They got the amount they needed.
The pastor should make a public announcement in church on the amount raised, the amount given to them and then what the church plans to do with the change, as per helping others in need instead of asking for donations all the time.
That should settle it and show some transparency.
They need to keep record of how the money was spent

The pastor did not keep the money for himself. He kept it into the church's account.
That family is a very greedy family. Their mentality could be the reason behind their poverty.

Acidosis:
The family should go and open their own church na and raise money if na so e easy.

The balance should be diverted and given to another family in need. It only becomes a problem if and when the pastor decides to spend the money on frivolities without the knowledge of the donors.

And by the way, if your church does not open the church account and make financial records public (to all members), then you and your pastors are enablers of fraud. It's one of the many things I love about Foursquare.

All members of Foursquare are entitled to the CHURCH FINANCIAL RECORDS. Every kobo that is spent are accounted for during the church's annual general meeting (including those in the remote areas). The salary and entitlements of pastors are also known to all members as well as tithes, offerings, seeds, donations, etc.

Church is not a one man's business. It is not a secret society either. A pastor that is not accountable to you, an ordinary member, cannot be accountable to the God they told you about. All your favourite apostles in the bible will not hoard tithes and church records. They are not thieves.

True, Foursquare is very balanced, if you were raised there, it's very hard to go astray.

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

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Mynd44
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Dominique

Giving the exact 245k is wrong. Post medical bills and the rest is another thing.
The bills in the hospital will be more. Feeding in the hospital is another thing. Also the said person may have been a worker,the time of his admission will means halting means of income that should cater for his dependent. 300k-400k should be have been ideal. While the balance should be reserved for another ill parishioner

Acidosis:
Hehehe see interpretation


41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.


They dropped their offerings into the temple treasury. A treasury is not the pastor's property. Dem no use evelop self or e-naira . Jesus saw all that was contributed because Church no be secret society. So give us your book, make it public, and we will mobilise for you

That's offering box na 🙄

Jesus saw them giving offering in the offering box, the exact amount wasn't known because it's for the priest. So give your own offering and tithes and collect your blessings.

CuriousStudent:

Giving the exact 245k is wrong. Post medical bills and the rest is another thing.
The bills in the hospital will be more. Feeding in the hospital is another thing. Also the said person may have been a worker,the time of his admission will means halting means of income that should cater for his dependent. 300k-400k should be have been ideal. While the balance should be reserved for another ill parishioner

This is why during my schooling days, whenever I'm going back to school, and my dad asks me to calculate my fees, accommodation and other expenses, and give him the total figure. I'll make sure I inflate the total figure possible after all my calculations. This will help cover any cost I forget to add or any emergency fee I'm slammed with in school.

I expected the family to have done this. Calculate the total cost along with expenses then inflate the total. If they had done this, they wouldn't have been shamelessly dragging money with the pastor.

The pastor is greedy and an hireling just to profit from the Gospel.

The family ungrateful and entitled to what is not theirs. Since they got the amount they requested for, they should have shown gratitude to God, the pastor and the members thereafter treat their child.

They did not even have the right to ask the pastor for the balance.

In the Bible, when a Church contributed for another needy Church, the whole contribution from the wealthier Church was sent to the Church in need.

vdestro:
Pastor is greedy

why? He put the money back where it belongs.

Nazgul:

It's tricky. But if you look at it logically, the pastor deserves the right to keep back a certain amount for the church. The microphone that was used to make announcement uses battery, and services are powered either by NEPA or gen, so expenses are being made every Sunday. Besides there are also needy people in the church which need help. So the church is entitled to a percentage whatever amount that goes into it's account.

It’s quite a tricky situation as you have stated…

I think once the medical bills is sorted out. The pastor should give account of the outstanding balance to the church to decide what it should be used for.

The pastor should not keep the money- I would have said those that contributed should be reimbursed but it would be quite difficult to keep track of that.

So maybe outstanding balance should be used for other charitable work in the church with the pastor giving full account of how the money is spent.

Nothing money cannot destroy. Including pastor’s reputation!

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

They should collect their free 245k and not be as greedy as the pastor.

vdestro:
Pastor is greedy

It's not fair to accuse the pastor of being greedy. The family is also being greedy by wanting to keep all the money raised.

The pastor did a good thing by raising the funds, and it's not the family's business what the pastor does with the leftover money. It's possible that the pastor kept the money aside for other useful purposes related to the family's needs.

Both parties are GREEDY

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

Since the money was raised using the effort and goodwill of the church I think it deserves to keep some of the money but giving just 245K to the family out of a sum of 760K is quite unfair.

The pastor should have given the family at least 75% of the money or at the very worst 50%!

FalseProphet1:

Please all pastors are now referred to as Levites. The store house is the church, so when you bring your tithe to the storehouse which is the church, the Levites which are the pastors and prophets would eat it.

It's that simple.

If you say so, Jesus'death was useless na!

The family is an Ingrate. The rest of the money should be used for the church project and carry the church along.

Half bread is better than none
The family should be greatful they saw money for surgery sef

Nazgul:

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

Some people are been sentimental because Church is involved.

To help answer this question, let look at it this way. Someone is sick on nairaland and requested of Seun to help him raise funds from nairalanders... Seun obliged. After donations, N760,000 was realized whereas the guy needs only N245,000.

Is it justifiable for Seun to give him just the 245k he needed and keep the rest in "nairaland account?"

The answer to this question is the answer to your question.

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

The pastor is 100 percent right . The balance he kept can be used to attend to some other persons in future without recouse to donation from members. The entitlement nature of us makes the family feel they ve right tobthst money ...They should be grateful ..

However the pastor would ve added a little more for his feeding ..cos he needs to recover properly

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

Learn to avoid church matter talk...
No be any body papa business...
Na God dey 🏃‍♀️ 🏃‍♂️ run am...

Wicked and greedy pastor.

What I see in the whole scenario is that the pastor didn't take that decision alone.
The family of the sick should appreciate the pastor for taking their plea and be grateful to God. There are other needs that needed attention in the church.

Ungrateful family

You see why its not good to help some people

Nazgul:

A friend told me about it that it happened in his church. Besides why do you look surprised, most up coming Pentecostal pastors character becomes pathetic once money is involved.

how much did your needy brother need again?


You all are just a greedy Bunch.
Imagine they only contributed 100k, will he be asking for change?

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

The excess fund should be kept in a different account that will be used to assist other sick or poor people in the church .



The Pastor should not personalize the money

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

That money belongs to the sick brother all of it and not for the church or pastor period. I think the pastor is just trying to be cunning as he will definitely wanna have his share from the proceeds.

Acidosis:


Oga falseprophet, you are not a Levite

This is the new testament understanding of tithes:

10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

Are you a storehouse?

How are you a Levite? Are you a member of the Hebrew tribe of Levi? Please educate me....

The pastor kept the remaining balance to help those who might need help in the future, by then it will not require holding mic to ask the congregation for money anymore

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

Post-treatment will likely have some expenses on it own, that's enough grounds to ask for yet another help but aside that, the remaining amount should be safely kept aside for any other member who may need assistance.

poshestmina:
Except the Pastor will use the rest of the money to support other sick members or disburse it to the needy ones in the church.

The pastor is greedy .



It's the Pastor's entitlement for me!
He gave exact money for the surgery .Who do surgery no go chop or need money for miscellaneous .

Same way he raised the money,same way he should announce the total money gotten and how,who he's spending it on.

It is sometimes easy to judge before hearing all sides of the story.

1. The sick people's family should be grateful they asked of N345, 000 and they got exactly what they asked for.

2. Then other part of the equation :
a. What normally happens when in such donations the money is not complete : does the church subsidise?
If they do, that excess money should go to the Subsidy purse for the next set of families that will need help
b. It was a good thing the Pastor put the remainder into the purse of the church rather than his own pockets. This would have made him guilty. This means the pastor didn't act alone. The Board of Deacons must be in know of this action

Pastor would have added additional amount to the hospital bill.

Nazgul:

A friend told me about it that it happened in his church. Besides why do you look surprised, most up coming Pentecostal pastors character becomes pathetic once money is involved.

I see you already have a negative view of "most pastors", but let me tell you something:

1. There's something called a welfare account. The excess money derived shouldn't go to the family, but rather should be kept in the welfare account so that in the future, other members can obtain help without tasking the whole church.

2. The pastor didn't hide the total amount generated. He simply gave the member what he asked for. That's a good shepherd.

3. That family is greedy, entitled and ungrateful and will definitely leave the church but if you know them, kindly beg them to leave quietly and not do or say anything that will kindle the anger of God upon them.

Nazgul:
A member of a church underwent a major operation, and his medical bill was N245,000. And he couldn't afford it.

His brother went to the Pastor on Sunday and told him to assist. The Pastor picked the microphone and told the church that our brother needs N245,000 to settle his medical bill.

Members began to donate.

After donations, what was realized was N760,000. And after the church, the Pastor counted N245,000 and gave the brother to the sick person, and then he put the balance into the church account.

The sick person's family are aggrieved. They're of the opinion that members raised that money for their brother and not the church so the church has no right to keep back any amount given to their brother. Cos the announcement was specifically to raise money for the sick brother.

The pastor is saying that they requested for 245k and he has given it to them. So whatever is left belongs to the church.

Is the pastor right?

Or is he greedy?

Contributions are welcomed.

The Pastor is wrong, church is more or less a charity organization and not a business center.
As far as that money is raised as a result of the brethren illness the pastor is suppose to give all to the family.
God knows why he made the money raised to that amount