cornelboy:

See you if you don't want to answer my question it's okay.

I told you already that living base on our personal intuitions, consciences and knowledge would cause disastrous problems in the society. That's the reason why we have laws and orders in the first place.

If we wanna have a meaningful discussion, you have to tell me the name of your God and how you knew about him. What are his plans for his creation? Don't he or she have any set of rules for us in other to live peacefully among one another?
He or she just wants us to live according to our intuitions and die, then what else?

How did mankind develop those laws in the first place? No input from conscience, intuition or morals, but all input from religion abi?

Tell me another joke.

achorladey:



As a serious Bible student that he calls himself, I expect him to go back to Cain and Abel and learn one or two things from that account as it concerns your question obviously his lies and manipulations comes before whatever the Bible says.


I am not surprised, they have repeatedly told us here that babies are enemies of God.

Exactly, so simple and straightforward.

He can explain to us the law Cain followed before he knew murder was wrong.

OkCornel:


How did mankind develop those laws in the first place? No input from conscience, intuition or morals, but all input from religion abi?

Tell me another joke.

The laws in Nigeria today, do you know anything about how they established them?

Should we follow laws set by some certain people or should we follow our personal intuition and conscience?

You haven't still and questions about your God

cornelboy:

The laws in Nigeria today, do you know anything about how they established them?

Should we follow laws set by some certain people or should we follow our personal intuition and conscience?

You haven't still and questions about your God

Oh… tell me more. Mankind and the law started in Nigeria, keep on educating us. We are learning

OkCornel:


Exactly, so simple and straightforward.

He can explain to us the law Cain followed before he knew murder was wrong.

Or what pushed him and his brother to offer whatever they offered in the way and manner they did it.

cornelboy:

See you if you don't want to answer my question it's okay.

I told you already that living base on our personal intuitions, consciences and knowledge would cause disastrous problems in the society. That's the reason why we have laws and orders in the first place.

If we wanna have a meaningful discussion, you have to tell me the name of your God and how you knew about him. What are his plans for his creation? Don't he or she have any set of rules for us in other to live peacefully among one another?
He or she just wants us to live according to our intuitions and die, then what else?

If we wanna have a meaningful discussion, you have to tell me the name of your God and how you knew about him. What are his plans for his creation? Don't he or she have any set of rules for us in other to live peacefully among one another?

They are always the one to determine meaningful discussion. It is not meaningful because he didn't allow you to peddle your lies and manipulations here

OkCornel:


How did mankind develop those laws in the first place? No input from conscience, intuition or morals, but all input from religion abi?

Tell me another joke.

This question go choke am

This particular one needs to go and learn sociology 101 as it relates to human interaction, relationships with fellow man and the environment

OkCornel:


Oh… tell me more. Mankind and the law started in Nigeria, keep on educating us. We are learning

Lol
I'd like to know this your nameless God haha

cornelboy:

Lol
I'd like to know this your nameless God haha

If you were half as clever as you think you are, you’d have figured out by now I threw you a bone which you’ve swallowed hook, line and sinker.

You are more interested in the “God” I believe in rather than the subject matter at hand.

Abeg shift.

OkCornel:


If you were half as clever as you think you are, you’d have figured out by now I threw you a bone which you’ve swallowed hook, line and sinker.

You are more interested in the “God” I believe in rather than the subject matter at hand.

Abeg shift.

Lol what was the subject at hand?

I have been asking the question right from the start of the discussion, haven't I
But you keep dodging it. Cool

cornelboy:

Lol what was the subject at hand?

I have been asking the question right from the start of the discussion, haven't I
But you keep dodging it. Cool

Oh nice, you’ve been asking about the “God” I believe in right from when you started quoting me?

Go and read your questions again.

OkCornel:


Oh nice, you’ve been asking about the “God” I believe in right from when you started quoting me?

Go and read your questions again.

So have you answered the question?
"Where did you get the info that 'intuition, knowledge and knowledge are sufficient' from?"
I was trying to know whether you got the idea from your God. That's why I have been asking who God is and how did you know him?

If you're saying we should all follow our personal intuition, knowledge and conscience, it's same as an atheist that claims there's no God.

So who's your God, how did you know him?

cornelboy:

So have you answered the question?
"Where did you get the info that 'intuition, knowledge and knowledge are sufficient' from?"
I was trying to know whether you got the idea from your God. That's why I have been asking who God is and how did you know him?

If you're saying we should all follow our personal intuition, knowledge and conscience, it's same as an atheist that claims there's no God.

So who's your God, how did you know him?

Just read the bolded part of your message and ask yourself if you made any iota of sense in what you just wrote.

What is the logical connection between following one’s intuition and conscience with an atheist claiming there’s no God?

Oh wait, only atheists have conscience and intuition abi?

Cc: achorladey

OkCornel:


Just read the bolded part of your message and ask yourself if you made any iota of sense in what you just wrote.

Cc: achorladey

It makes sense to me.
Living by our individual intuition, conscience and knowledge is the same thing atheist do.
So if you say we don't need religion before we differentiate between right and wrong, it's same as saying we don't need God.
Perhaps it requires a lot of sense to understand what I'm saying.

Surprisingly you claim that you believe in the creator, so who's this creator and how did you know him ??

cornelboy:

It makes sense to me.
Living by our individual intuition, conscience and knowledge is the same thing atheist do.
So if you say we don't need religion before we different between right and wrong, it's same as saying we don't need God.
Perhaps it requires a lot of sense to understand what I'm saying.

Surprisingly you claim that you believe in the creator, so who's this creator and how did you know him ??

Ehya, so by your logic - Apostle Paul was referring to the gentiles as atheists here right?

Romans 2 v 14-16;
14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.

15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


Boy, shift abeg.

OkCornel:


Just read the bolded part of your message and ask yourself if you made any iota of sense in what you just wrote.

What is the logical connection between following one’s intuition and conscience with an atheist claiming there’s no God?

Oh wait, only atheists have conscience and intuition abi?

Cc: achorladey

Considering the few encounter I have with this particular one. What I know about them for sure is the urge to manipulate and peddle lies. Here is why? Your opening salvo states.......

A character deficit, morally bankrupt nation. To be good or bad is a function of choice, not religious beliefs.

You see him come running back to first manipulate your point then start adding his lies gradually.

What religion was in place when Abel and Cain did what they did. What religious organization or laws of a nation developed then defined what Abel did as good and what Cain did as bad then?

OkCornel:


Ehya, so by your logic - Apostle Paul was referring to the gentiles as atheists here right?

Romans 2 v 14-16;
14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.

15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


Boy, shift abeg.

Oh did Apostle Paul have a religion, did he not preach a religion?
Ọmọ é be like say this guy no know wetin religion means sha

OkCornel:


Ehya, so by your logic - Apostle Paul was referring to the gentiles as atheists here right?

Romans 2 v 14-16;
14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.

15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


Boy, shift abeg.

Oya cornelboy come and start your manipulations and lies from here

cornelboy:

Oh did Apostle Paul have a religion, did he not preach a religion?
Ọmọ é be like say this guy no know wetin religion means sha

You now have to ask more irrelevant questions to perpetrate your lies, the base point was.....

A character deficit, morally bankrupt nation. To be good or bad is a function of choice, not religious beliefs.

See how the Bible support his point first and stop asking whether Paul has a religion or not.

That Paul has a religion or not didn't remove the fact that Paul believed some people do good or bad without religious belief. Get that into your lying and manipulating brains

OkCornel:


Just read the bolded part of your message and ask yourself if you made any iota of sense in what you just wrote.

What is the logical connection between following one’s intuition and conscience with an atheist claiming there’s no God?

Oh wait, only atheists have conscience and intuition abi?

Cc: achorladey

Answer to the bold is NO

and his bold part you were referring to stated......

If you're saying we should all follow our personal intuition, knowledge and conscience, it's same as an atheist that claims there's no God.

Is as good as him trying to implant manipulations to colour your point of view.

achorladey:



Answer to the bold is NO

and his bold part you were referring to stated......



Is as good as him trying to implant manipulations to colour your point of view.

Gbam!

He was caught red handed and exposed.

I still wondering o

Manofsteel2013:
I still wondering o

That one called cornelboy trying to manipulate people here thinking OkCornel don't know what he is saying. Look at the experience related by one of their religious leaders housed in USA saying.........


I will tell you one ah, one thing that ah, one story that happened to me when I was serving in the Philippines, one day a couple of young brothers came to my office in the Service Department and they reported that, ah, they were very very concerned about, ah, cardboard boxes and tin cans that were disappearing from the kitchen. Now, I mean, I thought that was so ridiculous. You know, in America we have tin cans and and cardboard boxes piled up everywhere and nobody's the least bit concerned about it. But, ah, so I was kind of dismissive of these brothers. But they were, there were not about to let me go, you know. They they continued. They were persistent. And finally, after they explained themselves several times I finally got the sense of what they were saying.



You see, in the Philippines, those cardboard boxes and tin cans could be sold for money. And some of the brothers actually, sadly, had become involved in kind of an improper business arrangement whereby they were selling these things and benefitting personally from the arrangement


You can see this particular situation happened inside where they call Bethel - house of God yet people working inside the so called "house of God" are doing shady deals behind the employer who employed them


When OkCornel said.....

A character deficit, morally bankrupt nation. To be good or bad is a function of choice, not religious beliefs.

That liar and manipulator was peddling lies manipulations about religion and God

OkCornel:


Gbam!

He was caught red handed and exposed.

I see why you dodged my questions lol
You even try to quote a very religious person from a religious book after you claimed that religion is not needed. Funny!

Here are the pending questions:
What's the name of your God?
How did you know this God?

cornelboy:

I see why you dodged my questions lol
You even try to quote a very religious person from a religious book after you claimed that religion is not needed. Funny!

Here are the pending questions:
What's the name of your God?
How did you know this God?

And the religious person told you the gentiles needed religion and the law to distinguish good from evil abi?

I’m enjoying this dance of shamelessness you’re displaying. Keep it up.

cornelboy:

I see why you dodged my questions lol
You even try to quote a very religious person from a religious book after you claimed that religion is not needed. Funny!
Here are the pending questions:
What's the name of your God?
How did you know this God?

Satan has really done an excellent work with false religions. With the atrocities committed in the name of RELIGION most people now feel it's better to be themselves without associating with any known religion, they feel it's needless associating with people who can still hurt you one way or the other so they have concluded that there's no reason to be religious.

Satan is really smart o!

However these are few things to consider:

Was Jesus targeting a group of perfect humans?
How does he feel when his closest confidants fail to stand firm in the things he taught them?
Was he comfortable being himself since his friends are sinners and imperfect?
Did he acknowledged his imperfect friends as his REAL brothers and sisters in faith?

Sincere answers to these questions will help honest hearted and sincere individuals!

Ken4Christ:


The church has deviated from the ancient path set by the early church:

1. Most churches don't preach Christ anymore. Rather, they preach their pastor and extol him as god.

2. Most pastors don't live by examples anymore.

3. Most churches don't preach moral messages anymore. Only sweet messages that the people want to hear.

4. No planned follow up and visitations on new souls to build them up.

5. No genuine love amongst the brethren anymore that should inspire people to come to Christ.

6. The internet world is corrupting the minds of our young ones faster than the church is affecting their lives.

7. Some churches are purely established as business centers to defraud gullible souls.


We need revival in the church. We need to discover the ancient path. We need to get away from materialism and focus more on the things of heaven.

May God deliver the church from worldliness in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

You have made a lot of points that I agree with.

But let's talk about Materialism.
That has been the greatest undoing of True religion. The minute the church started preaching "wealth" or "financial prosperity" as the evidence of serving God or living a holy life, a lot changed.

OPICANTO2223:
You should also ask why do we have many mosques in Afghanistan and many middle eastern countries plus Nigerian, but corruption have eaten deep the bone marrow deep.

That is the point of the discussion.
What is so different about Nigeria's case ?

Is it the people?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

"By their FRUITS you will know" Matthew 7:15-20

Before Satan got angry the world was under his reign yet he was managing the little way he could but after Jesus' earthly mission Satan realized that his destruction is getting close so he began initiating his own agents right in the midst of those claiming CHRISTIANS {Matthew 13:25} it's their growth that's felt globally today! 2Timothy 3:1-5

Why?

Because Satan wants to blacklist Jesus' disciples so he went ahead to initiate many false prophets all claiming ministers of light {2Corinthians 11:14} if you look critically at the things happening in the world today you will agree with me that 90% of atrocities committed are carried out by religionists claiming they know Jesus either Muslims or Christians while atheists, agnostics, Judaists, Buddhists, Hindus and Traditionalists now seems better than those attributing their form of religion to Abraham.

Well it's a sacred secret for another day.

Know that only those PRACTICING what Jesus taught are on God's side no matter how nice, kind or generous a person is all their gestures are like excrement before the true God! Isaiah 64:6

If you want to know more about the secret i'm with you!

How do you chose when to quote from the epistles of Paul at one time, while yet at another time say Paul's teachings are irrelevant and don't hold water as compared to Christ's teachings?

Is it some form of confusion of your sect or what exactly ?

Porksupplyib:

How do you chose when to quote from the epistles of Paul at one time, while yet at another time say Paul's teachings are irrelevant and don't hold water as compared to Christ's teachings?

Is it some form of confusion of your sect or what exactly ?

The highlighted shows that you know nothing about God's people today because you can never ever find any of our publication where a single of Paul's letter is undermined!

Porksupplyib:


How do you chose when to quote from the epistles of Paul at one time, while yet at another time say Paul's teachings are irrelevant and don't hold water as compared to Christ's teachings?

Is it some form of confusion of your sect or what exactly ?

Na the manipulations and lies packed into his brains by his GODS of men housed in USA

MaxInDHouse:


Satan has really done an excellent work with false religions. With the atrocities committed in the name of RELIGION most people now feel it's better to be themselves without associating with any known religion, they feel it's needless associating with people who can still hurt you one way or the other so they have concluded that there's no reason to be religious.

Satan is really smart o!

However these are few things to consider:

Was Jesus targeting a group of perfect humans?
How does he feel when his closest confidants fail to stand firm in the things he taught them?
Was he comfortable being himself since his friends are sinners and imperfect?
Did he acknowledged his imperfect friends as his REAL brothers and sisters in faith?

Sincere answers to these questions will help honest hearted and sincere individuals!

Those your manipulations and lies filled questions to further advance your lies and manipulations

concluded that there's no reason to be religious.

Madness and insanities peddling peddler what being religious mean was never defined by the lies and manipulations fused into your brains by your GODS