hustla:



Omo, nawa for them o!

Will the increment apply to those seeking sponsorship? does it mean that man has to earn at least 38k to be eligible for sponsorship application if one isn't in healthcare?

In a nutshell, yes

They are also scrapping the 20% discount on shortage occupation roles (outside healthcare), which means they also have to earn 38k

Zahra29:


In a nutshell, yes

They are also scrapping the 20% discount on shortage occupation roles (outside healthcare), which means they also have to earn 38k

Well, looking at the bright side, employers will probably have to increase salaries to meet up

hustla:



Well, looking at the bright side, employers will probably have to increase salaries to meet up

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Exactly...it will force higher wages for jobs outside healthcare

Zahra29:


Defo lol. Nurses, doctors and other medical personnel are the only immigrant group to come out unscathed from today's announcement.

Filipino nurses even got a special mention in parliament

Sorry to bother you
Please Does this also affect the spouse of an health care worker who is already there?
Say the wife is a nurse and husband is there with her since nurses are exempted is the husband safe or the husband will also be affected at the time of visa renewal?
I mean will the minimum wage 38k applies to the spouse?

Zahra29:


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Exactly...it will force higher wages for jobs outside healthcare

We wait

Mehn! These guys no dey play at all

And as it currently stands .. If the applicant has children, an additional £3,800 per year is needed for the first child and an additional £2,400 for each subsequent child. If this is carried over, minimum income for an applicant with 2 kids will be £44,900

Zahra29:
Breaking: James Cleverly announces new five-point plan on migration
James Cleverly said the public are “understandably worried” about housing, GP appointments and other public services when communities are “growing quickly in numbers”.

The Home Secretary went on to announce a five-point plan:

Stopping overseas care workers from bringing family dependents
Increasing the skilled worker earning threshold by a third, to £38,700 from next spring
Scrapping cut-price shortage labour from overseas by reforming the shortage occupation list
Raising the minimum income for family visas to the same threshold as skilled workers (£38,700)
Reviewing the graduate route “to prevent abuse” and protect the quality of the university sector

hustla:


It won't

LOOL. But they wont be allowed to bring in dependents anymore. Very funny people

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeRV97cw/

So married nurses /hca will leave their families in Naija for 5 years.

They should continue

we going to Justin Trudeau land

hustla:


Healthcare is not the only field as I have said many times. There will soon be shortage and they'll come and cry and blame immigrants as usual

Abi no be so

We come in and do the jobs they dont want to do. They will complain.

We do the jobs they cant do like being a doctor, surgeon. They will complain.

What exactly is their issue with migrant?

Zahra29:


Cleverly was asked about this and his response was that they were not forcing anyone to leave their families to come to the UK. He said they had "crunched up the numbers" and they felt there was enough global demand from people wanting to work in care who don't have any dependants

single people its your turn to shine

olril17:

Sorry to bother you
Please Does this also affect the spouse of an health care worker who is already there?
Say the wife is a nurse and husband is there with her since nurses are exempted is the husband safe or[b] the husband will also be affected at the time of visa renewal?
I mean will the minimum wage 38k applies to the spouse?[/b]

No, the spouse of a nurse is exempt from the dependant restrictions and new salary threshold.

lavida001:


We come in and do the jobs they dont want to do. They will complain.

We do the jobs they cant do like being a doctor, surgeon. They will complain.

What exactly is their issue with migrant?

Lol, no one complained about surgeons, doctors, nurses. That's why they are unaffected by the new immigration rules.

Bourne007:
Mehn! These guys no dey play at all

And as it currently stands .. If the applicant has children, an additional £3,800 per year is needed for the first child and an additional £2,400 for each subsequent child. If this is carried over, minimum income for an applicant with 2 kids will be £44,900

Yes, it's crazy. I remember the uproar when they implemented the £18,600 threshold for the first time 10 years ago. So many British and settled families were affected, this new threshold is something else tbh.

Zahra29…. What’s the fate of people with dependents here on visa renewal after in about 2 years or so?

This their confusion is confusing oo…

Will they ask their dependents to return home during renewal??😹😹😹

Zahra29:


Lol, no one complained about surgeons, doctors, nurses. That's why they are unaffected by the new immigration rules.

Zahra29:


Lol, no one complained about surgeons, doctors, nurses. That's why they are unaffected by the new immigration rules.

No its because they dont have replacement for those jobs they cant do.

Zahra29:


No, the spouse of a nurse is exempt from the dependant restrictions and new salary threshold.

Thanks so much.

AKALAMAGBO:
Zahra29…. What’s the fate of people with dependents here on visa renewal after in about 2 years or so?

This their confusion is confusing oo…

Will they ask their dependents to return home during renewal??😹😹😹

Although the announcements are based on broad policies and not detailed regulations, a careful analysis of the words will suggest that it will target "bringing people into the UK" as opposed to those who are already here.

lavida001:


We come in and do the jobs they dont want to do. They will complain.

We do the jobs they cant do like being a doctor, surgeon. They will complain.

What exactly is their issue with migrant?

Its the devil's work sir

AKALAMAGBO:
Zahra29…. What’s the fate of people with dependents here on visa renewal after in about 2 years or so?

This their confusion is confusing oo…

Will they ask their dependents to return home during renewal??😹😹😹

My guess is no as long as they are extending their original visa and conditions and not applying for a new cos/ care visa.

The danger might be if they have to apply to update their visa, e.g. due to a change of sponsorship, then they might be assessed under the new rules and might not be able to add dependants to the new visa.

vikaosi:


Although the announcements are based on broad policies and not detailed regulations, a careful analysis of the words will suggest that it will target "bringing people into the UK" as opposed to those who are already here.

You are taking British people by their words ?

vikaosi:


Although the announcements are based on broad policies and not detailed regulations, a careful analysis of the words will suggest that it will target "bringing people into the UK" as opposed to those who are already here.

Don’t assume o until you see everything in black and white

lIn the year ending September 2023, 101,000 Health and Care visas were issued to care workers and senior care workers, with an estimated 120,000 visas granted to associated dependants, the majority of whom we estimate don’t work, but still make use of public services.

How about their people who have never work a day I. Their life and uses public services and still gets universal credit.

I don’t really blame them. Na we we no fit build our own country I blame.

Zahra29:


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Exactly...it will force higher wages for jobs outside healthcare

In which economy?

vikaosi:


Although the announcements are based on broad policies and not detailed regulations, a careful analysis of the words will suggest that it will target "bringing people into the UK" as opposed to those who are already here.

People already here and on a work visa.

Someone who is here, but not already on a care visa, will face the same restrictions as someone applying out of country from next year because the statistics do not make the distinction between those who applied for a work visa in the UK Vs outside the UK. It counts work visas the same way.

Bourne007:
Mehn! These guys no dey play at all

And as it currently stands .. If the applicant has children, an additional £3,800 per year is needed for the first child and an additional £2,400 for each subsequent child. If this is carried over, minimum income for an applicant with 2 kids will be £44,900

Thank God for Aunty Suella, she really did a wonderful job we should all be proud of!

We never see anything at all!

I remember as well which the court upheld the idea of the min income rule. Applicants applying in-country weren't eligible for the 5 year route end up going through the 10 year route as them no fit deny or deport based on private life. It is well

Zahra29:


Yes, it's crazy. I remember the uproar when they implemented the £18,600 threshold for the first time 10 years ago. So many British and settled families were affected, this new threshold is something else tbh.

Goke7:


In which economy?

A company that could previously pay a foreign worker £26.8k will now have the option of paying the same worker approx £39k to sponsor them or increasing the salary to around e.g. £30k to attract more domestic workers.

So they will be forced to pay more, if they still want to recruit, but want to avoid paying £39k

lavida001:
lIn the year ending September 2023, 101,000 Health and Care visas were issued to care workers and senior care workers, with an estimated 120,000 visas granted to associated dependants, the majority of whom we estimate don’t work, but still make use of public services.

How about their people who have never work a day I. Their life and uses public services and still gets universal credit.

I don’t really blame them. Na we we no fit build our own country I blame.

I think there is no point for such a comparison.

Zahra29:


People already here and on a work visa.

Someone who is here, but not already on a care visa, will face the same restrictions as someone applying out of country from next year because the statistics do not make the distinction between those who applied for a work visa in the UK Vs outside the UK. It counts work visas the same way.

As we wait for the details, I belive that the target are those yet to be in the UK. People already here, once they meet the threshold should be able to keep their families. The policy will not apply retrogressively. They should be able to transition into work visas and transition the status of their dependents without having to break up families, ie, applicants remaining and dependents forced to go home. This will be hard to imagine asking people to throw away their dependents already here.

I wouldn't go that far LOL .. . In-country applicants will be fine. Las las them go use 10-year route. Unfortunately It will be harder for out-country applicants sha if the new min income isn't met.

Goke7:


Thank God for Aunty Suella, she really did a wonderful job we should all be proud of!

We never see anything at all!

Zahra29:


People already here and on a work visa.

Someone who is here, but not already on a care visa, will face the same restrictions as someone applying out of country from next year because the statistics do not make the distinction between those who applied for a work visa in the UK Vs outside the UK. It counts work visas the same way.

The verified home office twitter page talks about overseas care workers bringing family. Its still confusing if its within or outside.

Progressivegee:



The verified home office twitter page talks about overseas care workers bringing family. Its still confusing if its within or outside.

International students who are studying in the UK are called overseas students, even though they are in the UK

Same terminology applies to workers on a visa. They are referred to as overseas care workers etc even if they are applying from the UK

lavida001:


single people its your turn to shine

How exactly?