Mamayam:

So if you die wetin happen? I don't see anything spiritual there.

Thanks you sir.

Death is not my portion.
It is not my time to die.

That is what is spiritual about it.

Please don't quote me again.

It is obvious we don't operate on the same knowledge level spiritual.

Ire oh.

hammerFC:


Did they compensate your mum?

That is how the kill innocent people in Nigeria.

Only God can do this.

they apologised...just when a townsman that followed me to the station called an officer, maybe the commissioner, he asked him to hand the phone to anyone of them there, they all started panicking and begging my mum, none of them wants to take the phone

Deepspirituals:
I'm a Spiritualist ..

SPIRITUALS are real ...

Using head to carry Cobwebs in a well clean serene Environment ,You look around you can't find the Cobwebs ,Next is FAILURES ,Promise and FAILURES all over ..

omo I experienced that thing eh, my forehead and two hands...



God!!!I didn't even know where the attacks came from self

MrBroke:


Na faceless forum nah, even frog fit bark. No be your fault. Nairaland is just a forum where people like you meet people like me via typing a message. Real life fvck it you not my type, even you would know it. Make I face my physical world no need to answer a spiritual being

You have a long way and road to learn and go.
I wish you well.

blueAgent:


Science has found the universe to be fine-tuned for life.
Almost 50 years ago, in 1973, cosmologist Brandon Carter found that the independent constants or laws in physics have one highly unusual characteristic in common— they are precisely the
values needed to establish and sustain a universe capable of producing life. This is another enormous and virtually uncontested proof for a universe that has been carefully designed.

You just copied but don't actually understand what that quote is saying. Otherwise, where did it say that your God, Jehovah Yahweh created the universe?

Kobojunkie:
LOL... I bet you if Oyinbo company come Dam that water, nothing of what you said would matter. Sometimes, I think even those who consult with the local gods and goddesses simply don't understand them at all.

you lack understanding, this oyimbos you see will do a lot of spiritual stuff you don't know before they operate

Jeon:
Many things.

The most recent shocking one ,is the river in my community fighting because she was abandoned for more than 15 years.

.... Chat me up on whatsapp I misplace ur contact.

shamsin6300:
.... Chat me up on whatsapp I misplace ur contact.

Hello, long time?.

How did Julius berger die?

Kobojunkie:
LOL... I bet you if Oyinbo company come Dam that water, nothing of what you said would matter. Sometimes, I think even those who consult with the local gods and goddesses simply don't understand them at all.

You may be correct cos oyibo is not from the villiage and has no ancestral allegiance to any deity there. But our ancestors often made commitments with even unborn children to serve and sacrifice to the deity.

Zonefree:
The strongest native doctor in my village was killed by malaria.

ha! Nobi juju be that? 😂

Jeon:



It's tradition, traditional stuffs. Lol but seriously last week Monday -Friday was messy and bloody in that community.




Let's leave for another day.

Stop saying rubbish young lady

The day I opened my eyes and my body was sleeping below me, buh I'm floating up there.

Jeon:


Hello, long time?.

I am cool
Will be expecting ur message on whatsapp.

Kobojunkie:
Which of the big construction/Marine companies make we search up evidence for your claims? Be specific!

Chinese don invade una waters finish, all while using their guns to chase you ignorant lot away. You think say they too dey make sacrifices before ravaging una waters?

I saw indian contractors making Sacrifice while working at a textile mill factory in kano i was among the staff there

Teenwolf:
If you are an atheist and you believe spirituality is not real...Just try and read the lesser keys of solomon or books of moses and carry out the rituals, guidelines instructions....

Exactly what i was about to type now...

Read the lesser keys of solomon, perform the rites as stated.
I guarantee your life will never remain the same.
I downloaded the book once but the very first thing i saw, i deleted it asap.
I won't put myself into problem with my hands based on "experimenting".

The Catholics perform exorcism.
Do you think exorcism will be performed if there's no demon or spirit to be removed.
Even movies have portrayed a lot of exorcism, why would they protray such if it didn't exist or some atom of truth wasn't found in it.
Satanists exist to worship Satan.
What satan wants humans to believe is he doesn't exist so he can continue to work unhindered.
There's a reason God said in the bible for us to seek him.
Things of value aren't exposed, they are hidden and that is what makes them have value.
The fact that we can't see air doesn't mean air isn't around us.
The fact that we can't see microorganisms with our own physical eyes doesn't mean they are not there.
Man had to invent something to be able to see beyond the human eyes to see into the world of microorganism likewise instruments to measure the speed and pressure of air.
That's the same way we also need the lens or tools that can help us see into the spiritual.
It takes a personal experience to believe.

I once saw a dark shadow enter my old house(The landlord was a wicked man even to the point that when he died, his corpse was taken out through the window) after my uncle told me he was going to take a bath. I wasn't asleep although I wasn't totally awake but i knew it wasn't human.
It stared in my direction for 2 seconds. It was a complete black figure, no face to be seen and then it went out.
I didn't hear the door open.
About 10 minutes later, my uncle came in and i asked him if he came inside to take something, he said no.

I have few other experiences.

Emyogalanya:
I saw indian contractors making Sacrifice while working at a textile mill factory in kano i was among the staff there

Sacrifice to whom? one of their many Indian gods or to local gods in the State of Kano, which? Please, name the particular god and location of the sacrifice so we can investigate for ourselves. If you can add the name of the textile mill(assuming the ritual was in connection to the textile mill you worked at), that would also be helpful here since we are looking for evidence of the many spurious claims made.

Emyogalanya:
■ You may be correct cos oyibo is not from the villiage and has no ancestral allegiance to any deity there. But our ancestors often made commitments with even unborn children to serve and sacrifice to the deity.

So a foreigner can step in and do as they please but you who are sons of the soil are shackled to inaction by your ancestral allegiances to your deities?
And even worse, rather than take those chains off their children, your ancestors continually bound even their children to the same chains they were bound by?

emmaitive:
you lack understanding, this oyimbos you see will do a lot of spiritual stuff you don't know before they operate

Stop rambling!

blesdman:
■ Them de hold rain my brother...our local jazzes Na tech eey we suppose commercialise o...but wicked mind no de free us

Una dey hold rain yet every year erosion dey damage roads and lives for the region with abandon? Abeg make we hear word o'jare!

Fryx:
■ First, you must understand that we are all spiritually higher than each other. And if a soul is powerful enough, and had some impact on other souls, the soul will have a lot of followers. In present days, those higher souls are mostly celebrities and influential figures. However, we simply idolized them in this present age by listening to them, mimicking them and following their standards.
In the days of old, they are more spiritual. They understand spirituality, and use it very much to their advantages. That’s why even when a great soul die, their descendants will find a way to continue worshipping them so that they can continue to enjoy their benevolence.
That’s why we have thousands of gods. These are people that have a great effect on their community when they are alive....

I am sorry, you have completely lost me with these tales by moonlight or rather gobbledegook!

DrAda:
Maths opened up my eyes to the incontestable fact that our existence and indeed everything around us is not random. Everything is exactly as it should be to maintain balance. That in itself is exceedingly rare.

Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that there is a creator,a master being at play and I for one am in awe of it.


I have been asked to explain further.....

Even though I am not a math major, I enjoy maths. So, to answer your questions, let's begin with constants like pi, reuler etc. Even better, think about gravity, speed of light, proportion of atmospheric oxygen... In medicine there are tons of other constants as well! These things are fixed!
Don't you find it strange that everything is working exactly as it should every single time? There are too many variables and too many confounders and yet despite all these unsurmountable odds, the world just works and we still cant figure out how. This negates the hypothesis that we just happened or learnt through chaos over time.

If you are still not convinced, let's leave this planet and focus on the sun, moon and stars. Are they also random? So just like that we have our own gigantic factory of nuclear energy, sitting in the most perfect location in space and keeping us all alive? What are the odds of that? Your guess is as good as mine.

A scientist once said "To design a machine capable of functioning like the human Brain, we would need some ultr-advanced technology than the one we currently have"

He went ahead to say "It would be foolish to assume such Machine would suddenly appear without having some brilliant Engineers work to design it...that it needs an Engineer/designer to exist means the Brain 🧠 probably had a designer too"


1Sharon...see better points



Would have gone deep to drop some science excerpts that disprove Evolution and also took a neutral stance against "Creation" but na long thing be that

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, you have completely lost me with these tales by moonlight or rather gobbledegook!

I honestly thought you have the brain power to understand my “tales by moonlight.”

Fryx:
■ I honestly thought you have the brain power to understand my “tales by moonlight.”

You are not the first to try to spin that same tale, unfortunately. Even folks have their version which they spin. It is all a cluster of suppositions and baseless assumptions with no heads or tails to it. And I am not in the mood for more of it at this point.

Kobojunkie:
You are not the first to try to spin that same tale, unfortunately. Even folks have their version which they spin. It is all a cluster of suppositions and baseless assumptions with no heads or tails to it. And I am not in the mood for more of it at this point.

Then you are not in a position to seek knowledge. Have you ever consider the basis of major religious texts? Ever wonder why we have so many religion and why some dominate another? Ever wonder why those who are born into a religion believe strongly in their religion and follow the precept of their god believing they have a reward in heaven?

Ever wonder that as you consider them unfit for the kingdom of your god, they also consider you unfit for the kingdom of their god , and you are both right?

Or do you think you are better than others because of your believe? Don’t you also consider that the same creator that creates you created those that don’t have the same privilege as you?

Ever consider why you and those you separated yourself from will eventually leave your flesh with no respect to your believe or your status?

The teachings of Christ are beautiful, likewise is the teachings of Mohammed, and ifa etc… but have you ever wonder why there are so much division?

Because we must realize that we can’t make progress in division, we must learn to accept each other’s differences so that we can move forward.

And like Christ says, love your neighbor as yourself. Even as I have loved you. If you don’t learn to see your neighbor as yourself, we still have a long way to go.

Note that I am not religious. And I am not an atheist. But I seek knowledge and I have as much as I am willing to understand. If you take your time to understand the weakness of your neighbor, and you learn to work with them, then you are helping this world move forward.

This is the summary of Christ teachings. This is why he died on the cross (I won’t call it a fable even though I saw no evidence). But I understand the message, and I believe as he as taught “by faith”

Once again. This is not a religion thing. Christ never teaches or encourages religion. So likewise every true messenger of the truth.

If I take my time to write an epistle to reply your question because I thought you seek knowledge. Then I must have had a reason for my fables. But you don’t even care - it’s another fables to you. Yet you have so many questions unanswered.

That’s not how to seek the truth. Unless you are just bored, not ready to dive deeper into other people’s experiences.

If you care about others, first try to understand them. That’s what we call love. You don’t just cut off your arm because it is injured, you find a solution no matter how inconvenient.

Love your neighbor like you love your injured arm.

DrAda:


Even though I am not a math major, I enjoy maths. So, to answer your question, let's begin with constants like pi, reuler etc. Even better, think about gravity, speed of light, proportion of atmospheric oxygen etc. In medicine there are tons of other constants as well! These things are fixed.
Don't you find it strange that everything is working exactly as it should every single time? This negates the hypothesis that we just happened or learnt through chaos over time. There are just too many variables and too many confounders and yet despite all these unsurmountable odds, the world just works.

If you are still not convinced, let's leave this planet and focus on the sun, moon and stars. Are they also random? So just like that we have a gigantic factory of nuclear energy, sitting in the most perfect location in space and keeping us all alive? What are the odds of that? Your guess is as good as mine.

Tomorrow by Gods Grace, I'll drop a link to one Evolution vs Creation argument

It is even more of science vs science

The Evolution books used were Darwin's "On the origin of species" and Richard Dawkins "Selfish gene"


This mathematical probabilities u talk about was well used in all the arguments, starting fromt the possibilities of generating life in an 'Organic soup',down to using fossil records by other geologists


The mathematical probabilities of the moon and sun appearing randomly and all is well treated in it

Fryx:
■ Then you are not in a position to seek knowledge. Have you ever consider the basis of major religious texts? Ever wonder why we have so many religion and why some dominate another? Ever wonder why those who are born into a religion believe strongly in their religion and follow the precept of their god believing they have a reward in heaven?
Ever wonder that as you consider them unfit for the kingdom of your god, they also consider you unfit for the kingdom of their god , and you are both right? Or do you think you are better than others because of your believe? Don’t you also consider that the same creator that creates you created those that don’t have the same privilege as you? Ever consider why you and those you separated yourself from will eventually leave your flesh with no respect to your believe or your status?

▢ Did you know that the God of Israel disavowed religion and all religious leaders among His people?
▢ Did you know that Jesus Christ, almost 2000 years ago, stated that He was sent ONLY to the Lost sheep of Israel meaning that if you are not of the blood of Jacob you cannot enter into HIS kingdom of God?
▢ Did you know that it is intellectually dishonest to claim that the God of Israel(and His Son Jesus Christ) and the Allah of the Muslims are the same?
▢ Did you know that there are over 40,000 deities out there worshipped by men and it would take a special kind of blindness to conclude that they are all the same?

Look... what you are attempting here has been tried by many equally ignorant of what is written of the many deities out there. Trying to paint everyone with the same brush would not work at all so what makes you think painting all spirits with the same brush would? I asked questions about particular beliefs... I didn't ask you to come sum all beliefs as the same.

If you don't have answers, it is OK to admit you don't.

Kobojunkie:
▢ Did you know that the God of Israel disavowed religion and all religious leaders among His people?
▢ Did you know that Jesus Christ, almost 2000 years ago, stated that He was sent ONLY to the Lost sheep of Israel meaning that if you are not of the blood of Jacob you cannot enter into HIS kingdom of God?
▢ Did you know that it is intellectually dishonest to claim that the God of Israel(and His Son Jesus Christ) and the Allah of the Muslims are the same?
▢ Did you know that there are over 40,000 deities out there worshipped by men and it would take a special kind of blindness to conclude that they are all the same?

Look... what you are attempting here has been tried by many equally ignorant of what is written of the many deities out there. Trying to paint everyone with the same brush would not work at all so what makes you think painting all spirits with the same brush would? I asked questions about particular beliefs... I didn't ask you to come sum all beliefs as the same.

If you don't have answers, it is OK to admit you don't.

Read again. I never said they are all the same. And if you have digested my previous “fable” properly, you will understand why we have so many of them.

And because a god separated you from others does not mean you are different from others. You are not the “lost sheep of Israel” you have your tribe. And your tribe have a god.

Even Israelites are mostly Jews according to the belief of their ancestors. They rarely practice the teachings of Christ. But I admire the teachings of Christ because it does not discriminate. He says “As many as believed in my name”. And “Whosoever is not against us is for us.” Unlike the gods of the old testaments, he didn’t encourage war on anyone not an Israelite. He loves them all.

If you can’t generalize, then why do you think you have a place in the kingdom of your god. Are you an Israelite? Since you said Christ was sent to only the lost sheep of Israelites and you can’t love your neighbor because that is generalization.

Are you an Israelite? Why should Christ invite you into his kingdom since he can only love “The lost sheep of Israel”.

And again, I stated it up there that Christ was never religious. Read and understand my words before attacking me.

Fryx:
■ Read again. I never said they are all the same. And if you have digested my previous “fable” properly, you will understand why we have so many of them. And because a god separated you from others does not mean you are different from others. You are not the “lost sheep of Israel” you have your tribe. And your tribe have a god.
Even Israelites are mostly Jews according to the belief of their ancestors. They rarely practice the teachings of Christ. But I admire the teachings of Christ because it does not discriminate. He says “As many as believed in my name”. And “Whosoever is not against us is for us.” Unlike the gods of the old testaments, he didn’t encourage war on anyone not an Israelite. He loves them all. If you can’t generalize, then why do you think you have a place in the kingdom of your god. Are you an Israelite? Since you said Christ was sent to only the lost sheep of Israelites and you can’t love your neighbor because that is generalization. Are you an Israelite? Why should Christ invite you into his kingdom since he can only love “The lost sheep of Israel”. And again, I stated it up there that Christ was never religious. Read and understand my words before attacking me.

Stop with the desperate attempts to now seem knowledgable about that which only moments ago were previously not even clued in on. Focus instead on the questions asked of YOUR OWN spiritual beliefs.

Stop trying to generalize that which isn't meant to be! And answer the particular questions asked which pertain to your particular cultural spiritual ideas.

Kevineleven:

The spiritual is even more real than the physical, infact the spiritual is the foundation of the physical.
If the physical is so real, why do people die and they are no more, an illusion.
In the spiritual you will find the answer to what we call mystery here.
Through birth we enter the physical and in death we awaken to the spiritual, it is that simple.
Reason why we shouldn't fear death, it is a new experience, an awakening.

Awakening to do what? What do we accomplish in this new state?

Kobojunkie:
Stop with the desperate attempts to now seem knowledgable about that which only moments ago were previously not even clued in on. Focus instead on the questions asked of YOUR OWN spiritual beliefs.

Stop trying to generalize that which isn't meant to be! And answer the particular questions asked which pertain to your particular cultural spiritual ideas.

Maybe you should learn to read with patience and with “love”. What I said now, I said it earlier. And I will say it again if you ask me.

I just can’t keep my original response to your question because it reveals a lot about me. But even my subsequent response correlates with what I just said.

Again, I am not religious. I don’t practice any form of religion. It is there in my original response. It is there in the subsequent one.

Read with patience. I already answered your questions. Infact, the universe has already answered your questions - study it with “love” and patience.

sukkot:
This woman had terminal cancer and during that period every time I listen to classicfm they would be talking about reincarnation and the story of this Indian girl who could remember her past life. I guess the universe was preparing me. 2 weeks later the woman died. Before she died her grandchild was like 8 months pregnant. Anyway the grandchild had a child and the woman appeared to me vividly in my dream and told me that she has returned back to earth and that she was her great grandchild. That flesh was being prepared for her to colonize while she was sick

Or you subconscious was filled with materials you've ingested making it manifest in your dreams...