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Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Padipadi: 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Ok. I go obey Jesus. But I ll still go with some nukes! |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Ever8090: 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Jehovah witness sermon I guess |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: It's the same kingdom but different destination. The rulers will live with the King in heaven {Matthew 5:3} while the subjects will live on planet earth! Matthew 5:5 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:08pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Padipadi: To obey Jesus is very simple because you will clearly notice those who are humbly looking for the truth and those who just want their opinions approved! Malachi 3:16-18 So just humbly obey Jesus' words CAREFULLY and you won't miss the path to life! Matthew 7:13-14 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Ever8090: It's not a sermon rather response to someone's question of course i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses! 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Padipadi: 12:10pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Do you want me to score own goal like Harry Maguire? I ll nuke you o! Carry nukes. It's a survival advise to all Christians. As you preach the gospel, pray, be watchful & carry nukes! |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 12:10pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
nkemoma: |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 12:13pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: We know Jesus didn't follow the steps of "Jehovah's organization" in saying what christendom teach is falsehood only for the same Jesus to turn 360 to say what he calls falsehood is truth |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by kkins25(m): 12:29pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
You can never Know god just like you can never know his will. You can only know god through men that claim they had a chat with god, therefore, you must listen to them. Plus, you have to donate a portion of your income so they don't have to work while they focus on sending you messages from the most high. The believe in god is the grand delusion! An even greater delusion? These believes are carried fervently about by people who were destroyed spiritually--ironically, by the messengers of so called god. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 12:37pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Oh you now agree it's the same kingdom that Jesus was talking about right? Now we are making the same point. Jesus Christ said to enter his kingdom you need to be born again. He was talking about his kingdom not a destination. Please read John 5 and point out where he mentioned destination? Again, if you read your Bible, it says except a man be born again. It did not say except a Jew be born again. And John 5.3 never mentioned earth or heaven Also, you quoted Matthew 5 verse 3 and 5 but you forget that the same people that inherit the earth would also inherit heaven. It's possible for a man to be both poor in spirit and meek. In fact a Christian who is poor in spirit would most likely be meek 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by jnrbayano(m): 12:55pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Deep! |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Saspi718: 12:56pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
To know God means to discover WHO YOU ARE TO HIM. Mathew 5:3 says that God blesses those who realize that their lives were totally dependant on God, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (which is Jesus Christ). Luke 15:17 says the prodigal son realized himself & saw how his life was totally dependant on the father. That's what it means to know. To know HIM is to know what you're born to do. Click the link below for more info: https://www.amazon.com/POWER-SELF-DISCOVERY-cornerstone-prosperity-resilience-ebook/dp/B0CC2BB4KQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=P8LNGAXGIPF4&keywords=ifeanyichukwu+george&qid=1699128869&sprefix=ifeanyichu%2Caps%2C4092&sr=8-5 |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by solex75(m): 12:58pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: JW. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by SeriouslySense(m): 1:04pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
To know God and to know the one he sent, Jesus Chirst, is eternal Life, and how is that. By knowing that JEsus is God who became flesh and took our sin away, that we may have life, and to know God by having a relationship with God, by creating time for God to study his word, to speak to him based on his word, to understand his precept and to accept his salvation. First we believe becaue we heard and we speak acceptance of his salvation and then we live by abidding in his word. We also received his Holy Spirit, who seals us, and garantees our eternal salvation. If you abide in his word, then you know the promises, on the last day, Jesus will give eternal life to those who believed in him, because we have been purchased by his blood and sealed by his Spirit. tctrills: |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 1:22pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: You see the same person saying 1. Big fat lie 2. Misconstrued 3. Deceiving yourself Now he is back to say you are saying the same thing See the reason they will continue to advance that belief they hold.... 6 On the basis of Christ’s sacrifice, Jehovah forgives the sins of those who exercise faith. He accepts as his worshippers those who dedicate themselves to him. Jehovah declares anointed Christians righteous as his sons and those of the “other sheep” righteous as his friends. (John 10:16; Rom. 5:1, 2; Jas. 2:21-25) So even now, the ransom enables us to have a righteous standing with our Father and to share in the sanctification of his name. Where in the bible did we see some are declared righteous as sons while others are declared righteous as friends?
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Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by ojobek: 1:31pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
SoJesus is not God again,you also refer to God and Jesus as persons.Conyinue! MaxInDHouse: |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Kei144(m): 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
He. 3:10 That is why I was angry with that generation, and I said, `Their hearts are always going astray, and they have not known my ways.’ He. 3:11 So I declared on oath in my anger, `They shall never enter my rest.’“ [Psalm 95:7-11] If somebody comes to you and tells you that I did this thing or that thing and you are not in a position to tell that person whether or not I am capable of doing what s/he claimed that I did, then you do not know me well. You do not know my ways. To know God simply means to know His ways. And anyone who does not know the ways of God cannot enter His rest. What are the ways of God? Ro. 4:17 As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” [Gen. 17:5] He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed — the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were. God gives life to the dead by calling things that are not as though they were. If you understand Ro. 4:17 well, you can easily enter God's rest, which means that you can rest from all your troubles and give rest to other people who are in trouble. God gives life to the dead by speaking His words. You can give life to the dead things in your life or in other people's lives by speaking words of God. Jn. 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn. 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. Jn. 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jn. 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. Christians mistakenly replace "the Word" in John chapter 1 with "Jesus", but that is not right. In Jn. 1:14, we read that the Word became flesh, which doesn't mean that the Word materialized into the man Jesus, rathet it means that the Word possessed Jesus just as some spirits possess human beings. Jn. 1:4 clearly says that in the Word is life; so, when God wants to give life to the dead, He speaks His word. Any human being who understands that ways of God can give life to the dead by speaking words of God. Ge. 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Ge. 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. In Ge. 1:2 we see a dead situation; characterized by formlessness, emptiness and darkness. The puzzling thing is that the Holy Spirit was in that situation and yet the situation remained dead indefinitely. That was until God spoke into the situation: "Let there be light." The same Holy Spirit that had been there all the time suddenly established light in the situation and everything became good and lively. So, you see that in order to give life to the dead, the Holy Spirit must be present and appropriate word of God must be uttered by somebody. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:08pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: Jesus often speak in Parables but @ Matthew 5:3 & 5 he expressly stated where the two blessed groups will be. Heaven for the first group and earth for the second group. The first group will be resurrected first that's why they're not to go with flesh and blood (physical body) but the second group will be resurrected later and their destination is planet earth. That's the reason for double resurrection! 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 2:15pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Matthew 5 said nothing about the first or second group to be resurrected. I guess you are using a different kind of bible. Matthew 5 did not even talk about resurrection. Also, Jesus Christ speaks in parable but not in dishonesty. If he says you can't enter the kingdom of God without being born again, let me and you believe him. He does not lie. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by justmondris: 2:31pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Knowing someone does not mean you know everything about them 100%. Only God knows everyone 100% and there are somethings you don't even know about yourself. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:31pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: First and Second resurrection! Revelations 20:5-6 God's Kingdom Jesus talked about among the Jews is the first family that will rule with him so most of his words to the Jews is about those who are going to rule with him in heaven it's his disciples that will go and preach to other nations about everlasting life on planet earth. That's why he clearly stated that some will go to heaven {Matthew 5:3} while others will live on planet earth! Matthew 5:5 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:36pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
justmondris: Did i say you have to know EVERYTHING? Come on a friend of God must be a preacher and teacher of God's word that's what Jesus is making of those that become his disciples {Matthew 28:18-20} so if you can't answer all the questions that the answers are in the Bible regarding God and Jesus then your salvation is not certain that's what Jesus meant at John 17:3 You must be a fully competent and completely equiped preacher and teacher of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by justmondris: 2:46pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't need to be a preacher or pastor to be a friend of God. alot of people that do this are even enemies of God. Abraham was called friend of God in the bible but he was never a preacher. Jesus is more than a friend of God. He is a son of God. Let me drop some bible verses for you to read and understand: 1: James 2:23, “And the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God.” 2: James 4:4 4You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 2:54pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Matthew 5 has nothing to do with revelations 20.5-6. You are making strange nonexistent connections. And in God's kingdom, the Jews and gentiles are one. They have the same hope. Still this does not make Jesus a liar. If you are not born again, you can't be in his kingdom, you can't be in his kingdom on earth or his kingdom in heaven or in any other planet. He actually made himself clear. He never said you need to be born again to enter a kingdom in heaven but not on earth. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:59pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
justmondris: Hmmmmmmm you're missing a lot my friend. God choose Abraham out of all the people of his time so are you saying all others are evil? NO! There is a reason why God chose Abraham as friend. But after Jesus whoever wants to become a friend of God must first become a friend of Jesus and to become Jesus' friend you must be a preacher and teacher of God's word. That's what being his disciple mean! 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: So was the thief BORN AGAIN? Luke 23:40-43 Remember he was never baptized in water nor with holy spirit {John 3:3-5} are you saying Jesus lied to that man? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by icemania: 3:16pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tctrills: It means that Jesus has a God! So I wonder, why do you worship him? |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by liveyourlife007(m): 3:23pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Who did God kill? Cos I'm confused why you're comparing Him to a killer 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
icemania: That's why Jesus said they need to know God and Jesus before they can have everlasting life {John 17:3} because worshiping Jesus as God means the worshiper doesn't know Jesus nor God. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
liveyourlife007: I used the case to help readers know how sensitive that question is. Most religionists do believe that God kills that's why they often say God gives and takes when someone dies as if God kills. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by liveyourlife007(m): 3:31pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: I understand. I believe anyone God kills deserves death 1 Like |
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