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BeverIyjean:
which brand of weed do you take?

I don't smoke sir.

Kobojunkie:
Na so una forefathers conclude say SickleCell children na Abikus and Ogbanjes!

2. Was it the same doctor who carried out the CS procedures on your sisters?

Spiritual things are meant to be experienced and understood by the chosen few

BeverIyjean:
please bro can you kindly create a thread on it?

My schedule won't allow me dear

Epiphany7:
■ Spiritual things are meant to be experienced and understood by the chosen few

Chosen by whom?

musicwriter:
Consciousness is a DEFAULT for life even on planets without us, in fact, things like fire is conscious of itself as fire.

Water is conscious of itself as water.

Air is conscious of itself as air.

ETC.

They become aware of each other when you pour that water on fire.

Water, Air and fire are inanimate things, they do not have brains or emotions.


You are talking jargon.
Do you know that , if there is a purpose or function than there is a design and hence a designer?

blueAgent:
Water, Air and fire are inanimate things, they do not have brains or emotions.


You are talking jargon.
Do you know that , if there is a purpose or function than there is a design and hence a designer?

Design doesn't mean designed by your bible God. Your bible God doesn't exist and couldn't have designed anything.

Jackanda1:
Is Ruqiyah a pastor?

That's how excorcisms are called in Islam. I am a Muslim.

musicwriter:
Design doesn't mean designed by your bible God. Your bible God doesn't exist and couldn't have designed anything.

So who is the designer?

rhames:
■ That's how excorcisms are called in Islam. I am a Muslim.

Since when did exorcism become a part of Islam?

blueAgent:
So who is the designer?

It's a design that exists naturally like when you throw a coin down the ocean, it would carve out (design) it's perfect resting spot down the ocean bed without your help.

IAmHim1:
You have to understand that Jesus was not sent by God to die for anyone sin. God sent his son to teach about him so people can understand his laws and who better to pick than his son. Humans killed Jesus and then covered it up saying he came to shed his blood for us

Listen ..death can only happen in three ways

Murder
Suicide
Accident

Now tell me, which does Jesus own fall into ?

I refer to to check gofuckyourself threads for more insight. Ps: the moniker is a red herring for a purpose

Your epiphany right there

Your analysis are absolutely ok. But I am not a Christian. I simply agree with the teachings of Christ on loving your neighbor as yourself. I am not particularly concerned about his existence or cause of death. It has no impact on me. But I agree with his teachings. Everyone truth seeker believes love is the only religion.

Kobojunkie:
Chosen by whom?

I know you yearn for knowledge but you gotta be polite while at it bro

Kobojunkie:
Since when did exorcism become a part of Islam?

It's always been there in every religion including Islam. There are specific verses and chapters devoted solely for that purposes.

Go to videos on YouTube and search Ruqiyah. You will see how it is done the Islamic way.

Cheers.

musicwriter:
It's a design that exists naturally like when you throw a coin down the ocean, it would carve out (design) it's perfect resting spot down the ocean bed without your help.

Story teller.

So why do cars computers,Aircraft, TV,Phones e.t.c do not occur naturally?

blueAgent:
Story teller.

So why do cars computers,Aircraft, TV,Phones e.t.c do not occur naturally?

Because nature doesn't have what it takes to design them.

kingkelvin2033:
1. Nigerian atheists are often more than not as a result of trauma, abuse, depression, poverty or general frustration with life.

2. If you meet a true atheist, he will sharpen your thinking without discrediting your own beliefs.


3. We have debated with highly well placed atheists from around the world Europeans Russians, Israelis Americans Britons and Italians.

4. The ones I love the most among them are the agnostic atheists.

They are the most brutally honest and so most easily earn my respect.

5. For both the man that says he's absolutely certain there is a God and the man that says there is no God are fools!

6. The man that believes he is certain without proof to himself and others is a fool believing himself wise.

You can't be certain of either.

7. So why do you Nairaland atheists go around threads to prove the unproveable?


both sides of the argument can't be disproved by the current evolution of man (homo sapiens)

At least 2 higher evolutions will come before man can be truly certain of these things.

Anyone believing himself certain in matters like this is not being honest with himself.

You know nothing particularly when you are in the evolution of man that still prioritizes survival over wisdom.



8. I believe in the supernatural
I see it everyday
I do it everyday
I've taught in the past.
Some time in the future we shall teach more men to move in the supernatural.

9. The fake atheists are the people who are frustrated with God of with the idea of God and will do anything to prove their arrogance.

10. summary : both theists and atheists are ignorant.

11. but the individuals from any of both camps could be showcasing their arrogance by making it look like one side is ignorant while their own camp is 'enlightened '

@1. What you said up there has no statistical data to back it up. And I'm very sure you do not know any atheist face to face to be sure that such became an atheist due to any of the reasons you have stated up there.
There are humans with primitive reasoning and deficient brain cells who can't grasp how some people can think their way out of the indoctrinations and the BS they were taught as a kid.
I've said it before and I'd say it again, the 21st century intelligencia would not be people who can learn much new things, but the people who can unlearn many BS that have been taught to them.
Since you have no statistical data to back that claim up. You are even more ignorant and primitive than the theists.
I'm an atheist and my life is moving so easy. Shit is running so smooth for me like butter.
You may not know me, but you know Ṣeun Osewa. Was he also plunged into poverty, depression or frustration?

This is a social space, one needs to be careful of what to say lest he reveals his stupidity.

2. This is sheer ignorance. There is no true atheist anywhere. Atheist is atheist. It's either anyone believes in a supreme being or not

3. Where and on what platform have you debated with the highly well placed atheists? Let's have the link to the page or share the snippets of your debates.
You lot lie too much. This makes you look weak. No atheist is greater than the other, don't bring your religious indoctrinations into atheism. There is no authority in atheism so there is no such thing as a highly placed atheists. We only have atheists who are famous or more vocal hence, misotheists, apatheist, agnostic atheist, atheists who believe in the paranormals and those who don't.

@4. Well, that's your opinion and your cup of tea. It doesn't buy anyone a plate of salad.

@5. I'm sure you do not believe in the existence of a mouse with feathers. If anyone told you there is. You would still not believe until you see with your eyes. Are you also a fool for not believing in what there is no proof for?

6. Are you sure you are educated at all? Atheism is not a belief. It is otherwise a disbelief. The one who needs a proof is the one who believes.
As an atheist, I do not believe that there is no god. I simply do not believe that there is a god.
These two statements are different.

7. We don't go around town to prove the unprovable. We only ask for proofs, which no one has been able to present. We don't always start it. Anyone who says something that is contrary to common sense must bring the evidence of claim. Therefore we must disillusion many people. I hope you get me, if that's within your pay grade.

8. Show us the proof of the supernatural now. You will start moving mad. How do you even claim things which you can't bring a proof of.
Isn't that tantamount to mediocrity?

9. There are no fake atheists and there are no real atheists. Anyone who thinks an atheist must have had a certain horrible live encounter that made such an atheist is probably sick in the head or has at least dead brain cells. For someone like me, I read and meditated my way out of theism. The religious books lead me to atheism. So, stop acting like you know it all, when you actually don't know shit.

10. You are the one who is ignorant hia

musicwriter:
Because nature doesn't have what it takes to design them.

So who designed them?
Secondly does nature has consciousness?

blueAgent:
So who designed them?
Secondly does nature has consciousness?

All these have already been answered.

musicwriter:
All these have already been answered.

No.

You did not answer it.

rhames:
■ it's always been there in every religion including Islam. There are specific verses and chapters devoted solely for that purposes.
Go to videos on YouTube and search Ruqiyah. You will see how it is done the Islamic way. Cheers.

Did Mohammed cast out demons on people or tell his followers they had such powers?

Epiphany7:
■ I know you yearn for knowledge but you gotta be polite while at it bro

Chosen by whom?

Fryx:
■ Your analysis are absolutely ok. But I am not a Christian. I simply agree with the teachings of Christ on loving your neighbor as yourself. I am not particularly concerned about his existence or cause of death. It has no impact on me. But I agree with his teachings. Everyone truth seeker believes love is the only religion.

"Love thy neighbor...." is Moses, not Jesus Christ - Leviticus 19 vs 18-20. Jesus Christ said that in response asked by the Pharisees to test His Knowledge of the Law of Moses.

So many people who pretend to know Jesus Christ get their ideas from pulpit traders and not from actually reading Scripture.

Kobojunkie:
"Love thy neighbor...." is Moses, not Jesus Christ - Leviticus 19 vs 18-20. Jesus Christ said that in response asked by the Pharisees to test His Knowledge of the Law of Moses.

So many people who pretend to know Jesus Christ get their ideas from pulpit traders and not from actually reading Scripture.

I DON’T KNOW ANYBODY CALLED JESUS

Na your Bible tell me. And “Pulpit traders” too.

But tell me, was that not his teaching?

I don’t care who first teach it. All I care about is the message. And provided Christ also teaches it, then my point is valid.

Moses have 10 commandments. Jesus have only one (the 11th commandment) “Love Your Neighbor As Yourself.”

I am not a Bible scholar, but I read the Bible twice when I still love to dey read. See, na money dey my head now, no dey quote me with some yeye Bible verse. E no concern me.

Fryx:
■ I DON’T KNOW ANYBODY CALLED JESUS Na your Bible tell me. And “Pulpit traders” too. But tell me, was that not his teaching? I don’t care who first teach it. All I care about is the message. And provided Christ also teaches it, then my point is valid.
■ Moses have 10 commandments. Jesus have only one (the 11th commandment) “Love Your Neighbor As Yourself.” I am not a Bible scholar, but I read the Bible twice when I still love to dey read. See, na money dey my head now, no dey quote me with some yeye Bible verse. E no concern me.

It is one thing to claim with your tongue that you have read the book and another thing entirely to actually show you have in fact read the book.

Again, Christ did not teach "Love your neighbor as you love yourself". That was instead Moses' teaching taken from the Law of Moses as revealed in the passage below.

28 One of the teachers of God's Law came near to the group of people. He heard Jesus speaking with the leaders. The teacher knew that Jesus had answered them well. So then the teacher asked Jesus, ‘Which rule is the most important among God's Laws?’
29 Jesus replied, ‘This rule is the most important rule: “Listen, Israel's people! The Lord alone is our God. There is no other Lord.
30 Love the Lord, your God completely. Love him with all your mind and with all your strength. Love him in everything that you think and you do.”
31 The second most important rule is this: “You should love other people as much as you love yourself.” No other rules are as important as these two.’ - Mark 12 vs 28 - 31

The 2 laws that Jesus Christ quoted in response to the question asked Him of the Law of Moses are found in Deuteronomy 6....

1 These are the commands, rules and laws that the Lord your God gave to me. He told me to teach them to you. You must obey them when you go across the Jordan River to live in that land.
2 You must respect the Lord your God with fear. You must obey his rules and his commands that I am teaching you. You, your children and your grandchildren must obey them all through your lives. If you do that, you will enjoy a long life.
3 Listen, Israelites! Be careful to obey God's rules. If you do that, everything will be well for you. You will have many children. You will live in a land where there is plenty of food and drink, enough for everyone. The Lord, the God of your ancestors, promised that this will happen.
4 Listen, Israelites! The Lord alone is our God. There is no other true God.
5 Love the Lord your God with all your mind and with all your strength. Love him with all that you are.
6 Always think about these commands that I am giving you today.
7 Teach them to your children at all times. Talk about them when you sit together at home. Talk about them as you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.
8 Tie them as signs on your arms and on your heads, so that you remember them.
9 Write them on the wood beside the doors of your houses and on your gates - Deuteronomy 6 vs 1 - 9

... and Leviticus 19.

15 “You must be fair in judgment. You must not show special favor to the poor. And you must not show special favor to important people. You must be fair when you judge your neighbor.
16 You must not go around spreading false stories against other people. Don’t do anything that would put your neighbor’s life in danger. I am the Lord.
17 “Don’t secretly hate any of your neighbors. But tell them openly what they have done wrong so that you will not be just as guilty of sin as they are.
18 Forget about the wrong things people do to you. Don’t try to get even. Love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. - Leviticus 19 vs 15 - 18

2. Moses gave the people a Law that comprised of at least 613 commandments. These Laws(the 10 commandments written on the stone tablet included) make up what is God's National Constitution for the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan aka the Law of Moses.

Kobojunkie:
It is one thing to claim with your tongue that you have read the book and another thing entirely to actually show you have in fact read the book.

Again, Christ did not teach "Love your neighbor as you love yourself". That was instead Moses' teaching taken from the Law of Moses as revealed in the passage below.
The 2 laws that Jesus Christ quoted in response to the question asked Him of the Law of Moses are found in Deuteronomy 6....
... and Leviticus 19.


2. Moses gave the people a Law that comprised of at least 613 commandments. These Laws(the 10 commandments written on the stone tablet included) make up what is God's National Constitution for the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan aka the Law of Moses.

See, all these Bible passage you are quoting are just statistics to me. I don’t keep track of numbers, if I read, I don’t read to cram, I read to understand.

I may not be able to tell you words for words what the Bible said, but if I developed an idea from reading the Bible, it is because the Bible can be understood as that.

I read to understand, I don’t cram.

Now, check the passage below in Matthew 22 from verse 37.

Was Jesus not saying the second greatest commandment is the second? Did he not say all the rest of the commandment rely on these.

This is the teaching of Christ. Love your neighbor as yourself. All other commandments rely on these.

On a side note, I love your doggedness. But unfortunately, I am no longer my calm and understanding self, I would have engage you better.

Fryx:
■ See, all these Bible passage you are quoting are just statistics to me. I don’t keep track of numbers, if I read, I don’t read to cram, I read to understand. I may not be able to tell you words for words what the Bible said, but if I developed an idea from reading the Bible, it is because the Bible can be understood as that. I read to understand, I don’t cram. Now, check the passage below in Matthew 22 from verse 37. Was Jesus not saying the second greatest commandment is the second? Did he not say all the rest of the commandment rely on these. This is the teaching of Christ. Love your neighbor as yourself. All other commandments rely on these. On a side note, I love your doggedness. But unfortunately, I am no longer my calm and understanding self, I would have engage you better.

Stop feigning Ignorance.

What Jesus Christ clearly said in response to a question asked of Him of the Old Law of Moses was that the second greatest commandment of the Old Law of Moses was the Law written in Leviticus 19 vs 18 which was given to the people of Israel by Moses. That answer, that the commandment was the second greatest commandment, was already known to the Pharisees and teachers of the Law who had asked Him that question to begin with. They wanted to know if indeed Jesus Christ had this knowledge that they already had. So how could it be considered a teaching of Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
Stop feigning Ignorance.

What Jesus Christ clearly said in response to a question asked of Him of the Old Law of Moses was that the second greatest commandment of the Old Law of Moses was the Law written in Leviticus 19 vs 18 which was given to the people of Israel by Moses. That answer, that the commandment was the second greatest commandment, was already known to the Pharisees and teachers of the Law who had asked Him that question to begin with. They wanted to know if indeed Jesus Christ had this knowledge that they already had. So how could it be considered a teaching of Jesus Christ?

Since you are looking for the specific teachings of Christ, interprete the following passage for me:

John 13:34-35

On the night before he was crucified, Jesus washed his disciples' feet. This was a task that was usually done by servants, and it was a sign of humility and service. After washing their feet, Jesus said:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

This is the new commandment Jesus gave his disciples. And that is the way people can know they are his disciples. He said “A new commandant”


Luke 10:25-37

In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus tells a story about a man who was robbed and beaten by bandits. Two religious leaders passed by the man without helping him, but a Samaritan, a person from a group that was often looked down upon by the Jews, stopped to help him. Jesus concludes the parable by saying:

"Go and do likewise."

To me, these are the embodiments of Christ, and his earthly ministry (including his death) is centered around one thing “Love.”

Fryx:
■ Since you are looking for the specific teachings of Christ, interprete the following passage for me:
John 13:34-35 On the night before he was crucified, Jesus washed his disciples' feet. This was a task that was usually done by servants, and it was a sign of humility and service. After washing their feet, Jesus said: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
This is the new commandment Jesus gave his disciples. And that is the way people can know they are his disciples. He said “A new commandant”
■ Luke 10:25-37 In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus tells a story about a man who was robbed and beaten by bandits. Two religious leaders passed by the man without helping him, but a Samaritan, a person from a group that was often looked down upon by the Jews, stopped to help him. Jesus concludes the parable by saying: "Go and do likewise." To me, these are the embodiments of Christ, and his earthly ministry (including his death) is centered around one thing “Love.”

1. Jesus Christ gave His followers almost 100 commandments of which the commandment to love themselves the same way He loved them happens to be just one. The Gospel is the National Constitution/Law in the Kingdom of God, and it is comprised of almost 100 various commandments and statutes that God gave to those who are born-again aka citizens of the Kingdom of God. So, when He said, "a new commandment I give you.." in John 13 vs 34, Jesus Christ meant in addition to all the other commandments He had previously given to them.

Also, if you pay close attention to what that particular commandment said, comparing it with the one from the Old Law, you will find that not only does this new command not apply as far as all (neighbors), also, it is love of a different kind from that which is detailed in the Law of Moses.

31 When Judas was gone, Jesus said, “Now is the time for the Son of Man to receive his glory. And God will receive glory through him.
32 If God receives glory through him, he will give glory to the Son through himself. And that will happen very soon.”
33 Jesus said, “My children, I will be with you only a short time more. You will look for me, but I tell you now what I told the Jewish leaders: Where I am going you cannot come.
34 “I give you a new command: Love each other. You must love each other just as I loved you.
35 All people will know that you are my followers if you love each other.” - John 13 vs 34

This new command was given by Jesus Christ only to those whom He considered His Children — Judas and all others who are not of the Kingdom of God were excluded. Additionally, the love to be shown by the followers to each other is the same love that Jesus Christ showed to them, not the love that men show each other.

2. Clearly, that parable was helping define who one's neighbor is, in connection to the Old Law of Moses which states, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself."

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ gave His followers almost 100 commandments of which the commandment to love themselves the same way He loved them happens to be just one. The Gospel is the National Constitution/Law in the Kingdom of God, and it is comprised of almost 100 various commandments and statutes that God gave to those who are born-again aka citizens of the Kingdom of God. So, when He said, "a new commandment I give you.." in John 13 vs 34, Jesus Christ meant in addition to all the other commandments He had previously given to them.

Also, if you pay close attention to what that particular commandment said, comparing it with the one from the Old Law, you will find that not only does this new command not apply as far as all (neighbors), also, it is love of a different kind from that which is detailed in the Law of Moses.
This new command was given by Jesus Christ only to those whom He considered His Children — Judas and all others who are not of the Kingdom of God were excluded. Additionally, the love to be shown by the followers to each other is the same love that Jesus Christ showed to them, not the love that men show each other.

2. Clearly, that parable was helping define who one's neighbor is, in connection to the Old Law of Moses which states, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself."

Let me respond from your second answer.

You said the parable define who your neighbor is right?

Now, according to the parable. Who is your neighbor?


Moreover, can I have your WhatsApp number? Let’s continue from there.