2mch:

You are a stupid person. You have been roundly defeated. You started with the insult but can’t take it when I give you insult. Mad person.

See idiot. You quoted Hameed Ali and Buhari as your source. And you say you defeat me with facts? How old are you really?

Magnetic010:
Nigerians didn’t ask the right questions then and we sure aren’t asking the right questions now…
Why do we have subsidy in the first place?
Because me import fuel right
So why do we import fuel?
Because our refineries aren’t working?
So why aren’t our refineries working?

If we fixed all our refineries would we still need to import fuel?

So why haven’t we channeled resources over the years to fix the refineries?

We stopped importation of rice because “we want to grow our economy and consume locally grown rice right?

So why did the price of locally grown rice shoot up?

These and many more are questions we should be asking the government. These are things we should demand answers to otherwise we’ll just keep hearing different nonsense every new day

Very good point!!!! Don't mind them, as long as we continue to import the product, subsidy will not go away.. let's us fix our refineries. How can an oil producing country will be importing fuel. This is shameful

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

Who and who trust Buhari and Tinubu now?
What would have happened if he removed it, what have trusting them got to do?
They will remove and eat it or what?
Between Gej who is a sent and the drug peddling shameless old man, who is.more trusted.
Dey play

tete7000:


You are still here quoting foolishly on subject beyond you? Your case is pathetic and beyond redemption. Oil is not lucrative and yet the whole world grope in pain since sanctions were placed on Russian oil because of its war with Ukraine? Who really can help you? The school you went to couldn't even open your mind to objectively analyse issues, you talk like those agberos discussing in beer parlour. Tufiakwa! O se fun e!

You are stupid. Can’t even write the Yoruba you are appropriating well. Continue Googling nonsense. Show us the evidence of what Jonathan used the money at the height of crude prices to do? You people think everybody on NL is gullible and mad like you. If you have the money for subsidy, go and pay it! Nobody is apologizing to Jonathan. Instead of building refineries and laying ground work for a day like this, he and his cabal were busy robbing Nigeria blind. Which is why that protest happened. You think some of us were not alive in 2012 you retard?

seunmsg:


Your ignorance is appalling. You think the price will remain static till now from 2012? If we’ve allowed GEJ to fully remove subsidy in 2012 and eliminate regulated prices, the price per liter would still be around N500 today so what’s your point?

Gosh! There are too many economic illiterates on this website these days.
Can you imagine that dweeb you responded to here saying that the current government should take the price of fuel back to the GEJ period.

GEJ and his team were supposed to build Greenfield refineries then but they never did after NLC and others had discussions with the government. The primary reason Occupy Nigeria took place around Nigeria then was simply because there was NO efficient refinery operations going on and GEJ wanted to remove the subsidy without visible palliatives or plan for a functional refinery.

Dangote will start production next month and that has been the saving grace otherwise a lot of Nigerians would have revolted.

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Am not even APC to start with. I 100% support Peter Obi's manifesto which is to remove the subsidy on psm.

Nobody is against fuel subsidy removal except the criminal elites that benefits from it.
The problem is the execution of such.

Things needed to be rightly put in place to cushion the effects of removing fuel subsidy before going ahead to do exactly that.

Peter obi's idea on fuel subsidy removal should be the practical standard,not this stupid pronouncement Tinubu made.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

what sort of idiosy is this? You no get shame?

femisplash:
Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.

Pls explain partial susbdiy removal professor?

seunmsg:


Nothing less than N400 with current market conditions. However, market conditions may push the price upwards or downwards anytime. The point of removing subsidy is not to fix price but to allow market conditions dictate the price.

You guys just keep using the term market to cover up your ignorance. What exactly is the market? How com market has a baseline but does not have an upper boundary?
You guys are actually clueless but just want to form intellectual

seunmsg:


The part in bold is wrong. Very wrong. Government is not paying subsidy because we import petrol. Government pay subsidy because Nigerians don’t want to buy petrol at market determined price. We want to buy petrol at a price regulated below the cost of production and profit margin of petrol importers and refiners. Let’s understand this and not confuse each other, please.

Lol many of you are clowns.
Do you even know what susbdiy is?

Kukutenla:

You guys just keep using the term market to cover up your ignorance. What exactly is the market? How com market has a baseline but does not have an upper boundary?
You guys are actually clueless but just want to form intellectual

That fella is very very myopic, shallow minded and a poor reasoner

Another attention seeking MOFO. Apologies kee you dumbest retard.

Magnetic010:
Nigerians didn’t ask the right questions then and we sure aren’t asking the right questions now…
Why do we have subsidy in the first place?
Because me import fuel right
So why do we import fuel?
Because our refineries aren’t working?
So why aren’t our refineries working?

If we fixed all our refineries would we still need to import fuel?

So why haven’t we channeled resources over the years to fix the refineries?

We stopped importation of rice because “we want to grow our economy and consume locally grown rice right?

So why did the price of locally grown rice shoot up?

These and many more are questions we should be asking the government. These are things we should demand answers to otherwise we’ll just keep hearing different nonsense every new day

Why isn’t it possible to give multiple likes here? You sure got a thousand likes from me. Such logical presentation. Thank you.

Ogbon sodiq, last last na wisdom and i too sabi go finish you.

DaddyJapan:
Apologise for the industrial scale theft that took place under Jonathan' subsidy program?


Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/19/nigeria-fuel-subsidy-scheme-corruption

The same fuel subsidy the APC and Buhari said is a scam in 2012. From 2015 to May 2023, how many beneficiaries of this subsidy payments did the Buhari government prosecute or arrest? Rather they spent over 11 trillion naira on this same subsidy payments that is a scam o and Nigerians said nothing. It is well with this country

XAUBulls:

Gosh! There are too many economic illiterates on this website these days.
Can you imagine that dweeb you responded to here saying that the current government should take the price of fuel back to the GEJ period.

GEJ and his team were supposed to build Greenfield refineries then but they never did after NLC and other had discussions with the government. The primary reason Occupy Nigeria took place around Nigeria then was simply because there was NO efficient refinery operations going on and GEJ wanted to remove the subsidy without visible palliatives or plan for a functional refinery.

Dangote will start production next month and that has been the saving grace otherwise a lot of Nigerians would have revolted.

"Dangote will start production next month and that has been the saving grace otherwise a lot of Nigerians would have revolted"

Which Dangote refinery will start production next month ? Lol.

Dangote refinery that's not even half completed ,or which refinery are you talking about ?
Don't be deceived by the mischievous opener they did some days back,nothing is completed yet.

It's projected to start production 2024 or Early 2025.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

You do not trust the government of that time but you trust the government that has brought hardship upon us.
One if the reasons Nigeria won't move forward is because we have people like you who prefer your own tribe even if they are worse.
During GEJs tenure, Nigerians were balling. Can you compare N87 to N540 per liter? If GEJ had removed subsidy, we wouldn't be buying up to N200 per liter. But you guys didn't like him.
I hope you're buying your own fuel at a cheaper rate

emmybobo1:

The argument here is why are yorubas tribalizing the issue, victimizing those who resist it. But in 2012 nobody GEj and pdp didn't see it as a tribal thing neither did the pdp supporters victimize a section of the country

Hypocrites..

The truth always hurt you guys..

Ajaero supported Obi! This is what they're saying! NLC president already messed up the whole thing by being partisan!

Calling for a strike is baseless here.

Government already told workers 2 days ago they'll review minimum wage. Government already talked about Palliatives for Nigerians. So why is he calling for a strike if not for hidden intentions?

https://www.nairaland.com/7713314/tinubu-review-minimum-wage-reflect

[quote author=Iceberg3 post=123577099][/quote]ogbon sodiq, last last na wisdom and i too sabi go finish you.

femisplash:
Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.

If GEJ removed subsidy and fuel price is still low, why don't you give him credit ?

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

No. It's because you wanted to destroy Jonathan's government with lies.


What has APC done since 2015 to make it trustworthy!

slivertongue:
We've gone pass 2012.

Subsidy removal is must. But it has been removed by Buhari but his men still budgeted for subsidy and diverted it. This administration wants money and is using removal of subsidy to jack up cost of goods which in turn will attract higher taxes.

Don't dismiss history. You learn from it. The certificates you gained 10 years ago, you still use them today.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

na tinubu we go trust abi

2mch:


Google mugu, you rely on Google when speculation rate vs what the market actually pays could be different. What did Jonathan do with 143 dollars per barrel?

During russia invasion on ukraine what did buhari do when crude oil went as high as 140 dollars per barrel? You know to trade blame but you forget that the money left in foreign reserve was almost exhausted before buhari left office while goodluck left over 40 billion dollars for the next administration.

seunmsg:


Yes if we insist petrol should be sold at N195 per liter.

where was this energy during Jonathan's time?

2mch:

You are stupid. Can’t even write the Yoruba you are appropriating well. Continue Googling nonsense. Show us the evidence of what Jonathan used the money at the height of crude prices to do? You people think everybody on NL is gullible and mad like you. If you have the money for subsidy, go and pay it! Nobody is apologizing to Jonathan. Instead of building refineries and laying ground work for a day like this, he and his cabal were busy robbing Nigeria blind. Which is why that protest happened. You think some of us were not alive in 2012 you retard?

Instead of you to be asking what improvement APC under Buhari (touted as an honest and patriotic leader by Tinubu on assumption of power) despite all their promises brought to Nigeria, you are still talking of Jonathan. I thought apc promised to build you new refinery every year or thereabout, how many did Buhari build? How many barrels was he about to refined from old refineries despite billions spent on TAM? The questions you ought to be asking, you don't even know. When I said you are idiotically gullible, you think I am wrong? You think I can't see your idiocy from far?

femisplash:
Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.

But you supported Buhari?

Was he better?

Thank God the Naira redesigning policy dealth with you people in that country, but it's funny it never thought you people any bitter lesson.

You are going in for another round of suffering, let's believe it will make you people have sense this time.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

So how do you think the 95% of Nigerians believe Tinubu and his lying APC party?

femisplash:
Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.

Fools like this one are the ones that keep misinforming people. Jonathan initially did a Total removal and prices went to #143. Due to protests, he had to opt for partial removal.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
So what difference will it make apologizing? Some people just like making unnecessary noise. Almost 95% of Nigerians were against the removal of the subsidy in 2012 simply because we did not trust the government of the day.

Speak for yourself

femisplash:
Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.

You are the clown here, you and Adams Oshiomhole should join the rest in apologize to GEJ all you enemy of this great country. This is the problem that would have been solved 11years ago but you people used tribalism, religion and ethnic group sentiment to frustrate his government. The good thing is that this hardship is not for selected people wether rich or poor in one way or the other you are going to fill all these bad government.