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Jewessgratitud3:
Ok. Congratulations to him but why is the poster now comparing his job then and now? By the way that was what me I reacted to.

That was simply trying to say, He was in comfortable office but now doing a menial job.

Be that as it may; Nigga is doing perfectly well and posterity will thank him for saving them.

If a local tout (Mc Oluomo) could know the value of life outside this doom we are, giving all his kids access to good climes; I wonder what our enlightened people are still arguing.

Incase you don't know; Majority of highly connected people, have dual and a lot of citizenship outside this doom we are.
They are just here milking the already dry breast.

It's all about the money. who dignity help in foreign land when the exchange rate is far bigger. He is probably earning more than when he was banker. Packaging wan kill am that time

Gerrard59:
Please let's focus on the main post: a so-called bank manager is working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK

You alluded that because a cleaner can save 20 million while working in the UK, then he is better off than a bank manager in Nigeria. I said that is false as you are comparing a bank manager in Nigeria to a cleaner in the UK. That is not the appropriate way to compare. Should the bank manager want to relocate to the same UK, he would aim to be at the same position as he was in Nigeria. Getting an MBA is one way, and he would aim at the top ones. Remember he was a bank manager in Nigeria. LBS is the number one MBA school in the UK.

I maintain my stance that judging using PPP metric, a bank manager in Nigeria lives a better life than a cleaner in the UK. I would not even compare them as it does not make sense. I compare like for like: bank manager in Nigeria to bank manager in the UK.

God bless you bro! Glad to see a few people that are not part of the groupthink going on here

Dialpad:
You are kidding .... I have seen a naija doctor working in a call center.....

Over 20 yrs ago....

Call centre is still a decent job... And I bet it's temporary. But saying a bank manager, someone who migrated with the right documents and had access to good money, is now cleaning windows... That sounds fabricated to me.

casualobserver:
The question you should ask yourself is what is left of the £23,000 after income tax, council tax, rent, transport, heating, phone etc. I promise you it is zero. In fact I promise you someone on £23k will soon start living off his credit card and eventually get into credit card debt. All that to be a cleaner with no career advancement. Or you will have to live such a frugal life that you would ask yourself everyday who sent you.

The reason why the 23k jobs are available to you the immigrant is 1) you are not a citizen. 2) a citizen would rather claim benefits (social welfare) have his house rent and council tax paid for him by the govt, sit at home all day than go to work just to earn 23k a year.

I should also add that bank manager is not a big job in the uk, you don’t need a degree to be a bank manager in the uk. It is only in Nigeria we elevate bank managers. A typical bank manager in the Uk has only “o” levels, left school and started work in the bank as a bank teller and worked his way up. In fact it was the same thing in Nigeria, many of the 1st generation bank managers, ceos did not go to universities but started their careers as bank clerks in the 1950s and 1960s. So if you think your career as a branch manager in Nigeria translates to much in the uk, it doesn’t. Except you have a particular banking skill/qualification like CFA, Acca etc. a bank manager is just an admin manager.

Let’s say you are in London, which is where the most skyscrapers are. You will spend at least £400 a month on food, minimum £150 a month on a travel card, more likely more because you cannot afford the rent closer to zone 1. Between phone, internet, tv subscription, water, heating, maybe another £300. We have not even mentioned rent and council tax. You will be lucky to get a one bedroom flat in London for less than £1000.

These are basic monthly expenses you cannot do without. You salary after tax cannot cover this. So you will have to cut costs, rent a room in a shared house, deny the basics you had in Nigeria and even then you will have no savings. I promise you, if you are not a citizen you will curse the day you took advise from people on Nairaland who have never seen an airport in their lives or the day you converted £ to Naira and though £23k is a lot of money in the uk. Soon enough you will realize you need 2 jobs just to survive and maybe you should have taken better advantage of the bank manager job you had in Nigeria.


Below is what a citizen can get for not working in the UK. Let us not forget someone on welfare is the lowest rung on the ladder. Yet he will be better off than you on £23k a year without going to work and you sit there converting. Naira to pounds thinking 23k is big money? He doesn’t pay tax, you will pay tax on your 23k.

Hmmm oga mi sir
You speak from a point of authority and knowledge.
What about those that have IT skills, can they scale through this credit debit system of their society?
Besides, I also think the system that works well makes the influx of 'japa' greater

Gerrard59:
Please let's focus on the main post: a so-called bank manager is working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK

You alluded that because a cleaner can save 20 million while working in the UK, then he is better off than a bank manager in Nigeria. I said that is false as you are comparing a bank manager in Nigeria to a cleaner in the UK. That is not the appropriate way to compare. Should the bank manager want to relocate to the same UK, he would aim to be at the same position as he was in Nigeria. Getting an MBA is one way, and he would aim at the top ones. Remember he was a bank manager in Nigeria. LBS is the number one MBA school in the UK.

I maintain my stance that judging using PPP metric, a bank manager in Nigeria lives a better life than a cleaner in the UK. I would not even compare them as it does not make sense. I compare like for like: bank manager in Nigeria to bank manager in the UK.

U are far from reality.
A restroom cleaner live a far better life than bank managers in Nigeria.
Do u guys even know the word called comfort?

erico2k2:
ofcos I do not, I have the NHS .SO I asked you a simple question you failing to ask, do you work as a civil servant or in the public SECTOR?

Bro HMO is alive and well and companies subscribe to different plans with different coverages.

I have used HMO for more than 12 years without paying one dime so I just laugh when I see some comments here

How much is the basic pay of a bank manager in Nigeria? Can you shed more light?

Available9:
the 23k is for a year and that's lesser compared to what I earn in Nigeria.. because after removing taxes, it will reduce significantly...that's small money na...kia poverty...his colleagues in some Nigerian banks take home more than 28 million naira per year...

Trust me! What his peers earns in a month as manager in Nigeria, he is getting far more than that in a week as a skyscraper cleaner.

I use to say why will someone leave Nigeria earning well (let me just say 700k a month) to go do cleaner and security job abroad. If you nu go you nu go know say menial job here will even pay you more in less than a month.

Don't be among those that try to glorify living in Nigeria over abroad. You go explain tire with no evidence.

Maobichek:
Not what you think ok! If he travelled via study(student) visa, he will only work for 20 hours every week and at such, he will only get a managerial/accounting job when he is done with his studies.

NB: anyone working as a window cleaner over there earns more than a bank manager here(this is confirmed). Minimum wage per hour in the UK is 10 Pounds and no such a risky worker will earn 10 pounds per hour.

Ok then, but if the person is studying abroad, you cannot claim that he/she is doing a menial job cos it's temporary. You can't expect everyone to get a white collar job while studying unless they're doing a PhD...

So claiming that a BM is now a cleaner is a bit too negatively exaggerated in such a case.

Gerrard59:
You are judging income from a nominal GDP perspective. I am doing so from PPP. The Nigerian banker has a higher standard of living than a cleaner in the US. A standard career with benefits. This is why, should he want to relocate/migrate, he aims to replicate the same role/industry in the US as in Nigeria. Just because someone earns dollars in the US does not automatically make the person better than another in Nigeria. What do they do for a living? A McKinsey consultant in the US has a higher standard of living than a counterpart in Nigeria. What you try to imply is that a cleaner in the US has a higher living standard than a McKinsey consultant in Nigeria. I would not accept that one o. It does not follow at all.

Cleaner to cleaner
Banker to banker

Bank branch managers in the USA don't earn a lot. That's something to think about. Is banking more profitable in Nigeria than in the USA? I don't know, but it would help to know that.

Iamzik:
In Nigeria banks, you have "Branch Manager" as job designation- meaning the administrative head of a branch

Then you have "Manager" as a grade with its perks and packages.

Note that you can become a branch manager even before you attain the manager grade. So this your Aba/Owerri branch manager, what is his banking grade?

I just want to be sure that you understand the difference cos it's obvious that people in the comment section do not understand shit about banking at all

I don't know their banking grades. Thanks for educating me on that. I only know that both are managers.

Way back in the 1970's, we had a neighbor who was a bona fide bank manager, as in the the top guy at the local branch of the Cooperative & Commerce Bank of Eastern Nigeria. I don't think he lived a particularly better lifestyle than we did. It was only when Abacha started the whole black market vs CBN rate that bank managers got to be a celebrated class in Nigeria because of the opportunities to cheat & steal.

iamsense:
Trust me! What his peers earns in a month as manager in Nigeria, he is getting far more than that in a week as a skyscraper cleaner.

I use to say why will someone leave Nigeria earning well (let me just say 700k a month) to go do cleaner and security job abroad. If you nu go you nu go know say menial job here will even pay you more in less than a month.

Don't be among those that try to glorify living in Nigeria over abroad. You go explain tire with no evidence.

Even cooks and taxi drivers here can surely save $200 to $500/month after all expenses. I did it when I worked such jobs. Just those savings are higher than the monthly earnings of 99.95% of Nigerians adults. PPP or not, that's the reality.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Theoarhics:
It's all about the money. who dignity help in foreign land when the exchange rate is far bigger. He is probably earning more than when he was banker. Packaging wan kill am that time

Hahahahaha. Kuku collect my phone brother. UNa no go kill me for this thread

Iamzik:
Bro HMO is alive and well and companies subscribe to different plans with different coverages.

I have used HMO for more than 12 years without paying one dime so I just laugh when I see some comments here

Bro you still failed to answer the simple question, For the 100th time are you a civil servant or work in the public sector?

Brendaniel:
As long as he is earning more than his banking Job in Nigeria and he is in a better environment with savings at the end of the month better than in Nigeria, then he is good to go...

Be deceiving yourself. He dey earn pound they spen Naira for UK

Mexyz:
Why do you guys just talk out of ignorance?
Go make your research how much a BO earn in a top Nigerian bank and come back here and clean this rubbish you wrote.

Since you've called me the ignorant one, why not tell me how much they earn?

You rush to say something and end up saying nothing. You should do your research and come back to reply me if any bank in Nigeria pays their BM up to N1m.

Omobalo67:
Be deceiving yourself. He dey earn pound they spen Naira for UK

This thread has the largest amount of funny people gathered in one place on the planet

santaclaws:
I doubt the authenticity of that story. Most of these stories are fabricated. A former bank manager in Nigeria can easily get a management or accounting job anywhere in the world.

Dey play

aycorporat:
Hmmm oga mi sir
You speak from a point of authority and knowledge.
What about those that have IT skills, can they scale through this credit debit system of their society?
Besides, I also think the system that works well makes the influx of 'japa' greater

DO not forget if you don't apply for credit, you do not get debited.

aycorporat:
Hmmm oga mi sir
You speak from a point of authority and knowledge.
What about those that have IT skills, can they scale through this credit debit system of their society?
Besides, I also think the system that works well makes the influx of 'japa' greater

If you are planning to go to the Uk or anywhere, you have to have professional skills that are in demand. Get your certifications before you go. Don’t go as an illegal migrant. You will eventually earn well. It may be a while before you get your 1st job and even the 1st one may not pay so much but once you do, you are good.

If you are planning to japa without high value skills or you think you have a degree, your suffering won’t have part 2.

As long as it is outsode Nigeria, it is smart

Mexyz:
Why do you guys just talk out of ignorance?
Go make your research how much a BO earn in a top Nigerian bank and come back here and clean this rubbish you wrote.

DO they earn N3m a month?

erico2k2:
Bro you still failed to answer the simple question, For the 100th time are you a civil servant or work in the public sector?

What I am doesn not matter. You said HMO is dead and just wanted to correct that impression that it's not dead.

HMO has paid medicals bills of more 700k for me at once. I didn't pay one kobo. And that is just one instance

Let's stop making exergerated statements to paint the country's situation worse than it is

Omobalo67:
Be deceiving yourself. He dey earn pound they spen Naira for UK

Please can you explain because I'm not deceiving myself...

bolabizzle:
Just got word from a friend about someone who made the move from being a bank manager in Nigeria to working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK. 😕

Smart move or not?

Depends on what he PLANS to do with his life AFTER 5 yrs

He has a fighting chance for a switch

casualobserver:
If you are planning to go to the Uk or anywhere, you have to have professional skills that are in demand. Get your certifications before you go. Don’t go as an illegal migrant. You will eventually earn well. It may be a while before you get your 1st job and even the 1st one may not pay so much but once you do, you are good.

If you are planning to japa without high value skills in demand your suffering won’t get have part 2.

Thanks for this advice
I appreciate.

That means global certifications earned here in naija can be used to get jobs there

TOPCRUISE:
Depends on the pay and future oriented goals pertaining to himself and kids.

Average Bank manager salary in Nigeria: N11,000,000/ annum.
Average skyscraper salary in UK: £27,304/annum. Or N30,000,000 to N35,000,000

Do the maths.

Dey play

MSN1:
U are far from reality.
A restroom cleaner live a far better life than bank managers in Nigeria.
Do u guys even know the word called comfort?

Does that apply to McKinsey's consultants in Nigeria? Does a skyscraper cleaner in the UK have a higher standard of living than someone working with KPMG Nigeria?

Do you know what it is to be a bank manager? Permanent staff o, not contract staff.

Nazgul:
The question you should be asking is how much does a bank manager earn in Nigeria?

If you must know, no bank in Nigeria pays their branch managers up to N1m. On an average, they earn between 500-600k. (That's about $600 not pounds o)

A skyscraper window cleaner in the UK earns about £23,000. With that amount, you can live comfortably in the UK.

Aside the risks involved in the job, I won't say he made a bad choice.

Why you g0 put the risk asides gan gan?

Iamzik:
What I am doesn not matter. You said HMO is dead and just wanted to correct that impression that it's not dead.

HMO has paid medicals bills of more 700k for me at once. I didn't pay one kobo. And that is just one instance

Let's stop making exergerated statements to paint the country's situation worse than it is

it does cos if you are a civil servant then you are talking gibberish however if you work in a public sector, it means you or your employer is paying of it.So what your company has is a private medical Insurance for its Employee. This is totally different if you work for the civil service which in Nigeria constitute 65 to 70% of the workforce in Nigeria. This is what the NHS and the Obama care came to address.

IbeOkehie:
Bank branch managers in the USA don't earn a lot. That's something to think about. Is banking more profitable in Nigeria than in the USA? I don't know, but it would help to know that.



I don't know their banking grades. Thanks for educating me on that. I only know that both are managers.

Way back in the 1970's, we had a neighbor who was a bona fide bank manager, as in the the top guy at the local branch of the Cooperative & Commerce Bank of Eastern Nigeria. I don't think he lived a particularly better lifestyle than we did. It was only when Abacha started the whole black market vs CBN rate that bank managers got to be a celebrated class in Nigeria because of the opportunities to cheat & steal.



Even cooks and taxi drivers here can surely save $200 to $500/month after all expenses. I did it when I worked such jobs. Just those savings are higher than the monthly earnings of 99.95% of Nigerians adults. PPP or not, that's the reality.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Anytime I see "Good luck to Nigerians " I know say na this my oga dey talk.
Thanks for opening my eyes to see another side. I'm pained that I would have taken this decision 10 years ago just out of school.

Anyways, e never late

bolabizzle:
Just got word from a friend about someone who made the move from being a bank manager in Nigeria to working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK. 😕

Smart move or not?

He's making his bank salary in a week

aycorporat:
Thanks for this advice
I appreciate.

That means global certifications earned here in naija can be used to get jobs there

It depends on the field but In IT yes,

Look at the relevant job websites for job adverts for the type of skills in demand and try to get them before you leave.