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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 6:26pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
eph12: Maybe or maybe not, it's unknowable. But seeing he is much like ETH; a rookie Manager, too strict/stubborn, favoritism, etc. I would say it would have taken him more than 6years to win anything (i.e, if not sacked within 3 years). |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 6:27pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
eph12, I forgot to add, SAF 1st season was really terrible, I mean terrible. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:50pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
main24:Exactly it's unknowable. It's same way some people say Messi won't survive the 80s and 90s or some comparisons that we can never know. We're trying to compare with ETH that has spent a lot of money on new players in his first two seasons |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nigeriagood(m): 6:53pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
ChristoBam:how's he being incompetent? ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 7:00pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
eph12: lol but ETH won you something in his 1st season. And who said SAF didn't spend money during his terrible era? He even bought his goal keeper from Aberdeen that was costing SAF games...until he dropped him before he won a trophy ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 7:05pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 7:06pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 7:07pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Nigeriagood:Our transfer strategy has basically been to bring in players the manager has been interested in, coached or trained with in the past. That extremely limits the pool of players we can actually sign. And you're asking me how's he incompetent. The strategy has basically been 'Give him want he wants so they don't say we didn't back him'. They aren't really concerned as to if it really works. Just anything to appease the fans for now. No real pushbacks or anything. We needed a right winger and Ten Hag's choice was Antony. A player that looked like he wasn't even worth 60m. What did they end up doing? The new DOF was supposed to help bring in players that fit in a long term plan for the club. But our midfield target profile went from a Dejong to Mount in the space of a year. What's actually been the impact of the 'DOF' in the team so far? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:10pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
eph12:My problem isn't really the owners as much (or maybe it is because they have to take responsibility), my problem is around the competence of the people they've recruited to identify and complete transfers. They have not shown very much competence or ingenuity, cluelessness is what I see. Maybe we have good scouts identifying good players but the people at the top making the final decisions do not actually understand what makes a good player, what fits, what doesn't. they don't know what terms to offer in the contract, what players are worth, the wages to pay, nor do they know when a player should be moved on. They don't know when to start looking for replacements, or even what players needs replacement? They neither know how to negotiate sells, nor how to negotiate acquisitions. we're always fleeced during acquisitions and during sells. Or maybe the cluelessness runs farther down and we don't even have competent scouts identifying fitting talents in the first place. So my issue is with competence, not owners. The owners are responsible for who they appoint, if I start seeing signs of competence then I won't have problems with the owners. A manager needs sound structure to succeed. the club needs sound structure to succeed. The Glazers can probably offer that, but I wouldn't hold my hopes high. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:12pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
AdisaOwala:Tell you what? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:13pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
How does Real Madrid do transfers, is this all Perez? He must really really understand football and Madrid if it's all him. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:16pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
What Man Utd needs is a big shake up of the entire top management. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 7:17pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna: Who we had na |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 7:26pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Jokerman: If you see Gun right nw, you fit kill eth ?? ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:30pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
ChristoBam:How does our recruitment strategy being bringing the people ETH has coached incompetence on ETH's side? is he in-charge of our recruitment? Obviously he has say on who we sign (according to him it's 50:50 veto power), but he doesn't sit analysing thousands of players to sign, we should have a system that identifies the right players and presents him with a few list he can deliberate on, maybe he can then personally scout those players to find the perfect fit. If the structure doesn't work right do you expect ETH to leave his job and become a scout? If he falls back to players he's familiar with because dem no dey present am with obviously better players then no be incompetence on Ten Hang's side. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:31pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
AdisaOwala:If u don't know abeg leave am, I no get strength for back and forth. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ballzproblem2: 7:39pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna:no dey have a head scout I forgotten that his name. the guy responsible for bringing vinicius,rodrygo,camavinga, tchounami ,endrick. Perez own is just to approve the deals. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kozmicity: 7:39pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
main24: No. Not you. I meant I can bring out posts from last season to show you the entire argument. I didn't mean to say you posted about them. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 7:55pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna:Bruh look at my previous posts. We're on the same side naππ |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 7:56pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
kozmicity:Leave them to troll. I guess it was just sentimental argument then. DDG saved/carried us last season (except his bad days, lol), while Rashford was doing his on the other end. ![]() ![]() Our current sh1tty performance has nothing to do with the goal keeper (Onana), for now. If we fix our infield plays before we can evaluate the goal keeper. No sentiments, just enjoy the game. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:56pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Ballzproblem2:The guy is really good, whoever he is. And Perez must be good as well to consistently make the right choice in who he agrees to, I imagine they always have a pool. if they don't then Perez must have narrowed down the specifics they should look for into very specific details. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:57pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
ChristoBam:Friendly fire, no vex ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 8:01pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Ballzproblem2:They'r literally playing without a striker because of their long-term plan to bring in Mbappe. They totally brought in replacements for their midfield while Modric/Kroos are still performing real good. When everything finally clicks, it looks like magic. That's long term planning that'll yield results regardless of the manager in charge. Unlike at Man Utd, if someone like Zidane comes in, how many of Ten Hag signings can you guess will be binned? Do these ones not think about these things or are they just soooo clueless? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 8:02pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna: No, it is the manager that is both coaching and scouting ![]() ![]() Shoutout to all those that believe a winning team is simply because the Manager is great. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 8:03pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna: Haha You no get the mind to talk am? Me no dey assume unnecessarily o |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YourBestWriter: 8:17pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
I so much like this player. I like his mentality. For me, he is one of about five players that are world class in that manutd squad. The rest are average
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:31pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
main24:I don't care about short term gains |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 8:35pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
This one thinks Madrid spending big amount of money on tchouameni, Bellingham, 17 years old Endrick and Mbappe etc is some sort of genius move. Chelsea spending 200million plus on Caicedo and Enzo must be a genius move by Bohley π€£ |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YourBestWriter: 8:43pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Five world class players currently in manutd. The rest are either average or fading (varane). 1. Rasmus Hojlund 2. Alejandro Garnacho 3. Casemiro 4. Amrabat 5. Lisandro Martinez 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 8:45pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
melodyogonna:Explain exactly how Madrid transfer strategy is some sort of genius planning lol. Go and repeat this line in the Madrid section and see if they won't use wire to flog your neck π |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 8:45pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Trevor012:It's hilarious you think you just made sense. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 8:46pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
ChristoBam:Go and continue writing your meaningless epistles. |
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