₦airaland Forum

ednut1:
last response to you. How can you compare citizens of a country covered under the Nafta agreement and illegal immigration Same you still mentioned asylum like which Canadian go applies for asylum 🤣🤣🤣Dude

ednut1:
a doctor earning over 200k euros a year is a slave? If they check your bank account now na 25k naira go dey there

ednut1:
says who If your occupation is in demand there you will easily get a job. Some will offer you relocation expenses. I have friends and colleagues that have moved to the USA. Mostly tech, nurses and accountants

ednut1:
with a job offer you can apply for work permit at the border
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/employment/visas-canadian-mexican-nafta-professional-workers.html

MCentral:
https://moneycentral.com.ng/markets/article/immigrants-exit-canada-on-poor-housing-healthcare-job-prospects/

CoronaVirusPro:
Where are you going to get the job offer in the USA? Its very rare and not easy.

US companies don't like the process of filing for job applicants.

You think if it was that easy, all the illegal immigrant in the USA wouldn't have secured a job.

alphabbey1:
Do you even know the meaning of illegal immigrant.

studyless123:
You're wrong. That piece which originally was from Bloomberg yesterday was talking about Newcomers.
"New research suggests more newcomers to Canada have chosen to leave in recent years" Newcomers cannot move to US. It's even difficult to get an appointment from US embassy in Canada compared to Nigeria and it has been so for many years. Maybe you didn't read the piece but the theory is that what they expected was different from what they saw.

For the professionals, that is well known that Canadian citizens move to the US for more remuneration, less taxes and better healthcare.

sheeda995:
You have worked in Europe for 17years?Happy Slave

dealhunter:
You cannot become a Canada citizen in 3 yrs,you can get permanent resident after staying for 2yrs,full citizen with Canada passport after staying for 5yrs,not 3yrs.....

dealhunter:
You cannot become a Canada citizen in 3 yrs,you can get permanent resident after staying for 2yrs,full citizen with Canada passport after staying for 5yrs,not 3yrs.....

Kenn55:
Moving out of Canada to where? This should be the question. Immigrants are moving out of Canada but not back to the shithole or third world country they came from.

They are moving mostly to the US and the reason is obvious. You make more money in the US than Canada and the cost of living is slightly lower in the US than Canada. So once they get the Canadian passport which allows them to work in the US, they move to the US to earn better money. So Canada is losing a lot of talents to the US and unfortunately for Canada they can't compete with the US.

In my own circle of Nigerian professionals, 5 people I know have relocated to the US from Canada to get better money. I have been tempted to move to the US lately. In fact, 2 weeks ago, I turned down an offer to move at the dieing minute as my liver failed me. The reason why I don't want to live in the US is due to gun violence and their toxic politics in the age of Trump otherwise I would have joined that movement. I prefer Canada due to those reasons.

So when they say immigrants are leaving, they are leaving to the US using their Canadian citizenship. Canada bothering the US is both good and bad for them. The good thing is that because of trade with the US, they are 8th world largest economy despite being a country of 39million people but the bad thing is that Canadian citizens being able to work in the US means they will continue to lose talents to the US as the US presents a better option economically for immigrants

Kenn55:
You are interpreting the article as is which is okay but as someone on ground I'm now telling you there is more to it.

First of all, immigration to the west is a 3rd world adventure. Citizens of first world countries hardly migrate. You hardly see someone from say Finland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Japan, western Europe etc migrating to North America. Why would they do that when the standard of living in those countries are even better than ones in Canada or the US.

So who are those leaving? Is it the common man who migrated from India,China,Philippines,Pakistan,Nigeria etc? So they are going back to their country because all of a sudden, their country is now better than Canada? Why did they leave their country in the first place? Do you see Nigerians trooping back to Nigeria from Canada or are we not part of the newcomers?

I'm not saying people don't leave but not in any way like this article is trying to paint it. See, the opposition party has been critical of the current government immigration policy and has branded it a failure and they have a point. So it is not uncommon for someone who is angry with the government to push that narrative cos it is indirectly calling the government who is responsible for immigration a failure.

You can believe anything you want to believe sha.

Validated:
Do not mind them. Canada is for you to explore.
If you are lazy, do not bother because you are going to be competing with those smart guys from China, Korea, India, etc.

However as a Nigerian, you can never meet worse conditions than what you were used to at home. So if you see any Nigerian complaining, know they are lazy.

Getting great job requires that you are also smart. When you land, look out for how to buy a home. Avoid renting if you can, buy because after 6 months from purchase, the value of your house would have appreciated by about 25%-20%, especiallyin Ontario and Alberta. In 2 years, your networth would be staggering in the $m.

viodemus:
if you are not very skilled, America or all these places are not for you.


it is brutal hardwork, especially if you don't have any support. All that gov go support you when you get there, this and that, na wash. Remove, electricity, water, and the mostly ingrained ideology to respect the law; these places na wash.

its hard work, not assured work, it's hard work, sleepless nights, dealing with inconsiderate people from Nigeria that thinks you are only enjoying; dealing with racism, dealing with a new culture, one small crime eg traffic issue - can mess you up; etc.

japa is a good experience but not easy at all. Those countries citizens don't want you there.


If you notice, people that come back from japa especially America, no dey like talk too much. Some criminals among them -might not send, but for the hard workers even business owners, them no dey like talk too much. Dem humble. Wetin eyes dun see, wetin body dun feel, mouth no fit talk. Who no go, no go too know.

MCentral:
https://moneycentral.com.ng/markets/article/immigrants-exit-canada-on-poor-housing-healthcare-job-prospects/

ednut1:
a doctor earning over 200k euros a year is a slave? If they check your bank account now na 25k naira go dey there

fostermd:
This is my income bracket that someone is calling a slave.

ednut1:
its a probability. Because my colleagues in USA are earning more. But that gun violence wahala is making me scared. The first time i shot a real gun the smoke residue made me almost vomit. I now hate guns🤣. Just watched a video where neighbour argument over noise ended up in a man and his step son getting killed.

SIRTee15:
Your whole report itself na wash.
But I agree with the hard work part. So if u know u are lazy, stay back in naija.
As I always say, abroad no be for everybody. Some people are just too lazy n entitled that I wonder why they left naija in first place.

Kenn55:
No where is 100% good. Every country, system, policy, anything in this life etc comes with both positive and negatives.

The problem is that a lot of people don't even know what they want out of life and a lot of people also don't know how to analyze and evaluate issues.

A place,policy,country in short anything is said to be good if the positive outweighs the negative. That means you have to list all the positive and negatives and weigh them to see which outweighs the other and match it to your aspirations and ambitions of your life not another person's aspirations.

What happens is that most of us don't know what we want or just want everything. You can't have it all,choose your battle. For example, someone doesn't want to pay tax but want 24/7 light, water, good roads, world class infrastructure, quality education,quality healthcare,security etc, that is not possible, so you either stay where you don't pay taxes and manage whatever service you get and don't complain or you pay the tax, get the services and don't complain.

In Canada, whether you are jobless, homeless,rich poor etc, as long as you are a citizen or PR, your healthcare treatment is free of charge. My wife had a medical procedure of recent that would have cost us $17k if we were to pay but we paid nothing. This is one of the reasons why our taxes are higher than say USA cos of the universal health care funded by tax payers.

If people can just define what they want and make proper analysis, all these useless threads and complains on this forum will disappear

tensazangetsu20:
If you become a PR from Nigeria, citizenship is 3 years.

sheeda995:
You this low self esteem dude. Nairaland superstar, why you dey quote me. Maintain your lane and be doing your local champion jeje. I no get your time, those of us that know you are broke know you are broke. Better come back home,depression can kill

MT:
Canada is a brass covered in Gucci wrapper

johnson4nosa:
Please what about someone that went to Canada with visiting visa and seek for asylum what's his fate

ednut1:
yes i am broke. We know people like you. I just checked your old posts in 2017 you tried to japa but failed. Pele

Kenn55:
Moving out of Canada to where? This should be the question. Immigrants are moving out of Canada but not back to the shithole or third world country they came from.

T[b]hey are moving mostly to the US and the reason is obvious. You make more money in the US than Canada and the cost of living is slightly lower in the US than Canada. So once they get the Canadian passport which allows them to work in the US, they move to the US to earn better money. So Canada is losing a lot of talents to the US and unfortunately for Canada they can't compete with the US.[/b]

In my own circle of Nigerian professionals, 5 people I know have relocated to the US from Canada to get better money. I have been tempted to move to the US lately. In fact, 2 weeks ago, I turned down an offer to move at the dieing minute as my liver failed me. The reason why I don't want to live in the US is due to gun violence and their toxic politics in

So when they say immigrants are leaving, they are leaving to the US using their Canadian citizenship. Canada bothering the US is both good and bad for them. The good thing is that because of trade with the US, they are 8th world largest economy despite being a country of 39million people but the bad thing is that Canadian citizens being able to work in the US means they will continue to lose talents to the US as the US presents a better option economically for immigrants

Kenn55:
You can even keep renting instead of buying a house on mortgage if you hate loans so much but that doesn't make sense since houses are assets and not liabilities. Even though you owe money on a house, you can sell it and make profit when the time is right.

Note that an average oyibo doesn't care much about debt the way we do cos that is how they live from beginning and it's part of their lifestyle as built by their system. You talked about savings but note that these western countries are not built for savings but spending. Like I said before, it is the bedrock of their economy. Besides, the structure of their society coupled with fairly good governance makes savings not to be a big deal.

Why do people need savings? In case of emergency. What are the do or die emergencies? Loss of job, health, accidents, loss of shelter,life etc. The oyibo model is insure instead of savings. This is why insurance is one of the biggest industries in North America.

In this place, your insurance is your savings while in places like Nigeria, your savings is your insurance because of the model our society is run. You see the difference.

Why would an average oyibo be bothered much about savings when he has insured against all possible emergencies? Life, employment, health,home,car,accident and even pet sef dey get insurance. These insurance coverages cost money but because of their mentality, they embrace it but majority of us Africans will see it as a waste and instead save those money in the bank and that would form part of our "savings".

You asked a valid question but you need to understand how the society is built in order to properly navigate it. The choice to embrace the oyibo model or our Nigerian model or a little mixture of both is left for you.

ednut1:
yes i am broke. We know people like you. I just checked your old posts in 2017 you tried to japa but failed. Pele