Procashtips:


Oduduwa that fell from the sky never existed.

Izoduwa existed and was a banished prince from the Benin kingdom.

You have no brains

You still couldn't comprehend what was written?

Even if it's forcefully fed into your brain, it's still going to slip off.

Talk to me in private message.

Whose statements are we going to believe now?

But, the account of Oba Bamgbade was armed with facts.

Anybody who wants to claim someone existed needs to show some documents written by an eyewitness which talks about that person.
You can't magically discover an "oduduwa" with no eyewitness written documents to prove that there was such a person.

Stoplying:

Now you are putting words in my mouth.
I said Oduduwa never existed !
When quoting me, get the quote right !
Here it again: Oduduwa never existed, he is of the same reality as Spiderman!
When dealing with history, you have to prove what you say, not hide behind the fact that other people believe in your fairytale. History is not decided by votes, it is decided by the study of eyewitness written documents !

https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia?currency=EUR&variant=42258879840486&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&cmp_id=20303908446&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgqGrBhDtARIsAM5s0_l-nBpsH4W1fm0fxGh3__U9yguK_6gTWi4lkrWOgu8nZN5SqdxxifIaAphwEALw_wcB

Lol,so Oduduwa is no longer "Izoduwa",right ? You guys are getting there small,small,lol !

VEHINTOLAR:


Lol,so Oduduwa is no longer "Izoduwa",right ? You guys are getting there small,small,lol !

When did I mention "izoduwa"? look you are having a discussion with someone else and confusing him with me. I have been extremely clear.
Oduduwa is a fairytale. I don't know how to be clearer, obatala is s fairytale, oranmiyan is a fairytale, all of those are just like Spiderman.

Stoplying:

Talk to me in private message.

I don't have access to it.

You can drop your email or digits instead.

Bimpe29:
Whose statements are we going to believe now?

But, the account of Oba Bamgbade was armed with facts.

Go online and read old records/history as old as 50-800 years.

Do not let the noise sway you.

In the south west, they have up 1 million obas... Who takes such people serious?

Procashtips:


I don't have access to it.

You can drop your email or digits instead.

It would be flooded by these yarri.ba trolls.
Anyways, what I want to say is that we can not descend to the level of yarri.ba by discussing fairytales.
They do this because they have no history !
We do have history and can just bring up precolonial documents !
This is how we can end this cycle of shouting matches.
You reason like a scientist and bring out proof, therefore exposing the ignoramuses for what they are. You don't go down to their level of discussing fairytales. You would be doing them a favour by doing that.

Stoplying:

It would be flooded by these yarri.ba trolls.
Anyways, what I want to say is that we can not descend to the level of yarri.ba by discussing fairytales.
They do this because they have no history !
We do have history and can just bring up precolonial documents !

This is why I said it's not necessary, let them argue with history.

Do you know that even the word "Yoruba" was given to them by someone else?

They were never 1 till the 1900s.

scutches:
How can benin claim lagos…the original inhabitants of Lagos are the aworis. But during the reign of King Ado, benin people conquered the aworis and name the place eko which is like a war base for the benin people.
At the reign of another king, the Benin people were conquered and were chased to another quarters.
Because u conquered the original inhabitants and named the place means u are the owner of the land. Before the benin people came to trade because those days they are known for their trade prowess, there are original settlers.
So, for the fact that benin once fought and conquered the first and original settlers of Lagos and as that time name the place doesn’t mean that are the owner.
And even history says, the benin people were Lagos conquered by the aworis in returned.

They did not conquer the Aworis,go and read or listen to Oba Bamigbade again. He was quite explicit enough !

VEHINTOLAR:


They did not conquer the Aworis,go and read or listen to Oba Bamigbade again. He was quite explicit enough !

Again, just fairytales. No proof to back them up, their only backup is their mouths, yarri.ba. You guys are just fraudsters.
I bring pre-colonial documents, you bring your mouth and that of an other yarri.ba. How typical.

FreeStuffsNG:
This is an epic response.

Pride goeth before disgrace. See the kind of harsh ,hurtful, horrible words and invectives being used for the Oba of Benin. Smh.

The Ooni counselled same Oba of Benin against pride and vainglory attempt to revise history in order to give the bini credit that's false just to hype himself and the bini. Oonirisa is today vindicated.

According to Mujahideen Asari Dokubo, saying Benin founded Lagos shows how unintelligent some people are - THAT IS HISTORICAL PARASITISM - ASARI DOKUBO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgLTNhetuwQ?si=Glv69X2MR1I7EAZh. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Q0sJro0Ow/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Make una leave history like that, make una no distort am oo.. stupid set of people without concrete history..the fight will now to the Binis.
Asari their friend is not on their side this time 🤣🤣🤣.
All Yolubas should go back to Ekiti,Ondo Ogun,Osun and Ibadan Asaf, Binis own that land.
That's how Oduduwa abii one diety jump down from heaven and started impregnating every woman he see and that's how the yoluba tribe came about.
Coward Ronus.

Stoplying:

When did I mention "izoduwa"? look you are having a discussion with someone else and confusing him with me. I have been extremely clear.
Oduduwa is a fairytale. I don't know how to be clearer, obatala is s fairytale, oranmiyan is a fairytale, all of those are just like Spiderman.

Why don't you ask your fellow rats from that little hole called Benin who said so ? Why do you want to commit suicide on my mention while barking up and down like some rabbies infested dog at the same time ?!

Anyway,you can continue,your foolishness is a delight to behold,ode !

FreeStuffsNG:
This is an epic response.

Pride goeth before disgrace. See the kind of harsh ,hurtful, horrible words and invectives being used for the Oba of Benin. Smh.

The Ooni counselled same Oba of Benin against pride and vainglory attempt to revise history in order to give the bini credit that's false just to hype himself and the bini. Oonirisa is today vindicated.

According to Mujahideen Asari Dokubo, saying Benin founded Lagos shows how unintelligent some people are - THAT IS HISTORICAL PARASITISM - ASARI DOKUBO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgLTNhetuwQ?si=Glv69X2MR1I7EAZh. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Q0sJro0Ow/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Make una leave history like that, make una no distort am oo.. stupid set of people without concrete history..the fight will now to the Binis.
Asari their friend is not on their side this time 🤣🤣🤣.
All Yolubas should go back to Ekiti,Ondo Ogun,Osun and Ibadan Asaf, Binis own that land.
That's how Oduduwa abii one diety jump down from heaven and started impregnating every woman he see and that's how the yoluba tribe came about.
Coward Ronus...

Stoplying:

Again, just fairytales. No proof to back them up, their only backup is their mouths, yarri.ba. You guys are just fraudsters.
I bring pre-colonial documents, you bring your mouth and that of an other yarri.ba. How typical.

Attention seeker,continue wailing,let's see how a Bini man will become governor in Lagos or if your mumu skirt wearing ogiso masquerade will ever partake in the sharing of the Lagos State revenues or fed allocations! Bunch of evil forests dwelling cannibals from a tiny 2-LGA land,Arindin !

Iykenuwa:


The last Ogiso of Benin was his father.


To say the Benins have not answered that question is outright falsehood. I knew that story since the 80s.

The last Ogiso no get name?

Lagos, situated in the southwestern region and distinct from the Benin (Bini) stronghold in the south-south, bears witness to a historical migration that, while acknowledging the roots of settlers from Benin, refrains from conferring ownership. To assert dominion over Lagos solely based on migration parallels the fallacy of attributing discovery to Mungo Park in a pre-existing Nigeria. The geographical proximity of Akoko Ondo to Edo would have lent credence to such claims, yet Lagos, distant from Edo, remains rooted in its original ownership. The linguistic nuances, exemplified by the shared etymology of terms like 'Oba,' do not eclipse the rightful ownership vested in the geographical locale. Despite parallels like Upper Iweka in Gabon named by the Igbo, their acknowledgement refrains from asserting unwarranted ownership, a principle that transcends borders and echoes through the historical corridors of Lagos.

This is a correct King that knows the history of his fore father.

Not one that just come to claim what is not and couldn't give point to what he claimed.

The mornarchs in Lagos haves been quite a long time ago, thank God they are coming out to rebuke the fallacy of one oba of Benin.

RonuRonu:
Lagos belongs to Benin, period

No be only period, it is Frequency.

FreeStuffsNG:


https://punchng.com/youre-wrong-aworis-are-lagos-first-settlers-lagos-monarch-counters-oba-of-benin/

this guy de smell , e never baff , oba never give am soap

Shattuck:
neither the aworis nor the binis can lay claim to the entire Lagos, the aworis had their territory in Lagos the binis also had their territory, Lagos is a state just like osun, just like you have the Ooni of ife who governs the ife territory of osun state, there are also other traditional rulers in the same osun, you can't come today and claim the ancestors of the Ooni founded osun state they only founded ife, same can be said about Lagos and how you guys always try to make it look like the aworis controlled the entire Lagos, the binis also had their territory, which means the oba isn't wrong.

Na you give the Benin the territory they have?

KoshCAD:
Na you give the Benin the territory they have?

Precolonial map of west Africa showing that Lagos is a part of Benin:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2

Instead of talking all sorts of nonesense, just bring proof. I have been doing this since page 5, but you guys seem to go blind each time I bring proof.
Proof-based talk rather than insult-and-feelings-based talk.

I think a civil war is coming in Nigeria. I'm buying my plane ticket to come and fight.

Oba Gha tokpere!
Isse !

Stoplying:
At least all Edo people who thought the yorubas were our friends will finally open their eyes.
All that talk of "sophisticated" tribe has been blown away. Finally my people will unite and see our enemies for whom they are.
You disrespect the Oba, you've disrespected all of us, you don't know us. You think you do, but you will soon learn what EMPEROR actually means.
You guys mistakenly think Benin city is the extent of Benin kingdom 😂
Benin city is only the capital of Benin kingdom !
Now we know you guys, don't you come up claiming "the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man" ever again !
You've shown your true colours once again !

Where is Oyo in your map? Where is Bornu in your map?

Are you saying there were no Oyo or Bornu empires in so called 1700th?

Your map is fake.

Stoplying:

Precolonial map of west Africa showing that Lagos is a part of Benin:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2

Instead of talking all sorts of nonesense, just bring proof. I have been doing this since page 5, but you guys seem to go blind each time I bring proof.
Proof-based talk rather than insult-and-feelings-based talk.

When was Lagos founded? In 17th century? Your map doesn't prove anything.

The argument is, when was Lagos...Eko founded? Not who conquered Lagos or whatever.

Besides, your Benin King na Yoruba man.

forgiveness:



Where is Oyo in your map? Where is Bornu in your map?

Are you saying there was no Oyo or Bornu empires in so called 1700th?

Your map is fake.

I gave the link of the website hosting the map.
It was published in 1747, I wasn't born yet, so asking me questions about the map is a stupid thing to do.

But let me help you to use your brain:
1. You are judging the map by your unsubstantiated beliefs. You are supposed to judge your unsubstantiated beliefs with help from the map. Because the map was drawn by a person who witnessed 1747. Your beliefs however are just beliefs.
2. Have you thought of the fact that countries are born, they don't exist right from the begining of time. Countries break up and give place to other countries. Take a look at a map of Europe from 1400, you will see that you can't find some countries of today and you will find countries which do not exist today.
3. The map is not fake, you just don't reason properly.

Omobude244:

did the yorubas developed Lagos?

Lagos was and it is still a Nigeria project

so the communities in Abuja now will now be claiming they developed Abuja abi?

but why is it only ibos that care so much about Lagos since Lagos is Nigeria project

Life no suppose to hard like that

Go and develop your land

goodnessme1:
Why's nobody claiming osun and Ogun State.
Ooooooh because they are undeveloped.



Why are you yorus advising and attacking Igbos when the issues is about Benins.

because the benin do not care like you ibos do. Also you are the ones instigating them

Please o

Where did you see Yorubas deny the states you mentioned?

Procashtips:


To the Yoruba, he's a fairly tale because they claimed he fell from the sky with chains and whatever.

To he Benins, he was a banished prince, hence the chains he was found in.

So tell me, did your ancestor fall from the sky?

Oduduwa was real. Nothing like fairy tales.

He became a diety after his death due to their believe.

Nothing like prince in Edo land. You only had Ogiso and you were called Igodomigodo not Benin which is corruption of Ule Ibinu in Yoruba.

forgiveness:


Oduduwa was real. Nothing like fairy tales.

He became a diety after his death due to their believe.

Nothing like prince in Edo land. You only had Ogiso and you were called Igodomigodo not Benin which is corruption of Ule Ibinu in Yoruba.

Of course, you claim a map published in 1747 to be fake because it doesn't show things which exist today (2023). Then you go and claim oduduwa fairytales and igodomigodo and ogiso fairytales are real.
So as I thought, you see proof and you say it is fake, you see fairytales and say it is real.

Your lack of proper education is a crime against humanity. You are the opposite of what an intelligent person is.

Stoplying:

I gave the link of the website hosting the map.
It was published in 1747, I wasn't born yet, so asking me questions about the map is a stupid thing to do.

But let me help you to use your brain:
1. You are judging the map by your unsubstantiated beliefs. You are supposed to judge your unsubstantiated beliefs with help from the map. Because the map was drawn by a person who witnessed 1747. Your beliefs however are just beliefs.
2. Have you thought of the fact that countries are born, they don't exist right from the begining of time. Countries break up and give place to other countries. Take a look at a map of Europe from 1400, you will see that you can't find some countries of today and you will find countries which do not exist today.
3. The map is not fake, you just don't reason properly.

You map is fake.

See another map showing Ijebu Kingdom and Awori spelt Aweri in the same 1745. Thief.

Now, this map will clear your brain from your unsubstantiated ignorance.

Tito24:
but why is it only ibos that care so much about Lagos since Lagos is Nigeria project

Life no suppose to hard like that

Go and develop your land

oga i am not igbo

I be edo boy and we own part of Lagos too.

the yorubas should go and develop ondo and osun, that is when we will take u guys serious.
not to dey shout Lagos Lagos upandan
same lagos that u didnt build
mumu man