majesticguy:
■ Those ones presently in Universities, how many of them can actually read & write. I studied Accounting education and during our teaching practice, i was shocked at many of my female coursemates who couldn't speak nor express themselves in English language, don't even get me started on some of them not being able to string together a complete sentence on their lesson notes.. So what's the difference between these ones and those that didn't see the four walls of a classroom. One has a badge while the other doesn't.

You tell me since you seem to assume that literacy is measured by whether one has seen the four walls of a classroom or not.
There are many literate individuals out there who were homeschooled and according to your formulae, even though they passed the test of literacy, they can't be considered literate since they did not pass the four walls of a classroom. You keep trying to deviate for the sake of it.

Kobojunkie:
You tell me since you seem to assume that literacy is measured by whether one has seen the four walls of a classroom or not.
There are many literate individuals out there who were homeschooled and according to your formulae, even though they passed the test of literacy, they can't be considered literate since they did not pass the four walls of a classroom. You keep trying to deviate for the sake of it.

what is literacy? ability to read and write isn't it.

For western or the first world countries yes you're right. literacy isn't measured by wether one has seen the four walls of a classroom. But in this part of the world, Nigeria for instance, you're only considered literate if you attended atlest one level of education, be it primary or secondary, that way you should be able to atlest read and write.

How many kids are home schooled in Nigeria?
In this present economy and time, how many parents have the time or privilege of homeschooling their kids?
So if one isn't privileged to be home schooled, how do they get to know how to read and write if not through the four walls of a classroom.

Economy na I'm cos am at least if u are marrying a gal who would want to raise shoulder with you at least let her bring something to the table and not a hole u won't know exists except a Rod enters inside

dabonny:


God will bless you for this. You outrightly nailed it.

I am currently dating this kind of lady, she is very pretty, ready to go out of her way to make things happen for me, especially financial wise, but when it comes to communicating my mind and dreams to her, she's always closed minded, she doesn't see things the way I do, she has never for once initiated any logical discussion, she appears to be empty headed, each time I spend with her seems to be boring, she's not a goal oriented and result driven lady, it's so sad I can't cope with awkward and barbaric way of life

Her advantage seem to be more than disadvantages..

majesticguy:
■ what is literacy? ability to read and write isn't it.
For western or the first world countries yes you're right. literacy isn't measured by wether one has seen the four walls of a classroom. But in this part of the world, Nigeria for instance, you're only considered literate if you attended atlest one level of education, be it primary or secondary, that way you should be able to atlest read and write.

How many kids are home schooled in Nigeria?
In this present economy and time, how many parents have the time or privilege of homeschooling their kids?
So if one isn't privileged to be home schooled, how do they get to know how to read and write if not through the four walls of a classroom.

Quit bullsheeting abeg! Nigeria does not get to make up it's own dictionary of the English language

lit·er·a·cy

1. ability to read and write

2. competence or knowledge in a specified area.
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·

lIteracy means same everywhere, world over.

Samantha124:
I'm not saying that I'm perfect, but such people can be really depressing.

They think they're always right, when most of the time they're wrong.

I have a relative like that, I can't stand being with her for too long because all she does is bad mouth people for a living and always sees wrongs in others even when she's the wrong one.

If you dare try to correct her or caution her, she'll insult you and hold a grudge against you like she's the victim.

And she's very superstitious... Not only does she always claims that people are jealous of her, she also claims that they're bewitching her and her family... Once she dislikes you, you're either a witch or a wizard.

She never takes accountability for her actions because she always blames evil spirits or witchcraft... Her husband tried to take her to school to further her education, but she refused.

Each time she visits our family house, I'm always in a hurry for her to leave.

Hmmm. Not just marriage. Even friendship too. Their company quickly bores someone.

Depends on the illiterate, if it is not being able to speak and write in English then I give zero fvcks cause that can be worked out and to me that ain't illiteracy but if it is lacking basic reasoning and problem solving skills and ability to unlearn then fvck NO, can't marry a dumbo

talented321:
Don't mind the op' he just want to insult ladies...
Samantha124, anybody can be boring and supid whether educated or not..

Abi o..

The question should be "Who is an illiterate".

Somebody that attended secondary school in a Big City can hardly be seen as an illiterate because what they don't know, they can understand if you explain.

But you see someone that attended secondary school in the village, but didn't proceed.. na there Problem dey. because even if you explain, they can't understand.

Depends on what you mean by the word "illiterate".Any who can read, write and is educated up to secondary school level is not an illiterate. There are a lot of university 'graduates' in Nigeria who cannot string more than two sentences together. Many of them can't even sign their own name! Your ability to read, write and have a cognitive reasoning faculty defines your level of education. That's not to say that I would date a secondary school leaver. The way I see it, as a person, the individual you date/marry is a reflection of the kind of person you are and the type of people you surround yourself with. It is very difficult (not impossible) for an Ivy league school graduate or an oxbridge graduate to date a secondary school dropout or a village girl based on their level of education, exposure and the caliber of people they surround themselves with.

MrBroke:
Depends on the illiterate, if it is not being able to speak and write in English then I give zero fvcks cause that can be worked out and to me that ain't illiteracy but if it is lacking basic reasoning and problem solving skills and ability to unlearn then fvck NO, can't marry a dumbo

People keep saying that can be worked out and my question to you is how? How do you work out dating someone who can't read or write in English in 2023?

gforce5:
■ Depends on what you mean by the word "illiterate".Any who can read, write and is educated up to secondary school level is not an illiterate. There are a lot of university 'graduates' in Nigeria who cannot string more than two sentences together. Many of them can't even sign their own name! Your ability to read, write and have a cognitive reasoning faculty defines your level of education. That's not to say that I would date a secondary school leaver. The way I see it, as a person, the individual you date/marry is a reflection of the kind of person you are and the type of people you surround yourself with. It is very difficult (not impossible) for an Ivy league school graduate or an oxbridge graduate to date a secondary school dropout or a village girl based on their level of education, exposure and the caliber of people they surround themselves with.

The problem with you lot is you will even turn the dictionary upside down in order to further confuse yourselves even more.

DaTruths:
■ The question should be "Who is an illiterate".
Somebody that attended secondary school in a Big City can hardly be seen as an illiterate because what they don't know, they can understand if you explain.
But you see someone that attended secondary school in the village, but didn't proceed.. na there Problem dey. because even if you explain, they can't understand.

Wrong! Illiteracy is clearly defined in the dictionary. There is no need for a redefinition of the word at all. OP's question to you is straight forward.

All these attempts to shift the goal post reveal the low ability to logically process what is asked and that too is just as bad as illiteracy, or maybe even worse.

Kobojunkie:
People keep saying that can be worked out and my question to you is how? How do you work out dating someone who can't read or write in English in 2023?

I have seen a few catch up.

MrBroke:
■ I have seen a few catch up.

Meaning you will do your best to force education on the illiterate you date?

Kobojunkie:
Meaning you will do your best to force education on the illiterate you date?

Do you know what education is?

MrBroke:
■ Do you know what education is?

So, are you the one to get your date/spouse this education or what?

Kobojunkie:
So, are you the one to get your date/spouse this education or what?

First thing first for me to settle for a girl like that she has to be smart, hard working and of good moral behaviour and definitely beautiful.
Now back to your question, an English teacher can be employed to teach said language privately which is more productive than the spouse doing the job day to day whenever when chanced to do so. You know there are some graduates today who can't speak and write properly so learning is never concluded or finished it is a perpetual thing.

MrBroke:
■ First thing first for me to settle for a girl like that she has to be smart, hard working and of good moral behaviour and definitely beautiful.
■ Now back to your question, an English teacher can be employed to teach said language privately which is more productive than the spouse doing the job day to day whenever when chanced to do so. You know there are some graduates today who can't speak and write properly so learning is never concluded or finished it is a perpetual thing.

See storytelling!

2. You seem to enjoy telling stories. So a graduate didn't learn to read and write before meeting you. But you think yourself the savior to resolve that issue when you begin dating em?

Kobojunkie:
See storytelling!

2. You seem to enjoy telling stories. So a graduate didn't learn to read and write before meeting you. But you think yourself the savior to resolve that issue when you begin dating em?

Nigga I ain't talking about me and nothing there is related to me am only giving an instance. The graduate part is me explaining education to you.
It seems you haven't met uneducated graduates who can't spell or pronounce a basic simple English word. The point I'm trying to make is Someone not knowing how to speak a language that isn't 100 percent necessary for communication(since said person can speak pidgin or native dialect) shouldn't be a blacklist for a relationship example is Lionel Messi and his wife. I'm done talking. Bye

Kobojunkie:
See storytelling!

2. You seem to enjoy telling stories. So a graduate didn't learn to read and write before meeting you. But you think yourself the savior to resolve that issue when you begin dating em?

Nigga I ain't talking about me and nothing there is related to me am only giving an instance. The graduate part is me explaining education to you.
It seems you haven't met uneducated graduates who can't spell or pronounce a basic simple English word. The point I'm trying to make is Someone not knowing how to speak a language that isn't 100 percent necessary for communication(since said person can speak pidgin or native dialect) shouldn't be a blacklist for a relationship example is Lionel Messi and his wife. Try and know what education is and what speaking a language is. I'm done talking. Bye

MrBroke:
■ Nigga I ain't talking about me and nothing there is related to me am only giving an instance. The graduate part is me explaining education to you. It seems you haven't met uneducated graduates who can't spell or pronounce a basic simple English word.
■ The point I'm trying to make is Someone not knowing how to speak a language that isn't 100 percent necessary for communication(since said person can speak pidgin or native dialect)
■ shouldn't be a blacklist for a relationship
■ example is Lionel Messi and his wife. Try and know what education is and what speaking a language is. I'm done talking. Bye

You are instead the one pretending to have met them and with the power to save them from their ignorance.

2. Your point is moot. Illiteracy implies not having the ability to read or write. The inability to speak a foreign language is something entirely different. Look up the meaning of the word before you go arguing meaninglessly!

3. No one is saying such people should be blacklisted. OP instead asked you how you, as an individual would be able to handle such a relationship. How do you live with someone who can't even read the print on his phone or the road signs or even write down their name and address on paper... that is what OP asked.

4. I don't know anything about Messi person, and his supposed wife, and I believe every relationship is unique since we are each of us unique t begin with. I would never want to be hitched in 2023 with anyone who has chosen to watch the world go buy without taking out time to learn to read and write. The thought of it disturbs my mind to bits.

Kobojunkie:
You are instead the one pretending to have met them and with the power to save them from their ignorance.

2. Your point is moot. Illiteracy implies not having the ability to read or write. The inability to speak a foreign language is something entirely different. Look up the meaning of the word before you go arguing meaninglessly!

3. No one is saying such people should be blacklisted. OP instead asked you how you, as an individual would be able to handle such a relationship. How do you live with someone who can't even read the print on his phone or the road signs or even write down their name and address on paper... that is what OP asked.

4. I don't know anything about Messi person, and his supposed wife, and I believe every relationship is unique since we are each of us unique t begin with. I would never want to be hitched in 2023 with anyone who has chosen to watch the world go buy without taking out time to learn to read and write. The thought of it disturbs my mind to bits.

Seems you like to proof a point then proof a point because everything I've said is simple but trying to read with intention to detest has made you not understand.

Farfalla:
Let alone the beautiful and illiterate girls. Even the ugly and illiterate girls get wifed, particularly if she is evil.

U 're confusing me

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! Illiteracy is clearly defined in the dictionary. There is no need for a redefinition of the word at all. OP's question to you is straight forward.

All these attempts to shift the goal post reveal the low ability to logically process what is asked and that too is just as bad as illiteracy, or maybe even worse.

My life is not dictated by societal conventional constants.
If shifting goalpost as you call it resonates with my disposition at a given time, leave it for me.

DaTruths:
■ My life is not dictated by societal conventional constants.
If shifting goalpost as you call it resonates with my disposition at a given time, leave it for me.

Then you should equally stay clear of discussions that assume "societal conventional constants" such as this one where Op did not indicate an alternative definition for the word was required.

Dyfynezz12:

U 're confusing me

Topic: Do men still pick beautiful, but illiterate girls to marry?
- The answer is yes.

Reason: If they can pick illiterate girls who are ugly, then it shouldn't be so difficult for the beautiful but illiterate girls to be chosen.

And given men's propensity to try to tame/soften evil women, it's usually a plus if the illiterate girl is evil, for she is guaranteed a long queue of suitors regardless of how she looks.

In summary, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is also illiterate, she'll be chosen by some.
But, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is not only illiterate but evil, she'll be chosen by many.

Understood?

Farfalla:


Topic: Do men still pick beautiful, but illiterate girls to marry?
- The answer is yes.

Reason: If they can pick illiterate girls who are ugly, then it shouldn't be so difficult for the beautiful but illiterate girls to be chosen.

And given men's propensity to try to tame/soften evil women, it's usually a plus if the illiterate girl is evil, for she is guaranteed a long queue of suitors regardless of how she looks.

In summary, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is also illiterate, she'll be chosen by some.
But, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is not only illiterate but evil, she'll be chosen by many.

Understood?

This is wicked!

Kobojunkie:
Then you should equally stay clear of discussions that assume "societal conventional constants" such as this one where Op did not indicate an alternative definition for the word was required.

BTW, did i give any definition of an illiterate on my initial post?
Or you have problems with opinions that doesn't align with what you understand?

DaTruths:
■ BTW, did i give any definition of an illiterate on my initial post?
Or you have problems with opinions that doesn't align with what you understand?

1. Yes you did.

majesticguy:


Those ones presently in Universities, how many of them can actually read & write. I studied Accounting education and during our teaching practice, i was shocked at many of my female coursemates who couldn't speak nor express themselves in English language, don't even get me started on some of them not being able to string together a complete sentence on their lesson notes.. So what's the difference between these ones and those that didn't see the four walls of a classroom. One has a badge while the other doesn't.

Including the males too.

If you want to witness the highest concentration places of illiterates in nigeria.

Just visit Nigeria government MDAs and Agencies. You will open your mouth and not be able to close it back.

Nigerian universities are just upgraded Secondary Schools.

If you are very brilliant and you had a good grade in secondary school. You don't really need to go waste your time at Nigerian universities. You can only go just because of the Paper Certificate.

Farfalla:


Topic: Do men still pick beautiful, but illiterate girls to marry?
- The answer is yes.

Reason: If they can pick illiterate girls who are ugly, then it shouldn't be so difficult for the beautiful but illiterate girls to be chosen.

And given men's propensity to try to tame/soften evil women, it's usually a plus if the illiterate girl is evil, for she is guaranteed a long queue of suitors regardless of how she looks.

In summary, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is also illiterate, she'll be chosen by some.
But, if she looks like Shrek's Princess Fiona and is not only illiterate but evil, she'll be chosen by many.

Understood?

Like seriously?

Going by ur points, u mean a girl that is beautiful, but is evil nd an illiterate will have more men vying to marry her than a beautiful but illiterate girl, I doubt so.