.

Messi, C.Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, Rashford, Salah, Mahrez, Robben all say no.

If we go down levels Mitoma, Saint Maximin, Hazard, Kvara, Mudryk, Saka, Martinelli, Zaha also say no.

Football has changed. With teams playing just 1 striker, wingers are now inverted because they are a dual threat (creator and scorer). A traditional winger is limited to being mainly a creator and not a scorer, which is why it worked in the old 4-4-2 when there were 2 strikers waiting in the box.

You can read nat.eevs thesis for a detailed breakdown.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:02pm On May 08, 2023
lordfalcao:
is belotti still relapsing?

I am more interested in the 24 league goals you claimed your Lacasera scored, this season. You should be renamed, Lordyakubu. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:03pm On May 08, 2023
popizaino:



Every left footed player is tailor-made for the left side of the pitch only the extremely versatile ones are play across every part.

Are we in 1994? grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 2:41pm On May 08, 2023
Popi too like old fashioned things
Old players
Old tactics
Very soon you go suggest harry redknapp as manager for us

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 2:51pm On May 08, 2023
zeusis:
Popi too like old fashioned things
Old players
Old tactics
Very soon you go suggest harry redknapp as manager for us
LMAO. I was about to say this. Popi na old school lapel grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 3:05pm On May 08, 2023
Baldiola knows quality when he sees one.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 3:13pm On May 08, 2023
grin grin grin

Apariola. Halaand must have lifed the curse.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:47pm On May 08, 2023
nateevs:


I think you are still stuck with traditional 4-4-2 with a left-sided no 11 and right sided no 7.


You can say that again but my whole argument is about the players themselves, just because they are left footed and attacker does not make them Messi,robben and Salah. Every team needs to know what works for them and which players fits a certain kind of game plan. I will never have suggested the likes of messi,robben and Salah to start from the left.


nateevs:


To prove your point, you have got to come up with a whole load of data and supporting facts, not only occasional goals.

I think i have done that with Sane,Di-Maria and Malouda examples and i get the same redundant feedback as it's been 10years ago when Sane still actively plays from the left.

nateevs:

The wingers are now inverted for a reason. Traditional wingers have evolved from creators-only to becoming full-on goal scorers themselves.
.

Ours are not scoring,our strikers are getting limited services because this inverted who are supposed to create are losing the ball in the vital areas just by trying to go on their weaker foot so why not try them were they will be task with creating alone and goals as bonus ?
nateevs:


When a left winger operates from the right, and cuts inside to face goal, on his left foot, he has more possibilities at goal - an in-swinging cross to find attacking positions, and more importantly, shots on goal.
Yes, i don't dispute the fact that the possibilities at goal, cutting from the right isn't higher for a left footed players and vice-versa from right footed player as well but what do you do when your own attacker isn't getting the ball in the position as expected?


What you are describing a perfect scenario, a video game like scenario,this is reality. Football is not played one way,the reason we are were we are today. Chelsea foolishly copying prime Barcelona when the players are robotic. You can't ask Malouda to come and do the work of messi or robben,it is impossible. A good tactician will sit and analyse his players before tasking them with specific duties. Off my head Gareth Bale scored us while he was Tottenham cutting into his right and played a low shot passed Petr Cech or Cudicini or so. The player marking him was Paolo Ferreira or easy remembrance.

nateevs:

With shots on goal come the major difference. On their left foot in that position, they can aim shots at either side of the goalie with accuracy. Nothing like tight angle. On the left side in the same position, same player is limited to timid shots on their weaker foot.

This means that for them to be effective, they have to bring play to their stronger foot, which inevitably limits them to crossing for chances only, and occasional goals from tight angles - the ones you come and show us here.

Shots at goal from tight angles are more predictable which makes the whole team's effort at goal more predictable and less effective. The same applies to right-footed wingers in same situations.

The question is why would you want to do that, when the wingers themselves have evolved their games to become goal scorers and not just creators?

I don't want to think that you believe Pep and Jurgen are wrong for playing Mahrez and Salah respectively on the right.

The same pep played Sane from the left and he still does it with foden.

Lastly, football isn't stactic,it is evolving and part of the evolving is players like Ziyech being asked to play from the left.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:51pm On May 08, 2023
airmark:


Are we in 1994? grin


USA is not hosting the world cup now. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:49pm On May 08, 2023
popizaino:



USA is not hosting the world cup now. grin

You and these your takes ehn. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 5:33pm On May 08, 2023
I am not a prophet but I can assure you that by the time this is complete you won’t be able to find chelsea there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:41pm On May 08, 2023
atiku07:


GOD BLESS U
Amen
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:43pm On May 08, 2023
A001:

Any sensible Chelsea fan knows Boli made a grave mistake sacking Tuchel prematurely at the beginning of the season.

The jury is still out whether Boli is set to wreck the club or not. He has spoilt this season for us completely due to his inexperience and cluelessness.

Klopp also had moments of crises this season (just like he did in his first season in EPL), now things are much better for them, and they could play UCL next season or at least Europa.

I'm sure a foolish owner like Boli would have sacked Kloop few months ago when the team was struggling in games.

Top coaches like Kloop, Tuchel have their bad times and will deliver good results for any owner or board that backs them patiently.

Both coaches have earned being given some benefit of doubt when things are rough, unlike some rookies like Potter and Lampard.

Hopefully, Boli has learned from his mistakes. He no sabi run football business at all.

About Tuchel winning Bundesliga this season, that's the least expected of a top coach like him being one of the best coaches in the world. I expect him to win a series of titles with Bayern Munich.
Tuchel was not sacked due to performance
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 5:47pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:
I am not a prophet but I can assure you that by the time this is complete you won’t be able to find chelsea there
And After the group stages..... Barcelona will disappear!!! You wan bet??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 6:01pm On May 08, 2023
Ihebu4chelsea:
And After the group stages..... Barcelona will disappear!!! You wan bet??

Can you bet your balls on this ?

You won’t smell ucl for 2 seasons and not just 1 grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 6:05pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:


Can you bet your balls on this ?

You won’t smell ucl for 2 seasons and not just 1 grin
Oga rest..... As if Barcelona is Playing in UCl to win it. Or just Representation!!!! No dhe wyne yourself!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 6:06pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:


Can you bet your balls on this ?

You won’t smell ucl for 2 seasons and not just 1 grin
which year you win UCL Last self?? You fit remember??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 6:06pm On May 08, 2023
popizaino:



They are not made for that position we are playing them and that is why they are struggling and the team's lack of goals. To get the best use of them we need to try them on the left wing side of attack.
Seems your ideal winger is the type that bomb crosses, like cross and nod style.. this means men like Vini Junior and Hazard is not your type of winger
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 6:08pm On May 08, 2023
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afrodoc2:


Messi, C.Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, Rashford Salah, Mahrez, Robben all say no.

If we go down levels Mitoma, Saint Maximin, Hazard, Kvara, Mudryk, Saka, Martinelli, Zaha also say no.

Football has changed. With teams playing just 1 striker, wingers are now inverted because they are a dual threat (creator and scorer). A traditional winger is limited to being mainly a creator and not a scorer, which is why it worked in the old 4-4-2 when there were 2 strikers waiting in the box.

You can read nat.eevs thesis for a detailed breakdown.
Saw what you did there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:09pm On May 08, 2023
Brighton dey kolet o

What happened to De Zerbi ball
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 6:11pm On May 08, 2023
Everton 3-0
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 6:13pm On May 08, 2023
Ihebu4chelsea:
which year you win UCL Last self?? You fit remember??

Dem never born you then be that because na 2016 dem born you

You people will suffer ,una never see anything grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper04(m): 6:13pm On May 08, 2023
BlueMann:
Brighton dey kolet o

What happened to De Zerbi ball
Small teams Sabi play their own football, or no be the same Brighton wey wan die on top man u match be this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 6:13pm On May 08, 2023
Ihebu4chelsea:
Oga rest..... As if Barcelona is Playing in UCl to win it. Or just Representation!!!! No dhe wyne yourself!

The thing pain this one grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 6:17pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:


Dem never born you then be that because na 2016 dem born you

You people will suffer ,una never see anything grin
Suffer?? Which suffer big pass your own? 2016 -2023 na how many years? Abi Madrid no be La Liga team Like barcelona?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 6:18pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:


The thing pain this one grin
You know the truth... Even Uefa itself know say nah representation Barcelona come do!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 6:45pm On May 08, 2023
Ihebu4chelsea:
You know the truth... Even Uefa itself know say nah representation Barcelona come do!!

Cry now cry tomorrow ,won’t give you a trophy or a champions league place 😛😛😛
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 6:54pm On May 08, 2023
Greatihex:
Tuchel was not sacked due to performance
Most Chelsea fans know that except the clowns here that think his achievements with us were a fluke.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lusid: 6:58pm On May 08, 2023
Raumdeuter, airmark I just read messi humiliated boateng inside outside at camp nou in 2015 to score one of his greatest goal. Shed more light
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FirstbornWds: 8:26pm On May 08, 2023
andrew444:
I am not a prophet but I can assure you that by the time this is complete you won’t be able to find chelsea there


What you have is common sense

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