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Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 4:58pm On Jun 11, 2023
Maynmann:


Who were they persecuting?
Send link where you read so

The ONLY person without Google!
Here, here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire#:~:text=Although%20it%20is%20often%20claimed,living%20in%20the%20Roman%20Empire.
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 5:10pm On Jun 11, 2023
You are yet to answer my question, when did “Christianity” went to rome?
Your new testament was written in Rome language lol

PoliteActivist:


The ONLY person without Google!
Here, here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire#:~:text=Although%20it%20is%20often%20claimed,living%20in%20the%20Roman%20Empire.
Emperor Nero was persecuting Chrestians.
https://www.nairaland.com/7475870/chrestians-started-fire-rome
There was nothing like “christianity” during nero time.

Talking about google, have you look up yahweh the israelite god on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 7:08pm On Jun 11, 2023
Maynmann:
You are yet to answer my question, when did “Christianity” went to rome?
Your new testament was written in Rome language lol


Emperor Nero was persecuting Chrestians.
https://www.nairaland.com/7475870/chrestians-started-fire-rome
There was nothing like “christianity” during nero time.

Talking about google, have you look up yahweh the israelite god on it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

With all due respect I try to avoid stupid arguments. I don't argue settled history.
If you are being semantic that the word "Christianity" had not yet been coined, same thing - you know full well I'm referring to followers of Lord Jesus
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 7:10pm On Jun 11, 2023
PoliteActivist:


With all due respect I try to avoid stupid arguments. I don't argue settled history.
If you are being semantic that the word "Christianity" had not yet been coined, same thing - you know full well I'm referring to followers of Lord Jesus
So where in history were “followers of lord jesus”crucified?
The new testament you are basing your life on belongs to Chrestians.

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 8:21pm On Jun 11, 2023
Maynmann:

So where in history were “followers of lord jesus”crucified?
The new testament you are basing your life on belongs to Chrestians.

Here's proof that if you write something, no matter how nonsensical, someone would believe it.
In that case, you can go a step further - Lord Jesus was never called Jesus; his name was Yeshua - no one ever called Jesus. Therefore Christians are following someone else!
Arrant stupidity
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 8:28pm On Jun 11, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Here's proof that if you write something, no matter how nonsensical, someone would believe it.
In that case, you can go a step further - Lord Jesus was never called Jesus; his name was Yeshua - no one ever called Jesus. Therefore Christians are following someone else!
Arrant stupidity
If he spoke aramaic, he would have been called isho, no wonder it is “isa” in quran.

If isho was alive he would have been a judaist.
“Christianity” is a greek word, so when did “Christianity” went to rome?
New testament was written in Rome language, the mother of all churches in in Rome.

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 8:39pm On Jun 11, 2023
Maynmann:

If he spoke aramaic, he would have been called isho, no wonder it is “isa” in quran.

If isho was alive he would have been a judaist.
“Christianity” is a greek word, so when did “Christianity” went to rome?
New testament was written in Rome language, the mother of all churches in in Rome.

But he was never called Jesus - so there you have it, that's not who Christians are following!
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 8:42pm On Jun 11, 2023
PoliteActivist:


But he was never called Jesus - so there you have it, that's not who Christians are following!
You should know that New Testament was written in Greek.
And the Transliteration of Yeshua in Greek is lesous, in latin it is iesus, the early church fathers had to replace i with j to give “jesus”.
Jesus is a latin name of yeshua.
The correct Translation of Yeshua is Joshua.
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 10:21pm On Jun 11, 2023
Maynmann:

If he spoke aramaic, he would have been called isho, no wonder it is “isa” in quran.

If isho was alive he would have been a judaist.
“Christianity” is a greek word, so when did “Christianity” went to rome?
New testament was written in Rome language, the mother of all churches in in Rome.

Maynmann:

You should know that New Testament was written in Greek.
And the Transliteration of Yeshua in Greek is lesous, in latin it is iesus, the early church fathers had to replace i with j to give “jesus”.
Jesus is a latin name of yeshua.
The correct Translation of Yeshua is Joshua.

My brother stop confusing yourself. Proper names have neither translation nor transliteration, except to spell out the meaning of the name in another language. Corruption of the spelling or the pronunciation of a proper name doesn't make that transliteration of the name. Lord Jesus had a name he was given at birth that came with the proper spelling and proper pronunciation, which you can't change to anything else, no matter what language you happen to be speaking!
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 12:48am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:




My brother stop confusing yourself. Proper names have neither translation nor transliteration, except to spell out the meaning of the name in another language. Corruption of the spelling or the pronunciation of a proper name doesn't make that transliteration of the name. Lord Jesus had a name he was given at birth that came with the proper spelling and proper pronunciation, which you can't change to anything else, no matter what language you happen to be speaking!
My brother, Stop saying what you don’t know.
Proper names are translated into different languages, you are calling it “jesus” because it has been transliterated in English, if you were a greek, you will call it lesous.

If your savior was a jewish man he would have been named like any jew boy, “yeshua” is a very common hebrew name.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:04am On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

My brother, Stop saying what you don’t know.
Proper names are translated into different languages, you are calling it “jesus” because it has been transliterated.
If your savior was a jewish man he would have been named like any jew boy, “yeshua” is a very common hebrew name.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua


Ok, what is Lalasticlala in Yoruba.
What is Emeka in Hausa
What is Tinubu in Igbo
What is Shehu in Itshekiri

Let's hear it
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:07am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Ok, what is Lalasticlala in Yoruba.
What is Emeka in Hausa
What is Tinubu in Igbo
What is Shehu in Itshekiri

Let's hear it
Let’s start from emeka.
Is emeka not an igbo name?
Jesus is a latin name as iesus, how did iesus turn to jesus?

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by SIRTee15: 1:16am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Ok, what is Lalasticlala in Yoruba.
What is Emeka in Hausa
What is Tinubu in Igbo
What is Shehu in Itshekiri

Let's hear it

Stop wasting your time on this clueless atheist, trust me it's waste of time. Nairaland atheist are mostly intellectually deficient, u will gain less by engaging with them.
They make bogus claim they can't defend or produce evidence for.
One came here and claimed Isaac Newton was an atheist. When I disproved it and showed he was actually a Christian, he turned around and said he was a secret atheist bit couldn't prove it.
Some will start arguing the bible they know nothing about.
They just like throwing around big big meaningless arguments that lacks substance.

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Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:23am On Jun 12, 2023
SIRTee15:


Stop wasting your time on this clueless atheist, trust me it's waste of time. Nairaland atheist are mostly intellectually deficient, u will gain less by engaging with them.
They make bogus claim they can't defend or produce evidence for.
One came here and claimed Isaac Newton was an atheist. When I disproved it and showed he was actually a Christian, he turned around and said he was a secret atheist bit couldn't prove it.
Some will start arguing the bible they know nothing about.
They just like throwing around big big meaningless arguments that lacks substance.
Exactly you disprove him and showed him evidence, if the guy couldn’t provide evidence you should be able to understand na, theists do it all the time.
Pele Yahweh worshipper. cheesy

How is arguing on newton religion relates to arguing about the bible?
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:31am On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

Let’s start from emeka.
Is emeka not an igbo name?
Jesus is a latin name as iesus, how did iesus turn to jesus?

So transliterate the other names.
Spanish pronounce Jesus as Hesus. So?
Bottom line, we know who we are talking about. So stop being nit picky about Christian and Chrestian!
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:34am On Jun 12, 2023
SIRTee15:


Stop wasting your time on this clueless atheist, trust me it's waste of time. Nairaland atheist are mostly intellectually deficient, u will gain less by engaging with them.
They make bogus claim they can't defend or produce evidence for.
One came here and claimed Isaac Newton was an atheist. When I disproved it and showed he was actually a Christian, he turned around and said he was a secret atheist bit couldn't prove it.
Some will start arguing the bible they know nothing about.
They just like throwing around big big meaningless arguments that lacks substance.

Funny thing is, if you observe them well, it'll slowly dawn on you: Atheism is a religion!
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:35am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


So transliterate the other names.
Spanish pronounce Jesus as Hesus. So?
Bottom line, we know who we are talking about. So stop being nit picky about Christian and Chrestian!
Hope you know the difference between translation and transliteration?

So spanish pronouce janitor as hanitor?show me where you saw it.
Also we are not talking about pronunciation here but translation into another language.

The New Testament you are basing your life on belongs to Chrestians.
From Codex Sinaiticus, we learn that all previous manuscripts that became included in the Modern New Testament are not “Christian”, but Chrestian; we can see how monks much later scratched the Greek H (E) used in Chrest to become the I of Christ.

Religion thrives on ignorance.

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:35am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Atheism is a religion!
The same way Theism is a religion bwahahaha
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 2:11am On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

Hope you know the difference between translation and transliteration?

So spanish pronouce janitor as hanitor?show me where you saw it.
Also we are not talking about pronunciation here but translation into another language.

The New Testament you are basing your life on belongs to Chrestians.
From Codex Sinaiticus, we learn that all previous manuscripts that became included in the Modern New Testament are not “Christian”, but Chrestian; we can see how monks much later scratched the Greek H (E) used in Chrest to become the I of Christ.

Religion thrives on ignorance.

My friend point is Lord Jesus was never called any of those names so technically they are not his names. But we know who we are talking about - that's what counts.

So regale us: why were the Romans persecuting "Chrestians". And Paul's letter to the church in Rome, was it written to Chrestians? And Paul himself, was he a "Chrestian"?
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 2:13am On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

The same way Theism is a religion bwahahaha

But Theists don't say religion thrives on ignorance. You say it, meanwhile you're a religion!
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 2:14am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


My friend point is Lord Jesus was never called any of those names so technically they are not his names. But we know who we are talking about - that's what counts.

So regale us: why were the Romans persecuting "Chrestians". And Paul's letter to the church in Rome, was it written to Chrestians? And Paul himself, was he a "Chrestian"?
My friend, jesus is a latin name, if your savior was a jewish man he would have been called just another hebrew name. Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament.

In your bible, who named paul a Chrestian? Did he name himself that?
Was paul not called a “ring leader of the nazarene?”

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 2:15am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


But Theists don't say religion thrives on ignorance. You say it, meanwhile you're a religion!
This makes no sense yahweh worshipper.
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by SIRTee15: 11:18am On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


My friend point is Lord Jesus was never called any of those names so technically they are not his names. But we know who we are talking about - that's what counts.

So regale us: why were the Romans persecuting "Chrestians". And Paul's letter to the church in Rome, was it written to Chrestians? And Paul himself, was he a "Chrestian"?

I agree with u atheism is now a religion for them. Becos I dont understand how they stick to ignorance when u destroyed their claim with irrefutable evidence.
I understand if Muslims stick to ignorance despite truth staring them in the face. If they accept the truth, Islam dies.
But for atheist, I don't get it.
This maynman disturbing u with chrestian theory, I remember bruising her really bad she almost cried with the nonsense chrestian claim.

Now she has had started with Rome theory.
Ask her the who was the first bishop of Rome and check how her response will rubbish her claim.
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 12:53pm On Jun 12, 2023
SIRTee15:


I agree with u atheism is now a religion for them. Becos I dont understand how they stick to ignorance when u destroyed their claim with irrefutable evidence.
I understand if Muslims stick to ignorance despite truth staring them in the face. If they accept the truth, Islam dies.
But for atheist, I don't get it.
This maynman disturbing u with chrestian theory, I remember bruising her really bad she almost cried with the nonsense chrestian claim.

Now she has had started with Rome theory.
Ask her the who was the first bishop of Rome and check how her response will rubbish her claim.

I stop taking her serious when I noticed all she does is VERY SELECTIVELY quote Wikipedia! cheesy
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 12:59pm On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


I stop taking her serious when I noticed all she does is VERY SELECTIVELY quote Wikipedia! cheesy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:02pm On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

My friend, jesus is a latin name, if your savior was a jewish man he would have been called just another hebrew name. Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament.

In your bible, who named paul a Chrestian? Did he name himself that?
Was paul not called a “ring leader of the nazarene?”

Why do you confuse yourself with semantics and very selectively quoting Wikipedia? Christ is Spirit not bound by semantics or a book. Why not pray you have a direct experience with the Spirit (as Paul did) so you'll see for yourself cool
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:05pm On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

So why was Rome suddenly persecuting them and feeding them to animals? Or that didn’t happen either?
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:05pm On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Why do you confuse yourself with semantics and very selectively quoting Wikipedia? Christ is Spirit not bound by semantics or a book. Why not pray you have a direct experience with the Spirit (as Paul did) so you'll see for yourself cool
Where is the selective wikipedia, why don’t you quote your own parts?
Christ is a greek word, and it means anointed with OIL.
In hebrew it is “messiah”, there are a lot of messiahs in tanakh.
Spirit means breathe, wind, air, why don’t you have knowledge on the words you are regurgitating?

Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by Maynmann: 1:06pm On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


So why was Rome suddenly persecuting them and feeding them to animals? Or that.didn’t happen either?
Suddenly?
Do you think chrestians are peaceful people?
They are murderers, they burnt rome and killed king nero.
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by sonmvayina(m): 1:09pm On Jun 12, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Who do you think the Romans were persecuting and feeding to animals?

Who told you this tale?
Romans or Christians??
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:11pm On Jun 12, 2023
Maynmann:

Do you think chrestians are peaceful people?
They are murderers, they burnt rome and killed king nero.

So why did their persecution suddenly start at time of spreading of gospel of Lord Jesus and suddenly end when edict of Millan legitimatized Christianity?
Re: Atheist vs Christians thread by PoliteActivist: 1:12pm On Jun 12, 2023
sonmvayina:


Who told you this tale?
Romans or Christians??

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