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Courz:
Why are there consequences for leaving your Cult if no one is forcing JWs to stay?

What are the consequences? Achorladey didn't say he faced any consequences

cornelboy:
Have you used your education to accomplish anything?

Yes!

The richest people in the world today dropped out of college.

But he is educated and acquired various degree later.

A person that was disfellowshipped is definitely an ex JW

So what of the person who left willingly?

chatinent:
All we need as humans is to be good to our neighbour, man. We don't really need to be overly righteous or discriminate. We are all sinners first.

hahahahahaha

cornelboy:
What are the consequences? Achorladey didn't say he faced any consequences

You must be a fool for thinking I will school you on your doctrine. Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave?

MaxInDHouse:
NO! Those sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines aren't Christians!

Satan planted his agents in the midst of Jesus' disciples in the first century {Matthew 13:25} the result is different religions under the control of different demons claiming Christians! 2Corinthians 11:14

That's why Jesus sent his true disciples to go and speak with interested ones in their homes one on one! Matthew 10:1-13

That's why Satan is using all his agents and their followers to criticize Jehovah's Witnesses because if you are allowed to pay attention to the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses you will know God's plan for faithful people! Matthew 5:11-12

What if Satan is using Jw to confuse others? What makes you think that yours is the truth?

For a start, not believing in miracle whereas the first Christians believed is a pointer that yours may not be the right one.

This is not to criticise your faith but to show you that you don't need to criticise others faith. You would have been an tribal worshiper if you were born into one.

Courz:
You must be a fool for thinking I will school you on your doctrine. Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave?

What do you think about the consequences? Are good or bad consequences?

mank1234:
What if Satan is using Jw to confuse others? What makes you think that yours is the truth?
For a start, not believing in miracle whereas the first Christians believed is a pointer that yours may not be the right one.
This is not to criticise your faith but to show you that you don't need to criticise others faith. You might have been an tribal worshiper if you were born into one.

I was born a Muslim it's my love for pure worship that led me to Jehovah's Witnesses.

So if you want to know the truth about pure worship i'm with you!

cornelboy:
What are the consequences? Achorladey didn't say he faced any consequences

madness and insanities peddling peddler. We need evidence of your lies and manipulations that I was disfellowshipped.

I am not the one who set up your religious organization. Hahahahaha, I didn't create rules foe members joining or leaving. Face your lies and manipulations. Answer the question you are asked

Emusan:
This is not true.

Many translations have it just that most MODERN translations don't.



Well the major reason for Its rejection is that, the text wasn't found in MAJORITY EARLY GREEK MANUSCRIPTS but only found in most Latin manuscripts. Which is late.

But the evidence is that most early Christians scholars both Greek and Latin already know about the word and alluded to it in their writings. So something must have gone wrong along the way of transmitting.

Ok

cornelboy:
What do you think about the consequences? Are good or bad consequences?

Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave? Typical definition of a Cult!

Emusan:
Yes!



But he is educated and acquired various degree later.



So what the person who left willingly?

That should show you that degrees are useless when it comes to making money.

Bring proof that achorladey left himself and wasn't disfellowshipped

Janosky:
No second lie at all
@ John 20:17, did Jesus Christ debunk the claim that TRINITARIANS always make about John 20:28?
Yes !

Jesus Christ said to the woman:
"but go to my brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father."

BossD, does your God have brethrens?
Does your God have a Father?

@ John 20:17, BossD, do you agree that Jesus, the woman & Thomas Worship the same God that Jesus ascended to meet?



BossD, please kindly repost it.
Likely I might have responded to to your questions.

Jesus didn't debunk anything Thomas said. It was a separate address given to the woman to deliver a message to some other disciples.

Please understand that that the Lord Jesus is both human and divine. He has brethren: Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters." You should understand that an angel is not brethren to any human.

Janosky:
Oga, which verses and chapter in your Bible?
Abeg show am here.

Is Obvious you read your Bible but don't study your Bible.....

Now let's get it down....

Gen 1vs 26 , inshort if you follow Genesis 1 down to verse 26 , you will see how light was formed etc until it reach to creation of man....

Now, understand the process , in verse 26....

God said, let us create man in what
(In their own Image )

What image was God and is God??

The image of God then and now is the Spirit Image without any shape or form....

So in verse 26 ....man was made a Spirit , to dwell in the likeness of God ...and God gave man Dominion over the Earth ....

Verse 27.....so God created man in his image he created them MALE and FEMALE
Now was there anything like Adam then or Eve ?
No ...they were still in the Spirit being or form when he created them MALE and FEMALE....

Then let's go to Chapter 2 vs 5......
If you go to the second paragraph...
For the lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth and what?....there was no man to till the ground

meaning ;that after the creation of other things, and after God created MAN and FEMALE as seen above as Spirits, there was no physical man to till the grounds....

Genesis Chapter 2 Verse 7 ......After seeing that there was no Physical man on Earth to till the Ground.....
God now FORMED Man.....he didn't go creating man again....he formed man from the Spirit Man....to become Physical man through the Dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life , and MAN BECAME A LIVING BEING.... why the emphasis?

Please before reading the Bible again, pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you to rather Study the Bible than just read it.....

Don't be like other religions that read the Bible instead of studying it because they lack the Holy Spirit of God in them.....

MaxInDHouse:
I was born a Muslim it's my love for pure worship that led me to Jehovah's Witnesses.

So if you want to know the truth about pure worship i'm with you!

hope una no argue or throw insults for una elders meeting.

Na general meeting with other kingdom hall users abi na meeting to disfellowship another erring member?

MaxInDHouse:
I was born a Muslim it's my love for pure worship that led me to Jehovah's Witnesses.

So if you want to know the truth about pure worship i'm with you!

Nothing like pure worship. You're what you listen to.
People also change from JW to Islam, any other religion anytime. Their claim would be same as yours. Nothing unique.

They belong to the world!
They have no part with God, Jesus and His Church.
They are not children of God.
Sin & Satan still have dominion over them.
Without repentance and receiving Jesus, they go to hell on physical death!
Very unfortunate!

Courz:
Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave? Typical definition of a Cult!

Has achorladey died after leaving the org
Has he ever been threatened?

cornelboy:
That should show you that degrees are useless when it comes to making money.

So where did I say you need degrees to make money?

I only said your education (if you actually acquired any) is a waste.

Brainwashed is bad

Bring proof that achorladey left himself and wasn't disfellowshipped

So I should be the one to bring PROOF when you're the one who accused him falsely.

Na wa oooo

achorladey:
Evidence

Confidentiality is an etiquette in my endeavor

Janosky:
BossD,You have already formed your own opinion against John 20:17.
If Jesus Christ come to earth today and tell you he is NOT the God of Thomas (the point Jesus Christ made @ John 20:17), you still won't believe Jesus Christ.
The question is:
Was Thomas actually calling Jesus his own God?
BossD says yes.

@ John 20:17, Jesus Christ said no.

John 20:24-27, did Thomas doubt Jesus resurrection?
Emphatic yes !
Jesus told Thomas: stop doubting , believe (I have risen).

@John 20:28,is Thomas exclamation of surprise that indeed Jesus has risen?
Yes.

Thomas' declaration is an exclamation of surprise realizing that Jesus was God. This is supported by several other scriptures. You even said Jesus debunked Thomas' claims. What would Jesus debunk if Thomas is not calling Jesus God. However, I've also shown you that Jesus didn't debunk anything Thomas said.

achorladey:
madness and insanities peddling peddler. We need evidence of your lies and manipulations that I was disfellowshipped.

I am not the one who set up your religious organization. Hahahahaha, I didn't create rules foe members joining or leavimg. Face your lies and manipulations. Answer the question you are asked

Bring proof that you weren't disfellowshipped
Whether you left or you were chased out, it's the same consequences.

JWs rules are strictly Bible principles lol

Courz:
Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave? Typical definition of a Cult!

Romans 16:17
2John 10-11

Janosky:
I am NOT cornelboy. He is my friend on this forum.

Alright friend.

mank1234:
Nothing like pure worship. You're what you listen to.
People also change from JW to Islam, any other religion anytime. Their claim would be same as yours. Nothing unique.

Ọmọ God's organization is unique if you want to know ask me for reason?

Emusan:
So where did I say you need degrees to make money?

I only said your education (if you actually acquired any) is a waste.

Brainwashed is bad



So I should be the one to bring PROOF when you're the one who accused him falsely.

Na wa oooo

Why do we go to college if not for money lol

You're his lawyer na. Oya bring proof

Courz:
Yes o. They don't know Jesus. They call him Angel Michael.

Really

cornelboy:
Lol you seem not grasp what janosky is saying.

At John 20:17, who was Jesus saying he is ascending to? His Father and God right?

Definitely Thomas at verse 28 wasn't referring to Jesus as the God Jesus said he was going to at verse 17.

Calm down and learn.

Janosky is saying Jesus debunked Thomas claims. Do you agree that Jesus debunked a claim ever before it was made? You mean Jesus debunked a claim in verse 17 before the claim was made in verse 28? You're the one who should calm down and learn.

cornelboy:
Has achorladey died after leaving the org
Has he ever been threatened?

Mumu, you are trying to pretend because you are in public abi? You are pretending to be dum abi?

Look at the pic below. This screenshot is from your website. The left side is your FAQ Section talking about shunning people who leave the Cult or are disfellowshipped. Look at the right side. That's your publication. Tell me, why is the answer given by your website in the Left different from the answer given in the right? Why are you people lying in your FAQ section when you are told the opposite in your publications? Are you now seeing the consequences?

cornelboy:
Okay. I don't do fruitless argument too.
Let's start from 1 Timothy 3:16

Tell me why did KJV and NKJV used "God manifested.." whereas the rest of the translations used "Christ manifested.." or "he manifested.."??

God didn't manifest in the flesh. God sent his son and the son who was named Jesus when he came in the flesh through Mary and he became the Christ.

The verses obviously talked about Jesus Christ manifesting in the flesh not God himself.

Join Isaiah 9:6 together with 1Timothy 2:16. You'll know who manifested in the flesh. No need to argue.

MaxInDHouse:
Romans 16:17
2John 10-11

Why are there consequences for JWs that leave your Cult if they are really free to leave? Typical definition of a Cult!

Kay25:
Really

Oh Yes. Ask any of them here. They call him Angel Michael. An Angel is their Messiah.

Janosky:
Revelation 3:2,12, Did your Jesus Christ Worship himself?
You are desperate to argue with Jesus Christ revelation because you don't believe.
Faith cometh from Jesus revelation of chapter 3verse12.

Oga go verify and learn.

Christ has His humanity and Divinity. He's called the Everlasting Father, the Almighty God for a reason.