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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:46pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Santa2: đŻ immigration is time and chance because govts will always act in their own interest. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:52pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: who says? were they offered the jobs and they rejected them. This is the narrative I keep talking about, lies upon lies, just say you don't want more people in and stop the lies. The average person who comes into the UK just wants a means of livelihood no matter the sector but how many are given the chance? Let's be honest here, the Uk is chasing shadows. They have been talking about a deal with EU since they voted Brexit, when will they stop these lies, is it the same EU that is also facing skill shortages that they are talking about? Again it's not making even common sense 8 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 7:03pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
lavida001: ..its more than that for family of 2 or 4 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 7:04pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Raalsalghul: ..and that is exactly what they are |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 7:07pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
jedisco: Absolutely! Remember that they left the EU so as to control the border get ÂŁ350m back into NHS? Has any of that happened? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 7:08pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: This is the truthâŚonce they sense other race filling out their jobs or where they live they will begin agitating to kick them out one way or the other. We should all realise that eve if you acquire British passport, it doesnât make you one of them. They know their own people and when itâs time they will show their real colour. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:12pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: she you dey whine me ni |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 7:19pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: 2 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:26pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
lavida001: it's irritation bruv, once they are irritated, they start coming up with all sorts of narratives to justify their fascist policies 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by harddrive2012: 7:48pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Omoh! How are they sending EU ÂŁ350 million a weekđ [quote author=justwise post=124258602][/quote] |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:37pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: Really? Even on this forum how many times have certain jobs/ sectors been scoffed at? a PSW holder can work anywhere so why are they not plugging the gaps in certain sectors? How many are happy to work in care medium/long term or training to be an electrician or carpenter, when such occupations are looked down on in their home country. You know that the average Nigerian and Indian wants a high powered job or to own their own business, so the reality is that even if they were given visas to fill these roles, their aim would be to flee to a more befitting occupation the first chance they get, and so the cycle would continue with the government having to print out another 5M visas in 2 years time to plug the shortages - unless they imposed strict measures like banning visa holders from switching to a different sector or they do like the UAE and decouple some employment visas from the settlement route. But they would be labelled fascist if they did that. This is why the current model isn't working nor is it sustainable. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by samsmokey: 10:14pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29:PSW can work in any sector indeed, but why would they go for PSW in the first instance which is essentially worthless if they aim for ILR in 5yrs? How many of the blue collar jobs are offering sponsorship outside H&C? After spending ÂŁ15-20k for an MSc why should the new entrants not target the âhigh poweredâ jobs? You donât expect someone who invested so much in their education to just go do something else unless as last resort do you? In case youâre not aware, SWV holders cannot work outside of their primary field. Knowing Nigerians and the hustling spirit, I know their are many people with white collar jobs who wouldnât mind doing a second or even third white or blue collar job to build themselves up, but the same government made that a very complicated process. No one is doing the other a favour in this country, if the government wants to fill more blue collar or low skilled occupations, they can come down their high horse and recruit low skilled people to come in and do the jobs. We have an abundance of people in Naija and other parts of Africa. If they only want to attract the best and brightest donât expect theyâd come in and be in servitude to you for eternity, everyone follows the money. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 10:23pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
samsmokey: Pls Some should share that driving in the uk Thread. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by igbsam(m): 10:44pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
acosfd: How u take run am. Abeg ja mi si |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:56pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: Its called knee-jerk for a reason. The same way folks blame immigrants for NHS waiting times forgetting that the NHS both in primary and secondary care as far back as the 70's had always relied on immigration to keep going. We have visa schemes targeted for care workers, teachers, seasonal farm staff and drivers. With the balooning list of folks who are on benefits for being on longterm sick leave, very soon, we'd have schemes for builders, mall staff and maybe even one for the police 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 11:19pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: Lol... and how Europeans were freeloaders clogging the system. Similar arguments being made today. The UK economy has always fed off other nations for over 300 years. I see no indication of it changing today... |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:21pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: Yes I know But talking about total money student have brought into their economy in last 3 years. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:30pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
[quote author=justwise post=124258602][/quote] Is this even true that they fund EU 350 million pounds weekly? One thing I have understood about this brits is they lie a lot. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:44pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: Your points at times doesnât reflect current realities. The psw visa is not cheap for the average graduate, most canât afford it especially when as students they could only work 20hrs a week. To apply for psw you need almost 2k, where will a graduate see that amount after just recovering from sch fees and other expenses, those with families canât afford paying almost 2k per individual which makes many settling for care visas (far cheaper) which restrict them to only the health sector, leaving only dependents perhaps to fill roles in other sectors. The dependents now have been banned from coming to the uk. Can you now see that itâs the uk that is not serious about filling job shortages? The Uk govt have themselves to blame if the current model is not working. It has nothing to do with migrants as they only go for the readily available visas they can afford to get or sustain their right to work. The uk government know what to do but are they sincere? 10 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:46pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
lavida001: You canât beat the average Brit in any lying competition. We Africans are learners lol 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by LionInZion: 12:23am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Once upon a time, a man sent out 1,000 invitations for a feast in his house. The invitees were happy, booked flight tickets, bought new dresses, and packed enough luggage for the 3-day event. They also brought gold and silver to spend at the feast. But shortly after they arrived at the occasion, the host started complaining about their presence. âThey are too many!â âI need my privacy!â âThese arenât the type of guests I was expecting!â The host whined every minute. âBut you chose the guests yourself, handwritten their names and signed each invite,â his wife reminded him. âYes, I know but still I want them out!â So, he decided to turn the venue into a âhostile environmentâ towards the guests. He started by removing their seats. He ordered his servants to remove food and drinks from their tables and feed them to the dogs. When the guests have had enough, they started leaving one after the other But shortly after, the host realised that the merchandise tables he set up at various corners of the venue were experiencing low patronage. A week before the feast, he had shipped in expensive goods on credit, banking on the huge profit heâd make off his guests. Just as he pondered the imminent loss from the goods, the servants called out. âMaster, the freezers are full and we have nowhere to store the food.â âAlso, the dogs refused to eat the little we served them, as they arenât used to the taste,â another servant announced. Now, it suddenly dawned on him the loss and wastage he was about to suffer So, he brought out another round of invitations to be sent to the same set of guests But this time around with so many promises and relaxed eligibility criteria He would also sell the merchandise at a cheaper price to mitigate his loss But then, the invitees werenât really surprised. They know the host very well. This is what he does every year. The story of one generous, I mean very generous country. 29 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Strata1716: 3:06am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Schoolhike: No they sponsor from band 6 and itâs usually clinical roles 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by yusufDeveloper: 4:14am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Hello everyone, Recently, I was endorsed by Tech Nation for the Global Talent Visa (GTV). I switched from PSW to GTV, but I still had 1 year+ on PSW before I switched. I have a few questions, help and clarification on certain things. 1) Am I entitled to the IHS refund on my previous visa? I have been seeing different posts that only people in care work visas are eligible. I do not know how true it is. 2) Are there any platform I can use for contract work (Outside IR35) ONLY? as I am no longer interested in a fulltime/permanent role. Please recommend apart from the normal one indeed, reed, etc. 3) I am trying to setup a business later this year (still in development mode), but can I register the company directly (https://www.gov.uk/set-up-business) or use of agent such as (https://www.1stformations.co.uk/) is better because I do not have physical/online address that I can use to register my business for now Thank you đ 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 7:06am On Jul 07, 2023 |
acosfd: Seems First Direct Yet to try it though |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Peerielass: 7:22am On Jul 07, 2023 |
yusufDeveloper: I think you should be eligible for a refund of the unused portion of your IHS on PSW. Apply and see what happens. Regarding question 3, I would advise you go through an accountant. You would need one any way if you are going to be outside IR 35. For a small fee, most accountants/agents would allow clients to use their office as a holding address for companies house and HMRC correspondences. Alternatively you can use your home address as the registered address of your business. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 8:47am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Goke7: The PSW visa is very affordable for any graduate, if they truly had access to the money they had proven that they would use to support their living expenses for the duration of their studies, while applying for the visa. The fees for the visa are easily covered by just two or three months of that 20-hour week limit, especially if you factor in the unrestricted vacation work periods. And IHS? FHS itâs 600 odd pounds per year for unlimited mostly free access to a world-class healthcare system. In that same US some people are hailing a âsimpleâ ambulance trip to the hospital and treatment for a day for heat exhaustion cost a friend of mine over $3,000 recently. There people are often afraid to call ambulances even when they clearly need urgent medical help. The âaverage Britâ you people are slandering here has been paying into the funds that made up that system all their life via direct and indirect taxes, and their parents and ancestors for hundreds of years paid into it as well. And they are still paying the same taxes and NI contributions and whatnot as you are today, but 600 pounds per year is exorbitant? Haba mana. Haba. Plus, after all they said on this thread that migrants to the UK from Nigeria are like people living in Banana Island, among other Nigerians. We all know why it looks like itâs too unaffordable for many graduates, abi? So tell us - Is the UK government to blame for people not having access to the money they claimed they had or for people not planning properly for the dependents they brought? 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 8:56am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Goke7: Oh really? Is that so? But itâs not their country thatâs locked in a quagmire of corruption such that dishonesty, bribery and extortion are all up in your face from the moment you step on the shores (or airport) through to almost every single interaction you have with a government official and a vast majority of people. Is it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 9:02am On Jul 07, 2023 |
lavida001: Always interesting to see generalizations like this because I know if it were vice versa, the usual wokist activists would be out screaming racism and fascism and all other âisms they can think of, but here you feel comfortable slandering âthe average Britâ like this. Anyway, that statistic was false but it wasnât completely unfounded. The real figure was about half that, and the national statistics body wrote a letter criticizing those who said it, including high level government officials. Does that happen in the country where the âaverage Nigerianâ doesnât âlie a lotâ? That governmental bodies actively counter propaganda by government officials? Remember the Air Nigeria fiasco? Remember the recalibration of statistics to fudge unemployment numbers - all in the past couple of months? Maybe donât throw stones seeing as we live in a massively fragile glass house. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:20am On Jul 07, 2023 |
koonbey: Yes but we thought we were also in a country of saints and angels where they are not dishonest at all but alas our dear Nigeria is still a learner to some very dishonest acts we also witness here, letâs not even colour it, itâs what it is |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:24am On Jul 07, 2023 |
koonbey: Affordable? Thatâs a big lie, how many students are earning enough to pay for the post graduate visa. Political correctness wonât get us anywhere. The proof of funds are living cost funds and school fees and does not factor psw visa cost in any way. 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 9:27am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Justwise Please is there a living in the US thread just like this one? Could only find the student / visa application one |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 9:30am On Jul 07, 2023 |
Goke7: Lol ok. I respect your experiences and the conclusion you've drawn from them, but I have to say my experience has been the complete opposite. I have experienced exceptional kindness and forthrightness from people across a variety of scenarios - work, social life, random street interactions, etc. I have seen people lie or be dishonest, sure, but nothing that approaches what you've described, Anyway, to each his own. Selah 2 Likes |
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