Santa2:


Truth is every govt would make policies to suit them as at when they need it. From the get go I knew the PSW/care work route was going to be a short gap just to back fill the vaacum left post brexit. Reminds me of several years ago when I kept delaying applying for the HSMP program until it was scrapped. Migration is as old as the world itself. and countries would keep changing policies as it suits them. Historically whenever economic landscape experiences a downturn, politicians tend to turn to immigration as one of the low hanging fruits they take a jab at. After the storm clears they 'open borders' again. I do not like it. Heck, its the world we live in. The Onus on is me to plan ahead, plan well, and not to be caught sleeping. We go dey alright las last.

Zahra29:


Because even with a net migration of over 600k, the largest ever, there's still a chronic shortage in most sectors. This gives rise to the reasoning that the current model is not working. Because unlike the eastern Europeans, immigrants from India , Nigeria etc are not interested in working in hospitality, construction, agriculture, blue collar jobs like plumbing, carpentry etc. So unless they print 5M visas to entice people from these countries into these sectors - but where will they live and which hospitals will they go to?
It's is not sustainable and the gov is waking up to this fact. Even labour is talking about training up and mobilising its citizens (e.g. by increasing wages) over importing foreign workers.
Soon enough they'll seek a deal with the EU to access their labour market.

lavida001:


Including IHS and visa fee plus tuition fees of student plus rent and taxes we pay. It’s running into billions of £ that we add to their economy

Raalsalghul:


Remember reading a particular post here some few years ago: a particular nairalander called them "bait and switch."

jedisco:


Classic knee-jerk.

Just like before Brexit, it was clear the care sector was heavily reliant on eastern Europeans who left after the vote.
There were only 3 options- the government facilitating a wage rise of at least 40% to make it more attractive, a collapse of the sector or lastly, the government facilitating folks from other nations to come take up those jobs.

We know what the government chose.

If that visa route is stopped (quite likely), it's only a matter of 2-4 years before those who came in migrate into other sectors with thesame labour shortage arising again. Just like with the PSW, they'd chase their tail once more while the public wallows in ignorance.

Goke7:


who were they expecting to fill in the gaps, Angels from Heaven? Look here, the Brits are what they are, it's even beyond the issues of racism, they just get irritated when they are fed up of so many people within their space contending for the same resources whether white, brown, or black. From the old days of the Windrush generation to Brexit, it's the same story and the same narratives around net migration and how it's affecting them badly. The benefits they have enjoyed from this migration influx over the years they play down when whenever they are bored. It's a cycle or is it now they realise the benefits of being in the EU? do we not hear stories of how the Windrush generation helped to build their NHS and even their railways? did they not always wake up one day and start chasing people up and down be it Europeans or whoever.

Now they are even fed up with even the refugees from Ukraine and Hongkong, nothing is new jare about their behaviour

justwise:
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Absolutely! Remember that they left the EU so as to control the border get £350m back into NHS? Has any of that happened?

Goke7:


she you dey whine me ni

lavida001:


This is the truth…once they sense other race filling out their jobs or where they live they will begin agitating to kick them out one way or the other. We should all realise that eve if you acquire British passport, it doesn’t make you one of them. They know their own people and when it’s time they will show their real colour.

Goke7:


who says? were they offered the jobs and they rejected them. This is the narrative I keep talking about, lies upon lies, just say you don't want more people in and stop the lies. The average person who comes into the UK just wants a means of livelihood no matter the sector but how many are given the chance? Let's be honest here, the Uk is chasing shadows. They have been talking about a deal with EU since they voted Brexit, when will they stop these lies, is it the same EU that is also facing skill shortages that they are talking about? Again it's not making even common sense

Zahra29:


Really? Even on this forum how many times have certain jobs/ sectors been scoffed at? a PSW holder can work anywhere so why are they not plugging the gaps in certain sectors? How many are happy to work in care medium/long term or training to be an electrician or carpenter, when such occupations are looked down on in their home country.

You know that the average Nigerian and Indian wants a high powered job or to own their own business, so the reality is that even if they were given visas to fill these roles, their aim would be to flee to a more befitting occupation the first chance they get, and so the cycle would continue with the government having to print out another 5M visas in 2 years time to plug the shortages - unless they imposed strict measures like banning visa holders from switching to a different sector or they do like the UAE and decouple some employment visas from the settlement route. But they would be labelled fascist if they did that.

This is why the current model isn't working nor is it sustainable.

samsmokey:

PSW can work in any sector indeed, but why would they go for PSW in the first instance which is essentially worthless if they aim for ILR in 5yrs? How many of the blue collar jobs are offering sponsorship outside H&C?
After spending £15-20k for an MSc why should the new entrants not target the “high powered” jobs? You don’t expect someone who invested so much in their education to just go do something else unless as last resort do you?
In case you’re not aware, SWV holders cannot work outside of their primary field. Knowing Nigerians and the hustling spirit, I know their are many people with white collar jobs who wouldn’t mind doing a second or even third white or blue collar job to build themselves up, but the same government made that a very complicated process.
No one is doing the other a favour in this country, if the government wants to fill more blue collar or low skilled occupations, they can come down their high horse and recruit low skilled people to come in and do the jobs. We have an abundance of people in Naija and other parts of Africa. If they only want to attract the best and brightest don’t expect they’d come in and be in servitude to you for eternity, everyone follows the money.

acosfd:


Natwest £200 pounds Don land. Una do well o

Abeg which bank dey give bonus again, let the switching continue

Zahra29:


I agree with this.
Brexit is now being exposed as a failed experiment and it won't be long before the UK seeks out some sort of agreement with the EU to allow labour to come in (more) freely. The average Brexit voter certainly did not vote for increased immigration from black and brown countries (which doesn't even plug the full spectrum of labour shortages) which is why they are now considering ways to address this.

Being in the EU was so much better. Most sectors had a steady and sustainable supply of labour. Construction, agriculture, cleaning, nursing etc ...not just the care sector. And most EU workers were very hard working.

Hopefully the gov is beginning (or soon will) to have closed door discussions on how to plug back into the EU labour market.

justwise:
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Absolutely! Remember that they left the EU so as to control the border get £350m back into NHS? Has any of that happened?

justwise:


..its more than that for family of 2 or 4

Zahra29:


Really? Even on this forum how many times have certain jobs/ sectors been scoffed at? a PSW holder can work anywhere so why are they not plugging the gaps in certain sectors? How many are happy to work in care medium/long term or training to be an electrician or carpenter, when such occupations are looked down on in their home country.

You know that the average Nigerian and Indian wants a high powered job or to own their own business, so the reality is that even if they were given visas to fill these roles, their aim would be to flee to a more befitting occupation the first chance they get, and so the cycle would continue with the government having to print out another 5M visas in 2 years time to plug the shortages - unless they imposed strict measures like banning visa holders from switching to a different sector or they do like the UAE and decouple some employment visas from the settlement route. But they would be labelled fascist if they did that.

This is why the current model isn't working nor is it sustainable.

lavida001:



Is this even true that they fund EU 350 million pounds weekly? One thing I have understood about this brits is they lie a lot.

Schoolhike:
I would like to know if NHS can sponsor band 4 administrative role?

acosfd:


Natwest £200 pounds Don land. Una do well o

Abeg which bank dey give bonus again, let the switching continue

yusufDeveloper:
Hello everyone,

Recently, I was endorsed by Tech Nation for the Global Talent Visa (GTV). I switched from PSW to GTV, but I still had 1 year+ on PSW before I switched. I have a few questions, help and clarification on certain things.

1) Am I entitled to the IHS refund on my previous visa? I have been seeing different posts that only people in care work visas are eligible. I do not know how true it is.

2) Are there any platform I can use for contract work (Outside IR35) ONLY? as I am no longer interested in a fulltime/permanent role. Please recommend apart from the normal one indeed, reed, etc.

3) I am trying to setup a business later this year (still in development mode), but can I register the company directly (https://www.gov.uk/set-up-business) or use of agent such as (https://www.1stformations.co.uk/) is better because I do not have physical/online address that I can use to register my business for now

Thank you 🙂

Goke7:


Your points at times doesn’t reflect current realities. The psw visa is not cheap for the average graduate, most can’t afford it especially when as students they could only work 20hrs a week. To apply for psw you need almost 2k, where will a graduate see that amount after just recovering from sch fees and other expenses, those with families can’t afford paying almost 2k per individual which makes many settling for care visas (far cheaper) which restrict them to only the health sector, leaving only dependents perhaps to fill roles in other sectors. The dependents now have been banned from coming to the uk. Can you now see that it’s the uk that is not serious about filling job shortages?

The Uk govt have themselves to blame if the current model is not working. It has nothing to do with migrants as they only go for the readily available visas they can afford to get or sustain their right to work. The uk government know what to do but are they sincere?

Goke7:


You can’t beat the average Brit in any lying competition. We Africans are learners lol

lavida001:



Is this even true that they fund EU 350 million pounds weekly? One thing I have understood about this brits is they lie a lot.

koonbey:


Oh really? Is that so?

But it’s not their country that’s locked in a quagmire of corruption such that dishonesty, bribery and extortion is all up in your face from the moment you step on the shores (or airport) through to almost every single interaction you have with a government official and a vast majority of people.

Is it?

koonbey:


The PSW visa is very affordable for any graduate, if they truly had access to the money they had proven that they have to support their living expenses for the duration of their studies, while applying for the visa.

The fees for the visa are easily covered by just two or three months of that 20-hour week limit, especially if you factor in the unrestricted vacation work periods.

And IHS? FHS it’s 600 odd pounds per year for unlimited mostly free access to a world-class healthcare system. In that same US some people are hailing a ‘simple’ ambulance trip to the hospital and treatment for a day for heat exhaustion cost a friend of mine over $3,000 recently. There people are often afraid to call ambulances even when they clearly need urgent medical help.

The ‘average Brit’ you people are slandering here has been paying into the funds that made up that system all their life via direct and indirect taxes, and their parents and ancestors for hundreds of years paid into it as well. And they are still paying the same taxes and NI contributions and whatnot as you are today, but 600 pounds per year is exorbitant?

Haba mana. Haba.

Plus, after all they said on this thread that migrants to the UK from Nigeria are like people living in Banana Island, among other Nigerians.

We all know why it looks like it’s too unaffordable for many graduates, abi? So tell us - Is the UK government to blame for people not having access to the money they claimed they had or for people not planning properly for the dependents they brought?

Goke7:


Yes but we thought we were also in a country of saints and angels where they are not dishonest at all but alas our dear Nigeria is still a learner to some very dishonest acts we also witness here, let’s not even colour it, it’s what it is